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What's your strangest belief?

>> No.14896956
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>>14896778
That I'll be happy

>> No.14897724

>>14896778
that one day, I find something deep and meaningful on this board. someday.

>> No.14897985

Moby-Dick offered us the reconfiguration we needed to usher in modernity. We just didn't (don't) understand.

>> No.14898024

>>14897985
please develop

>> No.14898031

>>14896778
that Jesus Christ is our lord and saviour

>> No.14898044

>>14896778
That keeping the vow you took when you married is worth being miserable for the rest of your life.

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>>14897985

>> No.14898048

Nature spirits are real and part of their own ecosystem

>> No.14898055

>>14898047
based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CQwPe0Xb44

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>>14896778
once you internalize (switch from an idea to a sensation) a concept it's because you created it in your field of perception, e.g. you create your own soul

>> No.14898067

>>14898061
Based and not strange at all (because it's true)

>> No.14898069
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>>14896778
There exist someone that will love me for who I am

>> No.14898077

>>14896778
humans are the only intelligent, civilized species in the galaxy and we are destined to colonize it in its entirety

>> No.14898088

>>14898077
I bet we go extinct before we're capable.

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>>14896778
I believe that death should be really painful. If I were to choose how I would die I would pick self immolation. A lot of people think this is a weird stance but dying is potentially the last thing you'll ever feel so it may as well be intense. A painful death also would serve as a sort of penance that might help to absolve your sins. If you buy into that kind of thing.

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>>14896778
All gods are real, but Jesus/YHWH is the strongest one. Every mythology is compatible with eachother.

>> No.14898251

>>14898224
the bible does not deny this

>> No.14898262

>>14898189
This is the most based thing I have read on this site in a very long time. I couldn't agree more. If I am denied a violent death at the hands of another, a painful suicide is a close second.

>>14898224
Also a good post, for different reasons.

>> No.14898270

probably free will, it seems to be a dying concept

>> No.14898271

>>14896778
I'm not even slightly scared of death, nor do I mourn anyone who dies, even people I love, takes me like a day to get over it. Not saying this to be edgy or tough or whatever, I just don't understand how something that happens to everyone can be the worst thing ever that everyone's so shit scared of. I'm much more worried about leading a cowardly, immoral or mediocre life.

>> No.14898274

>>14896778
I unironically believe in werewolves.

>> No.14898287

>>14898251
yeah, but many modern christians think that the pagan gods were imaginary or something even if God makes it clear in The Bible that other gods exist

>> No.14898291

>>14898271
Same but I do worry about my family so I kinda fear death

>> No.14898292

maybe the idea that the God of Abraham is the real Creator and Ruler of things
moreover the idea the Bible isn't 100% accurate and should not be taken at face value, not so much because of translation errors or straight up fiction but people putting their own spin on things, e.g. it doesn't make sense for God to have a gender, he's depicted like that because he was written by men

>> No.14898304

>>14896778
Panpsychism although I think >>14898048 is also an acceptable way to think about it.

>>14898044
absolutely chaste

>> No.14898307

>>14896778
I believe that a BDSM relationship is the highest form of spiritual connection you can have with another person.

>> No.14898310

>>14898292
er, should have had "but" instead of "moreover"

>> No.14898312

>>14898271
I went to Iraq three times back when that meant something and during that time I just accepted that when it's your time it's your time. I'm on the road to live out the rest of my days in a pretty boring/meaningless manner but that feeling has never left me. Makes female hysteria pretty hard to deal with desu.

>> No.14898313

>>14896778
Consciousness is the antithesis of entropy, every time the quantum wave function collapses it is translated into conscious information. To what end? I don't know...

>> No.14898318

>>14898224
I agree.. I think

>> No.14898323

>>14898077
My strangest belief is that humans, in general, are neither intelligent nor civilized.

>> No.14898338

>>14898292
Jesus calls him the Father.

>> No.14898356

>>14898189
This reminds me of the story of Mansur Al-Hallaj who had been skinned alive and crucified for saying “I am the truth” because he believed he had unified with the godhead. On the cross, his last words were “study yourselves.”

>> No.14898365

Many on this board might agree, but normies wouldn’t, that life post-modernity is worse than the Middle Ages.

>> No.14898377

>>14898365
You wouldn't last fifteen minutes in the middle ages

>> No.14898388

>>14898365
That's because you have so few problems that you don't have anything to focus your atention on.

>> No.14898403

>>14898307
based and dompilled
being needed and filling that need is a great thing, and it doesn't have to clash with acting normal at other times or having respect for each other
I'll tell you this though, I tried an "all the time" BDSM relationship and I don't think I would like it too much or recommend it to many people

>> No.14898418

>>14898338
Jesus was male too, and his apostles who wrote shit down

>> No.14898428
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That /lit/ is a literature board.
I know.

>> No.14898442

>>14898428
oh I cleared my history and now I see butterfly posts again *filtered*

>> No.14898451

>>14898312
Yeah people losing their minds over coronavirus is what's really made me realize that my outlook isn't normal at all. Especially these old fuckers who're determined to hang on to their lives forever as if they're going to do anything with that time.

>> No.14898463

>>14896778
I very rarely gain access to an atempororal plane without warning. It transmits the data of my current state backwards or forwards through time. I can "feel" both ends of the transmission--whether something (future me) is contacting me from my future or that I'm in the present sending something to the past that I've already experienced contact with or that I'm sending something to the future. This is entirely somatic.

This has impacted my belief of free will, (lol) mind body separation, and thoughts on transcendental experiences and the transcendent state of ecstasy.

To further complicate things I believe I have very briefly possessed another person. Seeing the world from through their eyes. This was only after a very close connection was made. So close it was like twin phenomenon as I had knowledge of what was going on in her life (in the somatic sensation sense) despite zero contact and thousands of miles separation.

All this took a long time to sort out and conjure an explanation for. My last belief is that there is a way, perhaps death, to unstick the "self" from the vessel and possess any other vessel. Not control, but a silent passenger. If multiverse theory is true then there are seemingly infinite vessels performing infinite variations of actions. Consciousness on the level of the passenger is being "sorted" into the right vessel at the right time. No disturbance of the vessel is needed as the passenger(s)'s will and the vessel's will align perfectly. We are all just hosts for symbiotic consciousness entities that body hop.

My particular entity seems to be slightly miscalibrated and gets the timing mixed up when the ecstatic resonance state is entered.

>> No.14898518

>>14896778
That I am God's own gift to literature

>> No.14898544

>>14898377
>>14898388
Neither of you know anything about the Middle Ages and not everyone is so weak willed as to shy from all sorts of hardship such as you’re referring to so please spare me you’re “we live in the best time ever” diatribe.

>> No.14898551

>>14898544
Stop romanticizing the past.
You have the freedom to live how you want, it is your fault if you are unhappy, spare the rest of us from your cringe.

>> No.14898556

Virility is divine

>> No.14898615

That waifufaggotry is (or can be) justifiable. Showing this is a trickier process and would require actual study on the part of chronically lazy individuals.

>>14898189
I don't have a death wish but I've wondered for a while how hard and painful it would be to stab oneself in the neck, how much resistance you'd face from your own body as opposed to stabbing the stomach or eye.

