/lit/ - Literature

What was the name of a book that started with a man coming down from the mountains to have found a virus killed everyone. He starts a little colony because they have water from a reservoir, eventually a guy comes to town and gives everyone a sickness so they vote to kill him, then they eventually lose language and revert to a tribal society before the protagonist dies the tribe elder on a burning bridge?

I thought we moved past an epidemic to a pandemic?

If you're one of the writerfags in these threads, you have absolutely NO excuse to not be working on your story right now.

>>14923714
But now I finally have time to get around to watching all those shows I've downloaded and never started.

Writing can wait until after I finish 'Hell on Wheels.'

Blood Music - for that "grippe"-ing story about a contagious disease.

>>14923714
What if I'm taking a dump rn and reading this thread on my phone?

>>14923652
man just look up the summaries of post-apocalyptic books from (I'm guessing) 1940-1980

>>14923615
I am working on a setting where the gods are all associated with various crystals, mainly kinds of quartz. The nature/fertility/love goddess getting Rose Quartz is obvious, but what about the other major deities, what kinds of quartz would mesh well with the other major divine archetypes, like a god of war or a god of the underworld, a sun and/or moon god, etc.? I can't think of any good types of quartz/crystal to associate with them. I was thinking that there'd be a total of five major gods, along with perhaps a few minor deities and a trickster/devil figure outside the main pantheon.

I was thinking of having the trickster be associated with obsidian, to reference his nature as an outsider, or maybe smokey quartz, what do you think? What would some good domains for him be besides "evil" or the underworld/death?

Also, I was thinking that maybe the nature goddess could have another domain, what would be a good match, war, stewardship over the dead not being punished for sinful lives, or something else?

>>14924430
>I am working on a setting where the gods are all associated with various crystals, mainly kinds of quartz
I think there's a cartoon with this premise

>>14924430
peridot, goddess of meme gremlins and lapis, goddess of ungrateful, unapologetic cunts

>>14923652
Earth Abides

>>14924615
Thank you

>>14923714
I have an excuse. This entire situation is leaving me with constant depression and anxiety
so I can't find the strength to keep going

What is the best site to post your writing to? Also milfs.

>>14924953
>https://www.literotica.com

>>14924953
imagine being quarantined with Jessica
>>14924977
this only works if your characters are 18+ if you write /ss/ or something similar you have to post them on archiveofourown or adult-fanfiction

>>14924953
wattpad
royalroad

>>14923714
What if I have Corona-chan in my lungs?

>>14925078
If you're able to post on the chanz, you're able to write. NO excuse.

Thanks to the guy who recommended Baudolino to me. Shit was fucking great, and got into reading Foucault's Pendulum. Reminded me a lot of Illuminatus!

This book is fantastic, honestly enjoying it more than I did Shadow of the Torturer.

>>14925113
I'm about 2/3's through Soldier of Arete, god damn is Io thirsty for Latro.

>>14924443
If it's Steven Universe, please come back when you have a decent idea.

>>14925338
Houseki no Kuni? Although that's more like division of souls.

So no William D Arand for April?
At least a bunch of books are being released in April.
I wonder when the next coiling dragon is.

Fuck wandering inn and the simps who are supporting a second audiobook.

When a book says "merchant's blood", does that mean they are jews?

>>14925713
He just put out a book this week. So he’ll probably miss April.
>>14925755
It means they are greedy. So yes.

>>14923615
>Epidemic edition
>tfw corona chan will take E William Brown, GURM, and a bunch of other older authors before they can finish their series
At least Gene Wolfe didn't have to drown to death on land.

>>14925809
>He just put out a book this week
No. That was the 7th. He usually publishes a new book on the 7th of every new month.

>>14925367
Division of souls?

Anyway, what do you think of the god thing?

This is for the anon that wanted to fuck mermaids a few months ago.
https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Deep-Mermaid-Underwater-Harem-ebook/dp/B07ZJL3593

>>14925933
Well in Western occultism, lots of various gods are associated with minerals so it's not really a very novel idea. Are you trying to go the Sanderson's approach to it or something?

>>14923714
If you write a book now what are the chances itll even get published?

All the established writers will be fighting among themselves and the publishers will probably only hang on to Brandon Sanderson

>>14925994
>publishing houses are the only way to publish a book

>>14926043
>self publishing is the best track for all authors

>>14925994
>>14926043
>>14926099

>>14925747
Yea wandering inn is pretty shitty
Buncha gobbo sympathizers

>>14925994
Publish for free on one of various sites like royalroad
Then you get feedback and you are taught how fast you need to write to actually get people reading

is it worth continuing with the mistborn series? i just finished the final empire, and while the lore is interesting enough, the writing is high school student tier. does it get better?

>>14925975
>Well in Western occultism, lots of various gods are associated with minerals so it's not really a very novel idea. Are you trying to go the Sanderson's approach to it or something?
Any sauces on those associations? You mean like atium in Mistborn, etc.?

>>14926330
Why can't we get videos of celebrities taking dick?

>>14926437
there are porn sites dedicated to making deepfake porn of celebrities.
that shit nowadays is so convincing that courts all over the world are starting to question video evidence for crimes in courts.

