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>I am sad that you are not strong, and do not swim or sail or ski. But you have a strong sould, and I will believe in you and make you invincible on this earth.

LOL why do incels prefer to be the guy who the qt feels sorry for? Why not invest money or tend to your physique? I mean you know you will regret it later, and five years ago you probably knew you would regret. This isn't a troll thread.
Regardless what you think of Sylvia Plath, how long can you keep blaming your mental illness for your lack of? I wasn't "socialized" either whatever that means. Explain yourselves.

>> No.14998415

*soul

Well? I'm waiting.

>> No.14998427

>>14998406
It's not the 1940s anymore bud. We don't all have jobs hoisting heavy shit for 12 hour shifts every day. We gotta go out of our way to cultivate asthetic, and I can't leave my house. Calisthenics is for faggots and kung fu.

>> No.14998453

>>14998406
It’s not just incels but chads pull this off too, it’s the best ploy. Any girl who is capable of recognizing strength in remorse, vulnerability, and tenderness is worth fucking. Everybody is else is literally trash, the kind of girls who will pull off some lame ass shit that literally nobody has time for

>> No.14999247

>>14998406
It's because today's world has too much information. While some of us are thinking about how we can get stronger or learn new things, most of the people are watching BS on tv and playing games 16h per day. it's not that it is too hard to workout or to find a good job, is hard to filter information.

>> No.14999280

The higher you set the bar, the more certain you are to fail. Some people can laugh off the failure, and have family and friends to clap them on the back, proud of them for aiming high and trying hard.
Others were born with thinner skin, made more sensitive by lifelong abuses. They timidly set their bars low, low, and lower still, since any failure is devastating to them, and their family and frens will be quick to sneer and jeer and say "I knew it", and "I told you so" at every little setback.

People use a defense mechanism called Compensation to avoid the stings of rejection and harsh judgement. A strong, athletic person may neglect his mind and focus on what he is good at, what brings him the social rewards. A weaker person will often feign weakness, to present himself publicly as someone not in competition with stronger, hyper-social, athletic and successful types, but instead as someone who is "deeper", more sensitive, artistic, enlightened... these personas became easy to recognize, and each is valuable and desired by other types, for various reasons, both good and bad.

Example: I think the current transsexual rage among white males is a reaction to being in an environment with black and brown males--lacking the courage to compete as men and be "proved" inferior, they avoid the need to compete by turning themselves into girls. They are not "brainwashed" by society--since "brainwashing" does not exist-- they are engaged in an elaborate deception to avoid the humiliation of losing competitions with other (darker) men, and of course, declare themselves to be special for their "natural difference", which is not "natural" at all. The media and educational system are simply giving them an exit strategy, a plausible persona, an "acceptable" alternative lifestyle.

Women do the same thing. A pretty girl is treated well, and makes herself prettier still with make-up, and then plastic surgery, both of which will ruin her prettiness in the long run. Getting what she wants by her looks alone, she may fail to cultivate a pleasing personality, and spend all her time gossiping instead of reading, and focusing on money instead of family, the consumer-luxury rewards of "success", instead of the natural-humanistic rewards like family and farm life.
*end part 1*

>> No.14999286

*part 2: Beta Boogaloo*

People often get lost in a world of ideas, feels, and communications... signs and symbols, roles and personas that are not their genuine selves, things they would never have chosen had their circumstances been otherwise.
They can change at any moment, if they so choose, but most will never do that. It takes a second, just one second, to get up and make that change-- and I tell you there is no human being alive that cannot change, no weakling that can't give me 20 good push-ups right now, and start turning himself into the man he should have been, before his course was altered, his growth stunted and perverted by the slings and arrows of the cruel, judgmental people around him.

And there is no loudmouth jock named Chad who cannot better his mind and soul by picking up books by the ancient writers of Greece and Rome, reading the Journals of Sylvia Plath, or just coming to Lit every day to fish for ideas. It takes one second, just one. One second to make the decision to change, to admit that the act you're putting on isn't who you really are, isn't who you want to be. One second to decide to find and become the real you. One second to put aside the anti-capitalist, anti-landlord, MGTOW or incel excuses, one second to put aside the conspiracy theories, the talk about red-pilling and normies, and all the rest. One second to realize that doing the same thing as another person does not mean you are becoming them, or copying them. The catch to that one second is that you must have an absolute Sincerity, and absolute Genuineness in your heart and mind. Be pragmatic, self-directed, not idealistic and other-directed. You don't have to be great to get started, but you have to get started in order to be great. Get started right now. This one second.

>> No.14999310

>>14998406
You sad, narrow bastard. Enjoy your pathetic life.

>> No.14999671

>>14999310
There's no need to get defensive. You didn't answer my questions, did I ask something I shouldn't have?

