/lit/ - Literature

Based...it is because he cannot be refuted, brother

what does guenon say about protestantism
specifically anglicans, puritans, quakers, presbyterians

>>14997825
he says it's the only religion that came with modernity and that it's not traditional

Guenon is fucking based... Read Guenon and you will not be disappointed brother! We are taking over lit!

>>14997853
based modernism

Good morning brothers, remember to post Guenon memes today to convert more hylics

>>14997865
I will import a few from Discord now, brother...

>>14997862
on the contrary. modernity is cringe. MEGA CRINGE!!!

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>>14997876
Based brothers.. a contemplative morning to us all...

>>14997862
CRINGE

>>14997878
Holy based brother!

>>14997878
nah
i like modernism
protestantism brings a nice amount of humour into the world
i dislike the dour self-seriousness of trads

>>14997815
give me your bug, brother

>>14997887
cringe, bro.... very cringe...

>>14997887
CRINGE! HYLIC CRINGE!

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>>14997876
begone cringe-men you are not based you are cringe! CRINGE!!! NON-DUALISM IS HERESY!

>>14997898
CRINGE

>>14997917
Sooooo based, brother

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>>14997921
cope cringe lords. COPE!!!

>>14997876
Brother do not mention this before the hylics

>>14997956
he knew guenon in the end was cringe

>>14997961
You are cringe you retard, you are getting refuted in the Guenon general thread so you have to come here and troll. You are a sad individual

>>14997986
take your meds cringe schizo!!!! CRINGE SCHIZO!!! i'm not even posting in the cringe general

>>14997956
I read about him..... I am still unconvinced..... Largely because Guenon (pbuh) did not give a verdict on it (to my knowledge)....

>>14998015
Yea totally you're not posting there lol. Right after you get refuted for the millionth time it's jUsT a CoInCiDeNcE!!!11!!1 that you come here and start shitposting.

>>14998015
Guenonposters (pbut) are not schizophrenic.... We are of such a high level of spiritual development that Hylics such as yourself mistake it for insanity.....similar to how a peasant farmer from northern England might mistake the speech of a Hindu Guru for nonsense....just because he cannot understand.....

>>14997793
>Why no serious philosopher has attempted a refutation or a continuation of his work?
Because a serious philosopher would not bother refuting such trivialities.

>>14998025
hahahaha are you guenonfag?

>>14998026
Very based, brother

>>14998028
Behold, the amazing refutation of the hylic!

CRINGE

who the fuck are these retarded people, is this the only possible thread when asking a question about Guenon?

>>14998069
I agree brother.....the Hylics truly are cringe.....we have such nice threads until they come in and ruin things......

>>14998038
I just said a refutation isn't worth anyone's time, nor did I attempt a refutation in my post. I am not surprised guenonfags don't know how to read.

>>14998095
What you said was cringe hylic.....begone

>>14998079
Why.... do you use such.... redundant and excessive.... punctuation?................ Is to..... give a presentation.....of saying things....... that are far more profound than they actually....... are?

Brothers stay strong, the hylics are seething today.

READ SHANKARA

READ GUENON

BECOME BASED

REJECT CRINGE

POST GUENON MEMES

>>14998105
Your larp is genuinely hilarious. It is nothing but pure idolatry. If you were truly embracing a traditional attitude, you would not be using the internet. You are blind to your own insincerity.

>>14998108
>The hylic doesn't know about the ...........
It is the metaphysical point brother....... It is means of both contemplation........and adorning our writing........ It is almost an ideogram.......it expresses everything.....and nothing......

>>14998124
Based

>>14998143
>it expresses everything.....and nothing......
It expresses the latter.

>>14998173
Yes brother....... You are learning..... Slowly.....even though you may not know it yet......

>>14998176
Based

Guenon is based

>>14998176
Cringe

>>14998185
Cringe-enabler

Oh my God...Guènon is so based

Where do I start with Guenon? He seems based

>>14999429
>hurrr don't discuss guenon in muh sekrit club!!!!1!

