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Money.
“Leaders” are people.
People hate each other for a lot of reasons and in the Balkans it’s just religious and cultural reasons. But most of them got along well enough before capitalists started arming nationalists and other fundies

You can't put every single war into the same category

>>14853645
Sure you can. They’re all senseless

people tend to hold the belief that everything is a zero sum gain, in their heads the logic they follow is "if somebody has something they are taking what i could have" although this could be true in a specific circumstance it takes a special grade of psychopath to actually send people to the meat grinder in order to achieve it and ultimately the people doing the fighting will likely never see the rewards for what they have accomplished.

people tend to hold the belief that everything is a zero sum game, in their heads the logic they follow is "if somebody has something they are taking what i could have" although this could be true in a specific circumstance it takes a special grade of psychopath to actually send people to the meat grinder in order to achieve it and ultimately the people doing the fighting will likely never see the rewards for what they have accomplished.

>>14853600
Bourgeois fractions in the Balkans have conflicting interests.

>>14853652
I'm Serbian and this response was extremely based.

>>14854279
>Bourgeois

>>14853600
the balkans just hunger for a powerful outside nation like the byzantine empire or the ottoman empire in the past to rule over them. starting wars amongst themselves is a coping mechanism.

>>14854285
Yes, bourgeois fractions, that is various fractions connected with industrial and financial capital. Local and abroad.

>>14853628
> But most of them got along well enough before capitalists started arming nationalists and other fundies

You clearly have never read a single history book in your life.

>>14854279
>>14854366
No bourgeois fractions in the Balkans. If you want to use Marxists terms you could say they were still in transition from the feudal stage.

>>14854418
Are you retarded?

>>14853600
It’s both. Leaders usually will instigate the wars but the people are only willing to follow them because of natural animosity between cultural and ethnic groups that arises from inverted kin altruism, a byproduct of evolutionary mechanisms which leads an organisms to naturally be more helpful to closely related individuals and in this case less helpful or even hostile to less related individuals.

>>14853600
Wars start where communication/institutions ends

>>14854366
>>14854285
>>Fractions
>factions
Didn't realize /lit/ had become such a smooth-brained board.

Guess ill see myself out.

This is such a child-like question. I don't mean it as an insult, but things are much more complicated than that, anon. War happends because of economic reasons, then you have irresponsible politicians and layers of prejudice are formed amongst people, involving historic and cultural matters. One feeds on the other, I know it's a generic answer, but it really depends. If it was an easy subject, we would just have to change the leaders and things would work perfectly, or you could just chant give peace a chance and people would love each other. If only it was like that. That being said it doesn't mean all leaders are the same or that efforts against xenophobia are useless.

tl;dr it's complicated

>>14854636
The word for "faction" in Slavic languages is practically the same as "fraction". It's fraktsiya in Russian, frakcija in Serbian, frakce in Czech, etc. This is about the most benign typo possible, but I think you should leave nevertheless.

>>14854660
Thanks for linguistics lesson

I won't be leaving anytime soon unless i manage to follow through on killing myself, but like the rest of you I dont think that will happen.

Doesn’t this website have a history board? To make this literature related, talk about good Balkan authors, like Ivo Andric. Everyone talks about Bridge Over the Drina, but Omer Pasha Latas is incredible.