>> No.14999693

Literally all you have to do is stop trying to get laid and then, assuming you are able to do something other than trying to get laid, you sooner or later will (more likely sooner). Be a bird of prey, not a tender lamb whose strength lies entirely in its miserable fellows.

>> No.14999808

>>14998406
> LOL why do incels prefer to be the guy who the qt feels sorry for?
Assuming this statement were true, I would say that if you are aware of your own shortcomings you'll feel anxiety about being rejected for said shortcomings. Seeing a potential partner willing to be understanding and patient with you even if you fail gives you a feeling of security thus making you more comfortable and willing to engage and be vulnerable with that person.
> Why not invest money or tend to your physique?
People can do this and still desire a partner who is empathetic and understanding. Why would someone wish for a partner who would discard them at the first sign of trouble or weakness? I don't think anyone wishes to be weak, they just don't want to be rejected or punished should they falter at some point in their lives (a highly likely prospect).

>> No.14999819

>>14999286
But striving for greatness is the very definition of other-directness, as 'great' is a title that can only be bestowed by another. Or you can bestow it on yourself, but that only happens when you realize you don't need to accomplish anything.

This is the big failure of western self-improvement, that it tries to press gang philosophical arguments about transcending, into the service of unbridled narcissism and egotism. Self-mastery leads to liberation, not to greatness.

>> No.14999834

Poor is the soul which hands its happiness to the hands of another

>> No.14999838

>>14999834
What about putting your own head in the oven?

>> No.14999856
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14999856

>Anon you look intimidating because you're so big but you're really just a big cuddly bear!
>Haha I know. He's so strong but I don't think he has a rage
What did they mean by this?

>> No.14999857

>>14999834
Why are you seething at such an innocuous statement

>> No.14999868

>>14999857
Meant this for
>>14999838

>> No.14999869

>>14999603
fuck this gay shit
>>>/soc/

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14999874

It's the loneliest time in history

>> No.14999879

>>14999819
Based af.

>> No.14999899

>>14998846
based

>> No.14999900

>>14998406
feels good to have someone obsess over you

>> No.15000047

im so intrested....self-mastery leads to liberation from what?

>> No.15000055

>>14999819
im so intrested....self-mastery leads to liberation from what? ***

>> No.15000070

>>14999683
the cure is capital.

>> No.15000073

>>15000047
>>15000055

Read "Discourse on Voluntary Servitude" by Étienne de La Boétie

>> No.15000084
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15000084

Hehehe woooooooooshhhhh sizzle crackle

>> No.15000158

>>14998406
I just want a girl who believes in me again. However, interacting with me at an intimate level for extended periods of time reveals that I am possibly mentally ill.

>> No.15000187

>>15000073
"I do not know how it happens that nature fails to place within the hearts of men a burning desire for liberty,"

"Liberty is the only joy upon which men do not seem to insist; for surely if they really wanted it, they would receive it. Apparently they refuse this wonderful privilege because it is so easily acquired."

this is good siht

>> No.15000223

>>15000187
It is

>> No.15000249

>>15000223
so my question is what are you striving for? not for greatness,,, not for liberty.... are you "striving" at all? what are you using your life for?

give me a little insight into your personal philosophy

>> No.15000262

>>15000249
Excellence

>> No.15000282

>>15000262

you have discord?

>> No.15000301

>>15000282
No

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15000333

>>14998427
>Calisthenics is for faggots and kung fu.

>> No.15000335

she was a butterface lol

>> No.15000341

Incels just want motivation. Women are a powerful motivator

>> No.15000483

>>15000158
Sounds like you don't believe in yourself

>> No.15000491

>>15000158
none believe in you

>> No.15000947

Why are jews such incoherent spazzes?

>> No.15000948

>>15000249
That guy wasn't me. I strive for nothing at all.

https://realization.org/p/ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita.html

>> No.15001630

>>14998406
Low testosterone

Doing nothing and rationalising it is easier than doing something and improving

>> No.15001825

>>14999280
>>14999286

have sex

>> No.15001837

>>14998406
They're weak, spineless men. They're not the kind of men who would pride themselves on standing up for themselves and their loved ones, or putting an extraordinary amount of effort to achieve an extraordinary feat.

The reason why they value one-sided relationships is because they have nothing to offer to girls, but still expect them to offer something to him. They don't have the body that a woman desires, they can't make a woman laugh, they can't calm a woman down when under stress and make her feel safe, they can't make a woman feel worthy and loved. That's why they will always long for this ideal girl who loves them for who they are and will care for them unconditionally.

>> No.15001839

>>15001837
offer something to them*

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15002827

>>15000158
Sounds like you still haven't grasped that happiness isn't hidden in another soul, but in yours
Embrace your solitude, there is nothing wrong with sharing the world with yourself
Anything convincing you to the contrary is noise
You may eventually share your life with other people intimately but that will never substitute the happiness you must seek by accepting yourself and knowing you are not wrong for existing the way you do