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American capitalist globalism is non-Abrahamic.

It's almost like the Abrahamic religions won for a reason, OP.

>>14707617
Because they were willing to kill everyone in their way, plagiarize whenever necessary, lie, cheat, and steal, etc? I agree they were very effective at eradicating all their competition. I think it was an absolutely horrible fate for mankind. I don't deny YHWH exists I just think he's a horrible demon.

Islamic metaphysics are Platonic. Read Ibn Arabi and Suhrawardi.

>>14707617
>won
At least you used the correct tense. They're losing today.

>>14707685
You say, as Islam and Catholicism are busy splitting the planet between them.

>>14707777
That's an exaggeration. It's more accurate to say they are transforming themselves to accommodate changes in society. Basically to better participate in the world market and capitalist order.

>>14707777
As if either of them are the forces in control lol

>>14707598
Someone's testing your anti-Semitism. Don't let evil prejudices win.

>>14707660
>>14707598
This is true. Also read Ramban who was essentially Aristotelian.
I also think you should drop the anti semitism. Its pathetic and makes you look like an idiot. I'm say this to warn you not to insult you.

You sound pretty far gone, but I'll give it a shot. Jews don't think G-d is a jew. (H)e is an utterly transcendental being for them. They say (H)e because they are emphasising the active side that intervenes in creation because they are waiting for (H)im to bring the Messiah. Israel being made a holy people is as much a curse as a blessing. If they don't keep the commandments, bad things happen to them. The same applies more generally- like how the whole of humanity has largely used its intellect for exploitation rather than beneficence.

Dont be butt hurt because life isn't like you want it to be. Its not for you, its for G-d. You didn't create yourself, G-d created you. You don't need to be here, G-d needs you to be here. So man up and do what you were created to do.

>>14707598
The so-called "Jews" appeared many centuries after Christ, and as an explicit reaction to Christianity.

>>14707613
Proof?

>>14707648
>I don't deny YHWH exists I just think he's a horrible demon.
based

>>14709144
usury is a sin, i know interest rates in islam is banned. Judaism is the except if the /pol/ memes are real.

>>14709135
>The so-called "Jews" appeared many centuries after Christ, and as an explicit reaction to Christianity.
>>14709097

>>14707777
What a retard you are.

>>14707802
>That's an exaggeration. It's more accurate to say they are transforming themselves to accommodate changes in society. Basically to better participate in the world market and capitalist order.
Kind of weird to type things like this when, to any informed onlooker, you appear completely and utterly ignorant (as you must well know you are).
Please do cease.

>>14707598
>Only actual practice and churches

But you're wrong.

From Kashmir to Indonesia, Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism are running wild

>>14709104
NOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN GOOD JEWERINOS YOU CAN'T SAY THAT THEY ARE G-D'S CHOSEN PEOPLE

>>14709144
The Scottish and the founders of the United States were a mix of atheists, Enlightenment-era Christians (aka utilitarians who were only Christian for political and economic reasons), and liberals (in the classical sense) who befriended many non-Christians for increasing the breadth of their influence.

>>14707598
>non-abrahamic metaphysics and religion are objectively better and make more sense than christianity
Super secret pro-gamer tip: they do not

>>14707598
>great thinkers like Plato and Plotinus are gone forever
Plato and Plotinus were more heavily influenced by semites than the new testament was

>>14707598
The central flaw behind Western civilization is the creator/creation dichotomy which is associated with substance metaphysics and the idea of thing-in-itselfness, that something only needs itself to exist, removed from anything else. This is the philosophical justification for private property, which requires dismissing parallelism and focusing only on linear causality. Substance metaphysics is the metaphysics of alienation, and one possible route to transcend this is process metaphysics, in which thing-ness is the total web of relationships between an event and everything else. In this view there is no distinction between a creator and a creation, and the concept of a singular creator creating a singular creation is replaced by an immanent creativity in which all events co-author the tapestry of existence.