>>14926451
I want amateur shit. Porn studios videos are shit how they are so fake. Those websites just take a porn studio video with an actress that matches the celebrity, and deepfakes them. I want real candid shots from people having sex, and not fake moans from pornstars.

>>14926522
admirable. there are some of that sort. but not many.

Do you listen to music while you write? I usually listen to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNkZsRW7h2c

>>14926150
I'd rather have the publisher pay me an advance and let them do the marketing and have an agent sort out foreign and movie rights

Draw your dream sci fi

>>14926970

Did he publish anything noteworthy besides the Ender´s saga?

>>14927117
Hart's Hope is good

>>14927024
Space nazi hating ayyliums falling in love with a female ayy when?

>>14925815
Maybe Gurm will finish his penultimate book now that he's isolated and has nothing better to do than to write.

unpopular opinion, but the only good lgbt characters are the ones you can completely believe are lgbt before you're shown or told

good examples:
>Ender Wiggin
>Sveta Kyrelia

bad examples
>almost every lgbt sff character written in the past decade

>>14927389
The only good fag is a dead fag, though they make pretty good villains.

>>14926970

>>14927389
I agree. However many authors fail to realize to write interesting characters that happen to be gay is the way to go in that regard. Too often they write characters that are gay, where being gay is the only real defining character trait they have.

>>14927471
that's not necessarily the problem in my opinion. My issue is lgbt characters who feel inauthentic. A character who's nothing but a collection of lgbt stereotypes can be fine. The real issue is characters who were only put in to be progressive. I put ender up there as a good example of a believable gay character, but in fact he's the opposite. he's not an authentic gay character, he's a forced straight character. He's literally exactly the same as the kid from Darling in the Franxx who cucked the fat kid: a self-insert by a closet-case homophobe who realized halfway through his sexuality leaked out, requiring a sudden zero-chemistry straight marriage just to say "no homo"

>>14924953
Literotica, archive of our own, pastebin for lewd. Also, Irulan is best girl, Paul a faggot and Dune sucks.

>>14927658
I feel you Pham

What's some good romance stuff? I'm trying to branch out and read different things.

No YA teen romance please. I've already read the Vorkosigan series and Chalion, and Vatta's War but that was more a subplot.

>>14926330
>is it worth continuing with the mistborn series?
no

>the lore is interesting enough
read Tolkien nigga

>>14927389
Ender?

>>14927885
The Night Circus

>>14927885
kushiel's dart
this is how you lose the time war (was reviewed in prev thread)

We are at page 8 and all you fags are isolated?

do you think Kvothe is depressed in the interludes because of Chthae and knows his destiny is sealed?

>page 5
Well it seems after 5 plus years of sffg, it's corona extra that kills us.
Goodbye. This is my last bump. Was fun.

>>14928879
I assume most people are either too anxiety ridden about this whole thing or doing other things. I'm taking this time to finish watching movies, reading books and playing all the games in my backlog.

>>14928879
I think people might be reading instead of shitposting during small spaces of time when they got nothing better to do. This is the time to actually read all those books that get talked about and recommended.

Or maybe they're busy fucking.

This thread is as fast as usual, the reason why it seems slow is because other threads have gotten much more activity on this board due to everyone staying home.

reading lotr for the first time

>>14928897
>Or maybe they're busy fucking
>tfw 35 year old kissless virgin
>tfw going to be a 40 year old virgin soon
I hope those breeders know that having sex with a condom isn't going to stop corona chan.

>>14928942
>the reason why it seems slow is because other threads have gotten much more activity on this board due to everyone staying home.
No. The reason is that pol, philosofags, and Christ cucks are shitting up the board, even before the self isolation shit.

>>14929040
I would kiss you, anon. Like really hard right on the lips and not let go until your tongue met mine. But I'm locked up due to corona and you're probably miles away anyway.

t. Femanon

>>14927523
Basically you want right-wing or conservative lgbt characters so you can self-insert.

>>14929059
>tfw no autistic gf

>and you're probably miles away anyway.
Try a continent

>>14929047
Oh shut the fuck up already you mentally ill lunatic. Every fucking thread you cry about /pol/ when there's been basically zero /pol/ posts in the past few threads.

>25% of the way through a long book
>it still hasn't reached the events that get the plot going
epic fantasy pacing is a crime

>>14929089
>sffg is the entirety of lit
>stop crying about pol so people will be less vigilant
>stfu because of people like you people see through my pol posting
They don't post in here anymore because we have a new janitor. Check the catalog cunt face. It's filled with pol, philosofags and Christ cucks. The only reason your 88 infographs loving ass would be mad is that you're mad that you got banned and can't spread your propaganda.
Fucking kys.

>>14929059
>>14929071
thats a trannie or bluepilled cunt

>>14929117
>They don't post in here anymore because we have a new janitor
I post plenty in here, I just don't break any rules like a retard so I don't get banned. It's pretty fun to see you sperg out every thread about "pol".

>>14929117
Typical leftists absolutely hate the idea of a place where right-wingers aren't moderated and hidden away

You should go back to whence you came

can anyone tell me that the night circus is shit so i have an excuse to drop the last 40 pages?

