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How old was Guenon's (pbuh) illiterate arab wife when he married her? If she wasn't prime preteen cunny, I'd be disappointed.

Cringe OP, this is some serious cope. Leave the Guenonposters alone, they are not bothering you.

(pbuh)

René Guénon ?
More like René Guenon amirite

Based thread brothers! I'm sure Guenon (pbuh) himself would be proud.

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Baste! Keep up the good work brothers.
>>14747258
Cringe

based

>>14747229
Guido de Giorgio is superior

>>14747258
t. guenonfag

>>14749500
based!

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holy based

>>14747229
What is the difference bw girard gnon and guenom? It seems like the same people post them.

>>14749942
The difference is one of them happens to be a monkey.
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Based!!
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Cringe

AAAAHHHHHH WHY AM I READING GUENON (peace be upon him) IT'S 3AM WTF I SHOULD BE READING THE BIBLE NOT THIS GARBAGE WHAT HAVE YOU FOOLS DONE TO ME??

>>14747258
>Leave the Guenonposters alone
>they are not bothering you.

>>14747258
this dumb fuck posts at least 60 times on his own threads.

guenon, Shankara and robinson was proactively refuted by Nagarjuna.

The wheel of the Dhamma have smashed the eternalists, nihilists and theists. A clearing has been made and the middle road is now open to all sentient beings. Submit or forever tumble further down into samsara.

Insha'Bvddha!

>>14752152
The actual middle road isn't a material dialectic synthesis of eternalism and annihilationism, you cannot identify with the ephemeral phenomenon to be real, that perpetuates samsara and so it is eternal rebirth and rebecoming into aggregate corporeal existence. That's both eternalism and annihilationism. Majjhatta is neither. Eternalism is really meant of Perpetualism as the part of the edge of the wheel/axis mundi that touches the dirt on the ground and perpetually touches the ground at some point as the wheel turns. You are identifying yourself as that ephemeral moment you jump into the river which instantly pass, all meaning ceases instantly for there is no purpose for those who grasps onto their current embodiment as also their refuge. The principle superior to its expression as the attribute of that principle is not bound to its own expression, for what you do isn't who you are. You are neither matter nor that which identifies self as matter, rather, matter holds onto you in expression, there is no expression of matter to be had without you. There is however the two selves in a vertical axis, the self that sees none other than itself in the mirror and the self that sees the body that is not the self. What which is perpetuated is not the self, while that which perpetuates is the self in expression as if it was trying to be any other than itself which is impossible. The self in principle and attribute affirms the reality of the self, for there is no hard separation between the Absolute from its Will. The Will to return to the Absolute is accomplished through Henosis. That which comes to the eternal truth about the Absolute is too that which is eternal is One in the truth of the Absolute has also disassociated from the aggregate illusions that arise from agnosis which is the result of gnosis of the Self cannot know of anything other than itself external to itself so it becomes totality in attribute. The process of the true self discovery isn't found in the self, it is the affirmation of both states of the self, which liberation is the changing of the state of self in expression to the self in principle, which that divine circuit once actualized ends in the One. Perpetualists cannot claim to make any claims to be true for they are in perpetual doubt on what is real while grasping at that which perpetually isn't real as if it was, all without proof as to why it is perpetuated without relying on any theory of Platonic forms nor logical retroduction of what something isn't to come to that which is, yet merely expressing forms as mere object signs as means to use material reductionism to claim it is infinite matter all the way down, only to sink below that baseless foundation into lower hells of reality to suffer until that grasping ends, never makes it to the other shore.

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blessed post (om mani padme hum)

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Based

fuck yea buddhism all the way

>>14752309
does this mean I am allowed to masturbate and if yes how often?

>>14747229
Holy based! can someone recommend some essential Guénon reading?

>>14753626
Salawat! Here you go, brother. It's a truly enlightening book. I can feel the gnosis running through my heart just by looking at the cover.

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Cringe
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Based!

