/lit/ - Literature

>>14876046
should be great last time my power was out i read so many books

>>14876046
I’m the anon who had cancer, so I’ve already been “quarantined” recovering in a country house. Right now I’m reading War and a Peace, and sometimes I pause to read a short story by Chekhov or Gogol. Enjoying them a lot.

>>14876058
Chekhov is top cozy for quarantine times. Have you ever read Carver's short story featuring Chekhov?

>>14876073
I haven’t, I’ve only read maybe 3 stories by Carver. How is it?

>>14876046
Wish I was wealthy enough to fuck off to some countryside for a year or so until this shit blows over. But I'm only a humble wagecuck, and will continue to ride the busy trains every day, waiting for a fateful cough to end my suffering.

I haven't payed any attention to it, and will continue to ignore it.

I've been practicing my entire life for this.

>>14876046
My university is either not coming back from spring break, finishing the semester online, or some combination of both. Wouldn't mind it tbqh I hate being there.

>>14876046
I work in healthcare. So it's really just making me busier than usual.

I'm expecting my workplaces to go into shutdown soon. I work two jobs, both casually employed. If they shutdown that means no money for however long the quarantine lasts. So I'm praying things stay open.

If it does shut down I've got a bunch of history books I'm looking to read. I just got a copy of Everything Was Forever, Until It Was No More about the end of the Soviet Union, so I'd probably start with that.

>>14876125
Based

Pretty annoying, bunch of events I was planning on going to got cancelled. My mom has a dry cough (she’s a smoker) and has to spend the week home lmao

This hysteria is really getting out of hand, I’m not a conspiracy theorist but if I was I’d suspect it to be a pretext to test out forms of population control.

>>14876148
why is that?

>>14876046
I was born self-quarantined.

got a lot of litcore and games i've been wanting to play so i'm happy with that. was not concerned much about the virus until I considered the fact that I have asthma, which would leave me open to pneumonia.

>>14876046
All schools (including unis) are closed, from today. So yea. I'll probably go through the philokalia

>>14876046
I'm Italian.
Yesterday I finished Crime and punishment. The libraries are closed. This extra free time without gym and library is annoying me so I started again searching job.

>>14876554
where do you live?

>>14876579
i'm just about to finish crime and punishment now, have the last chapter of part 6 + the epilogue left. how did you enjoy it? the dream/nightmare sequences are so vivid, particularly the crimson moon one when Raskolnikov tries to kill the crone again, and Svidrigailov's suicide

>>14876579
Not a bad idea
>>14876587
Denmark

Literally wouldn't notice.

>>14876554
Baseret og rødpillet.

As for myself, a corona lockdown is an excellent opportunity to read some tuberculosis literature by Thomas Mann.

>>14876046
The Extended Phenotype and some Evola.

>>14876604
Du ved det fyr. Spændende valg.

>>14876046
There are barely any cases in my entire country, but still a quiet feeling of paranoia has sneaked into my consciousness.
It's nothing really, but I've still felt annoyed about sensing foolish concern about having caught it, in the middle of the night, when I'm obviously just feeling nauseous for having drunk too much tea and staying awake reading until around 4 AM like the idiot I am.

Currently, it seems, that the idea and though of the thing is more dangerous than the thing itself.

>>14876046
I study medicine in europe so rotations have been cancelled and we have a 2 week suspension on all classes.
I won't be reading much, need to get on schedule for the exams in a month

>>14876046
todays my last day of lecture before spring break
my school is probably going to extend the break to two weeks and/or demote all classes to online for the next few weeks following the break

>>14876433
Yeah, bro. This exponential increase in cases in no way warrants precautions and defensive measures, it’s just hysteria!!!!!!

We only had a handful of cases over here, but the authorities are like "heh it's nothing" and I live in a crowded disorganized place so I'm expecting it to hit us hard in one or two weeks. I'm coming from vacation next week but I hope they close it perhaps the next one. I work with people and older people at that, so it's even more dangerous.

I have a pile of unread books I want to pick up and also a project to transform a room in my house into a painting set up so I'l focus on that.

I admit I'm really scared about it, first because the authorities are so unreliable I think it's more serious than it seems, second for older people I know, third because I have asthma and nearly died last year because of other problems, fourth because I'm depressed and tired and I just want peace of mind anons, I have enough problems :(

I'm just sinking into depression and losing my will to read again despite being used to the shut in life

Maybe I should buy some Mie Goreng incase a quarantine happens...

I would love to go into comfy quarantine desu. I have more books and writing materials than a man would ever need. I would bang out masterpieces.

I'm indifferent to the pest and quite amused and fascinated by how it is drastically upsetting society's composure. I fear for my mother, who has a preexisting condition, but she is not some globetrotter who is liable to catch it unless half the world becomes infected.

>tfw I have to TA next semester but it might be cancelled
>tfw may not have to interact with undergrads for another 6 months

YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My work is sending everyone home to work remote and my boss keeps downplaying the threat and emphasizing how important it is to still get work done. We’re not even a for-profit company. He’s just a faggot. I woke up with a tight chest and bad cough today.

>>14876883
How exactly did the protestant work ethic stay alive after secularization and irreligiosity? No one still believes they'll finally get their promotion to the next prestige-and-pay grade when they die, but they act like it is the case.
If you're forced to go to work, make sure to wilfully infect your boss.

I work in a bookstore but it hasn't quite hit us yet in the region. I think I'm going to start slowly stealing as many books as I can until it blows up. If it doesn't, then I have a bunch of books anyways.

I live in a shithole on the south of Brazil so I'm pretty sure I will be fine. I'm going to kill any itallian faggot If see one, just in case tough.

>>14877075
Brasil tá fudido, esses filhos da puta irresponsáveis tratam como se fosse uma doencinha qualquer. Em duas-três semanas tu vai ver como a gente vai se ferrar para caralho.

>>14876554
Thank you, Jesus!

>>14876105
>his family collectively hasn't owned a large countryside house for 10 generations
>someone in his family cut all contact with the rest and moved to the city
ohnononono

>>14877093
Ehh eu não acredito que vai ser tudo isso. De qualquer forma, se acontecer algum tipo de surto, será nas capitais e eu estou a 500km da capital mais próxima e vivo numa cidade com menos de 50mil habitantes, estou tranquilo.

>>14876046
I was getting really tired of school so it's a good thing they are going online. Aside from that, it hasn't affected me at all.

>>14876105
>corona
>ending your suffering
you fucking fool

>>14876554
Based and orthodoxpilled.

>>14876046
Finished watching Survivors yesterday and currently 30 pages into I am Legend, have station 11 on Audiobook, and collected writings of Emerson to begin my ove of nature as humanity dies out and Nature recovers the planet.

I want to catch it; I want to die

>>14877126
Vai ser sim, bicho. Meio que não tem como não ser. Mas menos mal para você pela localização, eu estou no centro de São Paulo e já me preparando, estocando comida e não saindo mais de casa. O Brasil vai parar.

Aliás tu viu que o chefe da Secom foi confirmado com o virus? Esteve com Bolsonaro, Trump e vários ministros. O bicho vai pegar.

But anyway

I'm not ready to die yet. Theres so much to live for

I go to the gym during peak hours and eat at a student cafeteria, it's just a matter of time before I get it. I won't be visiting my parents and grandparents any time soon because they're smokers/old. Business as usual.

>>14876046
I will be working on my theses. Hopefully I can defend it in June and the virus won't delay my graduation. I'll also finally get to reading Moby Dick.

>>14876046
Mostly positive.

>don't have to go to shitty job fairs because they are canceled
>EPLel might get canceled so Liverpool won't get their title and people will be able to meme about them having none
>it might free the world from some boomers

Hopefully it gets worse and I'll be able to get state money without having to see the job centre bitch who'll be too paranoid to meet people.

>>14877154
É, confesso que se estivesse em São Paulo eu estaria bastante neurótico agora. Não sabia isso do chefe da Secom. Seria lindo se contaminasse o Bozo e o Trump. Se cuide, anão.

>>14877467
>Bozo

>>14876046
I work at a lab at a hospital. My boss said that if I have so much as a stuffy OR runny nose, I should stay home; I've had it on and off for months.

Guess I'll try to finish Thomas Mann's Der Zauberberg.

>>14876604
>a corona lockdown is an excellent opportunity to read some tuberculosis literature by Thomas Mann.
Baserad och Mannpillrad

>>14877467
Seria lindo pelo menos para tomarem alguma providência, sei lá.

