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holy fuck this was cringe

>hurr darwin plato and socrates were bugmen

>durr actually being a barbarian rapist/murderer nig is good

>hehe yeah i exalt male youth and post homoerotic photos of fit twinks every day on my twitter feed but im totally not a faggot pedophile (redundant) guys

i'm never taking another book recommendation from /pol/ ever again

>> No.14983239

>>14983153
>>darwin plato and socrates were bugmen
>>actually being a barbarian rapist/murderer nig is good
>>yeah i exalt male youth and post homoerotic photos of fit twinks every day on my twitter feed
all based. you're just a reddit-spacing faggot who should never have been to /pol/ or /lit/ in the first place.

>> No.14983645

Does cringe mean that is a bad piece of art?

>> No.14983659

>>14983153
>>14983239

>> No.14983680

Socrates and Plato could literally take on all of /pol/ right now and win

>> No.14983681

>>14983153
>>hurr darwin plato and socrates were bugmen
He never said that. He actually quoted Plato and reccomended him.

>durr actually being a barbarian rapist/murderer nig is good
He gave a lot of reasons for why it's preferable to 90% of human civilizations.

>>hehe yeah i exalt male youth and post homoerotic photos of fit twinks every day on my twitter feed but im totally not a faggot pedophile (redundant) guys
You are gay.

>> No.14983688

>>14983645
if an art is cringe that means it's bad. in facct that's the worst thing for a work of art to be, and means it's failed in every possible way at being art

>> No.14983698
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14983698

> he fell for the traditionalism meme

>> No.14983699

Stop replying, it's the same dude who spams BAM threads to shit on it despite admitting he's never read it
He's autistic and he hasn't missed a BAM thread in a whole year

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>>14983698
This isn't Traditionalist lit, tranny-anon.

>> No.14983708

>>14983698
he took the traditionalism meme to its logical conclusion, in a certain sense it's the ultimate work of satire on traditionalism

>> No.14983712

>>14983708
You have no clue about what you're talking about. Read a book sometime.

>> No.14983715

>>14983699
BAP book is unironically hard to understand if you are not smart enough and even more important if your inner nature isn't strong enough.
Ironically women who aren't on the pill or antidepressants tend to like it, although they don't understand the ontological part at the beginning

>> No.14983716

>>14983706
>wishing to go back to the bronze age warrior mindset that Evola loved
>not traditionalism

>> No.14983721

>>14983716
Evola wanted to go back to the golden age, anon. He wanted Augustus, not Odysseus

>> No.14983732

>>14983721
Either way it's all austic espically when someone look at Evola. His only worthwhile critique is of Materialism which some leftists already wrote about smd better. The examples being Rudolf Rocker and Bookchin

>> No.14983737

>>14983732
Midwit, gay, basedboy etc, but unironically, please keep doing what you're doing in your life. You will be chained soon

>> No.14983743

>>14983715
I don't know about that. I've lent it to a bunch of my friends, half of whom are dumb as rocks, and they all understood and enjoyed it. The central idea of owned vs unowned space is intuitive for most young men. Ironically it's the subject least discussed when the book is brought up.

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>>14983737
Lmao this is coming from someone who like a man that used his own proper mother as shield to protect himself. Please stay online, us on the left have a rent and general strike thay we gotta deal with on April first. Oh and have sex.

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>>14983753
>being stuck inside liberalism
>basing your entire identity on this
>larping 'marxist' even though you don't know the first thing about the man or what he wrote
>being this much of an ass-slave to capital
Wew.

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>>14983771
>Marxism is liberalism
>claming to base my identity on proletarianism despite Marx writing how bad it is
>ass slave to capital
Sweet jesus the brain on you. No wonder the left is winning literally everywhere

>> No.14983789

>>14983698
I met bap multiple
He is literally the doppelgänger of this funko pop lego man
Not even lying it is fucking hilarious

>> No.14983809

>>14983788
They aren’t everyone hates you guys lol

That’s why you feel like everyone is staring at you at the Chili’s

>> No.14983830

>>14983809
>people radicalizing on how capitalism needs them to work despite the pandemic
>can't even get basic need met
>socialist countries are dealing with it better
>landlords still want their money
>Chile,France,Italy,Spain and even Germany are facing protests where there's a large socialist/communist presence
>"why does capitalism still want us to work"
If you only knew how good it all is. Also that chili's part is way to specific. Something happened bud? You can tell me

>> No.14983841

Cringe? Yes, but he's at least onto something. Cultural marxists are so boring, even as they continue to surprise.

