/lit/ - Literature

No, it's slaving your soul.

t. employed software engineer.

>>14919280
It can be.

>>14919280
Of course not.

>>14919280
The \\ are usually worth a read if you have source code. Some of it pretty funny

>>14919288
How much wage slaving? What do you think of covid-19 and it's consequences on your field of work?

t. aspiring to be one

Yeah if you’re into ontology.

>>14919280
The most anti-art thing in the nature.

Go read hackernews you feckless roach.

No, but it’s better than wasting 4-5 years of your life pursuing specialized education in something equally demeaning and soulless or possibly harmful to being like accounting or economics

>>14919535
hehe, I've unironically been selected for an art showing in a museum with a software art project. AMA

>>14919280
At higher theoretical levels, yes. At codemonkey levels, no.

I've been programming weird Cellular Automata recently... The insights into the possible evolutionary dynamics of the universe are pretty fucking lit, I'd say

>>14919280
Depends on what your doing. Being a web dev or business apps is drone work. Lot of creativity in academic or industrial coding

>>14919280
i thought the coding life was comfy with lots of time for reading and writing and a nice check

>>14920389
Tell us more.

>>14920618
well, finding interesting CAs is all about tuning the rules so that the system doesn't saturate nor does it peter out. Very much like a "goldilocks zone" for a given kind of neighborhood.
But even if you find this zone, you're still not guaranteed to have interesting self-repeating patterns. Rules that spawn 'spaceships' or even oscillators (to use the game of life lingo) naturally are very rare and the patterns themselves are even rarer within any given simulation.

It's just really mind-boggling how these simple math games lead to such intricate phenomena.

pretty sure it’s /wsr/

>>14920363
What is software art?

>>14919535
Wait, why? Its logical. Why's logic anti art?

>>14919981
I want to switch from software engineering to economics, care to explain ?

>>14919288
This.

t. currently training a complex deep learning model for class project

>>14919331
Things like ontology, set-theory, functions, lambda calculus, etc should change someone's outlook on programming if they're not initiated yet. Unfortunately many people don't make it out of the OOP/Java state stage to be bewildered later on by concepts like closure, lexical scopes, and meta-programming. There's a good deal of nice ontological implications behind concepts unmentioned to a code-monkey education.

>>14919535
People who say this do not know what programming is

>>14919280
No. Math is /lit/, though.

>>14920833
In my case I was using physical simulations to produce imagery, and then curating and refining the simulation setups to produce... something which in my eyes was art

>>14919280
No

>>14920659
The rules aren't that simple, when you consider that they're recursion in high dimension. They only look simple because they have a fairly simple naming scheme, and because the CA implementation itself is memoized (which hides the high dimensionality). Indeed, lambda calculus itself is "simpler" (in that it has fewer implicit rules), but I don't think any sane person would call Haskell simple.

>>14921989
Never heard of CAs conceptualized as "recursion in high dimension". Do you have a referrences for that? sounds interesting.

>>14919280

>>14921412
Very little difference

>>14919280
Nothing science or math related (i.e. anything requiring actual thinking skills) is /lit/. That's because /lit/ can't actually think. The responses to this post and pic related are a proof of this fact.

>>14922879
It’s a trick question: the only bugs that have 150 IQ are Jews that have shapeshifted. Thus the Jew would surely shift back into its humanoid form and cast blood magic you, forcing you to walk over to him and directly feed him the food (your child’s foreskin).

>>14922912
Wrong. It's not a trick question and it's not B.

Lads, I know this might be a controversial statement on this board, but the most /lit/ thing you can do is... actually read books. I know it sounds crazy, but I promise you it works.

Being a code-monkey slave hunched in front of a computer all day is about the least /lit/ thing I can think off.

>>14921177
It’s just training to work at a corporation. That’s all it is. You study how corporations and international finance operates and then you work in some generic soulless analyst job where your responsibility is to analyze data to tell the corporation how to spend less money and make more profit from your cube. That’s all it is and it’s not really good for anything else. I wouldn’t recommend college and I especially wouldn’t recommend college to become a corporate slave both in work and education.

>>14919288
>it's slaving your soul.
What job isn't? Probably less than 5% of all jobs. And of those which are decently paid? Pretty much none. You'd need connections or extremely rare skills and luck.

>>14922879
I have a PhD in Physics from a Top 5 U.S. university. It's B.

>>14922964
Just goes to prove how physicists are a complete joke. It's not B.

>>14922942
Isn't it well paid though?

>>14920402
No. It's a high-pressure environment. The main problem is that the technology is so new that most people can not use it below the surface. And most people do not understand that coding is design so they expect you to multitask doing service for idiots who can't open a terminal over ssh if their life depended on it. Let alone using a terminal. But they sure exceed at buzzwords, wasting your time in Powerpoint presentations and ruining projects by adding senseless technologies and cutting deadlines.

>>14923008
>can we add blockchain to this feature?

>>14922879
what do i win?