>> No.14898638

Young men watching too much porn eventually makes them wonder what the girl is feeling and instead of fantasizing about what it feels like to be the the guy in porn they start thinking about what's it like to be the girl which leads to the transgender epidemic

>> No.14898660

>>14898638
Transgenders have been there since the ancient

>> No.14898676

>>14896778
I believe that trolling is a very therapeutic practice

>> No.14898714

colonizing other planets is morally reprehensible, even if no other life-forms inhabit them

>> No.14898717

>>14898714
Agreed

>> No.14898718

>>14896778
To the foolish wisdom is strange

>> No.14898719

>>14898714
This is very odd.
Expand please.

>> No.14898730

>>14896778
Queens of the Stone Age are awesome and Josh Homme is the greatest thing to happen to rock/metal since Toni Iommi.

>> No.14898735

>>14898224
God is God, but shamanstic and animistic traditions are closest to the true source. All organized religions are getting in their own way, even zen buddhistic practice, that has gotten many things right (But still strive for some ideal that is besides ourselves, leading to guru-ship). People find this source is in themselves and in their surroundings, not in textbooks or teachings from others.

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14898744

I believe in ALL the gods, and that they are all on different powerlevels. The more thought and dedication from conscious beings (aka. humans) they get, the more powerful they get. The abrahamic God which spoke to Abraham was a demon that climbed to the top of the hierarchy and now he resides at the top since he gets juiced up every weekend by the three abrahamic faiths. Spiritual wildlife (entities) exist in the same way as regular wildlife.

>> No.14898746

>>14898735
Of course, much neo-paganist and new age thought of today also corrupts this notion by consumerist superficial ideals, and thereby undermines the listening to the true source from within.

>> No.14898752

>>14898224
>>14898744
The anime/video games pill.
I do like the idea of belief being what makes the gods real.

>> No.14898756

>>14898224
Didn't read the thread and you said basically the same as me. Nice one, m80.

>> No.14898759

>>14898744
The only demons that exists are in our minds, yes, but the supreme and monadic God is real and flowing through all life. All organized religions contains this truth to a certain degree, it is up to the individual followers to realize (In being and in thought) this truth.

>> No.14898761

Happiness/satasfaction are not valid philosophical motives. Anybody who lies on their deathbed content with their life has failed to get any real value from it.
Also, personality and character are societal crutches.

>> No.14898762

I don't believe in determinism although I'm not religious or spiritual in any relevant way.

>> No.14898765

>>14898428
nice kino

>> No.14898770

>>14898752
It is referred to as an 'egregore' in occult and esoteric philosophy, or 'thought form'. If a concept such as a God, demon or whatever gets nourished in the collective consciousness enough, it will become "real". This is the same logic that lies behind the buddhist tulpa, which was a huge trend on /x/ a few years ago.

>> No.14898781

>>14898069
same here buddy

>> No.14898785

>>14898069
That's not strange

>> No.14898788

>>14898759
The demon is only able to have all of that power because of the minds that contribute their souls to him. The best way to fight the Demon of Abraham is to turn away it's followers, whether they be Jew, Christian, or Muslim.

>> No.14898818

>>14896778
A god may exist.

>> No.14898835

That going to space is pointless.

>> No.14898886

>>14896778
That the Antichrist will come very, very soon.

>> No.14898909

>>14898886
It was Obama

>> No.14898915

>>14898788
the demon isn't real, it's mindgames, you're creating your own demon in yourself by fighting him.

>> No.14898931

>>14896778
I hope there's a soul. Doctor btw.

>> No.14898946

>>14898638
I think the epidemic of transgenderism results more from incels/losers being brainwashed by malevolent trannies into "becoming the gf", along with their constant presence in the media demanding "trans rights" and all that bringing attention and glamour to their case.
>>14898730
Based and deafpilled

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>>14898719
I think it's anthrocentric to believe that humans need to constantly expand simply for expansion's sake. We would inevitably exploit them of their natural resources which we could never undo. Terraforming is particularly bad in my opinion, because it destroys something so unique as a planet in order to pursue only own gains. For example, I've always found a kind of beauty in Mars, and I couldn't imagine irreparably changing it from its august red into something green and verdant simply for the satisfaction of saying that we did so.

More practically, I think space imperialism would actually create more problems than it would solve. It would inevitably lead to fracturing and conflict on a scale much larger than we have ever seen. We cannot unify one planet, let alone millions. Furthermore, corporate endeavors disguise their desire for capital and unregulated control of of massive territories under the veil of humanism and progress. Elon Musk gets great press, but if you read between the lines, his true intentions become clear.

All that said, I don't mind sending probes or even settling research facilities like we do in Antarctica. Space in general should function like how we treat Antarctica: a politically neutral zone with a very specific purpose for scientists and artists to explore and discover while interfering with the natural setting as little as possible.

>> No.14899082

>>14896778
Every conscious being is the same single awareness pretending to be multiple.

>> No.14899083

>>14896778
That women are the ones who have been completely in charge the whole time.

I'd rather be taken to a mental institution than for this to be true.

>> No.14899104

>>14899083
Why do you believe something that you think is not you true you fucking idiot?

>> No.14899119

>>14899104
plot twist: he IS at the mental institution

>> No.14899125

>>14896778
I'm not particularly devout but I earnestly believe that one can very simply communicate with dead relatives and close friends, even family members you never met. You just have to listen really hard.

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>>14899082
You've found me out sir, or should I say me!

>> No.14899158

>>14899104
I just hope I'm wrong.

>> No.14899164

>>14899071
How exactly are we going to survive for millennia if we don't do this though? I can see the problems it will cause as well but the alternative is certain destruction.

>> No.14899173

>>14899152
No need for the credit. You did it all by yourself!

>> No.14899177

>>14899164
I used to worry about this, but I've come to peace with the idea that the human race might end one day and that's okay. I'm not an anti-natalist tho

>> No.14899190

>>14896778
The exterior of any Montreal dep can lead to any dep interior. If I figure out the pattern I can teleport across the city.

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i think that some peopleare like robots in the sense of what a conscious mind can be. for example, atruly conscious mind really experiences reality in its true motion, as if its mental eyes could reflex reality with the concepts of self consciousness and true meaning and some others behave around that suposed sense of reality as society explains them. a computer can compute reality but if it doesnt have that last advancement towrds reality it cant truly compute or reflex as i said before a suposed true nature of reality. the suposed experimented nature of reality can be a concept quickly refuted by a mind closer to it or a comunion of ideas that behave around a system of consciousness. what i say is either true and theres only light towards reality in a fraction of the whole number of human minds who have that suposed mutation that makes their brain capable of truly experimenting nor the brain its in fact a reality computing machine by itself as its architecture is meant for, a super huperduper complex system signal response conected to reality in its sensorial fase , and every brain in reality has some kind of awareness. anyways i find quite funny imagining that some people that seem normal are completly blank in what you would supose of its awareness, something like a robot, or something u cant actually reincarnate into if reincarnation is true. Maybe u can understandit better as a model solipsism but not wholy reducted to you but a group of people who are actually the center of the dimension of awareness.

>> No.14899258

>>14899215 maybe thats why a sutter cane effect cannot be done since u dont have a suposed true soul to awake a bestiality from. thats an idea with wich u can play thinking around the dimension of consciousness derived from spirituality

>> No.14899308

>>14896778
Cringe/based dichotomy is the best thing to happen to 4chan

>> No.14899342

>>14899308
Cringe and basedpilled.