>> No.14983846

>>14983153
>taking book recommendations from /pol/
What did you expect?

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>>14983841
>cultural marxism

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>>14983788
Marxism is dead and you're a retarded larper. I really wish Western neoliberal colleges would stop pumping out cringelords like you.

>> No.14983881

>>14983856
Marxism ain't dead it hasn't even started. This only the baby steps. Where liberals become radlibs and then marxists

>> No.14983882

>>14983852
Yes, cultural marxism. Everything they teached you it was according to the interest of the "philantropists" that bankroll the modern academia. They do this in an intent of turning you in a retarded, negative dialect fuelled, social-construtivist meddled, fr*nkfurt-read, cringelord moron that thinks is smart enough to perform what you do poorly and dumb enough to not know what you should. Dependant. Slave. Misdirectioned and misconcepted.

>> No.14983890

>>14983882
Based academia

>> No.14983933

Everytime I see this book being defended with the "you didn't get the real point" no one is able to say or explain what the actual content is.
And as long as no one is able or willing to actually point it out, I'll refuse to believe that this actually holds any greater meaning.

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>>14983882
Educated dumb.

>> No.14983940

>>14983153
you are cringe.
It's about cultivating a mindset contrary to the current state of soulless modernity.
It's not meant to be taken as literal advice, but as inspiration to draw upon. If something is pissing you off, and your boss is shitting on you, and your gal is whoring around, what are you gonna do about it? Take it like a good little bitch because you can't act out in modern society, because of the consequences?
Instead of asking yourself, "What would Jeses do?"
Ask yourself, "What would Ragnar Redbeard do?"
bitch and sulk? or pop the piece of shit aping you in the face?
Most people who shit on you do so, only because they think they can do so with impunity. It can pay to remind someone every once in a while that you're an overevolved caveman capable of braining them if they push you too much.

>> No.14983964

>>14983698
is this a cross between le crying Star Wars man and Giga Chad?

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>>14983940

>> No.14983996

>>14983743
>the central idea of owned vs unowned space
Tell me more.

>> No.14984024

>>14983996
No, read the book.

>> No.14984031

>>14983940
"What would Ragnar Redbeard do?"

Dance around the woods like a piss ignorant filthy savage with his dick painted blue.

Then he would go out and rape and steal from innocent people who ment him no harm, i.e. act like a white nigger.

>> No.14984107

>>14984024
>No, read the book.
Perfect example why the book and its defenders get rightfully laughed at.
Instead of arguing for any real meaningful idea, even a simple inquiry about a certain topic, gets thrown out and instead a "read the book" is the only answer. So when an anon comes back and didn't agree with it he can get called a faggot who got filtered.
Embarrassing.

>> No.14984262

>>14983239
and look how sparta ended up compared to athens..

>> No.14984273

>>14984262
Athens was as barbabarian as Sparta. BAP praises it in the book.
The modern idea of Athens is completely wrong. It was a city based around WAR

>> No.14984470

>>14984262
and look how athens ended up compared to rome..

>> No.14984745

>>14984107
I'm half way through the book. I think the gist of it is that when you sense that you are in owned space from the time you become conscious, it is demoralizing as the highest thing you could aspire to is to be a slave. As opposed to existing in space that is available to be conquered. Everything in the book is kind of hard to argue, but like>>14983743 said, it is intuitive.

>> No.14984763

>>14983940
>cultivating a mindset contrary to the current state of soulless modernity
>posts homoerotic pictures on social media all day

>> No.14984774

>>14983698
This fag also hates Socrates so what does that tell you?

>> No.14984796

>>14984107
What the fuck are you talking about you retard? Nobody is arguing about the book, one poster wants the other to summarize the main concept of the book. If you want to understand what's in the book then fucking read it.

>> No.14984908

>>14984107
Shut the fuck up you melodramatic newfaggot, I'm not going to spoonfeed you. Read a book for once in your life.

>> No.14984917

>>14983153
based

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The modern right follows the doctrine of an obese black schizophrenic
https://youtu.be/B1K5DzNXaic

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>>14983856
Unintentionally ironic post of the day.

>> No.14984991

>>14984978
What kind of meme is this?

>> No.14984998

>>14984991
Didn't you hear? Britney Spears recently came out as a communist.

