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Was Bateman unironically autistic? I just got to the part where he's in the club pretending to be black.

>> No.14868586
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>> No.14868591

>patrick bateman
more like master-bateman lmao

>> No.14869674

>>14868526
lol I forgot about that part. Whereabouts in the story does it take place?
>was he autistic
I think he tries too hard to fit in to be actually autistic. He's always playing a role, and unlike the stereotype of an autist he has a decent grasp of the superficial affectations that other people respond to (how to dress, what to talk about). He also seems genuinely hurt when other people don't respond to him in the way he wants.

>> No.14869732

>>14869674
>Whereabouts in the story does it take place?
It takes place after Evelyn's Christmas party, the same one shown in the movie. He rushes out of the party with Evelyn, steals Paul Owen's limousine and goes to a club where he does cocaine in a bathroom. He wakes up and there's a bunch of black dudes. High out of his mind he tries to fit in and talk black to a guy in front of some girls, but looks like a huge retard. He even calls him a nigger in his head.

>> No.14869804

>>14869732
just found it thanks to your description

>> No.14869820

It's literally called American Psycho. He was not autistic, he was a psycho.

Geez.

>> No.14869844

I changed my mind, he was definitely on the spectrum
>I stick out my hand at a crooked angle, trying to mimic a rapper. "Hey," I say. "I'm fresh. The freshest, y'know… like, uh, def… the deffest." I take a sip of champagne. "You know... def."
>To prove this I spot a black guy with dreadlocks and I walk up to him and exclaim "Rasta Man!" and hold out my hand, anticipating a high-five. But the nigger just stands there.
>"I mean" - I cough - "Mon," and then, with less enthusiasm, "We be, uh, jamming.."
>He brushes past me, shaking his head

>> No.14869967 [DELETED] 

>>14869844
wtf i want to read american psycho now

>> No.14869993

>>14869844
Ellis would undoubtedly have posted on this site had he been born later

>> No.14870905

>>14868526
haven't read the book but the humor of the film comes from bateman trying to fit in an insane world

>> No.14870937

I don't know if he was autistic or not, but these dubs sure aren't!

>> No.14871027

Bateman is literally Bret Easton Ellis except he isn't gay.

>> No.14871784

>>14871027
Ellis doesn't even like Bateman (nor Trump)

>> No.14871802

>>14869993

he was on here last year, but bitched out when he got exposed

>> No.14871821

>>14871802
Was that the thread with the pic of the ugly teeth?

>> No.14871831

>>14869844
>first person and present tense
absolutely disgusting

>> No.14871966 [DELETED] 

>>14871802
bro what?? what happened

>> No.14871991

>>14871821
>>14871966

you should be able to find it if you look hard enough in the archive

>> No.14872097

>>14871784
You only know what Bateman looks like because a casting director picked Bale.

>> No.14872121

>>14872097
read the anon you quoted, only slower this time

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>>14868526
>I start stabbing him in the stomach, lightly, above the dense matted patch
of pubic hair. This sobers him up somewhat and instinctively he tries
to cover himself with his hands and the dog starts yipping, really
furiously, but it doesn't attack, and I keep stabbing at the bum now
between his fingers, stabbing the backs of his hands. His eye, burst
open, hangs out of its socket and runs down his face and he keeps
blinking which causes what's left of it inside the wound to pour out
like red, veiny egg yolk. I grab his head with one hand and push it
back and then with my thumb and forefinger hold the other eye open
and bring the knife up and push the tip of it into the socket, first
breaking its protective film so the socket fills with blood, then
slitting the eyeball open sideways, and he finally starts screaming
once I slit his nose in two, lightly spraying me and the dog with
blood, Gizmo blinking to get the blood out of his eyes. I quickly
wipe the blade clean across the bum's face, breaking open the muscle
above his cheek. Still kneeling, I throw a quarter in his face, which
is slick and shiny with blood, both sockets hollowed out and filled
with gore, what's left of his eyes literally oozing over his screaming lips in thick, webby strands. Calmly, I whisper, "There's a quarter. Go buy some gum, you crazy fucking nigger."
What did he mean by this?

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>>14868526
>I start stabbing him in the stomach, lightly, above the dense matted patch of pubic hair. This sobers him up somewhat and instinctively he tries to cover himself with his hands and the dog starts yipping, really furiously, but it doesn't attack, and I keep stabbing at the bum now between his fingers, stabbing the backs of his hands. His eye, burst open, hangs out of its socket and runs down his face and he keeps blinking which causes what's left of it inside the wound to pour out like red, veiny egg yolk. I grab his head with one hand and push it back and then with my thumb and forefinger hold the other eye open and bring the knife up and push the tip of it into the socket, first breaking its protective film so the socket fills with blood, then slitting the eyeball open sideways, and he finally starts screaming once I slit his nose in two, lightly spraying me and the dog with blood, Gizmo blinking to get the blood out of his eyes. I quickly wipe the blade clean across the bum's face, breaking open the muscle above his cheek. Still kneeling, I throw a quarter in his face, which is slick and shiny with blood, both sockets hollowed out and filled with gore, what's left of his eyes literally oozing over his screaming lips in thick, webby strands. Calmly, I whisper, "There's a quarter. Go buy some gum, you crazy fucking nigger."
What did he mean by this?