>>14753624
Gotama had a son before he left to seek the truth for himself. Biological telos isn't the same as metaphysical telos. Having children as well as lusting after others is a distraction for those who haven't attained liberation while there is no merit nor demerit that negates liberation since liberation isn't a work. Those who had attained the truth will have the free will to reject the divine will in foolishness because it is a choice for the Arahant although not even a choice available for the unillumined. Who you were and who you will become on this earth is not who you are in principle, but those who have the divine will can actualize it while the many can't manifest the good of the good without grasping onto rewards instead of being good because you are good in principle. It is wrong to succumb to materiality but there is no sky daddy telling you to reject your biological functions yet for those who are not saved from soul transmigration, those who perpetuate lust ends up being consumed by aggregate desires for their will is ever more enslaved by their actions. It is not a slippery slope, more like a heuristic of what not to do if you want to suffer less. Go have children before or after enlightenment if you can raise them righteously that has nothing to do with the metaphysical purpose in life which is to actualize Self-Knowledge. If your will is weak, abstinence from vices helps focus one's will but some will fail to attain liberation which their next mortal life they might have better circumstances to seek the truth.

>>14747258
On the one hand the Islamification of Europe is a Zionist plot. On the other hand if Europe were entirely Muslim there would be more support, or less support for the Zionist State of Israel?

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Cringe
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Freemasonic Shriners LARP as Muslims while the Muslim Brotherhood is a Jewish concept as nothing of the sort exists in scriptures as David Livingstone notes. Muslim Zionism is all too real. The only way to pacify Muslims is through Neoplatonic Sufism as well as secular national democracy to introduce them into multiculturalism.

>>14751873
Linking to this post in the other thread, which just died or is about to, because I want to reply to it.

>What the fuck is wrong with him? I just want to have a genuine conversation with the guy for once, without his hiding behind memes or irony. Guenonfag, my friend, just tell us what the fuck is wrong with you?

It's funny this is exactly my thought process, and I've seen several other people say the same thing almost exactly. No matter how other anons try to bridge the gap he doesn't really want to have a conversation. Unless he's browbeating them with his ROBINSON BTFO BUDDHISM spam.

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>multiculturalism
post-nationalism, and yet that doesn't necessitate secularism.

The rest of your post I will figure out later, if it is important.

>>14754320
It is more likely that there will be more atheists as more of them have internet access but once women's rights are protected as in women having rights, that is when sharia law is abolished.

>>14754351
I'm fairly certain that you're responding from a tip sheet, which may be ephemeral.
I don't know how the internet can make you an atheist.
I'd like to know some women's rights that are not in Islam, if there are indeed any, and then we can talk about what rights actually are.

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The internet makes those who are not aware of atheism to be a culturally acceptable norm to contemplate upon its implications, making some lose their devotion and seek anything else of which atheism or agnostic atheism is the most common baseline starting point some people have. Some modes of Sufi philosophy is just agnostic mysticism that doesn't explain anything beyond some basic doctrines on the nature of Allah and just keeps one at an aporetic denial of any divine hidden knowledge reserved for Allah to be known by anyone, as the means of rejecting theurgic union with Allah. Not all apophatic theology is stonewalling the path of wisdom away from people but most forms of it promoted by staunch believers are never the type that allows direct wisdom regardless of what position they be. There is an abuse of negation to never affirming anything as means to affirm traditional doctrines, intentional or otherwise, they are doing more harm in prolonging agnosis of which gnosis is the remedy, which then leads people away from one tradition in seeking another that allows what was not allowed in their previous traditional adherence but usually before one does that, they entertain upon the logic of atheism to see if it suits them and some people do stick with atheism for the rest of their lives for whatever reason. A staunch closeminded group of people regardless of what religion it is, stifles progression of wisdom, and Islam is no exception. There are many videos of ex-Muslims out there preaching against their upbringing.

>>14754534
I know one Muslim, living in a western country but not from a western country, he wanted to know if he converted to Christianity if he could still enter paradise (jannah), he was told no because if he did that he would be denying the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
He was asked about what made him consider this, and he said it was so he could drink alcohol without committing sin.

>>14754584
There are Christian sects that are strictly anti alcohol like Mormonism for example. Anecdotal examples has no bearing on hypotheticals which isn't limited to specific circumstances and takes into account all scenarios. That being said, what I had said still remains generally true but that isn't by any means a promotion of evils done outside of Islamic communities, and I won't bother talking to those who don't seek the truth above all else, "conversion" is for junk cults that have to advertise in order to gain an attraction.

>>14747229
that shit has sailed, will never read anything of it even if it was obvious a fucking spazz meme schizz from teh get go with very very little to offer. i am totally sick of reading that stupid name. will never support. even out of meme.

>>14754633
We aren't really arguing, I thought we had a disagreement but we really don't. You have taught me another reason why it is important to offer the salaam as greeting.

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