>> No.14985001

>>14984991
It's a marxist "meme"

>> No.14985017

>>14984998
She shaved her head a long time ago

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>>14983153
>>14983698
>>14983716
>>14983771
>>14983841
>>14984273
*eternally BTFOes BAP*
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJmFHi68DNc&feature=emb_logo

>> No.14985029

>>14985017
That was back in her benighted neoliberal youth.

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>>14985026
Keith is too good for this board, anon.

>> No.14985287

>>14985026
>One rightwing Geoff Bezos or Karl Marx is worth 10,000 handsome Scandinavian body builders
Yeah not shit. 10,000 handsome Scandinavian body builders is also worth more than 100,000 effete, ugly (and otherwise equally unsuccessful in finance and intellectualism) Scandinavians. The rest of his arguments crumble away after that fact. No one reading BAM, or taking it seriously, was going to be the next Karl Marx.
Also he is 140lbs skele, disregarded for that reason alone

>> No.14985302

>>14985287
Nice nitpicking, fag. He was criticizing BAP's political game plan. Just supporting zionist conservative politicians and playing the optics game while waiting for a collapse so you get to LARP as Caesar for New Vegas is folly. You're admitting that you don't have a solution to our post modern world other than biding time and waiting for a collapse

>> No.14985330

>>14985287
post pics of your bulging muscles sexy :^)

>> No.14985333

>>14985302
The average man has literally zero chance to affect political change in a Western society. He choices are infiltrate, secede or wait. Woods doesn't have a solution, you don't have a solution, BAP doesn't have a solution, and I don't have a solution. No one on /lit/ has a practical solution to modernity. So while I tend to my own garden and wait, why the fuck wouldn't I vote for the zionists that AT LEAST propose we lower the number of third world shit we import in the mean time instead of watching the zionists that want more 3rd world trash get elected anyways.

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>>14983153
There is only one man who provides the cure to our post modern hellscape. Good speed Spencerman
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub4qnyDusqU

>> No.14985346

>>14985333
>The average man
Stopped you right there. The average normie doesn't matter. Yes nationalists and identitarian romantics care about the average man in a sense but they don't care whether they get involved in politics or not. One right wing Soros is more important than a million /pol/tards who make epic memes about the USS liberty.

Honestly the model for sucess is Scientology in away. Scientology managed to infiltrate into the elite of America and collecting high status figures like Tom Cruise and is even sort of a competing religion to Judaism in Hollywood

>> No.14985348

I jerk off to twinks all the time and I exclusively fuck traps. I'm still not even close to being a homosexual.

>> No.14985358

>>14985333
>why the fuck wouldn't I vote for the zionists that AT LEAST propose we lower the number of third world shit we import in the mean time instead of watching the zionists that want more 3rd world trash get elected anyways.
Woods explained why, dipshit

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>>14985333
>The average man has literally zero chance to affect political change in a Western society. He choices are infiltrate, secede or wait.
There is a fourth option, the one that actually works, simply take back power by force. Modern society is extremely vulnerable.

>> No.14985360

cringe

>> No.14985370

>>14985346
One right wing Soros is more important than a million /pol/tards who make epic memes about the USS liberty
Okay retard how the FUCK are these two things mutually exclusive? The future rightwing Soros is too smart to be making retarded memes on /pol/, he's a different breed of person. Same with the future rightwing Karl Marx. BAM isn't going to somehow lure these people away from greatness- if it could, they weren't great to begin with.
>>14985358
Pining for some sort of solution outside of mainstream politics is fantastic, too bad neither he nor any other rightwing dissident has provided an actionable avenue to do this.
>>14985359
This is BAM.

>> No.14985388

>>14983698
Damn, morphing his face with gigachad still couldn’t do shit. His genes are so bad they mogged gigachad’s out of contention.