>>14929180
>night circus
>Erin Morgenstern
>female "writer"
>nu female "writer"
you had it coming so keep on reading

>>14929197
I barely read one book a month so i just searched "best fantasy books" and went by what read interesting.

>>14929197
Don't want to come off as an incel or whatever the buzzword is these days, but I avoid female authors exactly because of this. Their works are so poorly written it baffles me when I constantly see them recommended. I remember pic related was getting shilled hard throughout various circles and after I put it down in disgust I tried to find why exactly some people loved it so much. To nobody's surprise it was because it was written by a female author and had a bunch of "progressive" shit in it. Nobody ever actually praised the characters or the plot. It's all so tiresome.

>>14928897
i'm quarantined with my mom, i'm not going to have sex any time soon

>>14929358
Clive Barker's Imajica is pretty good Feminist Lit, but it's written by a man, so does it even count?

I agree that The Priory of the Orange Tree is garbage though.

>>14929197
>>14929358
Are there any genuinely decent female writers out there? I'm not completely opposed to the fundamental idea of female writers, but holy hell so much of the shit written by female writers seems to rely entirely on brownie points instead of well written plots and characters.

"It's all so tiresome." is a reliable /pol/ detection phrase.

>>14929812
quiet faggot.

>>14929812
Rent free

>>14929828
Yes, that's an even more reliable indicator.

>>14929812
>>14929839
>I can't possibly fathom the idea that people just think differently than me: The Post

>>14929844
Now you've switched to just wanting replies at all costs, so I'll stop now.

>>14929803
>Are there any genuinely decent female writers out there?
She isn't /sffg/ but I like Ann Rule. She is a pretty good True Crime writer.

>>14929856
Please do, or else I'll have to call my new friends on you

Alright bros the pol retards showed up, thread will stay on page 1.

We've always been here you bigot

Back to sci-fi

Hyperion Cantos, thoughts?

>>14929956
Stop at Hyperion

reading mother of learning right now, just read chapter 5, shits getting good for real now
should be up on that self published list tbqh

>>14930130
>106 chapters + Epilogue

what the fuck.

>>14929956
I literally just finished the final book less than an hour ago. It's pretty good. The first book is about the pilgrims and the shrike pilgrimmage, the sequel almost has them as background, and the last two only use them and the pilgrimmage referrentially.

But if you have an interest in a journey spanning multiple planets over the course of a decade, and aspects of romance and "love is the force in the universe that binds us all", read Endymion and The Rise of Endymion.

Shrike vs Paul Atreides

>>14930157
>Endymion and The Rise of Endymion
ew

>>14929153
But I came from /b/ in 2006. Should I go back?

>>14929956
I never finished Hyperion because I felt like there was too much talking about boring shit like how they drink juice in space.

>>14926361
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemical_symbol#Seven_planetary_metals
You can read up on how they represent each plantet/god. Iron for example, represents Mars/Ares. Gold for Sol/Helios, etc

Are there any military sci-fi mecha or at least sci with lots of space battles? Bonus points if it's humans vs humans like gundam. I'm not interested in 40k.

>>14929594
>not going for momcest

>>14929117
Sounds like the board got pretty based.

>>14930354
Any books for momcest?

>>14929153
>leftists absolutely hate the idea of a place where right-wingers aren't moderated and hidden away
>20XX
>trying to dehydrate my sunday roast cube while I listen to an old recording of arts and crafts livestreams before they were banned
>the brain-brain-in-a-jar controlled robot with Ben Shapiro's face breaks down my door demanding I stop censoring him

>>14930463
>Ben Shapiro
lol, have you heard of Jared Taylor?

I can't think of a reason to stay awake when this is the state of the world

>>14930463
Ben Shapiro is a far-leftist jewish supremacist.

>>14930524
So is every /pol/ crossboarder weather they know it or not.

>>14930444
this

>>14930555
>weather

>>14930580

>>14930586
>every '/pol/ crossboarder' whatever that means is actually a far-leftist jewish supremacist 'weather' they know it or not is an argument

>>14930602
Why do ESLs com to /lit/?

>>14930607
>com

Books with volcanoes

>>14930610
>falling for it
Summer in march is rough.

>>14930354
She's all hot and sweaty.

>>14930616
>march

Finished the second book of the BotNS series. It's still pretty boring but it's starting to feel pretty comfy to follow his travel I guess.

Not just momcest but straight up actual incest.

Like what's with Heinlein finding the most convoluted way to include incest?

>>14929803
Robbin Hobb's Asassin series is okay

>>14929803
Ursula K. Le Guin
Connie Willis

>>14930671
just go to literotica etc for that
because he was still trying to be a mainstream sf writer

>>14930696
He said decent, anon.

>>14930723
They're plenty decent for genreshit.

>>14929803
Leig Brackett
Tanith Lee
Joanna Russ
Jane Gaskell
Lois McMaster Bujold
>>14930671
Heinlein was the original coomer writer, most of his books had some kind of fetish.

>>14929803
Nancy Kress Beggars in Spain

>>14926150
>Orconomics
OK... not gonna lie, I actually kinda want to read that.

