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Are Rand's ideas that bad?

>> No.14927894

Yes :3

There are philosophers who think that way who do a much better job.

Frederick Von Hayek is much better, for instance. I would also direct you to Nicole Oresme’s De Moneta.

I would steer clear of Austrian economics though. In general, this is a tasteless area. I gave you the gems. Now get in and get out fast.

>> No.14927895

>>14927888
They do not necessarily entail the genocide of all trannies & niggers, which means they necessarily cannot be good ideas.

>> No.14927898

>>14927895
You have a very narrow concept of what classifies a good idea. Isn’t that just one idea? So that all ideas are not good ideas unless they are that one idea?

>> No.14927909

>>14927898
Not true. In fact it is infinitely broad, the only requirement is that they logically entail the genocide of all trannies & niggers. For example, you may take this as an axiom and then add extra distinct axioms as you please. Note that I am not fully characterizing the notion of "good idea", only presenting one of potentially many more implications of any valid conception of it.

>> No.14927911

>Libertarian
Fucking neoclassical liberals

>> No.14927915

>>14927911
Hey, get back at it. Do some dildo hopping for me *smacks ass* :3

>> No.14927917

>>14927915
I'm thinking based

>> No.14927921

>>14927917
Shut up. Neither of us respect any of you. :3

>> No.14927924

>>14927921
Yeah, it's based

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Read Atlas Shrugged and make the decision yourself. I personally loved it.

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>>14927895
>>>14927888 (OP)
>They do not necessarily entail the genocide of all trannies & niggers, which means they necessarily cannot be good ideas.

My sides

>> No.14928976

>>14927888
>ideas that bad
I don't know, but the prose is disgusting.

>> No.14929113

>>14927888
Her rationale is logical but realistically would not form a functional society. She's less retarded than left-wing thinkers but never grew up enough to embrace statism.

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>>14927888
For me, it's National Socialism or bust. Libertarianism, like communism, is a product of Jewish trickery and subversion.

>> No.14929151

I find that the fountainhead differs greatly from AS, and I personally really enjoyed the fountainhead. It’s not an artfully written book that makes you fall in love with the prose, but the story it’s self was engaging. Speaks much more towards freedom of artistic expression and defiance of cultural norms than anything economic. Maybe the symbol of architecture could be drawn out to free markets but I don’t think so.

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14929166

>Buckley
>right

That goofy looking glass eyed pinhead pompous old fart wasn’t right about anything in his entire life.

>> No.14929217

Ayn Rand was a crazy russian Jew hopped up on absurd amounts of amphetamines.

And yet I've found like ~90% of the people who hate Rand are scum who want thinking people to shut up and obey them like drones.

>> No.14929286

libertarianism is fundementally retarded.

>> No.14929369

I don’t know what’s worse: an ANCAP society or a communist one.

>> No.14929487

>>14929166
Yeah, I should agree with most of his ideas, I just find he's almost impossible to like desu

>> No.14929500

>>14927895
Holy based

>> No.14929505

>>14929369
unironically ancap is worse than commie.

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>>14929369
Ancapistan would look something like Blade Runner, but probably not as cool and advanced.

Read this pleasant book to see what communism is supposed to look like.

>> No.14929985

>>14929576
This is the third time i've seen you shilling nfn today

>> No.14930011

amazing how much rand makes lefties seethe so long after her death. that's how you know she's based and red pilled

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>>14929985
I've just finished it and it's lovely.

>> No.14930027

>>14927888
Hey Jamie, pull up that early life section on Wikipedia

>> No.14930038

>>14930011
Apu, it's the mental cases that shill her fuck-awful fiction and idiotic pseudo-philosophy her all the time. Your trolling for "sick burns" would go unnoticed if we had moderation that cared (and no anonymous cult)
This twit was banned for a time in the golden age of /lit/

>> No.14930081

>>14927888
>if you love your countrymen you want the state to use violence on their behalf

Who is this clown?

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>>14930081
A Buckley fan, it would seem.

>> No.14930262

>>14930013
I have a facsimile of the Kelmscott Chaucer and it's pretty based

>> No.14930273

Didn't read.
Don't know if Rand is that bad as you ask, but I do know Twitter is garbage.

>> No.14930275

>>14927888
Coronachan straight up threw libertarian thought in the garbage, making it obvious how much we need one another instead of the other way around.

>> No.14930314

Rand is a shit writer.
With that being said, Atlas Shrugged is fiction becoming reality as we speak.

>> No.14930417

What's happening now is strengthening libertarian, objectivist, and classical egalitarian thought. This is why the parasitic cancer is now more vocal than ever.

Individual self worth will drive what will be left of society. There is nothing magical about science and industry like the pseudo intellectuals make out to be. It's hard working, self respecting individualists that have made it possible. This is why the negative worth parasites and zero worth pseudo intellects are so buttblasted and demanding a gorillion gibs everyday while sitting comfortably on the labor of those that have made modern society possible.

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>>14927888

>>14929113
statism is good for cattle. You can see today where it's leading the collective to

>> No.14930470

>>14929576
Having worked in factories and warehouses it always makes me laugh when the middle class jerks itself off to fantasies of saving the working class.

>> No.14930489

>>14930470
Having worked all my life, I shake my head at absolute dimwits like you that insist things have to stay the way they where.
Could you please read this book. I know you don’t want to read Kapital, I don’t. This might clear things up for you. Never mind viability, this is the intent of the movement spelled out.

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>>14927895

>> No.14930562

>>14927888
i think you can read a lot into ayn rand's philosophy by the people who are attracted to her work which are almost universally people who are spiritually reddittors

>> No.14930924

>>14930562
lol, reddit is literally neoliberal spineless bugmen
so Rand really upsets them

>> No.14930987

>>14927895
Based

>> No.14931037

>>14927888
Would people contesting them always fixate on their feelings if they were easily refutable?

>> No.14931828

>>14930924
mmm that's not what i meant tho you silly itty bitty peepee boy