Abraço a você, anão.

2022 é Ciro.

High schools weren't closed, and we were just instructed to keep calm and carry on.
If they were to close them down for longer than two weeks, the year would be counted as invalid and everyone would have to do it again, which sounds like a whole load of fun 7 weeks before the university entrance exams.

>>14876777
I’m the same way, I’ve been extremely stressed since Saturday.

Don't know what everyone's fretting about, I'm practically always in "quarantine" if that means having no social contact.

>tfw i think i have corona but the doctors won't test me because i haven't been to italy lately
gonna read the plague by camus

I've caught a heavy flu two weeks ago. My country had just confirmed its first case by then and I didn't contact anyone who has travelled to affected areas. Now I'm okay, but somehow I fear I might have had it and that it has spread much more than is being announced. Hold me anons.

>>14877538
>the plague by camus
Actually his best book. The Stranger gets an unwarranted amount of attention.

>>14876046
>tfw after a few months of unemployment, just started a new job

>>14877539
Sorry, it's too late. You will have to repopulate earth.

>>14877075
Kill people coming back from Italy as well, all the cases in my country are idiots who just got back (Mexico). The count is suspiciously low because our health system is a joke. I have tons of books, water, food and medicines at home. Animal Crossing comes out in 9 days. I'm ready.

>>14876604
t. poonas

>>14876046
School is very close to being cancelled. I’m gonna start reading a bit more and maybe work on that book of mine.

It is affecting my life in one way and one way only, and that is that all the retarded normies are now talking about this, and only this, for the past few weeks.
They will continue to do so until the hype is over, and in a year from now, when this has faded from public conciousness, they will not even remember it, and will give you weird looks if you bring it up.
The ones who are screaming about it the loudest, will forget first.
Also, good real life memes (walking up to my coworkers and coughing real loud).

>>14876046
It isn't, because our government is doing fuck all about it

>>14876046

Working remotely. More time to write music.

>>14877839
Want to bet? I think it will affect you in several ways, specially economically. Hopefully you won't get it yourself, but people you love might and you'll feel bad for it. One year from now you'll feel retarded for pretending this is not a serious issue, you'd probably cope by pretending you always knew it was going to be big.

>>14877863
I'll take my chances, thank you!

>>14876058
Peak comfy. I wish you health, anon.

school has moved online, so im going to try to waste away on the internet less and read a lot more. i have stacks on stacks on stacks of books, and no excuse to leave my apartment anymore

>>14876079
I did. I don't remember much except it didn't seem to have a point. But that's Carver. Or maybe it was too subtle for me.

>>14876046
>already infected
>poor as dirt, not much in savings, just recovered from my last financial disaster (paid off 10k in debt in less than 1 year and recovered 8k of savings) and now this hits. I'm in between jobs and was working as a temp, which now I can't even go to, and I'm trying to convince the boomer boss that I can work from home, because otherwise his business is going to grind to a halt when noone shows up for work.
>read
I have too much shit to do. Still trying to get a better job and a better career and a better life. every time i get on my feet i get punched right in the face again.

>>14876046
it's mostly giving me a brain aneurysm from normalfags who are adamantly denying that 2 months ago they were laughing and saying it was fake news and are now maintaining they always took it seriously.

These people literally rewrite their memories.

>>14876135
This. I revel in the chaos. The mayhem shall serve as the perfect background for the fulfillment of my designs.

>>14876346
>Everything Was Forever, Until It Was No More
That's a great title. I'll look that up, thanks.

>>14876599
Not OP. Best book I've read this year. I both hope I had read it before and that I could read it for the first time again. Also, checked.

>>14877941
>I revel in the chaos. The mayhem shall serve as the perfect background for the fulfillment of my designs.
Reality: eating cheetos behind a computer screen all day shitposting

>>14877928
Yes, this shit baffles me. Several times I've warned people something bad was going to happen only to be completely dismissed, and yet when it inevitably occurs they somehow believe that they always knew it was going to, or they simply choose to forget that I warned them at all. Similarly with many of girlfriends when I've caught them lying, it's like they truly think they're telling me the truth, they're genuinely mad at me that I could possibly imagine they would do what I'm accusing them of, and then I show them the evidence and it's as if they're surprised to learn they were actually lying.

>>14877913
If you survive, you have a great starting point for writing a book imo. The best authors are those who have faced hardships

>>14877969
Maybe you're even doing that yourself and simply don't remember. Spooky.

>>14876046
I work at a huge research site. They're going nuts trying to split everyone into isolated sub-teams so they won't have to quarantine entire departments. But it's half-assed since everyone can walk around site and meet up outside of work anyway. At least I'll get statutory sick pay if I'm ordered to self-isolate.

>>14876899
It’s not a protestant work ethic. There’s very little real work being done. It’s more like showing up and donning a mask, than work. He (and others) are just bugs, frankly and he fancies himself a Google exec or something taking care to inject jargon and lingo whenever the moment allows. He consooms like a pig and his life is consumption and this thing he calls “work”.

>>14877969
>>14877928
People hate being wrong. The human mind is amazing at hiding that. There is no shame in saying one thought it was not going to be so bad until it was, but people just pretend they didn't do it.

>>14877510
This. It is written. And the neets and the hikikomoris shall inherit the land.

>For the past few decades (almost) the entire planet was on board with the globalization meme
>Zika virus
>It's fine
>Ebola virus
>It's fine
>Corona virus
>THIRD TIME'S A CHARM!!
>GLOBAL PANDEMIC NOW!!
>STONE AGE HERE WE COME!!!

There's a new virus going around?

I'm a construction worker apprentice in an airport, mostly I just do whatever service calls my boss says to. Put an outlet in here, see why this light isn't working, that stuff. With the virus affecting airlines the most, and most of our work coming from servicing a certain airline's VIP lounges, I imagine my life is probably going to change significantly in about a month. There's a guy out here who literally can't do anything because he was in an accident, and he's draining money from the company. To make up for him, since he's working due to the guy above my boss being a compassionate guy, other apprentices and I will probably be moved to work at a hospital closeby since that's also on night shift. Failing that, I'll probably have to move back to day shift, and after a couple of months of that I'll probably end up quitting. I only haven't so far because it's good money and night shift is chill.

>>14878006
It’s a bit more contagious, but yes, a lot of political actors are using it to distract and destruct things.

>>14877990
Even working with such people makes me want to consider ending it. My life is pointless servitude for a bug hive.

>>14878029
Also, as a cover to crash the market and coerce the Fed into launching a bazooka of tax payer cash at Wall Street banks

Work at a secondary school, hypochondriac kids with hypochondriac parents are annoying
Mild asthma is a bit worrying but don't think I'll be anywhere near it tbdesu
School might shut down in a couple weeks, one of my m8s is moving to a different job at just the wrong time

>>14877311
>>EPLel might get canceled so Liverpool won't get their title and people will be able to meme about them having none
>>it might free the world from some boomers
Based

>>14877969
Ive come to the conclusion a lot of people don't actually have a 'model of reality' that they update according to information. Their minds are just a sort of blur and they say stuff because it is the right thing to say for social purposes. Even many intelligent people seem to be this way.

>>14878075
Going beyond basics would make the shit unpractical, since you'd spend more time updating than actually participating. The world is way too complicated to model.

>>14877913
>already infected
What's it feel like, pooranon?

>>14876046
>Are you going to self-quarantine?
I have not really left my house for the past 5 years or so. I guessing this wont change.
>What books are you going to read during that time?
I haven't finished a book this year so far. I've been reading parts of German texts though. So something like that maybe.

>>14876046
They won't shut the high schools down because some of the kids would starve. My little sister is on spring break and all of her little friends are disseminated across the globe just waiting to reconvene and infect everyone. I estimate my town is 2 weeks out from the beginning. What good does it do to cancel uni if you don't cancel primary school too?

>>14878075
>Their minds are just a sort of blur and they say stuff because it is the right thing to say for social purposes.
I feel like this all the time. I'll be in the middle of my day and snap out of it, like I was in a trance the entire day. I realize I've spent the day just reacting to stimuli, not making any conscious decisions about anything, like an animal. Spooky desu

>>14876046
i have 100 grams of weed i'm not gonna read shit

>>14878160
Are you a hikikomori living in your parents basement? Do they feed you through a hole in the door? Genuinely curious.