>Check out these covers in the bookstore
>Cheapest fucking shit I've ever seen, so low quality that every single copy was wavy straight out of the factory
Dune deserves better than this

>>14929803
Ann Leckie

>>14929956
One of the best sci-fi books of all time. Innovative ideas and truly moving moments.

>>14926150
>nothing that scratches the unsouled itch
I don't know why that shitty Xianxia attempt took me with such force. Its probably the only fantasy series I really enjoyed in a long time.

>>14931432
Can you elaborate why?

recommend me sci-fi where people can't touch each other, talk directly with each other, etc. if there's any

>>14931463
naked sun (i think) by Asimov

words aren't coming to me in these trying times. I've got a fight scene to write and I don't have the energy to write it.

sffg, I'm not sure what to do

>>14931463
I am legend
>no people

>>14931448
I usually go back to Fantasy/SF when I want a lighter read to distract myself and "turn my brain off" more or less.
Good prose and carefully crafted narratives are usually a great thing but sometimes wear me down when its all shoved on me.
Also multiple PoV often annoy me to no end when they vary too much in how engaging they are to me.
Unsouled just caught me in the right moment and has that easy going style that just goes in.

>>14931491
Thanks. I'll give it a try.

>>14930671
momcest is actual incest you fucking retard

>>14931682
>not just

Should I even bother to keep writing /sffg/? I know for a fact my story is mindless entertainment that doesn't even accomplish what it sets out to do all that well. It's not like I'm making AtLA or some shit

>>14931899
Then don't worry about it being good and just write it to finish it

>>14929803
I've been reading through a bunch of Martha Wells books. Really surprised that I had not noticed her work before.

>>14932025
Is that pic OC by you?

>>14932025
Murderbot is great.

>>14932025
>>/lit/thread/S14702882#p14713464

Oh, I thought I wrote a lot more about it than that. I guess not.

>>14931923
why bother? The world is ending, I have no energy to keep trying and I'm not even interested in this story anymore. I've had maybe two days of pure passion since last august and my life has only gotten more depressing

>>14932416
the world is not fucking ending but sure keep posting excuses

>>14930614
The Other Side of the Mountain, Michel Bernanos

>>14930130
is it worth reading? i remember dropping it really early for some reason idr

>>14932416
Professional writers can do it without the slightest bit of passion or interest.

>>14932199
nah, some random crap on tumblr that got my attention a couple of weeks ago. kinda happy i found it. new book coming out soon!

>>14932606
I'm trying to force it but the fight scene isn't coming easily. They need energy, and more than that they need to be dynamic My brain isn't generating choreography

>>14932747
Draw it out step by step

>>14923615
Can you guys give me a rundown of Frank Herbert non-Dune books, I didn't realize until now that he wrote a good amount of other novels and short stories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Herbert_bibliography

I don’t really understand why the author of The Devils Cage decided to literally devote a quarter of every chapter to food talk

>>14929803
retard

>>14929803
CS Friedman

>>14932972

Hellstorm's Hive is awesome the mad scientist character wants to see if humanity can live in the same way as bugs do and creates his own compound/cult full of humans with bug like tendencies.

>>14931254
They look terrible too.

>>14931899
You write for others to read, pls blast your big creative load into my mind senpai.

>>14932972
They aren't as good as Dune, which is the best thing he wrote.

Hellstrom's Hive is probably worth checking out, some weirdo tries to see if he can make a literal human bughive.

The ConSentiency books are kind of disappointing and Herbert completely dropped them after Dune became a hit.

>>14930774
>Lois McMaster Bujold
discovered Bujold late last year, and holy hell she shits all over most other writers in terms of plot and pacing, male or female. It's not /lit/, but it's damned good reading once you get past the first book, which is merely pretty good.

>>14931427
I dunno, i enjoyed it, but i remember thinking it was nothing special, and that all the individual ideas were derivative of other, more original works. The mash-up was interesting, but like superhero crossover movies it gets boring fast. The AI in particular were like a washed out version of what Gibson had done a decade previous, and where he was laconic Simmons is long-winded and pointless to the point he's posturing without having any idea what about. That's the first two books, anyway. The third and fourth disintegrated into a weird...
>aspects of romance and "love is the force in the universe that binds us all",
As anon puts it, though his brain seems to have dribbled out his ears some time ago. See >>14930186
Nothing about the third and fourth books make sense, and it's just drivel.

It's certainly Simmon's best work, but that's hardly saying much.

>>14933277
I tried tonight anon. I really did. Right now the words are jammed up, and I don't have the strength in me to keep writing even though I have nothing better to do.

I hate being a fake writer. I'm just not strong enough to be a real one

>>14931748
not him but:
>actual
Do the comprehension, if you can.

>>14933364
>just

>>14931899
AtLA is Avatar the last airbender? You mean you're not trying to write anything complicated and you're still having trouble with it?

I feel you, writing is hard. I'm not having much luck or finding much inspiration these days - or i wasn't, until i found a friend of a friend who's a writefag as well and they offered to do some edits for me. I'm in a small town, and the advertised writers groups were all middle-aged women, often migrants. I'm not dissing that, but sci-fi isn't their wheelhouse. Finding a few people near you who write SFF can help, because while a lot of /lit/ means well, there's the remainder to contend with. Online communities don't do it for me in this case. Just remember that you have to return favours, and that criticism stings.