>>14999429
what is the deal with posts like this, why do you find it weird that people are having a back and forth discussion

>>14999429
CRINGE!!!!!!!!!! CONTEMPLATION ONLY.

“Philosophers” will barely engage with continentals anymore let alone people are way outside the boundaries of academic groupthink. Also, Guenon didn’t consider himself a philosopher and actually had a negative view of philosophy in general. Guenon’s “philosophy” and what is considered “philosophy” today are just simply not the same thing.

>>14999363
Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines brother...... PEACE be upon YOU

>>14999429
I did have procreative sex with my wife already, brother. As Guenon (pbuh) taught us, one should only engage in such practices contemplatively, and only when the wife is ritually pure and can conceieve.

>>14997793
>Does he have original ideas?
No, that is what made him (pbuh) so based in the first place...
He (pbuh) merely transmitted the Ancient Atlantean Hyperborean Perennial Wisdom.....
(pbuh)....

>>14997815
>perennialist
>muslim
>but also advaitist
He retroactively refuted himself when he took a muslim initiation

>>15001614
>one should only engage in such practices contemplatively
So based..... PBUH......
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>>15001623
Based...... PBUH.....
>>15001638
Hylic! Cringe!

Where do I start with Adi Shankara?

>>14997793
Guénon focus is on metaphysics, he does not believe in originality. The first chapters of East and West outlines this particular problematic perfectly.


>>14997825
Il est à remarquer que, dans une religion où l’élément social et sentimental l’emporte sur l’élément intellectuel, la part du dogme et celle du culte se réduisent simultanément de plus en plus, de sorte qu’une telle religion tend à dégénérer en un «moralisme» pur et simple, comme on en voit un exemple très net dans le cas du Protestantisme; à la limite, qu’a presque atteinte actuellement un certain «Protestantisme libéral», ce qui reste n’est plus du tout une religion, n’en ayant gardé qu’une seule des parties essentielles, mais c’est tout simplement une sorte de pensée philosophique spéciale. Il importe de préciser, en effet, que la morale peut être conçue de deux façons très différentes: soit en mode religieux, quand elle est rattachée en principe à un dogme auquel elle se subordonne, soit en mode philosophique, quand elle en est regardée comme indépendante; nous reviendrons plus loin sur cette seconde forme.


DO NOT REPLY TO THE SPAMMER DIRTYING GUENON'S NAME. NO ONE OLDER THAN 15 POSTS MEMES ABOUT GUENON OR "BASED" OR "PBUH". ONCE AGAIN, THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOT REPLIED TO ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MAN'S WORKS, ALL THEY DO IS SPAM MEMES. READ GUENON IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THE DERANGED POSTERS.

>>15002479
Holy cringe...

>>14997815
HOLY BASED
>>15001623
this
>>15001638
You can find in Sufi metaphysics and poetry all the same ideas as Advaita expressed in Islamic terminology

>>15003016
>you could already see even as a Child (pbuh) just how Based (pbuh) our Teacher (pbuh) would be....
Holy based...

>>14997825
He [Réne Augustine Guenón] (pbuh) advocated the destruction of those false religions and the beheading of all their followers. Guenon (pbuh), said Roman Catholicism and Radical Hinduism were the only true Faiths and everything else was a copeacetical.

>>14997793
>Why no serious philosopher has attempted a refutation or a continuation of his work?
Because no real philosopher would take this nigga serious

>>14997793
Retards need no refutation

>>15003422
Wrong. Instead of theorizing endlessly on what Guénon ought to say about these religions, why don't you quote the man directly like I did here >>15002479

>>15002438
his Upanishad commentaries

Based thread brothers

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Got to say, I used to find Guenon posting irritating..... but now it is growing upon me...... I don't know anything about Guenon nor do I want to..... but holy, Guenon posting is based....

Bataille did

jesus christ where do these faggots come from and do they unironically think their kinky little mannerisms are funny?

>>15006314
Seething hylic

BASED?! ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!! SOOOOOOOOO BASED!