The perception of reality that comes with this is all of existence as continually co-creating art, of not a singular purpose and meaning but an infinite number of them, a universe alive with unfathomable richness and depth of meaning that while we can only glimpse a small fraction of, such glimpses give a hint of the hidden vastness that while unreachable to us, can be experienced. Try to imagine your life as a relationship with the universe, not in a paternalistic sense or a dominative sense (as with the idea that the universe is a passive, meaningless void upon which one creates meaning out of,) but in a mutualistic sense of complete equality. Remember that this isn't a relationship between yourself and a singular unity, but a web of relationships of which the totality comprises your life, including your relationship with yourself. Seek mutualistic co-creative relationships in all affairs, not just between humans but all things, including elements of yourself, and you will find well-being and happiness.

Your afterlife is literally what happens after your life: there is no distinction between you and the rest of the universe, and so your becoming is truly immortal; you live on as the universe. Those who place all meaning in their own existence have their meaning die with them, but those who place their meaning in all that is outside them have immortal meaning.

>>14710450
There is not a single sentence in this massive text wall that is correct. Fascinating.

>>14710491
Cope. Your metaphysics is shit.

>>14707598
>>non-abrahamic metaphysics and religion are objectively better and make more sense than christianity
but that is wrong

>>14710499
Cope. Your metaphysics is shit.

>>14709104
>argument is literally "bend over, slut"
I will fight with everything in my power to preserve this reality from demonic entities like you and your Archon God

>>14710616
Why? If everything is a product of gods will and we talke that as the Definition of God, the first causer, then your anger at the idea is one fully contained within the system of God’s everything.

>>14710697
In this case one is only railing against an image of god, not the superlative god.

The greatest paradox of Christianity is that it renounces worldly power, yet depends upon this worldly power to retain any sense of truth. Without its churches it is nothing, while their expansion only deepens the betrayal of Christianity's fundamental laws.
The strength of the 'pagan' religions is quite different. Its forces rise from the earth and surge through the sky, just as wind is the defeat of the laws of gravity. Its worldly power appears naturally, unfolding as that of a landscape not yet scarred by civilisation. There is no scarring of roads, lines of retreat necessitated by overuse.

It is this natural appearance that allows the Greek myths to continue on in the modern era, surviving not only the Christian desecrations, but also the secular law of materialisation. The vast wall which defends against and then pierces into and sections off time. The greatest myths survive this attempt to hollow out and corrupt eternal laws, turn them into artifacts of the triumph of worldly power and the ephemeral era.
It is no mistake that the survival of Christianity depends upon forms of mobilisation which mirror global secularism. The identification of Europe with its colonies, acquired through technological expansion, is reflected in the Pope's subservience to the laws of these lands. As Europe abandons its transitional faith the forced conversions must find new subjects. Loss of identification and vitality is necessary in the forming of the One.

Here the opposition of Christianity and secular humanism disappears. Catholicism and Protestantism reveal themselves as equal forces, a deepened unity rather than a reaction caused by colliding masses. As the Churches spread to the corners of the earth they are also apprehended by metamorphoses formed of unseen elements; religion faces its dissipation into the natural laws of the land. Eternal becoming in the disassembly of sacred places - both forests and stone buildings begin to take on desert qualities.
Falling laws cascade, as the forces of gravity dictate. Human power is the permanence of the fall of the rebel angels. Their graves become mobile, living material.

>>14710887
Christianity does not renounce worldly powers.

>>14710450
>process
OH NO NO NO NO

>>14710958
Cope.

>>14711697
Retroactively based.

>>14710958
Since when?

>>14710450
Interesting. Are you copypasting some other author's ideas or are you developing your own here?

>>14710450
I was cool with it until the last paragraph. Disembodied post-mortem existence is already a proven fact (look into NDE's) as is the return to embodiment, i.e. reincarnation (look into studies on reincarnation).