>>14933384
You're repeating yourself. Go back and read.

>>14933384
>>14933408
Here we go, don't bother wearing out those clever fingers - you clearly need them to think with.

in·cest (ĭnsĕst)
n.
1. Sexual relations between persons who are so closely related that their marriage is illegal or forbidden by custom.
2. The crime of sexual relations with a person defined by statute as too closely related.

So, if we may assume that momcest is the act of having sex with one's own mother, it is a type of incest. This makes it a subset of incest, yes?

You said:
>Not just momcest but straight up actual incest.

Implying there is momcest which is not:
>straight up actual incest.

I am curious now as to which part of the set that comprises momcest exists outside the set that defines incest. I would have thought momcest was entirely within it.

>>14933403
to be fair, AtLA's not complicated plot-wise but it's a masterpiece when it comes to character development and fight scenes. I'm too autistic to really do the former well. The latter I used to be able to do, but like everything else in writing I've only gotten worse at it over time and no, that's not my standards going up. I've read my old work and it's better than the shit I'm vomiting out now. My current stuff is honestly repulsive both in terms of quality and in how it reflects my own failures


You might be right about the friends, but I wouldn't know. I actually formed a small writing group with my friends, but they haven't wanted to do the writing group since the coronavirus hit, even virtually, and I'm thinking I might just give that up. DESU, I'm not sure they ever wanted to do it in the first place

>>14933447
tl;dr

I heard there are some prudes in this thread right now...
Time to beat the bushes

>>14933636
cool stuff. any books that feature multiple instances of lolis wetting themselves?

>>14932572
i would say yeah
just read the first 10 chapters and ditch it if its not for you, it gets good at around ch. 5 afaik

>>14927885
Suldrun's Garden

>>14933497
wow, on /lit/

You must be the apple of your mother's eye.

>>14934090
Wow you use outdated cliches on /lit/

why is everyone arguing?

>>14934615
Where do you think you are?
The entire site was founded on arguing.

Fuck E William Brown.
That hack is just cruising off patreon money and not publishing his books.

>>14934648
sffg is my safe space, a nest if you will

>>14934775
What are you laying?

>>14934775
If I will what?

>>14934779
pipe
>>14934781
do you really think you can will things into existance?

>>14934786
>do you really think you can will things into existence?
It depends really.
Do I think that 'I', one man, could will something into existence? No, I am only one man, and I have no power within the universe to control such magic.
Do I think that people, in general, could will something into existence? Sure, with enough Tibetan magic, a large group of people could 'will' a Tulpa into existence.

>>14934800
show me an example of a tulpa being manifested

>>14934090
People like you are a diamond dozen

>>14934800
>>14934814
thought so only god can will things into being thats why he created corona-chan

>>14934814
The problem with Tulpa's now is that they are near impossible to form due to the overall world population, and the connectivity of the world.
Back when there were say 500 million people in the world, we were spread thin all over the place, so a group of people could get together and will something into existence, basically by accident. A lot of people seem to consider the miracles of Jesus as a Tulpa, an example being him conjuring enough food to feed the 5000. A gathering of 5000 back then would've been a large enough gathering to just will something into existence without even knowing you had done anything.
Today though, it would require a mass effort from basically everyone in the world to come together and will something into existence, which will never happen. I do like to think that remote tribes that still live in the Amazon have enough power to conjure a Tulpa though.

>>14934873
god created corona-chan to punish us and now the devil will control the earth

sanderson is a hack

>>14930614
Princeps has the character doing disaster relief/rebuilding the state after a volcano which was pretty interesting to read but then it quickly shifts to the war that takes up the rest of the series :/

>>14933067
>

>reading book called A Queen in Exile
>clearly title is referring to the mother character, the current queen who is the main pov character
>blurb/press release focuses entirely on the daughter and spoils the entire fucking plot of the book to do so
Truly weird this, like I get that the daughter is the protagonist of the overall series but she's a minor character here mainly because she's too young to do anything, in one "part" of the book she only has a tiny section just to remind the reader she's there.
It's especially odd because the books have a bit of a marketing push and a weird release gimmick (whole quartet out in 4 months, 1 book released a month) so you'd think they'd bother to sell their product properly.
Also all the comparisons they used to plug it are off too, it's about political intrigue and war and the blurb compares it to fucking Uprooted lol.

>>14933067
You sure that creature wasn't the true Frankenstein's monster? Just look at it.

When are we getting the next demons of astlan book?

>>14936229
IT WILL BE DONE WHEN IT'S DONE

>>14923615
Hey, in a lot of fantasy settings, vampirism, lycanthropy, and similar states of beings are depicted as basically viral curses. If that's the case in your setting, did you have a historical "patient zero", the first person to "contract" the curse and start infecting others with it, or did the condition arise separately on multiple occasions, which could accounts for different independent variations/"strains", like with Prometheans? Is there any way to "vaccinate" someone against the curses, or even cure them? What about having both curses at once?

On a similar note, if vampirism is infectious in your setting, what keeps vampire numbers from growing exponentially? I've always liked the idea that you have to be fed vampire blood instead of just needing to be bitten, or something similar. Also, are vampires "alive" enough to have children normally?