>> No.14899348

>>14899177
I find this line thinking is defeatist, weak, feminine and contrary to nature.

>> No.14899377

Im a perennialist. I think all philosophies, religions, and scientific disciplines are working in tandem to uncover and articulate the same universal truth.

>> No.14899412

>>14899071
Life is way more unique than a lifeless space rock

>> No.14899424
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm3UBVd4jh4

So /mu/, have you been saved yet?

There is no time to bicker or care about things of this world but look upward as our redemption draws nigh.

If you have not already, please look out how events are converging and that our fallen world has already become sicker, literally, from this pestilence. Tribulation draws near and God is calling upon and gathering His flock right now

Jesus is the one and only way to True Love from God, friends. His Holiness and Word is reality, not the things of this world

Accept Christ before it is too late

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Each race shares a collective "soul"

>> No.14899830

>>14896778
Someday I will find a thread where OP is not a faggot

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>>14898762

>> No.14899838

>>14898304
>Panpsychism
That isn't strange or a belief, it is an easily provable fact
http://esotericawakening.com/what-is-reality-the-holofractal-universe

>> No.14899846

>>14897724
Some people read Goethe and Melville without seeing a single line of value. Instead of leaving it up to 4chan, work on your own ability to discover insight in things.

>> No.14899858

>>14898287
>God makes it clear in The Bible that other gods exist
citation needed

>> No.14899862

>>14899654
You might be onto something

>> No.14899865

>>14898271
My brother killed himself last July and I'm starting to feel weirder and weirder every day

>> No.14899869

>>14899308
bringed

>> No.14899879

>>14898189
Based. That's why I want to have a slow death, so I could experience every detail of it, every last gasp of air coming from my lungs. Dying an instant death seems so boring.

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>> No.14899893

>>14898313
No quantum expert but reading this feels powerful

>> No.14899921

>>14898735
This is the only truth I’ve read this far.

>> No.14899957

>>14899308
It's intuitive, which is based.

>> No.14899968

That "belief" is a worthless category, as evidenced by every post itt

>> No.14900020

>>14897985
>>14898024
seconded, i need more, explain now

>> No.14900061

>>14899858
>Let us make man in Our Image
>For your God is the god of all gods
>Our God is above all other Gods
The Old Testament constantly refers to other gods, just always that Yahweh is greater

>> No.14900100

That destiny really exists, and everybody can discover them through meditation and abstinence.

>> No.14900122

>>14896778
When you die, you wake up.

>> No.14900126

>>14899654
>>14899654
"I thought if I could save just one, but he was so heavy. It was so cold."

>> No.14900134

>>14896778
Also, the concept of "sublimity" is what reigns the world.

The capitalist system use "sublimity as terror and beauty" to maintain people consuming. It's the same as a toxic relationship where your partner hits you and then gives you a present, so is very hard to leave because you are trapped in feelings.

Sublimity comes from nature so when we were deprived of nature we replaced sublimity with technology, but just "good stuff" is not enough to keep people buying, you need terror of any kind so with terror people inclose in consuming.

God itself is a sublime concept, the terror of the Old Testament with the beauty of the New Testament so you can be in God's hands and love him.

Mothers create most of the time the same concept, they terrorize their kids without notice and love them too, so they grow up conflicted by those feelings.

So Sublimity is the ultimate conduct of how humans live and behave.

>> No.14900137

>>14900061
We are gods

>> No.14900270

>>14900020
there's now way to offer convincing proof in this shortform. at least I'm not intelligent enough to do so. but thinking in terms of the "reconfiguring" writers, those who fundamentally changed thought after their time (homer, christ, descartes, shakespeare, etc.), Melville ought to be the most recent addition to the pantheon. but he's largely been overlooked (notable writers and thinkers often recognize him, but not the general populous), and much of what can be found in Moby-Dick -- namely Ishamel's ultimate realization of how to digest the inscrutable -- could've served to caution against so much of what's gone wrong since then. perhaps it still can. but I'm not articulate enough to give more than hints: A Bower in the Arsacides is the key chapter; Pip is the key character; Shakespeare (Lear/1hIV/Hamlet) is the key secondary text.

just keep re-reading moby-dick as you go through new texts. question everything you internalize. also use your quarantine period to listen to this lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_a_9XLCIZs

>> No.14901256

>>14896778
Ghosts mostly aren't real but demons exist and pretend to be ghosts to trick people and harm them. Some mental illnesses are caused by demonic influence. Demons are malevolent consciouses who want to hurt people. No I'm not catholic or any flavor of christian and I can't prove or provide evidence of these ideas, they are not scientific at all (not that science is the final arbiter of anything interesting).

Some people have agency but most people don't. There are varying degrees of agency but most people barely have any. By that I mean the average person does not have the ability to make decisions for themselves about how to live or act. I think it's pretty clear that if agency and rationality was a faculty of every human being, the world would be very different. Instead it's clear that people are manipulated from birth, in some ways for their own good, but generally the leadership caste has abdicated all responsibility and turned over control of society to the merchant caste, who do not now and will never feel a sense of duty towards their charges.

But who the hell knows. I could be wrong about everything in my entire life and it wouldn't make much difference.

>> No.14901258

>>14896778
that i will get a gf this year

>> No.14901271

>>14898077
Interplanetary travel is not and never will be possible. The Apollo 11 mission photographs and all that shit is a big hoax. I guarantee you SpaceX will never, ever even land a person on the moon, let alone Mars. Humans will only ever live on Earth.

>> No.14901272

>>14896778
Atheism is inherently destructive to a civilisation and will inevitably help destroy it; that civilisation will either have its people replaced, or will have religion come back either in the form of the one it once had, or in the form of an invader's religion.

>> No.14901280

>>14900270
I seriously want to read it now desu, but I haven't read even 1% of the stuff you should read beforehand.
Aaaahhh following the canon is a pain.

>> No.14901352

>>14898638
There have always been a small minority of males on the curb of trannyism. The issue is that test levels have dropped 40% since the 1950s so the proportion went from being expressed in scientific notation with a big negative exponent to 0.1% of the male population.

>> No.14901405

>>14899308
Platonic

>> No.14901443

>>14899083
Women tricked themselves into thinking men are in charge and forgot how to wield their own powers.

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>>14899308
>Yes

>> No.14901826

>>14901280
Reading shouldn’t be an exercise in rigour anon, you’ll never learn to love it if you don’t allow your heart to follow what it fancies

>> No.14901964

>>14899869
cased

>> No.14901971

>>14898730
No

>> No.14902062

>>14899834
Complete misunderstanding.

>> No.14902107

>>14898428
nice picture pls sauce

>> No.14902139

>>14896778
Space is fake and gay

>> No.14902246

>>14898356
He died godly, perfect self control

>> No.14902255

>>14899879
Absolutely this

>> No.14902286

>>14901271
spacex is a hoax

>> No.14902302

>>14896778
i have the right to take any woman and society is wrong to stop me.

>> No.14902315

>>14899071
once humans leave the environment of earth there will be mass depression and misery.

>> No.14902326

>>14899164
you understand that humans have already survived for many millennia just fine, right?
>>14899348
it is nature and only a massive faggot is so concerned about the will of god.

>> No.14902355

>>14898451
people who truly believe they have done well and have achieved something in some way that matters are generally less terrified of death and more specifically the ever shrinking amount of time remaining for them to so do. boomers know they are worthless failures and are terrified of death and being immediately forgotten in it.