>>14923014
Don't forget the cloud, we absolutely need to have the fucking cloud in this critical hard-real-time application controlling a 200kW welding Laser. Also, let's store the state of that state-machine in a fucking database, because that's really performant to do five million times a second. And let's add that weird new technology I've just heard about from that coked-up dude in the bar last night.

>>14923036
Correct. You're one of the <20% /lit/ users that are not dumber than a 10th grader. Now buy yourself a medal.

>>14922025
Just write out an algorithm to compute the value of a single cell at, say, fifth generation, solely as a function of the values of the first generation, without using recursion or memoization (caching/reuse of second, third, and fourth generation values). That is, "fully expand" the computation of the fifth generation cell, and you'll find that all the apparent simplicity comes from how much CS you're taking for granted.
Also, why the fuck are you asking for references? You're often much better trying to figure things out for yourself, particularly if you have academic aspirations. Because the first thing to learn about academic CS is that CS PhDs are trend-following yokels.

>>14923036
am I retarded for not getting this? If its at C, can't it just take the shorter path and end up going 1/4 units shorter? Is this relying on a wrong assumption of the shortest possible path to B?

>>14922879>>14922964>>14923036>>14924579
I can see it's not B, but I still don't see the 1/4 stuff

>>14921361
This.

>>14919280
IT's bugman-ish

>>14923036
>>14923043
How the fuck do you get AC to be longer than AB?

>>14925656
Try not being retarded.

>>14925656
>>14925033

>>14922879
But /sci/ looks down on code monkeys too.

>>14919280
no

>>14923036
Explain please

>>14919280
>coding

>>14925656

>>14919280
no, its more like writing a really long and complicated grocery list or instruction manual. there's no prose in pixels: only just rules.

>>14923036
That makes no fucking sense you’re saying the diagonal that extends from b through c to the front upper left vertice is composed of four line segments of length 1/4. That would make the diagonal length 1, even though it’s clearly also the hypotenuse of the right triangle with legs upper forward edge and upper right edge. By the Pythagorean theorem this would mean 1^2 + 1^2 = 1, or 2 = 1, which is clearly impossible.

>>14928471
You're right anon meant 1/4 * sqrt(2)

>>14928350

>>14928471
A charitable and reasonable interpretation would be 1/4 of the of the diagonal line. I.e. this >>14928477

>>14928496
oh shit, I didn't notice that, thanks, I'll fix it

>>14928496
>>14928526

>>14928444
It's trying to express a set of ideas, each as simply and stringently correctly as possible. If you're doing it right you also try make your ideas as readable as possible for other humans, or at least other programmers.
To me it feels more like architecture or building with Lego. You try to express all your ideas in such a way that they all fit neatly together, and ideally also in such a way that it's not horrible to add a new idea to your existing set of ideas.
The grocery list (or the more common food recipe) analogy doesn't really work for me past Programming 101.

>>14922879
> USSR
> mention of IQ outside of special literature
I have my doubts about that.

>>14928538
Cool. But for completeness sake you should also now show that:

1. There is no other distance |AC_2| < |AC_1|, in the same way as I missed that |AB_2| < |AB_1|.

2. There exists no other point X, possibly located on another facet, such that |AX| < |AC|.

>>14919280
Is working more fun than being a college student?

>>14928563
Obviously the description text was rewritten and adapted for a 4chan type of audience.

>>14928587
In my experience it's less stressful and you get paid. But there's also more requirements robustness, usability, covering all edge cases, testing, bug fixes, maintenance and long time support, which makes it more tedious.

>>14922951
there is a sense in which coding cuts especially deep. there is a reason why its such a meme

>>14928444
what is this picture trying to convey

>>14928671
A sense of attractiveness and pride in a presumably male viewer.
What the picture has to do with the attached post, I do not know.

>>14928549
You're trying to devise a set of processes in a tradeoff between efficiency and readability. Don't idolize this too much, or you'll turn into an unbearable faggot.

>>14929614
no u

>>14919280
I like coding because it makes me think of all the processes I do which are taken for granted- and assigning work requires very fine-tuned abstract expression.

I would say yes, it is lit.

>>14919280
Learning for its own sake is /lit/, but if you learn to code for money then you're a slave to Mammon.

>>14922942
>>14922979
>>14921177
I'm planning to go to seminary once I get my undergraduate, but later in life I intend to study economics because I love the systems involved. If you treat economics as a social science, rather than a natural science, it can be valuable. If you do it for the sake of making money, however, you need to do go beyond undergraduate study. It's only well paid if you're more competent than the misc college students immediately entering the workforce. You should instead focus on appreciating the aesthetics of economics.

>>14930060
Dumb faggot. You don't even know what you're talking about. Christ you're so stupid. Fucking kys.

>>14930120
>slave to glorified units of time
>thinks he knows anything
lol someone's angry about how they set their career ladder on the wrong wall and now knows they wasted their life

>>14930128
I'm not even a programmer nor am planning to be one.

>>14919288
>No,
And /thread
why is this troll post STILL up?