>> No.14985391

>>14985370
>BAM isn't going to somehow lure these people away from greatness- if it could, they weren't great to begin with.
Lmao nice excuse nerd. Woods iru+futably BTFOed the bronze age Pervert (just lol @ the name) and your only cope is
>w-well the future right wing soros wouldn't be detered by BAP anyways, y-yeah!
And? So? That doesn't mean that everything we just said isn't a totally valid critique of BAP and how he's just an avenue to self-obsessed inaction

>> No.14985399

>>14985370
>This is BAM.
No BAM is about voting for zionist politicians and never breaking free from the basic conservatism vs open borders leftism dialectic and praying for a collapse while LARPing as a viking god and posting on twitter about Agartha

>> No.14985410

>>14985391
irrefutably*

>> No.14985429

>>14985399
His advice at the end of the book is place yourself and your friends in positions to influence and seize power when the opportunity presents itself.
>>14985391
Yeah it's fine man, just defer to the video to do all the talking for you, BAP permanently BTFO I agree

>> No.14985433

>>14984107
KYS

>> No.14985439

>>14985429
>Yeah it's fine man, just defer to the video to do all the talking for you, BAP permanently BTFO I agree
Every single thing you said in this thread has been refuted by Keith Woods. Keep coping BAP. I know it's you. Now post physique

>> No.14985453

>>14985429
>His advice at the end of the book is place yourself and your friends in positions to influence and seize power when the opportunity presents itself.
No one disagrees with this lol. Just like with the lifting. No one's saying that you shouldn't lift or that looking beautiful isn't important, dipshit.

If the only thing that you can defend from BAP's work is some basic bitch advice like "lifting is actually good mannn" or "dude it's good to have friends and be successful" than you've lost. Did you not lsiten to Keith talking about Aristolean ethics vs BAP's pseudo NEETch babble or his failure to break free from the false dialectic of BASTE zionists BTFOing libtards vs open borders leftism?

>> No.14985456

>>14985439
Woods' arguments are fucking irrelevant to the book, which he admits he didn't even read fully, which is even more embarrassing considering it's like a 1 hour read back to front. Woods is self refuting; his advice is even more vacuous and juvenile than BAP's, and BAP's suggestions are already far and away the weakest part of the book.

>> No.14985464

>>14983153
>>hurr darwin plato and socrates were bugmen
Plato is based, and incredibly enjoyable to read
>>durr actually being a barbarian rapist/murderer nig is good
The only people that say this are cowards that are too afraid to do this in a society where it is legal. They need the law to tell them it's okay when they know it obviously isn't.
>>hehe yeah i exalt male youth and post homoerotic photos of fit twinks every day on my twitter feed but im totally not a faggot pedophile (redundant) guys
Faggot

Good thing I haven't read it and never will. IDK if this is b8 or not OP, but I agree with it either way.

>> No.14985470

>>14985302
That's not what BAP advocates at all though. BAP pretty clearly sees America as eventually going the way of Latin America and he wants his people to be in positions to take advantage of this when it does.

>> No.14985472

>>14985456
I knew you would fall back to
>W-well Woods didn't read my entire ecelebs book!111
Just lol all of his critique if perfectly valid and doesn't need to read all that shit. You haven't given out a single refutation of Keith's critique beyond:
>W-well being jacked is better than being skinny!
which Keith never denied just lol no one denies that being jacked is a bad thing

>> No.14985474

>>14985464
>I haven't read it and never will
Why are you so proud of ignorance?

>> No.14985482

>>14985474
>Why are you so proud of ignorance?
because i didn't fall for a Jordan Peterson of 4chan meme.

>> No.14985483

>>14985474
says the BAP sycophant who is openly anti intellectual

>> No.14985484

>>14985453
>his failure to break free from the false dialectic of BASTE zionists BTFOing libtards vs open borders leftism?
You mean the same failure of Woods and literally every single dissident "thinker"?
>Aristolean ethics vs BAP's pseudo NEETch babble
Feel free to demonstrate how much society has changed since MccIntyre's After Virtue was published, or how the Catholic church has offered opportunities for the faithful laity to exert political change.

>> No.14985491

OP never played a contact sport

>> No.14985497

>>14985470
See that's the problem with BAP. He just accepts defeat because any sort of real refutation of the neoliberalist world order and breaking free of the false dialectic of american politics is bad optics or spergy in his mind.

Just voting for and campaigning for le baste conservative leader who is also a zionist while biding you time and waiting for the collapse is a cope ideology. For all this talk about strength and seizing power, you chose the path of the weak. waiting for the collapse is just sticking your head in the ground and refusing to actually engage with the world. He's admitting that he doesn't have a solution to our post modern world besides hoping that it collapses on itself

>> No.14985508

>>14985484
>You mean the same failure of Woods and literally every single dissident "thinker"?