>> No.14902360

>>14900134
bretty insightful

>> No.14902372

>>14901280
You don't "have" to read all of it first. You just have to read that stuff eventually. Each time you return to M-D, with more of the canon under your belt, you'll gain exponentially more

>> No.14902909

>>14896778
Jesus didn't rise from the dead and God isn't real but Christianity is still the one true religion.

>> No.14903016

>>14902107
the color of pomegrantes(1969)

>> No.14903249

>>14898061
what is solipsistic idealism?

>> No.14903335

>>14899654
Do hapas have both or neither?

>> No.14903338

the reason why the world is such a shitshow is that every 1st world country's primary leaders and intelligentsia discovered antigravity and developed interstellar drives and have fucked off to a bunch of extrasolar colonies leaving the idiots behind.

tl;dr stargate SG1 was a documentary

>> No.14903471

>>14903335
neither

>> No.14903519

>>14903338
every day i wagecuck i look at the sky from my wagey cagey and wonder why they left me behind as well homie. hits even harder now that everybody is building toilet paper forts in the neighborhood.

>> No.14903527

>>14899424
She cute tho ngl

>> No.14903570

>>14896778
Incest without procreation shouldn’t be taboo. It should be encouraged between brother and sister siblings to practice to strengthen their familial bonds and to have experience in the future for when they split off and create a family. Romance and sex is a normal activity. I’m not saying everyone should do it or anything but if they were consensuel I don’t see how experimenting is that bad.

>> No.14903657

>>14898189
based and bataille pilled

>> No.14903706

>>14901280
Moby Dick is one of the most beautifully written books in the English language. As a reader, if you enjoy literature, you will find something to appreciate no matter your prior knowledge of canon.

>> No.14903730

>>14900270
I feel like a brainlet reading this

>> No.14903749

I don't have any strange beliefs.
No matter which I post, I will be told that plenty of people think like that.

>> No.14903765

>>14896778
I believe in the Evil eye

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>>14896778
I’m really scared of the thought of reincarnation and being stuck in a loop for infinity. I believe it’s true but I can’t find a way out

>>14898224
This 100% but add gnostic elements with YHWH being the/an architect. Jews and Muslims worship him. Archons and spirits are real existing in different planes. Pagans/Hindu gods have dwindled. Jesus is the essence of the monad and shows us the way. Sikhism is something similar. Buddha achieved apotheosis. That is the only way


I know I’m insane

>> No.14903770

>>14903570
based. and then they will never be able to properly bond with their future partner just like in all the failed marriages of now.

>> No.14903776

>>14903749
anon, people wouldn't be on this site if they would be content with normal beliefs, such as having no desire to search for anything to believe in at all. just drifting.

I also have the funny feeling that mankind is missing out on some kind of universal truth that would fix it all, that would free us of our fears and despair, and some kind of niche tribal cult has already figured it out, and the majority just doesn't know it. something really bizarre, like having your corpse eaten by vultures is the one and only way to the afterlife or something like that.

>> No.14903787

>>14903766
you're no less insane than I am, anon. Insanity is liberation - of some sort. you'll be the judge of its benevolence or malevolence.

>> No.14903788

>>14896778
Hierarchies have been intentionally destroyed to make everyone think they can be a "king". As such the top 0.0001% are the only ones who can compete with peers because they are the only ones who know who truly know who their peers are and working people spend their lives spinning in circles.

>> No.14903789

Demons enter through the anus

>> No.14903794

>>14903788
huey long reincarnation when, anon?

>> No.14903797

I will not/do not want to pursue love

>> No.14903802

>>14898224
>>14898251
>>14898287
the problem of incompatibility comes from the purpose of religion as creation myth. the OT inherently conflicts with any other creation myth by claiming to detail the creation of man—all men—rather than just its own subjects, as most other religions of human history have tended to. this incompatibility has cause the jews to conflict with others for basically their whole existence.

>> No.14903825

>>14898069
I feel. I used to joke about literature a lot, and then I was accused of "mansplaining" at work.

I wasn't condescending, I just shared what I read for conversation, to contribute in a way that wasn't showing off.

Anyways, I stick to professionalism at all times now. There's no point being yourself if you're just going to get cut down by it.

>> No.14903827

>>14903787
Insanity definitely is liberation. It’s painful but necessary evil

>> No.14903845

>>14903825
>Anyways, I stick to professionalism at all times now. There's no point being yourself if you're just going to get cut down by it.
Who gives a fuck? Rub it in their face. It’s there problem if they are offended. Just do you job but make sure they seethe at your existence

>> No.14903849

>>14903770
Maybe. I feel like it would make people less spergy with the other sex. I didn’t do incest or anything myself but I had some sexual tension with my older sister and I genuinely think it made me less of a sperg. Not encouraging it but if people didn’t view it so negatively I don’t think there would be much consequences. If it’s consensual go ahead and have fun.

>> No.14903852

hmm I don't know - that other than tautologies (e.g. A = A) we can't know anything for certain? really tho, am I sounding like a freshman who just got out of his philosophy lecture and was like Woah dude... Can we actually know full Truths?

i should finish my coffee

>> No.14903918

>>14896778
I almost believe that repetitive digits have some kind of power, such as dubs, trips etc. The numbers that are by 1 bigger or smaller than those number are unlucky, and must be avoided. For example I never watch my phone when it's 11.12 a.m, 3.34, or i never click on thread that have a number of replies and pictures such as 223 and 56. I "pause" books when I reach a number that ends with repetitive digits and/or is divisible by 3. Yeah, /pol/ fucked up my mind

>> No.14903920

>>14903849
what a fucking retard you are.

>> No.14903928

I want to believe in forest spirits and the like. Got any lit recommendations about it? Maybe about skinwalkers too

>> No.14903946

>>14903920
Ok? Op said strangest opinion you don’t need to agree lol

>> No.14903963

>>14903946
i also don't need to not call you a fucking retard for believing something retarded.

>> No.14903981

>>14903963
You’re retarded I said it shouldn’t be as taboo not that everyone should do it

>> No.14904001

>>14903981
being alright with incest is not even the particularly retarded part of your ideas, it's nearly everything else and your embarrassingly lacking understanding of the subjects involved for one possessing beliefs related.

>> No.14904099

>>14899083
Whew Anon, sorry to tell you but this is the truth. If you got to a mental hospital. You will see how apparent it really is.

>> No.14904105

>>14899158
Pretty sure we live in the Matrix but instead of robots enslaving humanity, women have.

>> No.14904107

>>14904099
check'd

>> No.14904220

>>14903335
They can choose to feed into either collective. In contemporary times non-whites most often identify with their non-white side in public because it is more advantageous. Behind closed doors, who knows.

>> No.14904356

>>14904220
no they can not. half whites can never bee seen as white and will always stand out because they will never even look white.

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>>14898356
didn't expect these feels when I opened this thread

>> No.14905644

that we can use Zeno's paradox as a counterexample to the unknowable truth problem.

>> No.14906045

I'm literally going to Hell very soon.

>> No.14906053

>>14898069
that ARMPIT though
I'm really interested in drawn pits

>> No.14906148

>>14903918
they have power because of superstition,
there is superstition because they have power

>> No.14906271

>>14898463
any substances or practices that trigger this?