It's not, really. Not sure what my local hobby store will be doing (where I also work part time) and that's the only place I go besides shopping. I'm somewhat prepared but will need to get some more food before the normies start panic buying canned goods. Going to get some more dog food for my two dogs and probably go to IKEA for a case or two of knackerbrod.

After all that I'm probably bugging in. Allergies thanks to pollen make me feel like I'm going to get COVID-19 for some reason. Just paranoia.

>>14878230
I'm basically a hik. I live with my mom but I pay her rent. I got the money through savings/inheritance/insurance. I move around the house freely and eat primarily in the kitchen.

>>14879162
and how old are you? why are you a hiki? ugly, fat, autistic?

>>14876046
So far my schools spring break has been extended a week. I have a feeling before that's up they're gonna go online, but we'll see.

>>14876046
not at all, I'm just gonna get that shit and overcome it, and then go back to normality

>>14880130
I don't think many of us are worried about the disease itself. If I get it, I'm not gonna die from it. But the societal chaos that is gonna hit us very very soon will be pretty unprecedented.

>>14877976
>The best authors are those who have faced hardships
haven't i suffered enough?
>>14878126
breathing started to get harder, still not coughing though. lung irritation. i cough if i breath really deeply. sort of a rumble in my chest when i breath deep-ish. feel weak, some body aches. my immune system is going insane, lymph nodes are swelling, other bodily issues are mounting. got a cyst that just started going berserk overnight. not on my face at least.

staying home today and tomorrow. i'll reevaluate on monday my need for money versus my desire to rest so i wont literally fucking die. being poor is just great. all of humanity deserves to die for creating this lifestyle of wageslavery and struggle while you have "crazy rich asians" and similar useless mouths with literally all of the fucking money. maybe communists are right. the wealth gap is just too great.

>>14880130
it's not actually clear how bad it is. There are countries like Singapore and South Korea that seem to have managed it so well that it is hardly an issue there, if we are to trust what they're reporting. Then there is China, which tanked its economy to deal with it, so obviously it was a big fucking problem there, though they're now saying it's under control. Again we can't really be sure if it is or not. Then there are the new countries with epidemics, Italy and Iran foremost. They are also reacting alarmingly seriously, but being as it has spread to such a low percentage of their populations it's very hard to say what could happen in the future.

One thing is clear to me, that this is not normal, this didn't happen with any other pandemic in living history. Even the Wuhan lockdown almost two months ago was not seen in the disease scares of the past 20 years, so it has already been abnormal for a while.

I don't believe any particular conspiracy theory about the situation, because none of them has any more evidence than the trickle of memes we've been given by the press and government organizations since January, but there is something off about it all. If all it was going to do was kill some very old and sick people why would countries be responding this way? They hardly give a shit about other dangers to those populations.

>>14876046
>>14876058
>I’m the anon who had cancer
Got immunosuppresion considerations to take myself, been popping C60 & nanosilver honey lozenges and cracking open KJV for the first time in far too long. Get well anon.

I work at a couple of low profile high income highrises around DC. Although, yes, the majority of the public will have coronavirus, I will not. :)

>>14876058
Best of luck Anon.

I have over 1T of anime and TV shows and stacks upon stacks of esoterica, religion, and philosophy books. Is that enough to wait out the apocalypse?

>>14876046

What are we going to do with those recovered with antibodies to not prevent them from getting it again?
Seems like a lose lose scenario right?

>>14876046
https://discord.gg/GP3TTYC

The young and healthy have little to worry about.

I would advise procuring a loan in this extreme low interest rate environment, then using the funds to purchase equities.

>>14880189
>Singapore and South Korea

Singapore like Hong Kong put the entire island in shut down early into the crisis. That's the upside to high density living and an authoritarian state lol. SK was doing well but they've had an outbreak in Seoul just today or yesterday, so expect things to get worse there before they get better.

>>14876307
Fuck dude me too, what do you do?

>>14876809
>authorities are like "heh it's nothing"
>crowded disorganized place
20 bucks says you live in Mexico City. Am I right, anon?

>>14876046
Work a wageslave job on a uni campus where the classes are being suspended until right before finals. Ultimately not a big deal but a lot of the people working there are uni kids who probably aren't coming back to work this semester which actually really bummed me out since I genuinely really enjoy working with some of them and since I have no intention of staying there until the fall that means I'll probably never get to see them again. Of course I knew I wouldn't be staying there forever but I was hoping to work with those kids a little longer and get to say goodbye to them on my own terms. Honestly, it probably made me a little more depressed than it should.

As far as reading I'll obviously still be working so nothing beyond what I already had planned right now (Ulysses and Anna Karenina).

>>14876046
i'm pretty sure i have it. i have a sore throat, shortness of breath and my eyes hurt. i don't care though. i want to die.

>>14876046
This shit has finally started to make me fucking paranoid. Perhaps it's justified, given that the authorities in Mexico are doing jack shit about it. I mean, if Italy shat its pants over getting hit the way it did, I can't help but shudder to imagine what might happen in a fucking mess of a city like Mexico City. I fear for my parents. I've been working from home and will probably continue to do so for the foreseeable future. And fuck using the subway and all of that. I'll only leave the house if I have to and will Uber literally everywhere. Depending on how things go, maybe I'll tell my parents to just stay home, too. They're retired, so it should be no problem. I can run the errands after work. Holy shit am I going crazy?

Anyway, currently reading Awakenings by Oliver Sacks. Quite fitting. It's about the sleeping-sickness (encephalitis lethargica) pandemic of 1917.
>In the ten years that it raged, this pandemic took or ravaged the lives of nearly five million people before it disappeared, as mysteriously and suddenly as it had arrived, in 1927.

The victims were described as follows:
>They would be conscious and aware – yet not fully awake; they would sit motionless and speechless all day in their chairs, totally lacking energy, impetus, initiative, motive, appetite, affect or desire; they registered what went on about them without active attention, and with profound indifference. They neither conveyed nor felt the feeling of life; they were as insubstantial as ghosts, and as passive as zombies: von Economo compared them to extinct volcanoes. Such patients, in neurological parlance, showed 'negative' disorders of behaviour, i.e. no behaviour at all. They were ontologically dead, or suspended, or 'asleep'--awaiting an awakening which came (for the tiny fraction who survived) fifty years later.

>>14880279
What do you do? I work at a Uni as well.

>>14876046
I'm deciding whether to do a PhD or start working but both are currently being hampered since I want to meet people and universities are closing, and few are willing to hire at this time. For the time being I'll keep being a NEET as long as I can. I have a bunch of short stories I've been meaning to read (Joyce, Borges, etc)

>>14876046
Self-quarantined. Trying to read some books while waiting for this shit to blow over.
Family and friends are fucking me over though by not letting me be and insist on visiting me, I do not know if they're infected so I'm freaking out over them.

>>14880271
Not that anon but I live in Mexico City and you are right. I hope AMLO gets the corona while I stay all cozy in my room, reading all day.

>>14880378
Imagine all the people who have to take the subway every day. If they don't get the virus, they die smashed between two trains like in Tacubaya. Sucks that you have to work, since I didn't have school anyway because FFyL is still on strike, I can self-quarantine for weeks.

>>14880603
Wasn't there only one confirmed death? I get what you mean, though. I just can't help thinking this is willy-nilly gonna blow up soon. The cacas isn't taking this shit seriously enough.

That self-quarantine sounds comfy as fuck, though. What are you studying at FFyL?

>>14880632
Yeah, I'm glad there wasn't more deaths, but it could happen again. And yep, didn't he say that we should be hugging each other? God, I hate him. I'm studying English Lit.

>>14876046
My girlfriend started coughing a day after getting home from a trip to the south (we live in northern Sweden), so we have decided to stay home for a while. Don't think it is the coronavirus though, it seems like she only has a normal cold and I don't feel ill at all. And its been a week.
Since we can't go to uni, I have had the time to read a lot. Currently finishing Tolkiens Fall of Gondolin

>>14880661
>she only has a normal cold and I don't feel ill at all. And its been a week.
It takes couple of weeks to be able to tell if you have it or not. That's why it's kind of a problem, people can't tell if they're infected and they go on and infect more people.

>>14880645
>English Lit chilango student on /lit/
Based.

Godspeed, mexanon. Good luck with your studies, whenever the strike ends. Hope we both make it.

>>14880676
Yeah. Hence why we will stay home atleast until the end of next. Stocked up on food before all this shit got crazy to last for two months so it should be good.

>>14876046
Not at all so far.