>>15006314
>kinky
There is absolutely nothing kinky about our revered teacher (pbuh) you disgusting pervert. You dirty homosexuals with taste the fire of hell on the day of judgment which Allah (swt) in his infinite wisdom and judiciousness has prepared for you, inshallah.

>>15006314
CRINGE! CRINGE HYLIC ON AISLE 15006314...!!!!!!

Hylics can't cope

>>14997793
I'm interested in reading Guenon, where should I start? I hear conflicting things in that regard.

>>15006759
Hello, I personally recommend beginning with his series of commentaries on 8 Upanishads which can be read here or purchased on Amazon (Jeff Bezos’ website)

https://estudantedavedanta.net/Eight-Upanisads-Vol-1.pdf
https://estudantedavedanta.net/Eight-Upanisads-vol2.pdf

>>14997898
BEGONE hylic.... you are CRINGE....

>>14997793
>Why no serious philosopher has attempted a refutation or a continuation of his work?

Because he's fucking irrelevant?

>>15006874
>Guénon was a brainle-
He was proficient at Greek, Latin, English, Italian, German, Spanish, Sanskrit, Hebraic, Arabic and Chinese, was trained in mathematics and was extremely well-read in both eastern and western philosophy
>Guénon was a stupid posing larpe-
He was initiated into both a Vietnamese Taoist Triad as well as the al-'Arabiyya Shadhiliyya Sufi order, furthermore in all his writings he stressed the need for personal and genuine participation in whatever Traditions one aspired to follow. His acquaintances both Egyptian and western observed that he scrupulously followed Islamic observances during his life in Egypt
>Guénon was a literal nobody, he was irrelevan-
Among the many western philosophers, artists and authors who were influenced by him or who heaped praise on him include Carl Schmitt, Georges Bataille, Aleksander Dugin, Antonin Artaud, Olavo de Carvalho, André Breton, Mircea Eliade, Alain Danielou, Julius Evola, André Malraux, Albert Gleizes, René Daumal, Raymond Queneau, Paul Ackerman, Huston Smith, William Chittick, Steve Bannon, Harry Oldmeadow, James Cutsinger and Hossein Nasr. Furthermore as Nasr notes in his article 'The Influence of Rene Guenon in the Islamic World', Guénon is well-known and influential among the intelligentsia including traditional Islamic scholars in certain Islamic countries such in Turkey, Iran, Pakistan and Malaysia. Guénon is also taught in some 'history of western esoterism/mysticism' classes at the few universities which offer them.
>Guénon just made a bunch of stupid and unjustified comparisons between religio-
To the contrary over the course of some twenty odd books he painstakingly and patiently elucidated the fundamental agreement between the metaphysics of Advaita Vedanta, Taoism, Sufism, Hermeticism and Christian esoterism, work that Coomaraswamy built on and further confirmed

>>15006790
Alright, sound like a plan. Thanks for the advice.

>>15000208
>back and forth discussion
you are literally mentally handicapped if you think that’s what this thread is

His ideas aren't original per se, but irrefutable. This is because originality is not his goal, and like Yockey says, "originality" is only a "decadent product of modernity." Divine knowledge is always the same, atemporal. Atemporality demands no "originality."

Anyways, there are simply two kinds of people- those who have the ability to understand the esoteric and those who don't. For the Quran says "Deaf, dumb and blind, they will never return to the true path."

So you either "get it" or you don't. There's no in between

>>15006351
Wasn't referring to the perverted definition of your "kinks". Clearly someone is indeed a degenerate here.

>>15006330
>>15006351
>>15006357

Oh no, three of you muslim-larping faggots appeared out of the shadows and called me "le hylic". Do you people still find this kind of ironic jesting funny despite its overuse and forced saturation?

nice one, you got me.

Hylics seething that Guenon is so popular on /lit/

Based

>>14997853
so he admitted all non protestants are backwards?

Based

>>14997793
It's because he finished philosophy, brother. Nothing more can be philosophized after René Guénon (pbuh).

B A S E D
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D E S A B

>>14997793
stop spamming this french schizo
thank u

VERY BASED

>>15009340
Ok schizo, you're the one spamming

Based thread

>>14997793
If a metaphysical teaching is 'original' then it's defacto wrong

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>>15010045
So based........