>quarantined alone in an apartment the size of most people's garages
>friends don't want to hang out with me because they're busy with their families

any day now /sffg/. any fucking day

>>14935453
thanks fren, started reading it

>>14936807
Sounds like a great opportunity to work on your backlog. Malazan isn’t gonna read itself.

>>14936368
> Also, are vampires "alive" enough to have children normally?
Never do this. Only villains do this

>>14936807
>any day now /sffg/. any fucking day
An hero?

>>14936901
The white one looks like a real chubbers. Skin him, marinate him in some of this special seasoning I got here, and throw him on the barbie.

>>14937490
don't mind if I do

Fantasy with "eat the rich" themes?

>>14929803
Read the Doomsday Book by Connie Willis.

>tfw my friends won't even text me back anymore

Should I read Hitchhikers Guide or is it a children's book?

>>14937888
Depends on the owner I'd say

>>14937888
it's not a kids book but it's very bbc radio in it's humour, bit like pratchett but with way more throwaway gags rather than long term characters

>>14937888
I didn't care for it.

>>14937823
are they dead?

fuck /sffg/. I had a flu a few weeks ago, and then I caught a cold right at the start of the panic. Both of those went away, but I had a residual cough for a little while

now the cough is getting worse again, and it's a dry cough, not a wet one

>>14938273
Keep away from people.

>>14937888
All fiction is for children of varying sorts.

>>14937771
My favorite from her is A Letter from the Clearys. I really enjoyed her anthology overall though.

>>14937888
>is it a children's book?
No, but it's reddit incarnate

What are deep, complex fantasy books? Stuff like Book of the New Sun and Second Apocalypse?

What are deep, complex fantasy books? Stuff like Book of the New Sun and Second Apocalypse?

>>14938342
>in the fiction general while saying this
>have to be 18+ to use 4chins
Are you calling us man children?

>>14937508
Pls don't.

>>14938342
This is the weakest bait I've seen in a while.

>>14925113
It's one of my favorites

>>14937508
I don't know why but any time I read a scene in a book where an errant farmboy cooks a rabbit golden brown over a fire i get hungry. Unless I just ate a bad one, they seem blander than chicken is and that was WITH seasoning. Farm boys don't have that advantage.

Unrelated, but I'm reading Dungeon Meshi right now and I'm realizing I've cribbed ideas from this without realizing it. The creator is getting a lot more creative about the edible creatures than I did, but I think I've got him beat on ingenuity. I'm ashamed to say I want to steal the treasure bugs and slime pudding for my own story, but the part with the giant bats did not age well

>>14938273
rip anon. can i have your xbox when you died.

>>14924655
Everything will be fine.

>>14923615
What are some interesting domain combinations for gods that you wished you saw more often, and why? Love goddess who is also a war god? Fertility/nature goddess who rules over the underworld? A sun god who's also the moon god?

>>14938273
EMT here. Minimal cases of covid are fatal for people under like 50. You'll probably feel like dogshit, but hole up, don't expose others, and prepare for a while off. 14 days quarantine is what my area is currently recommending for ILI positive screens, but there is some talk of reducing it to 10.

>>14939501
Not really a combination god, but it seems like even in history gods of time were pretty much non-existent outside of a couple Greek ones, just about every culture had a sun god or something like that but time just didn't cross anyone's mind.
Seems like there's a lot of interesting things you could do with that concept.

>>14937823
Join the discord, make new friends.

>>14938948
Is ASOIAF not a deep, complex book?

>>14939628
>Join the discord, make new friends.
No
>Is ASOIAF not a deep, complex book?
No

>>14939628
>Discordfag is also an ASOIAF shill
Like poetry

>>14939656
Pics of Wendy getting her shake frothed?

>>14939628
GURM isn't that deep or complex. I say this as someone who enjoyed books 1-3 and get why they're popular. His characters are well rounded which is a cut above usual in sff but that doesn't make them deep. He has a lot of characters but that in itself isn't complexity because it basically boils down to which side of the warring factions they're on or if they're simply acting selfishly.

where do you guys get your audiobooks?

>>14940240
From inside my brain as I'm reading the source text.

Hey guys I'm kind of new to the SFFG. I'm really picky with what I read and I don't read much SFF any more. One of my favourite authors of all time is Philip K. Dick; but I haven't read a PKD book in a few years. I've read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?; UBIK; A Scanner Darkly; The Man in the High Castle; The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch; Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said; Dr. Bloodmoney; We Can Build You; Minority Report. I couldn't get into Martian Time-slip, VALIS, Galactic Pot-healer (although I like the premise and would like to read the whole thing sometime soon), The Simulacra. I especially enjoyed A Scanner Darkly; The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch; Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said; Dr. Bloodmoney; and We Can Build You.
I really want to get deep back into SFF. I want to get kind of into a geeky mood for this kind of stuff to alleivate stress, but I'm picky so I haven't read all the classics in SFF, (I've read The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings of course), so I just started The Culture series by Iain M. Banks since I thought the premise sounded interesting. I'm going to be doing a lot of reading in the forseeable future. After I'm done the Culture series I'll probably read The Prydain Chronicles and Inheritance Cycle. Can anybody suggest anything really, really good? I'm not really into The Book of the New Sun.