>>14877913
Stop being american

>>14877141
t. shook amerimutt

My unversity has canceled face-to-face classes for the month and turned school into pic related. Pretty depressing desu, I like it there and don't like being home. I really hope we start back up again for April.
Been reading Hunger and Roadside Picnic
>>14876058
were you posting in /int/ too? Good luck man

I am 24 but suffer from Rhematoid Arthritis, genuinely very worried about all this. My immune system is already attacking my joints so to get an infection which forces it to attack my lungs as well does not sound optimistic. Hopefully my youth and physical health/fitness should keep me alive, but I dunno man. I stopped taking my immune suppressants a couple of months ago for this exact reason, but The jury is still out on how all that shit affects the virus

>>14880378
One of the first outbreaks in London was because a dumb bugwoman took an Uber to hospital and went straight up to members of staff without following any official precautions. Don’t take Uber’s, just cycle with a face mask

They canceled all my classes and exams I have 5 weeks to just fuck about and do nothing
I'm reading Secret History by my wife Donna Tartt
stay safe kings

This had made me appreciate life in a way I would have never imagined.

Coronavirus isn't real and you're stuck in a masonic LARP
Sometimes they call it a simulation but it's more of a LARP

>>14881688
>were you posting in /int/ too? Good luck man
I only post on /lit/ and /fit/. Thank you for the well wishes though, my man. How is Roadside Picnic? I would like to read it someday.

>>14880188
>being poor is just great. all of humanity deserves to die for creating this lifestyle of wageslavery and struggle while you have "crazy rich asians" and similar useless mouths with literally all of the fucking money. maybe communists are right. the wealth gap is just too great.

It sucks how effective the slavery is, that even the slaves don't really notice it until moments when it's really stark.

I wonder if we could get back to the point that the average working person wants to guillotine the parasite classes.

>>14881688
I finished this game yesterday. I think stalker will be next game I will play. No school till April, I just stay home. I have large backlog of vidya and books stashed. Currently reading Hume, and Barber's Bayesian Reasoning and Machine Learning, working on my algotrading bot too, peak comfy desu

>>14876920
How you got bookstore job?

>tfw my uni is considering moving exams online
>I have no idea if it’ll close
>I hate working from home because there are too many distractions

What do I do if everything shuts down? I need some place away from home where I can do work or else I don’t get work done.

>>14877075
Okay, all my classes got canceled. Fuuuck. I tough this shit was not going affect me, but I was wrong.

>>14880188
nice dubs. You probably have, but sadly neither you nor me can control the world like that

My classes at college have moved to online, not going to campus anymore
Still have to go to my stupid retail job though

My AA meeting is closing until further notice.

>tfw nyc

>>14877544
Agreed. His philosophy is also not particularly great. The Plague is the one worth reading.

>>14876058
Nice choices, anon. I hope you get well

>>14883112
>His philosophy is also not particularly great.
I like him because he doesn't feel like some towering philosophical genius or something. He feels closer to "our" level, like he's in this with us together.

>>14882989
I rarely drink but I got a handle of vodka in case I have to be in my house for weeks.

Should have ordered more books before this shit kicked off. No I don't know if my books will be packed by some horrendously underpaid monkey in a warehouse who can't afford to be sick at home.

>>14883165
Just wipe the books down with a lysol wipe or something

>>14883165
...or order from overseas with slow shipping, the virus shouldn't survive two weeks.

>>14877126
És do pampa gaúcho, meu caro?

>>14876046
I'm happier and more energetic than, well, ever. The hype is getting me.

>lot less asscunts at work
>they would have to arrest me if I had it
>prob just the Bible

lol heathen terrified

My uni has closed down. Less stuff to buy at the grocery. The books tore is still open though and has been having a week-long sale.

>>14877500
I’m assuming you’re not in the US? No way could they make seniors retake their final year, as many American schools are in the process of sending out acceptances and have been for some time. If any district tried pulling that here, all of us teachers would be out a job since schools would be burned down

>>14876046
It's great. I'm getting $750 from the govt and everyone's staying home and ordering food which means more work for me (uber eats).

>>14883622
Nah. Hungary.
But they closed the schools down starting Monday. They'll try holding classes "digitally".

>>14881705
god bless anon, sorry you have to deal with this

>>14882432
How are you implementing your bot? I've been looking into building one as a side project especially since I'll have some extra time now. How do you get around the limit for US citizens on day trading without an account over $25k?

>>14880402
Cashier at a fast food place that's in the unis student center.

The small business I work for has a decent chance of going under or at least drastically reducing my work load

Looks like I was hoarding books for my future neetdom all along. It might be time to tackle Gibbon or something else obscenely long.

>>14876046
University closed yesterday, I have packed my bags full of books, alcohol, and food. I'm on my way to my family's house in the countryside where I'm planning to stay until all of this is over

is there literally anything to worry about? i have not payed attention to the world and its dealings in quite some time, but my boss (the only person i know/talk to) is getting all worked up.

Like a lot of people here, I imagine, I've moved to online classes. I'd like to use this time to read more philosophy, but to be honest, I've been pretty dead.

Can anyone give me their best tips for motivation to read when you're feeling dead?

>>14884829
From what we've been told, if you're elderly or have bad health conditions, you're fucked. Otherwise, you have a high chance of contracting the disease in public spaces, but you'll recover like you would from a regular flu.

>>14884863
a plague that only affects boomers? how is this a bad thing?

>>14876046
>>14884850
i can't believe nobody in this thread as mentioned the diary of Samuel Pepys, the guy who lived through ThEGREAT PLAGUE and tHE GREAT FIRE .... I gave this radio adaptation a whirl last night, it's pretty good,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvnjh-sQcgU

I had planned on reading some of the plays from the time, the bawdy satires of Restoration England ...but unsurprisingly there's very few to be found online anymore, let alone actual acted pieces.

>>14876046
I say, Moomin, shall we hunt and fuck Snorkmaiden and Little Mi? To kill the time?

*moomin claps and nods*

>>14884863
this. but it's really anything that will make it much worse.
asthma, smoking habits, drinking heavily, other diseases, old age, etc.

worse part is young athletes are dying globally too.
take precautions.

>>14884912
>dying bad!!!

>>14884870
who's been propping up the economy all this time? People complain about old people but most of the people I know - who are adults with jobs - are constantly borrowing money from their parents just to pay the bills because they don't earn enough - or are paying off stupid shit.

I've always said these younger adults coming into some money and pissing it away on retard-cars and dumb holidays is about the most fucking dumb retard thing there ever was. Dreamworlds of grandeur these boobs.

.... anyway

Just another sad fact about the amazing economy that nobody ever admits to.

>>14883631
lol hands up who knows what Welfare Fraud is?

>>14883757
>How do you get around the limit for US citizens on day trading without an account over $25k?
because he only has 35 cents to trade 'with', anon, obviously.. :)

>>14884937
the economy was fine and it had nothing to do with boomers, they were born at an opportune moment. they then purposefully gutted everything to make it so the next generations were left nothing.

they aren't propping up shit, it was fine, they hollowed it out, and now that they're dying it's left to the rest of the world to pick up slack and eat shit.

>>14884937
>who's been propping up the economy all this time?
literally millennials and vanguard zoomers who slave away for pennies that just go towards loans.

>>14884956
Denial: Total Lies

When production was moved overseas and IT jobs followed, that was the death. Opportune Moment and all, sure, but they built the countries back up with the help of actually good government policies like Roosevelt.

>>14884967
who moved those jobs overseas? literally fucking boomers who didn't want to pay fair wages in their country, but love to complain about how "nothing is made in the homeland! boo!"

>>14884967
and that's my point, roosevelt did it, boomers benefited, they became conservatives who hated BIG GOVERNMENT, and gutted everything the New Deal built.

>>14884960
no, that's the gammy leg, it's grandma and granddads pension which is propping that up with a stick, if you follow

>>14884977
>who moved those jobs overseas?
well maybe, but i remember it was my parents generation in the middle 90's who were cheering all that stuff on, clinton and blair, etc. without a clue or care for what it would mean for them later, and us now.

>>14884979
>boomers benefited, they became conservatives who hated BIG GOVERNMENT, and gutted everything the New Deal built.
partly.. I mean, the Revenues Act of 1935 AND 1936 addressed all these same problems: if the companies don't want to employ people, the government will, so they hired people who wanted to work, that's where a lot of early tv and radio and theatre actually came from.

Guess what though, over the next fifty years the "business people" started undoing all of that because they hated to pay any tax.

ed.
>>14884993
as well as the first nuclear plants, public roads, electrical projects, water, etc etc. That's almost literally when everything got built.