>> No.14906677

>>14898442
don't, she's based and anti-semitic now

>> No.14906710

I believe that everyone in this thread conjures hundreds of beautiful observations each day, but almost none bother to notice or write them down. And those who do never compile them into anything more than circuitous aphorisms and contentless BTFOs.
Myself included ofcourse.

>> No.14907164

>>14906710
most likely true

>> No.14908608

That in the end, everything will be okay, no matter what.

>> No.14908717

>>14908608
Based
We're all gonna make it, lad

>> No.14908722

>>14906053
Based pitpatrician. I hope you educated yourself about the anatomy of the pits, my friend.

>> No.14908777

>>14900122
This.
Life is a dream.

>> No.14908785

>>14896778
benis belongs in bagina

>> No.14908805

>>14900061
>in Our image
Because God is three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
>god of all gods
this is just emphasizing God's supremacy. there are clearly other parts in the Bible that states there is only one God, like Isaiah 45:5 for example. its basically just stating that God is above all the other gods because...
>above all other gods
...because all the other gods are not real, they are just idols.

>when people think they're an expert on ancient judaism because they read a couple bible verses out of context
Shame on you

>> No.14908820

>>14908785
This

>> No.14908827

that living here on earth is just an initial training phase for something we poor earthlings are not allowed to know yet

>> No.14908914

>>14898224
This.
>and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the Lord.

>> No.14908975

>>14896778
that i was/possibly still am being stalked by someone i pissed off on the internet

>> No.14908980

>>14906053
surprisingly based

>> No.14909003

>>14898189
i believe this too but i also really dont want to because im a gigantic pussy

>> No.14909020

>>14898271
>I just don't understand how something that happens to everyone can be the worst thing ever that everyone's so shit scared of
because its permanent and irreversible

>> No.14909065

>>14896778
In the coming millenia Humanity will eventually have to decide between ensuring our species' survival or ensuring supply of pleasure.
When our environment changes beyond a breaking point (after conquering some planets or living climate change or AI taking over or whatever) our evolved preferences won't be useful anymore for survival and we may not want to continue living at all. Consciousness has gained too much power over our actions and it is still emotionally dependant, so its trend of favoring a good quality of life over the genetic survival will prove that consciousness was an evolutionary mistake. Contraception, celibacy, planned families are already some of the first signs in the direction towards species suicide. And we take that direction under the idea, real or imagined, that we are happy.

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>>14899838
>easily provable fact
>esotericawakening.com
gb2/x/

>> No.14909316

>>14903776
That one truth you think humanity is missing out on will probably plunge us all into chaos and terror. I think the elites know whatever is behind the curtain, use it to their advantage and hide it from us. It’s probably related to what has been said on this thread by a couple of anons.

>> No.14909374

>>14896778
That someday I'll get a better job.

>> No.14909380

>>14898055
Moby Dick Summarized.

Sail. Trail pale whale. Fail.

>> No.14909391

>>14903825
>There's no point being yourself if you're just going to get cut down by it.
Sad, but based.

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I believe that if I my curiosity is strong enough about something, it'll happen. When I was a kid, for some stupid reason I really wanted to get bullied. Cue to a year later where I'm being threatened a swirlie. Then another time I wanted to feel like depression was like, then two years after that I end up failing to noose myself. Later on, I starting thinking about death and how it must suck to have someone close to you die. Two people close to me died. For the past year I've wondering how psychosis and shit like that feels like. . . .I'm scared. WHY CAN'T I JUST WONDER ABOUT HOW IT WOULD BE LIKE IF I WENT ON A ROLLER COASTER OR SOME SHIT? FUCK MORBID CURIOSITY.

>> No.14909570

>>14903918
You have OCD anon. I do this too and was diagnosed a year ago.

>> No.14909783

>>14909020
Time passes constantly and is also permanent and irreversible. We don't find that change scary but it's there.

>> No.14909855

>>14909570
Shit, it might be. Funny how I'm really rational, but at the same time I almost believe these things. But as you say, maybe is more a disturb than an actual belief. Sadly I don't see a psychologist since years so I don't know what I should do

>> No.14910070

>>14896778
We humans were capable of sorcery until Hebrew religions were conceived

>> No.14910103

>>14900020
Watch Dreyfus’ lectures on Moby Dick. Rather than a strictly pagan or Christian belief we’ve shifted with Ishmael into a dreamlike pantheism or perennialism, as best seen in the whiteness of the whale. All spectra combine to form the blinding terror of it, the whiteness, there is truth in every shade. We’ve realized that we are atop the indefinite and infinite plane that is the ocean. The principle characters are genius types with different methods of dealing with this fact, my favourite is Bulkington

>> No.14910125

Wotan’s hand guides me

>> No.14910243

>>14896956
That I'll be happy about being happy.

>> No.14910263

I believe fairies are real.

>> No.14910282

>>14910263
I mean... OP is evidence.

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>>14896778
The object has always triumphed over the subject. I'm a firm epistemological anti-realist. Most of the things we claim to do are impossible to do in reality. In order to do that we've created an operational double derived from the corpse of the real. Reality has no double, so it cannot be exchanged against itself. In making an operational double we've created an infinitely reproducible model that allows for anything to be exchanged against anything else. Reality cannot be known. Our knowledge of reality is the feeling an amputee has of a phantom limb.

>> No.14910601

>>14896778
Panpsychism probably.

>> No.14910625

>>14899886
Anymore pls

>> No.14910659

>>14898189
>>14898262
>>14898615
>>14899879
>>14902255
you guys are fucking nuts

>> No.14910672

>>14896778
When you die, your soul lives on. Without any sensory input from your body, you just exist in a silent void with nothing but memories of your life to go over and over for the rest of eternity

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>>14898224
>biblical (world) typology and proselytization mission (comparative religion)

>>14908914
>>14903766
>YHWH being the/an architect
Upper Egypt (Memphis pantheon) coup with Setian/'assyrian' Hyksos

>>14898189
Having ridden the razor's edge of just this -- being ready does not entail resignation (or elation at a prospective new life in a novel beyond, or remorse).

>>14898274
One day, we'll deal with the neanderthals for good.

>>14899071
>mars slave colonies
NJMZA. Hans Dellschau. Dirigible sightings mid-late 1800s. non-'banker' physics. Tesla. Nazi Bell. Red Mercury. Torsion fields. -- The world war two rockets space travel paradigm is a dog and pony show since these developments went black following the JFK thing. There is a danger of breakaway societies/civilizations that got there first simply astroturfing terrestrial development, forever. The missing 21 trillion (now closer to 40) from 'undocumented adjustments' in HUD & DOD testified on by Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 in all likelyhood went straight 'up'. Same for Gadafi gold (look up the NXIVM connection) and the alleged F-35 boondoggle (hand-me down off the shelf gibs). Pure speculation of course.

>>14899215
They are conditioned to response reflexively, too quickly for self-reflection/intent/will to really be expressed. It takes a lot to drill out natural curiosity. Their OODA loop is partitioned from the gut, hamster wheel appetites electrocuting their ego constanty.

>>14899654
>Each race shares a collective "soul"
Biomorphogenetic fields (mediated by microtubules) probably facilitate ancestral memory -- instinct, spirit, whatever -- and the erection of a new Babylon has more to do with erasing these intangible roots than anything else.