Spencer's 30 second talk on CNN about "red meat" racism is more important than anything BAP did. It BTFOed all the basic racist conservatives, irony bros and low IQ who couldn't grasp what Spencer was saying

>> No.14985519

>>14985484
Seizing power because you are le epik agarthean bodybuilder is not a compelling ideology. Nationalism is rooted in morals and there is a righteousness in defending your people. Just handwaving away any sort of morality as nerd shit and just BE A STRONG BODYBUILDER BRO WAIT FOR THE COLLAPSE AND BECOME A WARLORD BRO is cope

>> No.14985524

>>14985483
I've not read BAP either. It just seems like a strange thing to brag about. Let's say I haven't read Marx or any of the subsequent thinkers following him, I might say he's a retarded moron or I could brag about not reading any of his output, doing both at once seems stupid though.

>> No.14985568

>>14985508
In a generally embarrassing thread this emerges as the most embarrassing post in the whole thing
>>14985519
Anti-semetic, outsider Nationalism isn't a compelling ideology either. Clearly catholic traditionalism isn't either. Being an effete "dissident intellectual" enacting less change than the "self obsessed inaction people" is the flip side of the same coin. Ultimately if any breakthrough comes through it will be by the diversification of rightwing critique and thought rather than some twink declaring that there's only one way forward and it's his way.

>> No.14985589

>>14985497
>he's a LARPer
>he's a do nothing coper
What are you even trying to say? In one post you're accusing him of being a LARPer and in another you're accusing him of literally doing nothing. LARPing is marching around Charlottesville pretending it's 1920s Germany like Nick Fuentes or Richard spencer. Doing literally nothing is embracing "the great refusal" like Moldbug and the NRx guys. BAP isn't either of those. He wants his people to affect political change but he realizes that nobody cares what a bunch of street LARPers want. You need elites either way, I don't see how anything you've said refutes him at all.

>> No.14985608

>>14985568
Holy cope. I can tell you're low IQ. Spencer was right about the "red meat racism that Donald Trump is throwing". It's just a phony sort of racism that doesn't lead to anything.

The establishment allows the people it's 2 minutes of racism. Like when Trump called it the China virus but later made sure to mention that he was critiquing the Chinese government and no the Chinese race. It's cynically taking these nationalist sympathies and funneling them into them into the same basic bitch conservatism

>> No.14985616

>>14985589
>doing nothing is actually based guys! Wait for the collapse
Moldbug and BAP are not going to even be remembered in 10 years time.

>> No.14985637

>>14985589
Charlottesville wasn't LARPing as SS soldiers. It was protesting for a monument that represented a part of white identity.

The people with the worst optics at Charlottesville (Moustache Matt, Patrick Casey who were both throwing out roman salutes in broad daylight) are the same people who now reject Spencer as a cringe wignat and think Nick Fuentes is the way forward

>> No.14985654

>>14985608
So which is it retard, is the BAM not the way to go because it's not based on rationalism and morality (therefore making it not an uncompelling ideology) or is unabashed out in the air racism the way to go, which is clearly rational, moral as well as intensely compelling for future Western elites? Do you really think the future rightwing Karl Marx or George Soros is slobbering to get some race riots started?

>> No.14985678

>>14985654
>So which way is it retard, is it this false choice or THIS false choice?

bro...
>Do you really think the future rightwing Karl Marx or George Soros is slobbering to get some race riots started?
Never said I supported race riots wtf. If you're referring to Charlottesville that was a product of it's time showing that there was an appetite for white identity especially right after Trump was elected however no one at that time really thought the Trump would turn his back on his voter base and become a compete zionist shill back then

>> No.14985692

>>14985678
>He's a 20 minute video of why BAP is wrong
>Post-enlightenment rationality and ethics can't be ignored or circumvented, BAP's antiethics are bad
>What's really important is ACTIONABLE RACISM

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>>14985616
Moldbug's been around for like a decade, Lindy demands he'll be around for at least another. BAP will only have staying power if he can write another book that's worth reading and flesh out his ideas. Worst case scenario though I think he'll end up inspiring some Zoomers on Twitter.