>>14884937
>the economy

Everything is still fine. Enough food but retards are making it difficult to purchase toilet paper, tuna, meat, and milk. I feel like drowning some of you.

>>14885119
>he wipes

>>14885125
Do you have a bidet or something? Do you like it? What model?

>>14885119
>toilet paper, tuna, meat, and milk.
hahaahahahahaha
if that's the diet of some people, damn

what do they do? mash the paper in a skilet and set it on fire to flavor the fish?

>>14885146
nah

>>14885154
Huh? If this is an attempt at comedy, you have failed miserably.
>>14885156
So you just have a shit covered ass.

>>14885154
If you Goin to stock up on something it should be rice and beans

>>14885166
>Huh? If this is an attempt at comedy, you have failed miserably.
It's just a statement of contempt for the culinary apparent limitations of my peers, who never learned how to feed themselves and resort to cans of fish and cow milk, as if they were such and such in some such place, here's a picture from victorian england of a lady eating from a tin, you get the idea.

on that persons behalf
>>14885166
>So you just have a shit covered ass.
Better than a shit covered brain.

>>14885174
>If you Goin to stock up on something it should be rice and beans
I hyerd dat, missah williamsan(!)

Like, wtf, what about vegetables? I've lived on spinach for years. It's a common and locally sourced delicacy.

>>14885176
Canned tuna is good and so is milk.

>>14883220

Não sou ele, mas sou do pampa gaúcho. Moro em Campo Bom. Inclusive aqui foi uma das cidades que tiveram um caso confirmado, mas no momento está tudo tranquilo. Não sei como vai ser nos próximos dias.

>>14885221
check the label, if it say Wuhan Fisheries..

haw haw wound-eye, gwut yewow agwain!

>>14885234

>>14885221
in the 21st century we get our omega oil in pill form. and our calcium in pill form.

>>14876058
what did you read to get cancer? The Foundation of Exploration?

>>14884850
Just read anyway

If you only read when you're motivated you're always going to look for excuses.

>>14880189
>There are countries like Singapore and South Korea that seem to have managed it so well that it is hardly an issue there
That doesn't mean that is not an issue. All the sacrifices made to stop the virus are the issues now. For how long can they last?
>press and government organizations since January, but there is something off about it all. If all it was going to do was kill some very old and sick people why would countries be responding this way?
Because part of that population include personal from hospital. In my country, there are hospitals full, it is not possible to go there. Without strong measures. It won't be possible to go to a single hospital for months.

has anybudy done this yet?

>>14876046
I still need more money to fuck more bitchies.

It couldn't be better for my writing life. I've appointed myself like the scribes of old to document the plague months. Something about it has awakened an intense creative urge in me, I feel there is so much work to do be done, and I no longer have even the figment of a reason to tell myself that I'm acting crazy by doing it because don't I have to be a good boy careerist. I am being given a beautiful chance to grow my beard out to wizard proportions and scribble away absurdly at my tomes.

Chad here ready for the apocalypse.

>>14876046
My school is closed sin tuesday, my lab in school also. In last 3 days i played 30h of warframe. I am so bored.

I'm studying for two classes that are now online and I haven't read much else except imageboards and news articles. I'll binge on some Kurosawa and then read some doomer porn nonfiction.
I honestly welcome if this spectacle were to get worse so that I may find an opportunity to be useful in alleviating it on a micrscopic scale or even get infected myself. I have a really sick mind. Also, the census won't be cancelled and I'll be in training by the end of March. I hope to live in interesting times. The vapidity of existence sometimes demands suffering to negate it.

>>14886127
It will last until most people have gotten it. What is the endgoal is to lower the rate of infection so that the hospitals can cope with those that become sick. In essence, imagine a graph that represents infections per time. It will grow exponentially at first but eventually it will peak once the rate that the virus infects is not enough to sustain it, then that number of infected decreases after that peak. The goal is to spread out that graph -- to flatten the peak and stretch it over time so that the peak is never above the capacity of hospitals to deal with it.

Also, the death rate of this virus is higher than the swine flu of '08 and spreads much faster. These pandemics are not equivalent.

Crisis is thrilling. I am called to make use out of such unusual times. My thoughts have been racing over uncountable strands of possibility. I am reconstructing every assumption, reevaluating my steps. I I've come up with this idea that crisis has a tutoring effect. And I find liberation in that this is a global crisis, my own individuality phased out of the equation. I am learning something. I am sure it is tutoring my personal principles and (big if) perhaps species-consciousness as a whole. Personally, it has highlighted and drawn to attention the shame of my own past inertness, the vile indifference that comes with a comfortable powerlessness. It has made me not want to take anything for granted which has somehow made the whole earth bloom in my mind like some sacred jewel. Now own thoughts gaze firmly at me like a stern but evenhanded father. I need to be a man. Crisis, or the prospect of a crisis, has sharpened into my inner sight a keen razors' edge of awareness of the value of life. I see my past depression as a decadence . I had feasted on the shapeless fluff of meaninglessness, indulged in a comfortable hopelessness that was robbing me of the fullness of being. I'm more motivated than ever to be who I should be.

>>14886127
>>14886260
The problem needs to be framed to be about the response to the virus being the cause for concern over and above the virus itself. In other words, civilization is one big creaky compounding of regularities and habits and short-term predictable patterns. The virus has sent this reliable sequence of patterns into disarray, and now that disruption is the problem, the virus and its clinical burden is now just one frontline in a wider war of how to cope with massively increased uncertainty and instability in the world order. The domino effect is in play. Carefully coordinated and balanced systems have been knocked out of sync, and the variance between those coordinates must be minimized to maintain the correct integrity of the civilizational order in perpetuity.

Civilization rests on the employees for which critical infrastructure depends. If nobody is collecting the trash because they all have a debilitating flu, soon problems much bigger than the virus will cascade.

Using China or South Korea's status as a benchmark is flawed, because the virus has now been engaged as a globally reactive phenomenon, piggybacking and thriving on existing networks. Social distancing and shutting down those connections is critical to keep the reactivity to a minimum , so that previously cleared places aren't continually reinfected. But at the same time the critical through-line of fundamental infrastructure and life support systems must not be impacted. This is a skeleton that undergirds the entire global network, and the fear is that if the virus can ride this very one channel we need to keep open, it will become very difficult to extinguish.

>>14886352
This makes me wonder if the virus will even subside though and how long it will take. Assuming the virus becomes an annual thing, won't we have to deal with this disruption every year from now on?

>>14876803
The way people are reacting is hysterical. The increase in precautions, etc is probably necessary, but panic-buying is not necessary.

>>14876046
It's given me time to try and get right with God. Read the scriptures and pray. God have mercy on us.

>>14877165
You're already dead

corona virus is for faggots

>>14886533
wrong deadly disease, anon

>>14886559
1) its not deadly
2) its boring
3) its probably not even real

Really betting on coronavirus to get worse in my south american shithole country so they cancel uni. I have an important exam next week that I reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaallllllly don't want to take. Hurry the fuck up niggers

>>14886630
You were born in the wrong hemisphere frogposter

>>14876046
I'm going to read sci-fi trash till I coof to death.

>>14886630
good luck bro, here in europe they just cancelled all my exams yesterday
feels really fucking good i wasn't studying at all

>>14886659
thanks eurobro

They cancelled all exams and lectures for the coming month. Sadly they also closed the uni gym. I now have nothing to do but shitpost and play vidya.
Also I lost like 20% on my portfolio

>>14886678
You could read

>>14886682

Books are for nerds

>>14886687
Having a portfolio makes you a nerd too, might as well give in and crack open that Tolstoy

>>14886693

ok anon you convinced me. I shall read

>>14886389
The limiting factor would be the development of immunities. The reason it's causing so much havoc is that it's a new strain and there are no built up immunities. The secondary immune system is programmable and just needs exposure to the pathogen to develop the appropriate customized antibodies.

Once a specific key number of individuals are immune, herd immunity phenomena are exhibited which sharply curbs the infection rates.

You can even collect the blood of people who have recovered and extract the antibodies, the "convalescent serum" to speed up the process.

It's not.

>>14876058
Hi anon, sorry but as per the rules of the website, you have to be called a faggot at least by one answer in eight.

Get well soon, faggot.

>>14884912
>worse part is young athletes are dying globally too.
Remember spanish flu? A HUGE number of 18-25 year olds died because their immune system was too healthy, and when the virus redirected it at themselves, they couldn't cope.