>> No.14872357

>>14871991
Answer this first so I can know what I'm looking for: >>14871821

>> No.14872421

>>14872121
Whoops. On that note, you should hear Ellis talk on his podcast. His life mimics Bateman's.

>> No.14872431

>>14868526
nah, he was BASED

>> No.14872436

>>14872421
Whata a good episode

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>>14872210

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>>14872438
people who don't know how to screenshot should be gassed

>> No.14872559

>>14872508
do cuckbooks even have a printscreen function?

>> No.14872579

>>14872559
you are hopelessly retarded

>> No.14872602
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There are so many scenes in this book that read like a frogposter's fever dream

>> No.14872607

>>14872579
I'm not the one using a cuckbook. If I did, then yea', I'd be retarded. But I'd probably figure out how to screenshot with one.

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>>14872602

>> No.14872810

>>14869967
Why haven't you, everyone recommends it, it's a classic. Just speed read the parts where he describes clothing and you'll see how great it is

>> No.14872820

>>14868526
Urinal cake scene was absolutely hilarious.

>> No.14872822

>>14868526
Bateman? Man that guy's such a little bitch

>> No.14872907

Is the book as good as the movie? I hate reading fiction but maybe I'll try reading this if it's good.

>> No.14872916

>>14868526
No he's a psychopath

>> No.14873013

>>14872508
>>14872559
>>14872607
I'm posting from my phone because my MacBook was provided by my school, and has 4chan blocked.

>> No.14873032

>>14872907
Started reading it this week because I'm on Spring Break. It can feel monotonous in the beginning because of the excruciating detail Ellis describes each piece of clothing or furniture, and the repetitive behavior of the meals Bateman has with the other yuppies. But about a third of the way in it gets really interesting, and there are some scenes that unironically sound like somebody from /pol/ hijacked the story.

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>>14871831
Passive fag detected

>> No.14873074

>>14872907
No near close, the book it's kinda like a "miniseries" of the movie, you get some extended scenes and different scenarios, it doesn't feel like Pat is the same Pat Christian portraits, Patrick in the book is less cold, more bitchy too, fun little read if you really are into the movie though, a lot of it is about clothing brands and descriptions, fun if you are into fashion and aesthetics, obnoxious if you are not

>> No.14873131

>>14872436
Any one. He is a good interviewer. Too bad most of his shit is pay locked on patreon.

>> No.14874530

It's worth remembering that, before the syndrome was named after him, Hans Asperger proposed calling mild autism "autistic psychopathy". There are many similarities between the two conditions which it is not politically correct to notice now.

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>>14868591
>more like master-bateman lmao
*massabatemayne

>> No.14874608

>>14874602
lol is that reviewbrah?

>> No.14874613

>>14874608
i'm retarded, just saw the image name

>> No.14874632

Was Don Quixote unironically autistic? I just got to the part where he fights the windmills.

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>>14871966
>>14873131
>>14872822
>>14869844

>> No.14875331

>>14872810
t. old navy shopper

>> No.14875343

Stop lying anon, you try to sound black when talking to black people too

>> No.14875706

>>14871991
Give me something to work on here

>> No.14876331

>>14868526
He was narcissistic to the point of psychosis, did you watch the fucking movie brainlet?

>> No.14876338

>>14872602
>>14872614
damn this is great. sign me the fuck up

>> No.14876348

>>14872916
Nope, Anton Chigur was

>> No.14876355

>>14868526
>unironically
he wasn't but I might know someone who is...

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>>14868526
No, he was just living with his life full of spooks, but was sociopathic enough to see through them.

>> No.14876416

>>14874530
interesting tidbit. I have a family member with Aspergers and he definitely seems kinda sociopathic sometimes. Any tips on how to deal with this?

>> No.14876464

>>14872210
>>14869844
He allows the neurotypical mask to slip around them (and occasionally women) because he doesn't think perceive them as human, you fucking morons. "Is it autism?" No.

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>>14872602
>>14872614
Based book. My favourite.

>> No.14876700

>>14872614
>babar
That stuff was my childhood. Unironically gets me interested in that book. A self conscious faggot /pol/ack writing about a serial killer that knows about babar and impersonate niggers.

>>14876416
Your bro does nothing wrong, become friends.

>> No.14876911

>>14869993
Id go a step further and say he predicted the type of people who would post on this site before they existed.

>> No.14877729

>>14876700
>Your bro does nothing wrong, become friends.
why would you say this to someone you know nothing about?

