/lit/ - Literature

>>15017608
It isn't. Evangelion is basically just the anime adaption of Lacan's ideas anyway.

>>15017626
Ask me how I know you've never read Lacan.

>>15017632
Asymptomatic desire
non-all multiplicity
the totalitarianism of "the whole"

These are all ideas that are explored by both Lacan and the show. problem?

>>15017647
Not Lacanian ideas, LARPer. Nice try though

>>15017608
It's just a mashup of Catcher in the Rye, Gravity's Rainbow and Notes from the Underground.
Basically all of the best anime and manga are just remixed classics
LotGH is just War and Peace
Madoka is just Faust
Berserk is just Thus Spake Zarathustra
Lain is just CCRU stuff.
Code Geass is just Count of Monte Cristo/Hamlet
All comes from literature and literature does it all best.

>>15017654
You can be just as stupidly reductive with any great work of literature.

>>15017649
I can even refer you to the passages in his ecrits where he talks about this stuff. And I didn't even mention Shinji's entrance into the symbolic order as dictated by his father, who also mediates his engagement with the imaginary (his mother, the structuring fantasy, who's soul is literally trapped in EVA 01).

This is all fairly elementary stuff, anon. If you were such a big fan of Evangelion and certified Lacanian scholar I'm sure you should have no reason making sense of this.

>>15017658
The point is anime just dumbs down all these great stories and themes for the manchildren who watch it while adding nothing.
What is anime's contribution to art exactly?

>>15017660
>I can even refer you to the passages in his ecrits where he talks about this stuff
Go on then retard, have a go (this should be a laugh).

>>15017669
The same as literature's contribution to art (whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean).

>>15017678
You successfully made me throw up anon.
Read some art theory (Specifically how it impacts the world) then punch yourself in the face.

>>15017692
Yeah, you're definitely a dilettante talking out of your ass here.
>art theory
lol what all of them? Kys.

>>15017608
Sounds like you haven't read much literature.

lmao at plebs and neckbeards who take this crap seriously. Big gay robots fighting + badly written teen-diary existentialism and gary stu melodrama = "better than most literature" give me a fucking break

>>15017753
yeah but there's also a talking penguin

>>15017753
>watches Evangelion
>gets filtered
>drops out halfway through
>proceeds to cope by claiming "guuh it's not even that good"
Many such cases.

>>15017770
Never watched it have you?

>>15017672
>"...this form situates the agency of the ego, before its social determination, in a fictional direction, which will always remain irreducible for the individual alone, or rather, which will only rejoin the coming-into-being (le devenir) of the subject asymptomatically"

>"A man is nothing other than a signifier. A woman seeks out a man under the heading of signifier. A man seeks out a woman under the
heading – this is going to appear curious to you – under the title of what is only situated from discourse, since if what I am tackling is true, namely, that the woman is not-all, there is always something that in her escapes discourse."

And, for a clear demonstration of his resistance to the totalitarian discourse of the "whole", just watch him shut down this protester:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aqGYYBwKbQ

>>15017823
no greentext fag, i watched the whole thing for the memes

>>15017846
Nothing to do with Evangelion you retard you.

>>15017855
here's your problem

>>15017866
In every single one of your posts you have, without failure, shifted the goalposts. you are pitiful. Given that the video is longer than the time it took you to reply, I can only assume you didn't watch it, likely because you're a moron and challenging psychoanalytic discourse scares you. But that's okay anon, I get it– It's why you're drawn to anime which oversimplifies the concepts so you can feel big-brained without putting in any effort. I'm literally lmaoing at your castration complex rn

>>15017874
>trivializes anime
>can't even understand it
Stay mad, LARPer.

>>15017884
Dude you went from
>you don't understand lacan
to
>prove those are lacans ideas
to
>you don't understand evangelion
If you're going to pick a hill to die on, don't dismember your corpse and scatter your limbs on all of them. You can't even put forward a counter argument as to what Evangelion is "actually" about, you just seethe and go
>"n-no y-y-you just d-don't get it!"

You are no match for the might of pic related chad anon, just admit it.

>>15017654
You have nice tastes; can you suggest other animes ? (or short video games because I have no culture in that domain)

>>15017918
>he's still mad
Maybe actually watch the show you're talking about before you embarrass yourself even further. It's on Netflix, I'm sure you've got nothing else to do.

>>15017978
>he is still too pussy to provide his own interpretation/analysis
I'm waiting, anon. Why are you being evasive?

>>15017986
Why would I provide analysis for someone who hasn't even seen the work that is being analysed? I'm not doing your work for you. Get back to me when you've watched it.

>>15018011
more evasions, typical. Though, I'm not surprised, once someone has revealed to you the true source for all of Evangelion's psychosexual and symbolic patterning, it is very hard to come up with your own interpretation. It's also disheartening to know that your favourite anime is just a cheap imitation of a genuinely brilliant thinker. I'm sorry for crushing your favourite show anon, I'll leave you be.

>>15018031
>has provided no evidence linking Lacan and Evangelion
>has no understanding of Lacan's theories, can only quote from online sources after a frenzied good search
>hasn't even watched Evangelion
>still desperately coping
It is to laugh

>>15017966
Haven't dug too deep into either of these mediums desu so probably won't have the greatest recs, here they are anyway.
If you like Lain then Texhnolyze and Haibane Renmei are both similar/have shared staff and are great.
I recall the game that used it's medium best in its storytelling was Soma, unfortunately doesn't work too well as an actual game.
Rest of my video game favorites are mainstream stuff like Bloodborne, Portal, Shadow of the Colossus, Bioshock etc. Probably not the short stuff you're looking for.

It's shit, television is for funny stuff with explosions, like Top Gear. Everything else is cringe and pretentious.

>>15017966
>>15018141
Aside from Portal of course, which is indeed very short and very popular.

>>15017841
yeah sorry I don't watch weeb garbage

>>15018152
Weak

>>15018230
your erudition is weak. anime is a good craft, much like everything japan has made but because of the monomanic obsession with craft making, artistic merit is often an after thought. Evangelion's artistic merit lies outside of itself. Its interesting because the japanese made it and it gives some insight to their reticence but thats it.

>>15018141
Thanks, I will start Texhnolyze

>>15017608
It doesn't really make sense to compare visual art (such also movies) to literature

>>15017753
there is one robot in the entire series that only appears in one episode

>>15017654
Eva is Shakespeare. You can't talk about anime on the internet without it being brought up.
Geass is Hugo. It's more dumbed down than Eva but arguably better.
Gundam is Arthurian legend.
Death note is Melville because it's often ranked #1 on lists of greatest animes, whether or not it deserves that spot.

>>15018287
this kind of "but actually..." obsession with technicalities and lore makes something like evangelion high brow entertainment but a lowly art form

>>15018288
Death note is cringe, not /lit/ at all

>>15018267
You have no knowledge of art or craft, dilettante.

>>15018307
i never claimed otherwise

>>15018324
um actually...

>>15017884
>can't even understand it
They are cartoons meant for mass consumption, why would someone not understand them?