>>14899865
Say his name (internal, aloud, doesn't matter) every day; speak to him at his burial/ash spreading site.

>>14900270
>namely Ishamel's ultimate realization of how to digest the inscrutabl
You give this impression well, been meaning to reread it again.

>>14901256
There are biological/physical correlates to disease (~Chinese medicine) -- 'demons' are like viruses that require a certain receptor lock on a cell [spike protein]

>>14906710
>LYNCH: Letting a good idea just get away is worse than death, you may as well kill yourself.

>> No.14910722

>>14906710
I love this. Reminds me of ceo's saying they were in the right places and lucky but knew to (and how to) jump on the opportunity

>> No.14911272

>>14896778
The world disappears when we don't observe it.

>> No.14911421

>>14896778
That the Romantic taste for intentionally controlling & intensifying the sense for place, and making it personal as can be, building up atmosphere as a sort of synesthetic cuisine, is the last possible degree there is to quality of experience. That is to say that Wager's notion of a total art, into which something of every form goes for the purpose of making moods so exact in their specifications that they happen only once-a-world in the heads of their makers, is not only possible, but even probable in those who comprehend what it implies about introspection as a very male way of life. Stevens, in his roundabout way, expresses a similarly spacious view of how and why to live, but more as a matter of fact about what it's like to be like that, as opposed to the aspiration of becoming like that when you're not yet all the way there--which is more the case with Wagner. It's one of those facts of nature it is in the nature of philosophers to either deny or be oblivious to, which is why I regard them as altogether backward compared to poets.

>>14899886
>Michigan Blue Hell
The only cookies I maintain are the YT ones to prolong sprees into richer, broader, deeper weirdness. Maybe I'll start searching at the bottom of this list to craft an expanded version of it. Maybe not.

>> No.14912548

>>14896778
im not gay

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>>14896778

Free will is so free that one plans his whole life AS he is distinguishing one's self from God, including one's degree of forgetfulness of this fact and of impression that it is not so. Anything and everything in one's life truly being the only thing that could have happened, Ontologically. One IS the coincidence between freedom and determination.

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>>14896778

Free will is so free that one plans his whole life AS one is distinguishing one's self from God, including one's degree of forgetfulness of this fact and of impression that it is not so. Anything and everything in one's life truly being the only thing that could have happened, Ontologically. One IS the coincidence between freedom and determination.

>> No.14913300

>>14896778
I believe very few actions are actually immoral. What is immoral (and also far beyond immoral) is spiritual deadness--unconsciousness.

>> No.14913370

>>14900270
What Melville book would you recommend to read after Moby Dick?

>> No.14914167

>>14906710
Am I misremembering or was there a story in Ficciones where some author is mentioned to believe this? I've been trying to remember which story but I don't have the book in front of me and it's gonna annoy me all evening if I can't figure it out.

>> No.14914249

>>14912860
it's not so simple

>> No.14914273

>>14914249

You dropped this:

;

>> No.14914328

>>14896778
All heterosexual couples engaging in recreational sex should always engage in anal and oral acts in order to forever end abortions.

We should be investing heavily in cloning technology so that we can eat meat without having to take the lives of animals.

>> No.14914346

>>14898323
This is not a "strange" belief. It's shared by literally every self-loathing, climate hysteric lefty.

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>>14896778
I believe that this guy was completely 100% correct concerning his metaphysics. Even the cooky stuff you normally don't read about. He believed in stuff like ESP and magic. These individuals could access the world of the Will to affect changes in the world of Representation. I believe some individuals, through sheer force of will, can bend reality to their will in some esoteric, barely noticeable, way.

>> No.14914376

>>14898292
How is this strange? People have recognized for millennia that God doesn't have a gender. Words like Lord and Father are metaphors because God's true nature can't be grasped by man. I mean, they figured this out as early as the Middle Ages. You probably find it in the earliest Church fathers.

>> No.14914400

>>14899071
You're a loser. Get a testosterone injection. I bet you're one of those "humans are a disease upon the earth" kind of types. Fuck you and your self-loathing. You're holding the rest of us back.

>> No.14914416

>>14898323
So give me an example of what is intelligent and civilized?

>> No.14914431

>>14896778
That fate is by my side. Come rain or shine I will be fine.

>> No.14914438

>>14914364
What?

>> No.14914447

>>14914438
>It was in the second edition of On the Will in Nature that he would later introduce the amazing Signor Regazzoni, the great magnetizer, who hypnotized members of his audience through the mere force of his will – well, according to the awestruck philosopher. For example, a woman was invited on stage to play the piano. Standing fifteen paces away, Regazzoni paralyzed the woman, making her unable to play. Another woman was summoned on stage and as the magical Italian walked behind her, he made her fall backward, without any physical contact. To explain this event from a physical standpoint, Schopenhauer hypothesized that the Signor had isolated her brain from her spinal cord, and thereby her sensible and motor nerves, which produced a cataleptic state. Like the tumbling woman, Schopenhauer fell for Regazzoni’s act – it never occurred to him that the woman was a plant.

>> No.14914453

>>14899834
I don't think pic related understands Einstein.

>> No.14914459

>>14914438
>>14914447
>Ragazzoni accomplished his effects not through the magical influence of his will, Schopenhauer believed, but simply through will. Theorizing from his transcendental standpoint, which recognized the principium individua- tionis, space and time, as ideal, Schopenhauer viewed Ragazzoni’s feats and magnetic phenomena in general as expressing “pure will itself, separated as much as possible from all representations.” Such occurrences cannot be explained through appeal to the nexus physicus, he realized. By violating natural laws, these events could only be pronounced frauds. They could be explained, Schopenhauer argued, by positing a nexus metaphysicus, some- thing provided by his metaphysics of will, which obviated individuality by viewing magnetizer and somnambulist ultimately as one.

>> No.14914462

>>14914328
Death is inevitable for man. He kills to obtain food and he kills to clothe himself. He kills to adorn himself, he kills in order to attack, and he kills in order to defend himself. He kills to instruct himself and he kills to amuse himself. He kills to kill. Proud and terrible king, he wants everything and nothing resists him. From the lamb he tears its guts and makes his harp resound, from the wolf his most deadly tooth to polish his pretty works of art, from the elephant his tusks to make a toy for his child: his table is covered with corpses. And who in this general carnage will exterminate him who exterminates all the others? Himself. It is man who is charged with the slaughter of man. Thus is accomplished the great law of the violent destruction of living creatures. The whole earth, perpetually steeped in blood, is nothing but a vast altar, upon which all that is living must be sacrificed without end, without measure, without pause, until the consummation of things, until evil is extinct, until the death of death.

>> No.14914467

>>14908805
Yes, thats a Christian interpretation so as to get the wanted result.
The priests of paraoh turn their staffs to snakes. There is power not of yhwh in the text.

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>>14896778
Coldness be my God.

>> No.14914482

>>14896778
With the increasing mechanisation of war, really picking up starting with the trenches in 1914, men have lost a major historical avenue for self-overcoming. Death in hand-to-hand combat, looking your enemy in the eyes, I believe, is a primal need for man based on his evolutionary past. It was a way to transcend yourself and in the few moments before death, gave men a purpose in life.
The other avenue is still accessible to us: sex. But with the disappearance of self-overcoming through war, all our energies have focused on the self-forgetting moment of sexual orgasm. This is why our society has become increasingly sexualized.
There are only two avenues for self-overcoming because there are, at depth, only two (well, only really ONE) purposes to an individual life: gathering resources (and keeping competition/thieves away) and procreation.

