/lit/ - Literature

https://bigbluebook.org/

Great Urantia search engine

http://www.starspring.com/online/ubsearch/ubsearch.html

Can someone give me a quick run down

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>>15000995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3RUrtIAKPU

>>15001022
Brahmanic Philosophy
94:3.1.While the highest phase of Brahmanism was hardly a religion, it was truly one of the most noble reaches of the mortal mind into the domains of philosophy and metaphysics. Having started out to discover final reality, the Indian mind did not stop until it had speculated about almost every phase of theology excepting the essential dual concept of religion: the existence of the Universal Father of all universe creatures and the fact of the ascending experience in the universe of these very creatures as they seek to attain the eternal Father, who has commanded them to be perfect, even as he is perfect.

94:3.2.In the concept of Brahman the minds of those days truly grasped at the idea of some all-pervading Absolute, for this postulate was at one and the same time identified as creative energy and cosmic reaction. Brahman was conceived to be beyond all definition, capable of being comprehended only by the successive negation of all finite qualities. It was definitely a belief in an absolute, even an infinite, being, but this concept was largely devoid of personality attributes and was therefore not experiencible by individual religionists.

>>14999674
>Science should do for man materially what religion does for him spiritually
Uh, don't you mean technology?
Science should push forward both technology and spirituality (and health, if you consider that its own thing)

>>14999674
>true religion
Roflmao

>>15000631
Mike Ma AKA Delicious Tacos AKA Mcclay Roman AKA Niccolo Salo

>>14999674
I really don't understand why people refer to 'science' as some kind of monolithic force in society. I think they mean just the general attitude of naturalistic positivism.

>>15001143
99:5.2.Always keep in mind: True religion is to know God as your Father and man as your brother. Religion is not a slavish belief in threats of punishment or magical promises of future mystical rewards.

99:5.3.The religion of Jesus is the most dynamic influence ever to activate the human race. Jesus shattered tradition, destroyed dogma, and called mankind to the achievement of its highest ideals in time and eternity—to be perfect, even as the Father in heaven is perfect.

>>15001171
101:2.8.Reason is the proof of science, faith the proof of religion, logic the proof of philosophy, but revelation is validated only by human experience. Science yields knowledge; religion yields happiness; philosophy yields unity; revelation confirms the experiential harmony of this triune approach to universal reality.
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101:5.2.Science deals with facts; religion is concerned only with values. Through enlightened philosophy the mind endeavors to unite the meanings of both facts and values, thereby arriving at a concept of complete reality. Remember that science is the domain of knowledge, philosophy the realm of wisdom, and religion the sphere of the faith experience.

BASED

>>15001143
Truth is only given in the context of the perspective and understanding for the people for whom it is taught. Buddhism came as a backdrop against braindead vedic ritualism, Christianity against Jewish law-obeying and Islam against superstition and idolatry.
All religions are true.

>>15001129
>>15001129
>the existence of the Universal Father of all universe creatures and the fact of the ascending experience in the universe of these very creatures as they seek to attain the eternal Father, who has commanded them to be perfect, even as he is perfect.
Do yourself a favour and learn about Vishnu.

>>15001654
94:4.2.Hindu theology, at present, depicts four descending levels of deity and divinity:

94:4.3.
1. The Brahman, the Absolute, the Infinite One, the IT IS.

94:4.4.
2. The Trimurti, the supreme trinity of Hinduism. In this association Brahma, the first member, is conceived as being self-created out of the Brahman—infinity. Were it not for close identification with the pantheistic Infinite One, Brahma could constitute the foundation for a concept of the Universal Father. Brahma is also identified with fate.
94:4.5.
The worship of the second and third members, Siva and Vishnu, arose in the first millennium after Christ. Siva is lord of life and death, god of fertility, and master of destruction. Vishnu is extremely popular due to the belief that he periodically incarnates in human form. In this way, Vishnu becomes real and living in the imaginations of the Indians. Siva and Vishnu are each regarded by some as supreme over all.

94:4.6.
3. Vedic and post-Vedic deities. Many of the ancient gods of the Aryans, such as Agni, Indra, Soma, have persisted as secondary to the three members of the Trimurti. Numerous additional gods have arisen since the early days of Vedic India, and these have also been incorporated into the Hindu pantheon.

94:4.7.
4. The demigods: supermen, semigods, heroes, demons, ghosts, evil spirits, sprites, monsters, goblins, and saints of the later-day cults.

>>15001687
You're missing the point, Vishnu IS the representation of eternal divinity.
And stop quoting your own book.

>>15001701
The Vedas say that?

>>15001720
I'm not reading through The Vedas or the Gita again to find passages but yes, Vishnu is at the top level. A large number of Hindu traditions are panentheistic.

I refuse to take any metaphysical book that claims christianity is the only true religion seriously

>>15001826
92:7.3.The many religions of Urantia are all good to the extent that they bring man to God and bring the realization of the Father to man. It is a fallacy for any group of religionists to conceive of their creed as The Truth; such attitudes bespeak more of theological arrogance than of certainty of faith. There is not a Urantia religion that could not profitably study and assimilate the best of the truths contained in every other faith, for all contain truth. Religionists would do better to borrow the best in their neighbors' living spiritual faith rather than to denounce the worst in their lingering superstitions and outworn rituals.

92:7.4.All these religions have arisen as a result of man's variable intellectual response to his identical spiritual leading. They can never hope to attain a uniformity of creeds, dogmas, and rituals—these are intellectual; but they can, and some day will, realize a unity in true worship of the Father of all, for this is spiritual, and it is forever true, in the spirit all men are equal.