That's not to say that this will be the same, however. The fact that its almost entirely older or vulnerable people dying would imply that you're likely better off with a stronger immunity.

>>14886938
Thank God that I'm 26

>>14876777
>what is exponential growth
you can expect the number of cases in your country to increase by one order of magnitude every two weeks. the difference between 40 and 4000 cases is just one month.

>>14876058
God be with you.

>>14887193
>Thank God that I'm 26
If only your father had pulled out altogether you'd be safe from it completely(!)

>>14876803
The fact we, who live in completely different countries have the exact same reaction is worrying. You'd expect different cultures to react differently to this kind of problem but instead the whole world is in sync. If there were some global elites trying to control us this would be very convenient for them.

>>14886659
Same, I also used coronavirus as an excuse to talk to a qt on facebook. Hope I can meet her for real soon.

>>14876046
Honestly you people laugh at toilet paper hoarders, but you really dont have enough toilet paper yourselves. The average person uses 1 roll per day. If you have a family of 4, that's 28 rolls a week. Over 100 a month. TP rolls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it.

>>14876803
>kills less people than the flu
>"but the numbers of sick people are going up! ignore the fact that a statistically insignificant amount of people are dying from what is essentially a fancily named flu!"
it is hysteria. artificially inflated by the media, and used as a pretext to completely fuck the world market and pump the economy full of new money. enjoy your inflation while you spread propaganda for the aristocracy.

>>14888188
Can you explain me how the fuck one person spends one roll per day

I've been self quarantined for the last decade

>>14888228
Absolute numbers don't mean shit. What matters is the rate of transmission and mortality, and in both of those respects corona is doing pretty well.

>>14876554
Based. I plan to finish up the third volume (which is the only volume I've read from so far, kek) and read "The Good Soldier Svejk" if I'm quarantined.

>>14876433
>>14888228
Smol brain take. This virus does absolutely no favors to the elite, whose wealth is a function of globalism and commerce, those very activities that this virus threatens. The media itself is probably the only one to benefit, as fear is a good resource to keep themselves afloat while everyone else drowns.

>>14876046
Reading the New Testament. On the book of Luke right now.

>>14876046
I was supposed to go to China to stay with friends in February, bought my ticket in December. Obviously that's not happening now so I've been laid up at home playing the stock market since late January, spending all my time warning friends and family about the coming effects of the virus on the food supply, markets and economy only for it to fall on deaf ears until now.

I'm so disgusted by the incompetence of economic and public health authorities that I've just been trying to focus on taking advantage of all this free time I've had (and will have) and not to think about it too much, been working out, reading and listening to lots of nostalgic music. Also consuming large amounts of drugs and alcohol.

I'm honestly concerned about the virus because my dad is immunodeficient, so that's why I feel more personally invested than I normally would in this.

>>14888228
>no vaccine
>asymptomatic transmission
>long incubation period
>relying on Chinese govt statistics for death rate
>virus can still mutate

contrarian midwits like you will be the end of us

>>14888829
you sound like the biggest fucking faggot

>>14883220
Sim, na fronteira oeste. Espero que nenhum argentino puto atravesse a ponte e venha me infectar.

>>14888838
thanks I am gay actually

>>14888699
>absolute numbers don't mean shit
yes, they do, because if it ultimately only kills a few thousand, then statistically it's nothing. do you care more about shark attacks or pneumonia? personally i don't warn people to not get struck by lightening when they go out, i tell them to drive safe. peak media-minded fearmongering.

>>14888813
>does no favors to the elite
then you haven't been watching the market. cheap stocks for the taking by panicked retards and tons of fresh "liquidity" (money) "injected" (created out of thin air) into the market courtesy of the fed (at the cost of inflation for the working jackoff). the money makers live for chaos like this and speculative fear drives it.
>"well the rate of infection says it COULD kill a lot of people, despite the fact that this has killed a fractional amount of people compared to the flu, i choose to panic at the behest of media programming"

>>14888833
>random bot talking points
>doesn't mention the marginal amount of people actually killed
>"the ebil chinese are covering it up"
how about the fact it's killed like what, 55 people in the states? are we covering it up to?

since when do shills rely on conspiracy theories? i thought that makes you schizo.

>>14888848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN0vtqJxbPc

>>14888188
Stop reposting /sp/ meme posts.
Love, /sp/ anon.

>>14889061
It won't just kill a few thousand, because it will reach a lot of people. It's really really, and I mean really infectious compared to the flu (and just about every other virus floating around right now), that means that a good portion of the world is liable to catching it. It's a real possibility. Coronavirus's growth is "exponential", but only up to a certain point. Once most become immune to it or other outside factors alter that growth rate, it'll fade away. However, out of those infected, a small but still significant portion will die. But, that's not the real problem... What should really concern us is that if the governments and companies of this world want to contain the virus, they'll have to lower the scale of the logistical capabilities of our societies through a number of measures. This will have a real effect on the economy outside of the stock market. This virus is essentially stress testing the system. Not to mention the measures the government takes or does not take in and of themselves are another cause of concern. This is a double whammy and if you aren't thinking ahead in these terms, you are lost.

Writers and poets of /lit/, are you guys working on anything related to the virus and its effects? I've personally thought about writing a short story about a romance that blossoms in a city under quarantine. I only have vague ideas

Writers and poets of /lit/, are you working on anything related to the plague and its effects? I've had a vague idea for a short story about a romance that takes place in a city under quarantine. Nothing definitive yet, but the very beginnings of the idea are circling around my mind.

>tfw tradecuck working at a basilica with two others guys

>no traffic
>no one else there besides us
>have all my bulk oats, rice, and beans

Hoping I can ride this one out without catching it bois

>>14889200
An essay on the political economics of the outbreak has been formulating in my head the past couple days. Its status as a singularity means that it is a unique information signal of profound consequences. There is also some more esoteric philosophical implications to be drawn from this circumstance where everyone in the world's consciousness is drawn to this one subject. It has a universalizing effect that must be parsed out.
No real fiction planned though.

>>14876046
I'm physically disabled so it doesn't affect me much personally. It's more about seeing the world forced to live like me that's interesting, especially how stupid normies will cope.

I honestly think "social distancing" might be the worst thing to happen to the English language since pundits started using "medal" as a verb during the 2012 London Olympics

>>14889200
Literally been planning a short story set in a UK under lockdown to isolate a biological catastrophe since last autumn and now I'm losing enthusiasm to write it because I know everyone will think I just came up it in response to current events

>>14889200
I don't write asides from embarrassing journal entries however I am writing some music that could be equally embarrassing. Doesn't really matter either way but I do think a lot of substantial work could come out of this situation from other creatives. A lot of shit as well.

>>14889061
>how about the fact it's killed like what, 55 people in the states? are we covering it up to?
>TWO WEEK INCUBATION PERIOD
there I put it in caps so you can read what I said this time. Any statistics you see are behind and the lack of test kits in the US means there are many more who have the virus than can be counted atm. You're fucking dumb man.

>>14889416
rofl, alright man. see you in two weeks. the deaths will be well within average for the flu season. i mean, it's already been making the rounds for that long, and unless you believe a chinese conspiracy theory, then we're still withing the normal amount of deaths for a flu season. shit, how do we even know that the death/infection rate is high given these "lack of tests"? i mean, a related death would still end up in the statistics somewhere. for a lack of tests to work in the narratives favor, people would have to be dropping like flies without anyone noticing. i've also noticed every time i have this conversation, there are always unnecessary insults attached. i suspect you are here to fear monger.

>>14889169
>it could do this
>will in the future
>maybe
i don't buy it. the deaths aren't matching your apocalyptic concern, and the media in the states is a known lie factory. time will prove me right, im content to wait.

>>14889571
Read my post again. Are you a skimmer or a reader? Death isn't the real problem.

>>14887420
I know well. No need to be snarky.

>>14889571
Your position doesn't seem to be based on anything besides incredulity that anything could become that catastrophically serious. Also everything you say betrays a basic misunderstanding of the concept of exponential increase. Also your myopic fixation on the mortality rate is besides the point. A pandemic does not have to kill everybody for it to be a problem.