>> No.14878663

>>14877729
because he's lonely and damaged to the point of feeling instant kinship with anyone he views as being sociopathic
projection at it's purest

>> No.14879016

>>14872210
He meant he flicked a quarter at a homeless guy

>> No.14879037

>>14873074
The entire premise is that Bateman is superficially interested in those things. You're not seriously suggesting Ellis is describing those objects for aesthetic merit are you? The absolute state of lit

>> No.14879050

>>14874613
Imagine replying to your own post on an anonymous website to correct yourself for something nobody would've cared about

>> No.14879084

>>14879050
>anonymous
Listen to this smug little bitch. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot.

>> No.14879117

>>14868526
It literally hints aspergers in the first talk show he watches. It does this right after the intro dinner scene when he acts like an aspie

>> No.14879131

>>14869674
>I think he tries too hard to fit in to be actually autistic.
The fact that he’s unable to in the first place means he is a autistic. Aspies aren’t inherently stupid. They should understand that they social cues exist, they just cannot naturally relate to them.
‘Sociopathy’ which isn’t completely a real thing, but definitely not speaks to something real in a lot of people, is probably a variation of aspergers

>> No.14879168

>>14879131
>>14879117
you guys seem to be in touch with your inner Sperg. are their aspies who aren't narcissistic? most of the one's i've met seem to be.

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>>14872210
>"A cheeseburger. I'd like a cheeseburger and I'd like it medium rare." "I'm sorry, sir," the waitress says. "No cheese. Kosher," and I have no idea what the fuck she's talking about and I say, "Fine. A kosherburger but with cheese, Monterey Jack perhaps, and - oh god," I moan, sensing more cramps coming on. "No cheese, sir," she says. "Kosher…" "Oh god, is this a nightmare, you fucking Jew?" I mutter, and then, "Cottage cheese? Just bring it?" "I'll get the manager," she says. "Whatever. But bring me a beverage in the meanwhile," I hiss. "Yes?" she asks. "A… vanilla… milk shake…" "No milk shakes. Kosher," she says, then, "I'll get the manager." "No, wait." "Mister I'll get the manager." "What in the fuck is going on?" I ask, seething, my platinum AmEx already slapped on the greasy table. "No milk shake. Kosher," she says, thick-upped, just one of billions of people who have passed over this planet. "Then bring me a fucking… vanilla… malted!" I roar, spraying spit all over my open menu. She just stares. "Extra thick!" I add. She walks away to get the manager and when I see him approaching, a bald carbon copy of the waitress, I get up and scream, "Fuck yourself you retarded cocksucking kike," and I run out of the delicatessen and onto the street where this

More like Based Easton Ellis

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>>14880435
>I get up and scream, "Fuck yourself you retarded cocksucking kike," and I run out of the delicatessen and onto the street
That line is something I can only imagine /pol/ doing.

>> No.14880541

>>14880435
he has whatever Elliott Rodger had

>> No.14880590

>>14880467
the typical array of /pol/ attitudes is nothing but the ideas people used to have that are now censored by popular understanding mixed with some schizophrenic interpretations of the present

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>...a drug dealer on Thirteenth Street who offers me crack and blindly I wave a fifty at him and he says “Oh, man” gratefully and shakes my hand, pressing five vials into my palm which I proceed to eat whole and the crack dealer stares at me, trying to mask his deep disturbance with an amused glare, and I grab him by the neck and croak out, my breath reeking, “The best engine is in the BMW 750iL”

fucking love this book

>> No.14880724

>>14880597
This is how I imagine /o/ posters are.

>> No.14880730

>>14879168
I’m one person. Definitely not a sperg, but an observer of people.

The dumb ones, which are at least the most obvious, don’t seem to be narcissistic

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>>14868526
Not autistic but I would say he has some suppressed social anxiety and body dysmorphia that leads to him constantly being aware of what he and other people look like. He always knows what he personally looks like due to his rigid routine so he doesnt sweat himself as much, but he cant help but notice other people, which is why he goes into so much detail when describing how they look. It's all in his head so he goes through the process of noting other people's appearances to help him relax.

>> No.14881014

holy fuck I have to read this book I'm wheezing

>> No.14881035

It took me several posts to realize this thread isn't about batman.

>> No.14881159

>>14881014
Yeah, you really should. Beyond just being a moving, biting critique of Reagan neoliberalism, it's also got tons of gems just like the ones in this thread.

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>>14881010
Mega-based.

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>>14872559

>> No.14881226

>>14868526
He just wanted a quiet life

>> No.14881417

>>14868526
Bateman is a hodgepodge of mental illness memes from the 80s. Not a real person or even a complete personality that appears in nature.

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Patrick was definitely a sperg of considerable proportions. There are too many instances of him freaking out of nothing, being weirdly petty, or just being a loser. He high fives himself for no reason, nearly has a panic attack when he talks about pepsi and the autistic as fuck, what I believe to, murder fantasies. The disconnect between his egotistical narration compared to how much of a loser he is most of the time is pretty funny. The scene with his brother was gold.