>> No.14914514

God might be just a product of human imagination, but that doesn't in any way mean that he's not real or we shouldn't worship him

>>14902909
Please elaborate if you can, i'm intrigued

>> No.14914522

>>14901256
I think that ghosts are the shadows of 4 dimensional creatures just fucking around. The same way that sticking your finger into a fish tank freaks them out because it looks like a worm or something, so the shadows look like human apparitions because that's the closest thing our minds can relate to them.

>> No.14914961

>>14898189
Fuck immolation bro. But I agree with the line of thought. Not just pain, though that in good measure too, but (preferably) spontaneous passion and purpose and anguish and violence and tragedy and destruction. Anything strong and real for my own mind in the act of dying.

>> No.14914988

humanity's attachment to monomyth will destroy us all

>> No.14915001

>>14896778
I assert strong beliefs here because I lack core conviction for anything within. Almost got in a fight over not being interested or proud of anything.

>> No.14915013

>>14908805
>...because all the other gods are not real, they are just idols.
What does this mean? What's 'just idols'? You don't think anyone actually worshipped representations or vectors, do you? Like saying Christians worship crosses and churches. Also, I'm pretty sure all gods derive from real people including the Christian god. Goes from person to hero to mythical figure (often still ancestral despite divine qualities) to otherworldly figure to god (and often more as you can clearly see in Hinduism, Norse mythology, and Christianity/Islam).

>> No.14915028

>>14899071
This is wrong. I feel a faustian urge to explore and conquer the stars. There is the drive within us for a reason. It’s from God.

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I can choose whichever reality I'd like to live

>> No.14915051

>>14898061
Do you mean that fantasizing about something is experiencing it? Didn't Lacan say something about that?

>> No.14915061

Women literally destroyed the planet within 100 years of getting the vote.

>> No.14915069

>>14914482
This is why combat sports are important. There are certain things that define a man, killing and fucking are two of many. I know it sounds edgy as shit, but primal urges are still deep within us. You don’t need to indulge them but control them.

>> No.14915076

>>14903825
I kinda get behind that notion, I think it's about being tactful. I also deny it, because I think it builds up resentment because you end up victimizing yourself. Maybe the solution is about analyzing a situation carefully and balancing out your inner beliefs with what will harm you and what won't. Don't give up on what you believe, but don't go full retard and ("muh spooks") harm yourself by exposing it in a way that you are liable to get punished/reprimanded for.

>> No.14915096

>>14898189
To go out with a bang, not with a whimper?

>> No.14915122

>>14903338
Due to the Virus? Give me a full rundown bro.

>> No.14915128

>>14898451
>>14898312
>>14898271
>>14902355

I think it's a matter of ego, they estimate their existence as containing of some "value" and are as a result terrified of death. For someone who is more disconnected from his ego, he's less likely to despair at his own doom because he doesn't see the problem with a universe in which he doesn't exist.

>> No.14915129

>>14915047
t. "doctor said you have schizophrenia so it must be real" wojak poster

>> No.14915148

>>14909783
Change doesn't mean the absolute termination of the "I". The more self-conscious a being is, the more it is truly and wholeheartedly capable of being of terrified of its own doom. The less intelligent a living being is, the less it is scared of its death. There is no fantasy beyond death.

>> No.14915158

>>14898313
I'm too dumb to into science. This sounds interesting, can you try and explain this to an idiot please?

>> No.14915175

>>14898307
Isn't that subjective to your own needs and desires though? Unless, you do you mean that subjectively.

>> No.14915221

>>14898463
Are you sure you aren't just fantasizing? Take this for example, if you were to watch a movie about future you, that still wouldn't be you, because you can only refer to that being in your mind as "him" - third person. If you saw future you lose an arm, could you truly empathize with him fully, until you lose that arm as well? Or are you just fantasizing about losing that arm? You claim to see the world from their eyes, but can you imagine being colorblind? If that person processes stimuli different than you do - the way he feels pleasure is different than the sensation you get, or for example those people that claim to taste color or sounds or whatever. Then you are simply fantasizing. In such cases, aren't you still you? If you are still you in those scenarios, if you are still processing the stimuli the same way you've always had, then isn't that just wild imagination/fantasy?

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ape mode

>> No.14915246

That we somehow get signs in life to guide us.

During a time were I didn't know whether to leave a Church or stay, I was hanging out with my non-church friends (which was a big nono), and that night I saw three shooting stars. I took that as a sign to leave, and I so far it seems like it was the right choice.

>> No.14915256

>>14896778
I believe the modern left is an slaaneshy cult.

>> No.14915289

>>14903570
I think that beyond societal pressure there exists an evolutionary red flag that result in revulsion at the thought of incest, since it is threatening. If there was no estimated negative consequences to it, there wouldn't be an avoidance of it.

>> No.14915310

>>14903788
Yeah, I agree. Nowadays, everyone is raised up with the belief their existence is "worth" the entire universe, and so they desperately seek validation for that worth. People should contemplate about exactly what they are and learn to be satisfied with what they have, yet always aim to improve, instead of slavering over an impossible objective without direction.

>> No.14915322

>>14896778
loch ness monster prolly
i choose to believe it

>> No.14915351

>>14896778
That a universal truth exists, but it probably isn't achievable by a single being working by himself. And that language is incredible, because I think that if I were to take all 26 letters of the English alphabet and make up an infinite amount of combinations with them, One of these combination will describe a universal truth, it will probably be a lie because it just a representation of the truth.

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>>14915256
Is 40k just star wars for right wing people?

>> No.14915560

>>14915061
shit youre kind of right, but i also believe that we are still in the infancy of women's acceptance of themselves and this stage will pass.

>> No.14915586

In the end, death claims us all.

>> No.14915601

>>14915532
Yes.

>> No.14915617

>>14898189
Extremely based.

>>14898224
Objectively true.

>> No.14915640

>>14896778
Free will is a fraud. Luck is a concept that has no place in reality. There are an infinite amount of roads available at each moment, however, at the end of it, logic dictates there is only one outcome that will always happen in every scenario.
Imagine you are playing a visual novel, and you make a certain choice in it. You have dictated the road a character will take, and its consequence. If I were to take you back to the point where you made that choice, and erase all experience from that point onwards from the entire universe, some from of perfect time travel, would you ever choose a different path? I think that you wouldn't. Your past dictates your future. It's a cuck mentality though, and I'd love anyone to prove me wrong.

>> No.14915668

>>14899071
I feel a deep and visceral loathing for the soft hands that wrote this.

>> No.14915943

>>14915640
Quantum theory dictates there is a small, yet non-zero chance that said choice may change, Laplace's Demon can suck my dick.

>> No.14916008

>>14915943
I honestly don't know anything about quantum theory, so I wont argue you about that. But, the point is that in that very point in time, with the state of the universe in the exact moment before you've made the decision, you would always make the decision wont you? Unless the point is that the universe can encompass different states of being at the same time or something, so that every moment you are actually making all the decisions at the exact same time, but still, if I'm doing everything at the same time, doesn't that still mean I still don't have true "free" will? Sorry if I'm an absolute brainlet and can't into science....