>>14889896
>it will suddenly become a big deal, trust me
as i said, roflmao. lemme know when even a thousand people have died in the US due to an exponential increase that should have already made itself apparent. mortality does matter, because without it, it's a fucking flu, and if it's at a proportionately low rate now, we can extrapolate that to the hypothetical where more people than ordinary are infected (which i wholeheartedly doubt) a respiratory infection due to a virus that causes complications for the elderly and the weak is a flu. the rest of your crowing is speculative and based on easily manipulated statistics. rate of infection can be completely fucking wrong based on who had access to the test. if our sample is in the thousands, we're working with weak data.

>>14889776
>come to a board
>treat it like /cvg/
>try to blend in poorly
this has been happening all over. I read your post just fine, but im not scared of a flu that MIGHT have a high rate of infection. we have that seasonally, and it usually kills more people. i insist on mortality because it's a good example of how much you ought to be scared of an illness. again, if all it does is give you flu like symptoms for a week and doesn't kill too many people, isn't it a flu in practice? death is the problem, because otherwise you're speculating that this COULD be a superflu.

also, as a postscript to both these "anons" who i suspect are sitting behind desks in an office somewhere in either virginia or california
>sars
>zika
>west nile
>ebola
>swine flu
>mad cow
in a month
>coronanana

>>14889977
>it's a fucking flu
You do realize influenza is one of the most fatal pathogens in history and the only reason you can right it off as "just a flu" is because over centuries everyone without an immunity from that strain is dead and the immunity has since been built up for it? Otherwise it's not "just." You sound like a dipshit Republican with no perspective.

>>14889977
The quarantines in China nearly two months ago should have made you realize this was not comparable to any of those past diseases.

This virus is both infectious(similar to the flu), and much more deadly(at least an order of magnitude, 0.1 to 1% and maybe quite a bit higher than 1% when ICU is overwhelmed by demand). It also causes permanent damage to many organs in people who recover, and there are cases of being being rapidly reinfected by it, meaning they aren't becoming immune. If that can continue indefinitely the CFR will rise dramatically.

The only 'positive' thing here is that it seems to kill the elderly at a way higher rate, but this is hardly a positive for people with older relative, ie. almost everyone. It just means it will fuck up the economy and society in general less.

>>14889977
This disease isn't comparable to any of those and you're too thick to realize the points that these anons are trying to make to you. Being a skeptic doesn't mean being an obstinate retard. I can't recall any time in my life where the flu caused nationwide quarantines and massive economic shocks, as this >>14889169 poster makes clear the economic effects of this are already in the pipeline and recession is inevitable just from China being shut down, now imagine if most world trade and production is shut down as well due to quarantines? Have you ever thought about where your food comes from?

>>14890004
>partisan arguments
desperate. and it's not the most deadly, it's only killed 55 old people in my country. there have been far more deaths due to many other diseases. you are basing that "fact" off of a figure culled from dubious statistics. it absolutely is "just" until there's actual evidence otherwise, not just speculation.

>>14890008
quarantines are the work of bureaucrats and mouthy politicians, and i don't pay them any mind without evidence personally. if that's where you and i part common ground for argument, i understand. again though, it is demonstrably not more deadly as it has killed an insanely low number of people. all you can say is that it kills a RELATIVELY high number of people in contrast to what we have RECORDED as the rate of infection, which is up for debate. in two weeks, if people are dropping like flies in accordance with the given fear-mongering, i would legitimately be surprised.

the economy is functioning as it should, any look into the market will show money flowing upward to the aristocracy, so i agree that it's fucked up, but i rather think this is a wealth grab ala 2008 with the pretext of a rather average illness hyped up beyond reason.

>>14890019
quarantines are effectively political talk without actual deaths to back them up. i don't trust states to not act in a duplicitous fashion. also, china isn't shutdown. some parts are closed down. i think wu han and a few ports if im not mistaken. but im very skeptical that china as a country has tumble weeds rolling down the street.

but i've noticed these phrases in you post
>in the pipeline
>inevitable
>imagine if

i know very well how production of food happens, how it moves and how the market works, i have not seen any cause for alarm yet except for people asking me to be alarmed based on speculation and hypotheticals.

this disease is comparable. it's hyped up beyond reason, with a fairly uneventful mortality rate and fear mongering based, again, on speculation. all of your cause to be alarmed comes from projected statistics, and i don't trust it.

>>14890019
>the economic effects of this are already in the pipeline and recession is inevitable just from China being shut down, now imagine if most world trade and production is shut down as well due to quarantines?
This was already happening due to failed economic policies, massive devaluation of the currency, hoarding of money by stock people, etc etc.

We've been in recession since at least 2009, and depression since 2014. The West has taken no action at all to bring any kind of paying work or production back so that we could actually support ourselves nationally.

Don't forget, it's the clintons and blairites who wanted it this way, so we're all "dependent on each other" and there was no danger of wealth being in the hands of anybody but the creditors.

Also quarantines have never worked on these things, it just has to run its course like the other dozen asian flu epidemics in the last century.


Let's hope it forces people, especially in America, to rethink their absolutely stupid healthcare system and our "open borders, bring 'em in, damn the economic and medical consequences!" bullshit AND it would be wise to start again focusing on national production like agriculture and manufacturing, instead of being reliant on shipping our dog food from half way around the planet.

>>14890096
>quarantines are the work of bureaucrats and mouthy politicians, and i don't pay them any mind without evidence personally.
I do pay it attention when it's tanking china's economy. That's revealing no matter what is said that they would choose to do that. There could be conspiratorial reasons they'd choose to do that but that is an added dimension of uncertainty.

>the economy is functioning as it should, any look into the market will show money flowing upward to the aristocracy, so i agree that it's fucked up, but i rather think this is a wealth grab ala 2008 with the pretext of a rather average illness hyped up beyond reason.
That I can buy. It makes sense. But it is only one of several hypotheses that could explain the situation, and none of them has something approaching rigorous evidence.

>>14890144
my focus is on the truth concerning the illness. with that pretext in place, concerning things can happen- but they're the result of greed and malice is my suspicion. chinas economy dipping, our market deflating then being injected with inflationbux, the natural fallout of cutting things like the price of oil in half out of speculation etc, but these are the works of the moneyed elite, not evidence of the reality of a "pandemic". we've wanted to get away from china as the primary source of production, for example, and i wouldn't be surprised at all if this is a test run for getting the factories to other countries. maybe within a few years time.

my point is that there's a concentrated effort to keep people's eyes on what, by the numbers, is a pretty benign illness- on 4chan, MSM, etc. meanwhile, your actual topics of concern are happening. i know too much slight of hand to take coronanana seriously with those two coexisting facts. i don't pretend to know more about what is happening other than the disease is honestly not that big of a deal with the present evidence.

>>14876058
>I’m the anon who had cancer
I don't give a shit. Keep your personal life details out of here.

>>14890170
I do believe your perspective makes sense. It is a reasonable explanation of the situation, and I would not be surprised were it or something similar to it true. But I am not sure it is the only one. For one thing we don't actually know how bad the virus is, it is way too early to say anything definite about it, and the one country who has had it for the longest time is basically in media blockout and generally is anyway because it's a totalitarian state. There are some disturbing possibilities with this virus. One is the reinfection of people having been pronounced cured. Another is the damage done even to those with apparently mild symptoms. A third is that the actual fatality rate is not at all clear and varies wildly between different countries, meaning something is not being reported accurately, or countries are lying. Both are probably true, again it is the number of unknowns that is the issue. There are about 50 things that don't add up to me when I look at this entire event since it began in December, and when you relate it to every other issues you need to understand to make predictions about it but that you can't because of the uncertainty of accurate information about them, which is just a constant problem.

Im sure this seems like a 'we cannot know nuffin' post but that's not what im saying. Rather it's that there are several completely plausible possibilties here and I see some of them as being that this actually is quite serious. Many others are that it is not, that much I agree with.

>>14890096
you are retarded, ignorant and overly confident in your ability to understand the global economy or what kind of effect a quarantine has on global supply chains. Think what you want but people much smarter than you or I have been sounding the alarm since January, and that was just on the effect of China's economy being shutdown. The shutdown is slowly being phased out but it wasn't just a few ports and Wuhan, it went from a shutdown of Hubei province to a work and school shutdown across the entire country. Now they are returning to work but numerous epidemiologists' models predict that the infection rate will skyrocket in China again, how the government responds to this is anybody's guess. Now that more border closings, travel shutdowns and national quarantines are occurring the effects on the global supply chain will be disastrous and almost too fast moving to keep up with.

>I don't trust states to not act in a duplicitous fashion
But you trust Chinese government statistics. Lmao at your simp ass. You're calling out other people's empirical reasoning but have no evidence of your own to back up your opinions, which sound half baked at best. I wish I could engineer a virus to kill all midwits like yourself.