>>14710450
screencapped except for the gay materialist last paragraph. thanks mate

>>14710450
This isn't true since Christianity isn't Western, and Western civ began before Christianity/Judaism.

>>14710958
Hence the paradox...

>>14711993
>except for the gay part
The entire thing is gayness incarnate.

>>14710450
>>14711981
>>14711986
>>14711993
Reading Guénon (pbuh) enables me to see these posts as being written by ignorant and deluded hylics.

>>14711697
>>14711964
Basé...

>>14712034
Cope. Your metaphysics is shit.

>>14710450
>The central flaw behind Western civilization is the creator/creation dichotomy which is associated with substance metaphysics and the idea of thing-in-itselfness, that something only needs itself to exist, removed from anything else. This is the philosophical justification for private property, which requires dismissing parallelism and focusing only on linear causality. Substance metaphysics is the metaphysics of alienation, and one possible route to transcend this is process metaphysics, in which thing-ness is the total web of relationships between an event and everything else. In this view there is no distinction between a creator and a creation, and the concept of a singular creator creating a singular creation is replaced by an immanent creativity in which all events co-author the tapestry of existence.
>The perception of reality that comes with this is all of existence as continually co-creating art, of not a singular purpose and meaning but an infinite number of them, a universe alive with unfathomable richness and depth of meaning that while we can only glimpse a small fraction of, such glimpses give a hint of the hidden vastness that while unreachable to us, can be experienced. Try to imagine your life as a relationship with the universe, not in a paternalistic sense or a dominative sense (as with the idea that the universe is a passive, meaningless void upon which one creates meaning out of,) but in a mutualistic sense of complete equality. Remember that this isn't a relationship between yourself and a singular unity, but a web of relationships of which the totality comprises your life, including your relationship with yourself. Seek mutualistic co-creative relationships in all affairs, not just between humans but all things, including elements of yourself, and you will find well-being and happiness.
>Your afterlife is literally what happens after your life: there is no distinction between you and the rest of the universe, and so your becoming is truly immortal; you live on as the universe. Those who place all meaning in their own existence have their meaning die with them, but those who place their meaning in all that is outside them have immortal meaning.

>>14711981
>Interesting.

>>14711986
>I was cool with it

>>14711993
>screencapped

>>14712053
>Cope. Your metaphysics is shit.

>>14712052
The meme is dead. You can stop now.

>>14712052
>Reading Guénon (pbuh) enables me to see these posts as being written by ignorant and deluded hylics.
You're looking into the mirror of your own soul

>>14711981
>Interesting
What is """interesting""" about garden-variety anglo-onionsboy bugmanist philosophies? Genuinely curious.

>>14712052
You got your ass handed to you in that other thread...don't know how you can show yourself here on /lit/ after that...

>>14712078
>Genuinely curious
I get the distinct feeling that you aren't

>>14712070
>The meme is dead. You can stop now.

>>14712083
>You got your ass handed to you in that other thread...don't know how you can show yourself here on /lit/ after that...

>>14712083
What thread? Can guenonfags and antiguenonfags say something beyond their meme warfare?

>>14711697
>>14711964
>>14712052
>>14712078
>>14712064
>>14712068
>>14712089
Based.
So many seething hylics deluded by maya in this thread...
I pray that Guenon (pbuh)'s ineffable light shall vanquish all ignorance from their hearts.

>>14712089
>>meme is dead
I guess you are implying that I'm a samefag...
I posted this >>14712010 and I'm not really interested in process philosophy.

Why yes, I am a Shankarian (pbuh) non-dualist, how could you tell?

>>14712120
>>14712115
>>14712089
>>14712052
nothing against guenon (pbuh) but please stay in your containment thread

>non-abrahamic metaphysics and religion are objectively better and make more sense than christianity
Orthodoxy makes more sense than both

>>14712152
>>non-abrahamic metaphysics and religion
That is a Guenonian (pbuh) topic.