>>14940240
audiobooksbay silly newfaggot

>>14940240
I listen to Audible Audiobooks while I play RAID: Shadow Legends!

whats everyones thoughts on raymond e. feist?

What other books series has the best lore beside LOTR?


Does /sffg/ like the lore of the elder scrolls games?

>>14941220
Non reading fags who think Tolkien is the bees knees is not welcomed.
Scram!

>>14941220
Lord of Light
Morrowind is the best one

March is coming to an end.
So many books I want are coming out in april.
People are going to say that there is a corona-chan cure on april 1st.

>page 7
Time to die. Don't bump this.

>>14941675
*farts*

>>14941278
legit worried about what happens to authors whose sales are fucked over by the virus that's if the whole industry doesn't just die out of this anyway lol

>>14929803
Claire North

>>14935852
lmao turned out the entire book was a prologue
the events they put on the fucking blurb happen in the final chapter lol

decent read though, just weird how it's an epic war/statesmanship fantasy and they went out of their way to not advertise it as such

>>14941711
based

>>14937556

Can i have your bitcorn?

>>14939501

Love/war goddess is ishtar/inanna aka whore of babylon, depicted as the star of venus on islamic flags.

>>14941990
Many female "jews" worship her for some reason.

>>14931487
Re-read some fight scenes you enjoyed and get inspired.

>>14940660
he's entry level but pretty entertaining, like Dragonlance or Salvatore.

>Achamian keeps getting cucked
not like this..

>>14940323

>>14925713
>the next coiling dragon

>Peace Talks drops in july
>the book after drops in september

jesus christ, is this why butcher kept us waiting so long? is been nearly a decade since the last book

>>14942603
There's only 3 good books on here

>>14941254
who is the best then, asshole? I hope you get the virus and choke on your own vomit.

>>14942603
Cringe

>>14942819
brandon sanderson

>>14942819
NK Jemisin

>>14942819
S.J. Maas

>>14926437
Deepfake + Voice synth will have 100% convincing celeb porn available within a couple of years. I saw a Gal Gadot deepfake video recently that was nearly perfect visually. It was only a few moments where the face glitched and the original voice of the girl in the video that threw it off.

>>14927117
It's honestly shocking how low he fell. Empire is a delusional rightist fantasy with like Clive Cussler tier writing.

>>14928006
Seconding this. Night Circus feels borderline YA, but it has social realism you don't find in YA.

>>14942891
This

>>14941220
What is lore

>>14942634
The first audiobook is out. Waiting on book 2.
Big Bro, Ruffy. Please don't force grils on me, after that skank cucked me and I embarrassed her entire family, I don't want grils again.

>>14941220
>Does /sffg/ like the lore of the elder scrolls games?
Yeah, it's pretty neat even if half of it reads like a drug fueled fever dream (which it pretty much was if the rumors are true)

>>14942696
>is this why butcher kept us waiting so long? is been nearly a decade since the last book
When I joined lit a decade or so ago, Butcher used to drop 2 Dresdens a year. I guess he is starting back that work ethic.

>>14942928
>Gal Gadot
>hungry skeleton
no thnx

>>14944022
>which it pretty much was if the rumors are true
supposedly the entire elder scrolls universe is a dream of some drunk ancient dwemer. when he wakes up, poof, its gone

>>14944020
Ohhhh interesting. Now that I think about it, both CD and Desolate Era, another work by the same author, have the MC meeting a skank before their true partner.

>>14944390
I just loved that thot suffering for breaking our boy's heart. And him making sure she got BTFO by a statue.
>sending assassins to kill the statue when the chief assassin is an art lover
Man I loved that book. He just needs to work on his prose.

Give me no less than three good SFFs released in the past twelve months. No oppressed alt people pls.

>>14944357
Only partially correct, the entire world is indeed a dream but the dreamer currently is the ancient-pre aedra/daedra god Anu, who achieved Amaranth (basically the end stage of CHIM) and became the new Godhead.
The Dwemer much later on basically wanted to become the godhead and create a new dream, and their method of doing this was building the Numidium, unfortunately for them the Numidium turned out to be an extremely autistic atheist god who would REEEEE at the universe so hard anytime it was turned on that it would literally break time and "no" something out of existence, thus erasing the Dwemer.

The rumors are the while Kirkbride was writing all this shit he locked himself in a hotel room for a week with a shitton of drug. The hotel part was actually true but the drugs are the rumor, some people say it was cocaine, others say it was just alcohol, no one really knows.

>>14942557
My poor boy Akka did nothing wrong.

What are some good books that satisfy a craving for delicious chocolate?

>>14945665
I'm not sure how I feel about that right leg...
does she have a Cloaca?

>>14946100
In the original myth it's supposed to be a goat hoof, so goat pussy I guess

>>14946203
>original myth
Is that calypso?
I would still fuck.... The rest of the body makes up for the leg.

>>14946419
La Diablesse
Basically a Caribbean witch who became a demon, in the original myth she's also supposed to be hideously ugly which she hides under a large brimmed hat but people leave out that part.