>>14890227
>Think what you want but people much smarter than you or I have been sounding the alarm since January,
Yeah, I listened a podcast with a guest raving for a solid hour about how he'd been ignoring all other pandemics xcept this one, because this one is going to end with the Anti-Christ being speared in the chest in the newly built Third Temple and coming back to life o rule the planet by 5G Internet being utilized as a telepathic control grid to transport every human into various other dimensions.

>>14889366
Go ahead and write it. If you can get it published it will be considered incisive and timely, you'll rack up accolades.

I think the most ironic thing is how much money they've all spent on facial-recognition tech in the streets, and how now at least in China and the East, with the masks, that's all become worthless.

>>14890261
nah, it's a bit too soon.

>>14890227
>t people much smarter than you or I have been sounding the alarm since January
not a very good argument though lol

literal schizo happeningfags on /pol/ have been sounding the alarm since December

>>14890259

>>14876046
I literally quite a shitty job on Thursday, on the EXACT DAY that the Corona panic kicked into high gear. I’m a bit nervous now, but I’m honing in on two interesting job opps. I just hope the Corona hysteria doesn’t interfere.

My quarantined lifestyle is the same as everyday life so no harm there

>>14890455
There was plenty of warning so that's not exactly some kind of tragic coincidence. Since this isn't going to kill working age people you chose a pretty poor time to quit.

>>14890227
you're overly emotional. you obviously have an investment in this being true, and i don't trust a word you say. show me the money and i'll believe you. im not asking you to believe me, couldn't give a shit less, just pointing out for any on-the-fence anons the reality of the fact this whole situation has killed few people. in terms of real harm, we're in the same numbers as any other year and that;s a fact. we'll wait and see on the economy: im confident about global trade because i happen to know a thing or two about it, and the main fact i know is that the world economy is the piggy bank of the modern aristocracy. as long as there are supply routes, machines to ship, factories to process and land to produce it, the game of modern economics is going to continue. the alarm has been cyclically raised every decade at least, we just let the numbers get bigger thru Fed fuckery and that's about it. china might be deposed as the leader in factory production. i can see that happening. but the disastrous diatribes you and other anons have given me strike me as unlikely. ive heard it before about bigger issues. 2008, sandbox wars, bailouts from the 70s to now, foreign goings on etc. today is not the today Contagion happens. it just doesn't happen in easily digestible chunks convenient to the news cycle.
>in two weeks the real thing will happen
>here are the daily updates
>look at our pundits go over what could happen in a worst case scenario
i just don't buy it. it's all organized in daily bytes perfect for capitalizing on market reactions. i don't buy your outrage either. you seem disingenuous

>>14890223
you state your shit calmly and i like you. as for the possibilities outlined, we'll wait and see. but id definitely say that composure is a virtue. if we were squaring up with the black plague, i think we'd know it by now. the possibility of countries lying about this event is astute- and above everything else id like to see people be more skeptical like this. i personally refuse to trust a single state figurehead, bureaucrat or talking head.

Community college shut down and I have no job.
Mom’s a nurse at a nursing home so I’m using it all as an excuse to stay home and play OSRS all day everyday. Might read a book or two as well

>>14890482
>you state your shit calmly and i like you.
likewise you've been cordial and responded to what i said calmly, which is more than I can say for most people I've talked to about this, oscillating between mocking disbelief and panicked disregard, seemingly at the constantly shifting behest of what their preferred sources of information told them to think rather than applying any independent and easily formulated analysis to the situation.
>but id definitely say that composure is a virtue.
that I always agree with.
>if we were squaring up with the black plague, i think we'd know it by now
2 months ago when Wuhan shut down I did honestly think it might be black Plague levels. That hasn't happened elsewhere, until very recently in Italy and we seem to be getting better info from them so it the blackplaguetier situation seems like it's very much no longer a possibility. I'm not worried about that anymore. However bad it is it's not that bad.
>he possibility of countries lying about this event is astute- and above everything else id like to see people be more skeptical like this. i personally refuse to trust a single state figurehead, bureaucrat or talking head.
That should just be how we all approach everything but alas it's impossible. Information will never be accurately distributed between people. Not even a loving couple tell each other all the relevant things, let alone the incredibly abstracted global interchange.

>>14890553
>Information will never be accurately distributed between people. Not even a loving couple tell each other all the relevant things, let alone the incredibly abstracted global interchange.
i don't think there's a better possible line to end this thread on. peace anon

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/business/walmart-store-hours/index.html

stay safe, /b/ros.

After I finish Human, All Too Human, I have a significant amount of mathematical research to conduct. I'm quite liking how k theory can bring together algebra, topology, and differential geometry as cohesive parts of a whole.

>>14877116
Have you ever once produced a quality post you kike?

>>14876599
I enjoyed it quiet a lot.
It seems so contemporary.
I want to read other books from Dostoevskij

>>14876600
Unexpectedly I found job in a building material depot.
Maybe I might start the next week.

>>14876046

Grocery store manager, the past week has been interesting. State index case on 3/6, and Ihave a daily game of checking locally reported new cases, I'm fairly good but at the same time I lose interest. In the past 72-ish hours I've noticed a sharp uptick in masks and gloves, worn by all races in a confused, ad-hoc way. I myself have been emotionally rattled because shelves are bare, which isn't supposed to happen in America. A Ukranian gentleman mentioned that the sight reminded him of young memories, and I replied that I didn't want to broach the "bread line" trope but it was obvious so I went ahead and said so. As when the power goes out, empty shelves bring out humanity. I've noticed children picking up on the nervousness of the adults (nothing's wrong, sweetie), I've been spending my own nervous energy wiping cart handles and such, waiting for the next truck.

-3/12 was when the first real run was made on our store (consumers had exhausted other options and were now checking us out), and when the general phenomenon became personally, viscerally real for me, for the first time.
-3/13 was the zoo, the local peak. During this zombie apocalypse, I simply emphasized safety, watching the floor for trip hazards and wandering the store looking for safety problems.
-3/14 was the reality following the cleanout, and a lead up to the next truck. I coached customers to come the following morning, and I've been doing an ongoing thing of "see, now the warehouse is out, too" (TP/soap) which is both true and shifts blame a bit (not onto our wonderful warehouse of course, but the general demand situation). People know the score by this point.

On the /lit/ tip, with regard to the new themes about "social distancing" and gearing up for quarantine, which fit very well with my own bachelor isolation outside of work? My impulse-buy of the nice modern library copy of Nietzsche's Thus Spake Zarathustra contains the following line, which I discovered at random while thinking: "Loneliness can be the escape of the sick; loneliness can also be escape /from/ the sick." In The Fall Into Time, Cioran also has some nice stuff about how the ill really want everyone to be as miserable as they are, by complaining to them of their illnesses, crabs-in-a-bucket like.

>>14876046
Working from home, all my programs cancelled, some of the family don't even want to meet as I was abroad a few days ago.

I am using the time to learn some language (Italian and Estonian), so textbooks mostly.
Have some Chine Miévilles lying around that I haven't read yet.
Maybe some comicbooks inbetween.
Also have some lovecraftian fanzines with short stories I might get to.

>>14891490

I was slightly re-thinking a family visit in the next few days but 1) it's already next door to the boomer parents anyway, 2) mom is currently emotionally refusing to acknowledge the situation and 3) I wonder whether movement might become more difficult in the coming weeks so may as well visit the folks anyway.

I've developed a dry cough yesterday.
It was a joy to shitpost with you lads, I'll be in my study reading the bible.

Reporting from Italy, gonna go through some bigger volumes, reading The Power Broker now.
Stay hydrated bros, stockpile canned food and cigs, we're all gonna make it.

>>14891543
>stockpiling cigs during a pandemic that disproportionately kills smokers

>>14884863
Its either a new world order hoax, just a flu or world ending airborn AIDS or a combo of all three

>>14876046
well i found out i have zero idea how to actually tell who's telling the truth and who knows what they're talking about.
what books will help me do that?

>>14876058
i hope you read "the bet", it's very pertinent to your situation

People who say "social distancing" instead of "staying in more often" are the same people who start every other sentence with "So," because they've spent too much time watching TV pundits from London.

>>14876046
I'm translating covid-related medical papers into spanish so no much reading for me
unironically I want to be infected soon so I can help once the shit hits the fan in my country
inb4 ded