>> No.14916046

>>14898189
Based >>14898047
>>14897985
I am also reading the whale

>> No.14916088
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I am a trivialist. Mostly trivialist. Somewhere between a modal realist and a trivialist, if I'm being honest.

If we are to imagine trivialism as a black hole, specifically the singularity, I am within the event horizon. And yet, I am not a part of the singularity, I am outside of it. I am within a miraculously stable orbit within the philosophical schwarzschild radius. Most importantly? I have discovered a system of thought which can escape this inescapable place, and more than that, can harness the absolute untapped potential inherent to its structure.

Within this epistemological fortress, my furnaces of creation and discovery are firing full blast. There are new linguistic functions to be created, new parts of speech to be designed. Someday soon, I will make my presence known (to absolutely no fanfare, and my thoughts will die in obscurity like myself. But maybe in 100 years someone will read them)

>> No.14916198

>>14914447

wew lad imagine being convinced by a lasagna scam artist

>> No.14916217

>>14915640
What does an act of free will look like?

What does an act of determinism look like, by comparison?

>> No.14916246

>>14913370
in order, I'd recommend
Bartleby, The Scrivener (short story), secondary sources are helpful
Benito Cereno (short story)
Billy Budd (short story)

then two novels he wrote following Moby-Dick: Pierre; or, the Ambiguities, and The Confidence Man: His Masquerade. these get shit on in academia, don't let that dissuade you. for very different reasons, they're each two of the most difficult to decipher books of the English language. there's arguably more to them regarding style than depth, which probably makes them lesser than Moby-Dick, but both are masterpieces.

it's incredible that those two novels are so overlooked. if you understandably get befuddled when reading the Confidence Man, think of it in this lens: it's a story asking you to decide whether the titular character, who takes on many forms during the book, is one of two grand theological figures: Satan or Christ. very solid arguments can be made for either point of view

>> No.14916254

>>14910719
I am a firm believed that re-reading is the most valuable form of reading, and I've found nothing more rewarding than Moby-Dick. Highly recommend revisiting it when you feel inspired to do so

>> No.14916283

>>14916008
Ignore that anon. Science says absolutely nothing about free will or determinism. If you ever hear anyone mention bell’s theorem that should be an immediate red flag that they’re retarded and don’t know what they’re talking about

>> No.14916499

>>14916217
I don't know what determinism is.

That's the thing about the way I see free will. I can't see how it is anything but impossible to possess it. If I explain every choice as a consequence of past actions, then no choice is really a choice, its just an effect of something else. Like I'm just a domino that's falling because the domino before it fell. I'm probably just a retard that can't help but look at himself like some sort of function or something. But, maybe a "free will" sort of action is something impossible, like not even choosing anything in the first place. Did I ever choose to exist even?

>>14916283
Okay, I'll do that, but now I'm curious. What is bell’s theorem?

>> No.14916566

>>14914400
I am not an eco-fascist. I do want the best for humanity, but I think space is the wrong place to find betterment for our species

>> No.14916617

I always thought I had some weak psychic ability but I always kind of passed out off as a joke. I also believe I have a female ancestor that watches over me like a guardian angel. I think it's one of my grandmas, but I never got to meet either of them.

>> No.14916630

>>14903570
Yeah I have a hot sister too anon.

>> No.14916645

>>14910672
Oh my God that would be hell

>> No.14916664

>>14910672
>>14916645
What would you feel though? Would there even be a you? Do you exist without your brain? And if you do, in what form?

>> No.14916717

>>14896778
Nothing particularly wacky, but part of me wonders if Germany didn't specifically want the UK to leave the EU and engineered events such that they would.

Realistically, right now, they have no foil. Germany is the unitary ruler of the EU. They might've decided to risk taking the economic hit of the UK leaving the EU, even with no deals, just for the sake of power.
In the future most of Europe will be a single superstate where people will lie to themselves and pretend it's a democracy but in fact it will be a long procession of dictatorships propping up the heinous marriage of corporate interests with byzantine government bureaucracy to the sole exclusive benefit of a very small number of people.

In that regard, I think the worst political prediction of the cyberpunk genre are correct. With that said, I believe life will be very comfortable bordering on utopian to anyone that doesn't buck the trend.

I believe that I will live to see at least some colonization of the solar system and I believe that by this time some of the third world will be elevated to 2nd world status but most of the third world will remain a perpetual shit-hole forever and ever until the end of time.

>> No.14916909

>>14898365
I started to appreciate Medieval Times more after reading Guenon to be honest.

>> No.14917217

>>14915640
Free will can't be refuted and the deterministic conception can't be established because free will and indeterminism have been fundamental parts of any viable laws of physics or their application since 1925 for fudging 95 years. The quantum mechanical revolution has established the non-existence of determinism in Nature and the dependence on the observer and his choice of the observation (and free will is also exhibited by elementary particles and all other degrees of freedom due to Kochen's and Conway's free will theorem; a theorem means that it's been proven mathematically).

>> No.14917221

>>14898189
Based, I agree.

>> No.14917400

>>14898189
Sounds like In the Penal Colony

>> No.14917452

>>14916198
Isn't that fascinating? Yet this guy was smarter than all of /lit/ combined.

>> No.14917802

>>14917217
You haven't really explained to me why free will doesn't exist. You just said that it does because of quantum mechanics. Can you explain the principle behind it? Because I still don't get it. Like I said, even if there does exist another potential path, what guarantee is there that returning to it, it won't be forsaken the same way it had in the past? How do you absolutely know that the universe isn't aligning in a very specific way at every possible option due to some unknown reason? If you were to press "pause", take the "me" of right now, return me to the state I was in when I wrote my first post and paste onto every single particle in the universe the exact same state they had been in when I wrote it down to every trait they possess, and press play, will anything play out differently than it did the from the point I wrote the first post to the point I wrote this one? Not the infinite options that exist, but this specific one. Sort of like a Wind-up toy.

>> No.14917832

>>14896778
Job/Sodom?G was a NUKE

We will be able to computing that directly affects reality

Certain Geometric shapes have special properties that effect the law of the universe

You die, you get waht you beleive in

>> No.14917847

>>14917802
>>14917217
What I think I'm basically asking is, If I were to flip a coin right now and it would land exactly on the middle, rewind time, and flip it again an infinite amount of times, wouldn't it just land on the middle an infinite amount of times? Can the percentages of it landing on heads, tails or the middle simply be an illusion that's hiding a true 100% that it would land on the middle?

>> No.14917887

Reincarnation is real, but there is only one spirit. When you die you are reborn as another person that has lived on Earth in any time period. Time is not linear and we are all the same spirit living simultaneously. When we have all lived through human life we will become one with God and live as him, and use what we learned in our lives to create the Earth in the beginning. We should be good to one another because we have and will live as everyone else.

>> No.14917967

>>14896778
I don't know if this is my strangest but : every soul reincarnates, there are several hells, and this world is a hell among others.

>> No.14918809

>>14915013
>what's "just idols"?
it could either be representations or vectors like you said, or it could be just any false gods. all the pagan gods are idols. all the hindu gods are idols. they are false gods.
>I'm pretty sure all gods derive from real people including the Christian god. Goes from person to hero to mythical figure (often still ancestral despite divine qualities) to otherworldly figure to god (and often more as you can clearly see in Hinduism, Norse mythology, and Christianity/Islam).
and what evidence do you have to support this?

>> No.14919023

>>14899308
Epic fail