>>15009340
Cringe! Read Guénon (pbuh) and learn some manners.... Do not act like a hylic animal.........

>>15007081
Ok schizoposter

Based...brothers...keep posting...spread the message...of guenon (pbuh)...we also ... invite the hylics ...to bump as well...PBUH

>>15012297
based, resist the schizoposters brother.... they are attacking us full force today....

>>15012297
How is your spamming not counter-traditional?
How is proselytism excused when Guénon says himself proselytism is crass and modern?
How is joking about (pbuh) in any way respectful of Guénon and Islam?
Why do you post his picture when Guénon was against having his picture taken and spread?

>>15013101
>durrrr posters can't discuss nondualism or else its trolling!!!11

Ok schizoposter

>>15013114
How is your spamming not counter-traditional?
How is proselytism excused when Guénon says himself proselytism is crass and modern?
How is joking about (pbuh) in any way respectful of Guénon and Islam?
Why do you post his picture when Guénon was against having his picture taken and spread?

>>15013138
God works in mysterious ways

>>15013150
How is your spamming not counter-traditional?
How is proselytism excused when Guénon says himself proselytism is crass and modern?
How is joking about (pbuh) in any way respectful of Guénon and Islam?
Why do you post his picture when Guénon was against having his picture taken and spread?

Answer these questions.

Where do I start with Śaṅkarācārya?

>>15001614
this

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the key vocabulary of Guenonposter:

>Based
>Holy based
>Pbuh
>Cringe
>Hylic
>Brother
>Retroactively refute or debunk

These are the marks of Guenonposting, watch out for the singular schizo poster who has been obsessed with Guenon for over a decade, spamming throughout the web

Look how few IPs have posted in this thread, it's one guy. Stop fueling his mental illness. He might be dangerous

Comprehensive thread

>>15014194
>Guenonposter:
holy based!

>>15014194
cringe hylic, that which modern civilization cannot understand says is "schizo". filthy juif loving decadent hylic of modernity -- BEGONE!

Guenon is fucking cringe and people who read Guenon are cringe and people who talk about Guenon are cringe

Guenon turned already refuted archiac ideas into esoteric schizobabble and you should avoid his work and read (anyone else)

>>15015277
t. hylic

>>15009111
trips of truth!

>>15013152
This lad is a massive schizo who thinks demonic entities are behind Guenonposting. CRINGE
Last leg of the Bull of Dharma is Truth, thats all he has to stand on in the Kali Yuga. Any way of spreading the truth is good. Nothing concrete can be built in these times, so we must disperse the knowledge by any means necessary. If it was in the past, then yes, we could maintain traditional orders and be respectful, but in these times we must resort to extreme measures to enlighten people.
Theres Dharma and theres Yuga Dharma, this is Yuga Dharma

>>15017425
>This lad is a massive schizo who thinks demonic entities are behind Guenonposting
no.
>so we must disperse the knowledge by any means necessary
wrong. quantitative in essence

You still haven't answered these questions.

How is your spamming not counter-traditional?
How is proselytism excused when Guénon says himself proselytism is crass and modern?
How is joking about (pbuh) in any way respectful of Guénon and Islam?
Why do you post his picture when Guénon was against having his picture taken and spread?

I'm here to discuss Guénon, you're here to spam memes and discredit him. I directly quoted guénon on the nature of proselytism and the constitution of the elite yesterday, you did not engage with the text. So you admit to not caring about Guénon, it was written explicitly that what you are doing is counter-traditional. So why did you not give an explanation as to what you are doing? Answer the questions.

>>15017505
look at this retard thinking saying "wrong" is a refutation. fuck off faggot

>>15017621
I shouldn't have to expand since half of Guénon's œuvre is dedicated towards deconstructing your modern notion of proselytism, which stems from a rejection of true intellectuality and principles. Like I said, I quoted a certain passage of East & West in response to one of your post yesterday and you did not reply, so you are not truly interested in Guénon and his ideas.