>>15001845
Basically the unity of neoplatonism lmao

>>15000995

>urinetea general
>the unbearable faggot urinetea poster

Cringe

>>15001887
Cringe

>>15001892
Epic meme bro. Are you 57? Fucking smelly schizo boomers posting this hippie acid casualty CIA nigger psyop book

>>15001907
Cringe

149:4.2."Anger is a material manifestation which represents, in a general way, the measure of the failure of the spiritual nature to gain control of the combined intellectual and physical natures. Anger indicates your lack of tolerant brotherly love plus your lack of self-respect and self-control. Anger depletes the health, debases the mind, and handicaps the spirit teacher of man's soul. Have you not read in the Scriptures that 'wrath kills the foolish man,' and that man 'tears himself in his anger'? That 'he who is slow of wrath is of great understanding,' while 'he who is hasty of temper exalts folly'? You all know that 'a soft answer turns away wrath,' and how 'grievous words stir up anger.' 'Discretion defers anger,' while 'he who has no control over his own self is like a defenseless city without walls.' 'Wrath is cruel and anger is outrageous.' 'Angry men stir up strife, while the furious multiply their transgressions.' 'Be not hasty in spirit, for anger rests in the bosom of fools.'" Before Jesus ceased speaking, he said further: "Let your hearts be so dominated by love that your spirit guide will have little trouble in delivering you from the tendency to give vent to those outbursts of animal anger which are inconsistent with the status of divine sonship."

>>14999674
So I don't really understand Urantia's views on things like God and the afterlife. It seems very verbose. This is not my style when I'm looking for an answer on something.

What is the briefest, briefest rundown, a few sentences -- not verses -- for:

God: How many?
Trinity, is this a thing?
The afterlife?
Do angels, etc, exist?
Its other gods exist?
Problem of evil?
Does evil exist?
Does Satan?
What about a Demiurge?
What sins does it have?

>>14999674
urantia? more like squanchia

>>15002029
>God: How many?
one
>Trinity, is this a thing?
yes
>The afterlife?
yes
>Do angels, etc, exist?
yes
>Its other gods exist?
no
>Problem of evil?
Allowance of evil is necessary for a free will universe
>Does evil exist?
see above
>Does Satan?
yes
>What about a Demiurge?
no
>What sins does it have?
question unclear

>>15002046
I'll answer more in depth if the thread is still alive when I wakeup

>>15002046
What is the Trinity like?
What is the afterlife like?

What is Satan?

>question unclear
What are the "sins" of the religion. i.e., basic ones like "don't murder" etc are normal. Does it have sins like "don't keep a dog in your house", "don't eat meat on a Friday", "don't eat shellfish" or anything else?

>>15002056
Its quasi Abrahamic i think ( kinda perennialist maybe) so it would include the ten commandments generally. I don't think theres weird specific things like denial of seafood and shit. Bump I guess.

>>15002250
What do you mean "quasi Abrahamic"? What makes it less so?

>>15001907
>Not even the OSS was in existence at the time of its publication
OK Glowie

>>15003315
Ok nugger.

>>15001886
it's exhilarating to know that transhumanist weakings and life extentionists will live their last moments in total anguish, while TK will probably go out with a smile on his face.

>>15002545
I just mean its not a trad abrahmic religion.

>>15004257
That's good to hear, it means it doesn't have many of the things I'm less keen on. I wonder how it gets around "it's Jewish", and a bunch of verses in the Bible that people love to hate.

>>14999674
>another sci-fi Jesus episode
yikes

I like this image

>>15002056
The concept of Trinity is very advanced in the Urantia papers, I will try to go into it later.

Afterlife- there is very much to say of this as well, it is an eternal adventure of ascending through numerous worlds and exploring the universe

Satan was the first assistant of Lucifer, a high spiritual being who led a rebellion against God

"There was war in heaven; Michael's commander and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer, Satan, and the apostate princes); and the dragon and his rebellious angels fought but prevailed not." This "war in heaven" was not a physical battle as such a conflict might be conceived on Urantia. In the early days of the struggle Lucifer held forth continuously in the planetary amphitheater. Gabriel conducted an unceasing exposure of the rebel sophistries from his headquarters taken up near at hand. The various personalities present on the sphere who were in doubt as to their attitude would journey back and forth between these discussions until they arrived at a final decision.

>>15002056
>What are the "sins" of the religion

89:10.2.Sin must be redefined as deliberate disloyalty to Deity. There are degrees of disloyalty: the partial loyalty of indecision; the divided loyalty of confliction; the dying loyalty of indifference; and the death of loyalty exhibited in devotion to godless ideals.

89:10.3.The sense or feeling of guilt is the consciousness of the violation of the mores; it is not necessarily sin. There is no real sin in the absence of conscious disloyalty to Deity.

>>15005407
53:5.7.But this war in heaven was very terrible and very real. While displaying none of the barbarities so characteristic of physical warfare on the immature worlds, this conflict was far more deadly; material life is in jeopardy in material combat, but the war in heaven was fought in terms of life eternal.


53:1.2.Lucifer was a magnificent being, a brilliant personality; he stood next to the Most High Fathers of the constellations in the direct line of universe authority. Notwithstanding Lucifer's transgression, subordinate intelligences refrained from showing him disrespect and disdain prior to Michael's bestowal on Urantia. Even the archangel of Michael, at the time of Moses' resurrection, "did not bring against him an accusing judgment but simply said, 'the Judge rebuke you.'" Judgment in such matters belongs to the Ancients of Days, the rulers of the superuniverse.