>>14985637
>bro we weren't LARPers sonnenrad and fasces really resonate with normal Americans

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>Charlottesville wasn't LARPing as SS soldiers

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>Charlottesville wasnt LARPing as SS soldiers

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>>14985728
>>14985740
>>14985754
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS I CAN'T WAIT TO DRINK MY GLYCINE SUPPLEMENT LIKE BAP TOLD ME YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS I'M GOING TO BE A WARLORD ONCE SOCIETY COLLAPSES

>> No.14985778

>>14985728
>>14985740
>>14985754
>low IQ BAP sycophant cherry picks one line out of my entire argument

Why is it always low IQ internet debaters who do this? Stop obsessing over one point and look at the entire argument

>> No.14985795

>>14985778
Pretty rich coming from the guy who posted a video critiquing BAP without realizing literally all of the criticisms also apply to wigger nationalists like himself

>> No.14985809

>>14985795
Keith provides a holistic argument while yours was cherry picking and posting pics of MUH CHARLOTTESVILLE

>> No.14985814

>>14983732
>Bookchin
Is this the new /lit/ meme now that we’re all bored of guenon? I keep seeing his name

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>>14983716
>>wishing to go back to the bronze age warrior mindset that Evola loved
What?? Also Evola is about spiritual matters not material conditions of society, which according to him any will do.

>> No.14985835

>>14985772
ironic shitposting is the lowest form of shitposting

>> No.14985837

>>14985835
that's rich coming from the BAPfag

>> No.14985838

>>14985772
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT INFILTRATE EXISTING POWER STRUCTURES THATS LARPING YOU HAVE TO HECKIN MARCH AROUND THE SOUTH WAVING GERMAN RUNERINOS AROUND

>>14985778
>say something stupid and wrong
>"wow you're so low IQ for calling me out!"
Wew

>> No.14985844

>>14985754
>bunch of libertarian flags
>one NSDAP flag
HOLY HECKERS THEY'RE NAZIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.14985847

>>14984262
stop making me like bronze age mindset anon.

>> No.14985849

>>14985838
>>NOOOOOO YOU CANT INFILTRATE EXISTING POWER STRUCTURES THATS LARPING YOU HAVE TO HECKIN MARCH AROUND THE SOUTH WAVING GERMAN RUNERINOS AROUND
low IQ Keith already refuted you. Why do you think that anyone who opposes the false dialectic of neoliberalist world order conservatism vs open borders leftism means they're some nazi LARPer?

>> No.14985860

>>14985809
Explain exactly how Woods' holistic arguments apply to BAP but but Specerian white nationalism

>> No.14985882

>>14985860
Spencer is not a white nationalist

>> No.14985921

>>14983788
>Marxism is liberalism
Yes.

>> No.14985940

>>14984031
Your nose is showing.

>> No.14985948

>>14985849
He hasn't refuted shit, he doesn't address anything in the fucking book at all. He spends the first 10 minutes addressing a point that BAP himself addresses in the book and the latter 10 minutes saying "well this isn't the way" without offering any actual alternative. BAP self-evidently opposes the dialectic, everyone in this space from Keith to Fuentes to spencer to Moldbug and so on opposes that dialectic otherwise they wouldn't be in this space. We're talking about the strategies of best going about undermining that dialectic.

>> No.14985978

Why should I read this instead of rereading Conan stories

>> No.14986005

>>14985978
You've already read Conan

>> No.14986022

>>14986005
Does he associate with Conan values?

>> No.14986084

>>14986022
I mean he's basically the political equivalent of Conan

>> No.14986690

Reminder that BAM isn't mesnt to be read by Americans.
If you were born in the USA you're not his target audience (except very few exception). He already knows the USA is doomed: there's no hope for it. It is unironically a good thing that Mexico is invading it.
The bugman in the video will never understand BAM because he's american, so is the mutt in this thread.

>> No.14986701

>>14983964
>>14985388
It's a cross between star wars guy and Nick Land

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>>14983830
lmao

>> No.14986742

>>14986690
>The bugman in the video will never understand BAM because he's american
He's Irish. Also isn't BAP Brazillian? They're even more fucked than America

>> No.14987231

>>14983239
this

>> No.14987618

>>14986084
Don't you dare to tarnish Conan with some midwit Twitter shitposter.

>> No.14987770

>>14985472
Are you the faggot that made the video?

>> No.14987870

>>14985026
>>14985042
>buddy buddy with Richard Spencer
Brainlet

>> No.14988028

>>14983680
lol

>> No.14988069

Does anyone know what country he is from?

I suspect he probably has some Brazilian family or something of the sort. He knows a lot about Brazil. But I don't think he's Brazilian. Pretty sure he's European.