So I've just finished the first two books of the Nevernight trilogy by Jay Kristoff (or at least I assume it's a trilogy at this point, Senlin Ascends got me with the same trick). The first book was entertaining enough but it was still schlock, sure enough, but good lord, I have never had as many conflicting emotions about a book as I have about the second one, Godsgrave. There are so many things I took issue with and so many things I enjoyed.

First off, I found it absolutely unbe-fucking-lievable that Mia would end up falling for Ashlinn of all people when it's already been established that basically her only reason for existence is revenge. I haven't had my suspension of disbelief challenged so hard by a book ever since I tried to read Seveneves and Neal Stephenson, that hack, tried to make me believe that the entire population of planet earth would a. be okay with asteroid ragnarok and not go fucking bananas and b. that the Powers That Be would actually TELL the entire population of planet earth about it. Christ. There is zero fucking chance that Mia and Ashlinn would end up together and I firmly believe that Kristoff has a lesbian fetish and was writing with his dick when he thought that one up. Oh, and, as a side note, I get that it's a trendy political thing now, but come the fuck on, there would not be this many lesbians in Fantasy Rome.

Meanwhile Mia continues to be the Maryest Sue there ever was and not only get to have several cakes and eat them too by not only killing the dudes, getting the girl, and saving all her gladiator friends with some absolute bullshit that she should not have gotten away with. Furian should have died way earlier but no, Mia has to eat him instead so she can be dark and mysterious. Oh, and Magistra being the bad guy? At least hint at it, fuck. Now, that being said, despite everything going her way, I do actually like Mia as a character, and I am going to read the third novel, although I do get the sinking feeling it's going to end up being similar to the reboot of Carmen Sandiego, and I felt like Mia separating with the Red Church so early in this book after she'd worked so hard in the first one to get there is ridiculous. Oh, and good lord, whenever I read the word 'gentlefriends' I felt like I was going to lose it.

That being said, this series is a pageturner and I am eager to see what sort of ridiculous bullshit Kristoff comes up with in book three. A definite guilty pleasure read. Another pleasant surprise is that Kristoff is actually a decent writer, as in, the actual construction, prose, etc, is good. Might not be a great plotter as he seems to adhere to the typical mass-market strategy of 'think of the most bullshit idea you can and then top it sequentially for the rest of the book, and make sure you end on a cliffhanger' but if you don't hate that sort of thing it's easy to look past it. There's a reason that type of book sells, after all. All that being said, I would recommend this series.

>>14947438
On a somewhat more positive note, before I started in on Nevernight, I sat down and reread the Mammoth Book of Extreme Science Fiction, edited by Mike Ashley, and christ, I cannot recommend that book enough. I think there were maybe two stories there that I disliked? Some of the more abstract stuff is a little meh, particularly the second-to-last story, but the rest are really nice if you're into SF. Note that it says 'extreme' not 'hard' so don't go in expecting the one and not the other. Mammoth is also an apt description, there are a lot of stories in this anthology and it'll keep you occupied for quite a while. I grabbed it off of gen.lib so it's easy to access as well. Seriously, if you like SF short stories at all, I'd almost consider this mandatory reading.

>>14942603
Dying Earth looks really cool.

>>14929102
That's because the events that get the plot going occurred thousands of years before the book even starts!!

>>14947582
honestly I'd be okay with more fantasy going outright tristram shandy instead of just having 500 pages dedicated to a stableboy finally leaving a castle

>>14947621
Just you wait I'm gonna be a game changer. I'm gonna write an epic fantasy that has a plot that the main characters are actually involved with. I'm going to fix Tolkien's mistakes one page a time.

>>14947633
based

>>14929102
At some point, fantasy readers started buying by the pound

>>14947530
It is, but it's a comedy. I think the title evokes false reader expectations (except in a second-level sort of way)

>>14948028
90's was when the push for length came about, it's supposedly why bad authors who wrote long and fast like goodkind were able to flourish when they'd previously been ignored.

>>14948053
I blame WoT

>>14948346
The Witcher books are short and selling like hotcakes right now . Is this a new era anon?

I need help to find a book please. Starts of with a female wizard being washed ashore in a storm. 2 sets of brother and sister in village. 1 set the sister is adopted and is actually royal and a boat turns up for her after storm. She takes a savage type old dude with her. Other 3 and wizard leave village. One turns out to be a simple but very strong wizard, who meets a sprite. His sister gets possed by a weaving monster. Any ideas.

>>14948346
u read that series??

>>14948389
Yes, I think there's been a shift from doorstops to fast-cadence serialization. This brings its own pitfalls, but makes it easier to course correct and prune dead branches than putting out a doorstop every two years.

>>14948405
I read up to some point or other. The first few are pretty good. I think I quit before he died because they became unreadable. I've wanted to go back and finish but I can't make myself. Maybe if I get the virus and somebody else puts the audiobook on and I'm too weak to get out of bed and change it

>>14948412
You can more or less exactly tell when Jordan’s health started to really deteriorate just by reading the books.

>>14948412
>>14948477
i blame sanderson he isn't a competent writer

>>14948394
>His sister gets possed by a weaving monster
What?

>>14948394

>>14949541
>>14949541
>>14949541