>> No.14988124

>>14983830
you do realise that everyone is getting radicalised in both directions?
More leftists are becoming radicals, but the same is true for rightists

>> No.14988144

Could BAP be Argentinian?

>> No.14988145

>>14987870

spencer's an obvious paid asset and a literal faggot, but whether he's being told what to say by a team of minions or not, i can't deny that he has consistently good takes.

>> No.14988150 [DELETED] 

>>14983153
dude never buy anthing from a e-celeb

>> No.14988159

>>14988144
Maybe. Or maybe Portuguese? Uruguayan? Spanish?

>> No.14988505

>>14983716
Traditionalist like Evola privileged being over becoming. Bap's values are the opposite, he describes the transcendental realm of being as something that is ghost-like, half-real, and gay.
Bap and Evola converge in their positive valuation of martiality and Illiberalism which is certainly enough for them to be disregarded by the majority of moderns but that doesn't mean they are a homogeneous block.

>> No.14988712

>>14985348
Same, fellow faggot :)

>> No.14989619

>>14988069
BAP is a computer programmer from NYC. columbia grad. figure out the rest

>> No.14989644

>>14989619
How would you know? Nothing I've seen that he's said even in his early days when he was Hyperion on salo points to the idea that he's a computer programmer. I got the impression that he was somehow connected to the entertainment industry.

>> No.14989655

>>14983153
Plato was a professional wrestler at a time when wrestling was actually serious and practised exclusively by obscenely muscular men. I doubt BAP could take him. Ergo, his hypothesis of "might makes right" is in bad faith.

>> No.14989660

>>14989655
He spends a large portion of the book arguing against a Darwinian "might makes right" outlook, retard. Read the book.

>> No.14989723

>>14989660
>we need to be like the barbarians of old
>oh but I don't mean might makes right
>I mean this deeply contrived other way of essentially saying the same thing as might makes right
lol no thanks

>> No.14989745

>>14989723
>I dont know what the book actually argues so I'll just make shit up because I'm a pseud
lad...

>> No.14989747

>>14989655
>>14989660
>>14989723
Jesus fucking Christ
He says Plato is a faggot for his philosophy, he knows he was a wrestler and the very point that Plato could kick his ass is why he wants to reinvigorate an element of Bronze Age vitality.

>> No.14989759

>>14983153
A lot of that would be forgivable, as far as enjoying it for its own sake, if the guy were capable of writing in English above grade school level.

>> No.14989762

>>14989745
>I can't refute what this poster is saying so I'll just call him a pseud
classic

>> No.14989771

>>14989762
He hasn't addressed anything in the book so there's nothing to refute

>> No.14989781

>>14989771
How is it not a case of might makes right? Go on. This should be good.

>> No.14989789

>>14985026
Not even close. Just look at his sallow unhealthy face. The guy barely understands Nietzsche, he thinks Nietzsche is a nihilist. He doesn't realize Nietzsche values beauty. And Keith clearly has no appreciation for beauty.

Keith has given up, you can see it in his eyes and hear it in his voice. He wants to rationally convince everyone to accept defeat like he has.

>> No.14989803

>>14989781
Owned space vs unowned space has nothing to do with might makes right, and the entire book is explaining what space is, why it's important, how it's been taken away, and avenues to hopefully create unowned space in the future.

>> No.14989811

>>14989781
What are you even trying to ask? He spends a large section of the book arguing against might makes right. He outright says that lower forms of life, which he terms "Longhouse" societies, are the dominant norm in human history and that what he views as higher forms are the exception.

>> No.14989841

>>14989803
How does he propose to make space unowned once more without resorting to might?
>>14989811
>higher forms
What makes them higher in his view?

>> No.14989848

>>14985882
He’s advocated for the purging of racial minorities and the formation of a European white ethnostate

>> No.14989855

>>14988145
The only good takes he has are the low hanging fruit of Trump and American conservatives being incompetent. Anytime he talks about race he comes off as a massive retard

>> No.14989927

>>14983940
>Punch people in the face because you have anger issues
Jesus fucking Christ /pol/ even /fit/ isn't this autistic

>> No.14989942

>>14984273
>>14984470
>>14985847
athens was israel, sparta was the us military with moar aids

>> No.14989954

>>14989619
I go to Columbia, how do you know this anon?

>> No.14989992

>>14985026
THIS WEAK SPECIMEN IS THE ANTI-AESTHETIC

DO NOT TRUST WHAT "HE" SAYS

>> No.14989993

>>14983153
the part about that greek fella was fucking great are you kidding me?

>> No.14990002

>>14989927
The greatest irony is the only people who have actually acted IRL like that have been those bizarre Antifa leftists. You reveal yourself too much in your selective critique.

>> No.14990037

>>14984262
You mean well? Extremely stable, proud, and only reduced in size and military might instead of honor or tradition? Athens fell all the same and did it more frequently.
>>14989942
Retarded take. Then never pretended to liked each other.

>> No.14990047

>>14989841
>explain the entire book to me

>> No.14990055

>>14990002
It's a book that's only really recommended by /pol/ and we're on /lit/, if you'd like me to provide a full market reference of all recommendations and advertisements feel free to put the data together.

>> No.14990065

>>14988069
Link to his posts on Salo? I can't find them when I search Hyperion for username

>> No.14990083

>>14990055
It wasn't that bad, it was written rather bizarre but there are some interesting side-stories. For example the section on Alcibiades and Bob Denard was great.

>> No.14990119

>>14990037
their relations wasnt the point. im saying they're both shit in their own ways, and spartan boys grew up with their creative drive repressed

>> No.14990133

>>14990047
>can't summarise because he knows it will be revealed as yet another "will to power but different" rehash
lol

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>>14990133
>say something wrong
>get called out on it
>"well if I'm wrong then summarize me the entire book!"

>> No.14990391

>gets called out for retarded opinions on a book he hasn't read
>demands refutation, receives it
>asks that someone summarize the entire book after getting BTFO
what did >>14990133 mean by this?

>> No.14990423

>>14990215
>>14990391
u dumbass niggas got trolled lmfaoo

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>>14990423

>> No.14990552

>>14990215
>then summarize me
ESL, retarded or both? You mean "summarise the entire book for me." Holy shit. If you're going to insult someone, try not to write like a gurning spastic whilst doing so.

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>>14990552
>if i act like le super hacker 4chanman troll everyone will forget that I'm retarded!

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>>14983680
lmao true

>> No.14990607

>>14983153
is it Nietzschean? cringe of cringes

>> No.14990611

>>14990591
Answer the question.

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>>14990611
>it doesnt matter if im a psued who tries to insult books I havent read and then gets mad when nobody summarizes the entire book for me I asked you a question!

>> No.14990965

>>14989992
post body, let's see those BAP muscles.

>> No.14991070

>>14985754
Pretty sure that dude in front with the shield is just a Mountain Blade fan

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>>14990864
>a psued
Based ESL retard. Keep at it.

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>>14983153
Ok so i see this thread in the catalog and click on the picture:
>the bronze age mindset

>i think about history before ancient times about people without any history before them building pyramids and writing their stories as first intelligent life in 14 billion years down

>i look the book up in amazon

>some autistic rightoid jerking off some mystical concepts he invented himself to feel like a big boye
>look down reccommended for you:
>the bell curve, "the young right wings handbook", 12 rules for life
>pic related

you tradcucks never cease to amaze me

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>>14991083
>didn't read the book
>calling other people esl

>> No.14991681

>>14983645
I have a question: what is cringe? What is based? What is their difference?

>> No.14992429

>>14991681
There’s no fundamental difference.

>> No.14992868

>>14985302
>>14985333
*blocks your path*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Q3VHBdnXM

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>>14991681
Please ignore my post I was just pretending to be retarded but now I feel guilty about it.

>> No.14994555

>>14983239
Based department is on the line

>> No.14994580

>/trannypol/er trying to bait people into contact with his AIDS

>> No.14994871

>>14983153
that whole circle jerk of twitter is fucking cringe

>> No.14995367

>>14994593
COOOOF

>> No.14995418

>>14983830
cummies have been saying this since drumpf got elected too but in reality you guys are completely unelectable and have bee crushed over and over again (melanwhatshisname in france, corbyn, sanders, etc. etc. etc.)
get out of your """dirtbag left""" bubble m8

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>>14995339
Upper shelf in French, lower shelf in English (except for the Bible). Not including what I’m currently reading.

>> No.14995440

>>14983239
This.
Op is a faggot

>> No.14995473

>>14990600
>/pol/
>this white
I see you're new here.

>> No.14996785

>>14988144
>Could BAP be Argentinian?

don´t flatter yourself monkey