>>14712165
No, they're still Yahwists which is retarded. They have better theology than Catholics though

>>14712165
can you elaborate on why you think it is better than the eastern religions? i am looking into its basics right now and I can see how it's more coherent than catholicism for sure.

>>14712177
Read Gregory Palamas (Triads) or books about him by Orthodox theologians

>>14712200
>Gregory Palamas
does he explicitly address this question?

>>14712177
With the exception of Daoism which never really posits claims about anything beyond the Logos, Eastern religion still falls in the trap of viewing God's ontology as essentially simple with no division and ends up being fancy Neoplatonism. There is no essence-energies distinction which is what makes Christianity unique (and which Catholicism and Protestantism stripped away)

>>14709615
this

>>14712222
Nice quads and not him but I never got the appeal of the essence-energies distinction. ADS is something that feels intuitive to me and I like it.

I would become Orthodox if I could keep Thomist metaphysics.

>>14707660
>>14709104
No shit anything of intellectual value in Islam or Christianity comes from pagan philosophy. Just because they ripped their core from elsewhere doesn't mean they don't have a bunch of retarded baggage alongside.

>>14712367
>I would become Orthodox if I could keep a position Orthodoxy (rightfully) retroactively refutes

>>14712222
>God's ontology as essentially simple with no division
>what is Nirguna Brahman and Saguna Brahman
>what is Shiva and Sakti

>>14712657
>>what is Nirguna Brahman and Saguna Brahman
isn't one of those fake under the maya doctrine?

>>14709615
Indeed. Personaly I disagree with OP's antisemitism, but I do think that people can practice the religion of their choice and shouldn't be impeded

>>14712486
Prove this

>>14707648
>I don't deny YHWH exists I just think he's a horrible demon.
Same tought I had on the god of the Old Testament.

>>14707613
between jews and the protestant work ethic capitalist globalism is about as abrahamic as it gets

>>14710887
Trying to copy Nietzsche I see

>>14715297
Neither are anywhere's near at the center of the movement, if you want to call it that. It's not much of a movement because it's really just a handful of individuals, none of which are Abrahamic in the slightest, not part of any church outright.

>>14715489
Neither jews nor protestants are anywhere near the center of American capitalist globalism?

>>14707617
judaism and islam is disguised satanism.
Anything dealing with Cathloicism or Protestantism especially modern churches are entirely heretical and invalid. The purest form of Christianity has always been Eastern Orthodoxy and there is no debate to that unless you are a brainwashed faggot.
I also think forms of hinudism and bhudism are valid along with pagan beliefs.

If you want an accurate metaphysical structure you need to combine all the different sections. ie christianity is one spoke on the wheel. If you put all the right spokes together I believe you get something really special.
The problem is with shit like catholics or protestants you get incomplete false portraits and false structures that reinforce control systems and phony spiritualism for the masses of idiots.

>>14715684
>I also think forms of hinudism and bhudism are valid along with pagan beliefs.
How the fuck is this supposed to work with monotheism?

>>14715517
Correct. It was founded by secular atheists and is still maintained by them.

>>14715905
the absolute state of christian apologia

>>14715934
I don't think American capitalist globalism is bad. It's mostly Christians and Muslims who think it is.

>>14715314
How is it the same as Nietzsche?

>>14715947
>I don't think American capitalist globalism is bad.
Oh, okay. Hopefully you'll make better choices in your next life. Wishing you luck.

>>14715975
So I'll just be a hedonist in the next life then? Great, I look forward to it. Sounds like a relief after a long life of being unable to deny the truth from myself no matter how tormenting it is.

>>14715988
Yes, something like that.

>>14709160
>vilifying the jewish race
>blasphemy
>implying that being jewish is akin to being God
>implying that the jews of 2000 years ago are the jews of today
>implying that Jesus being jewish is in any way relevant compared to him being the perfect man

>>14707598
>>non-abrahamic metaphysics and religion are objectively better and make more sense than christianity
Only if you remove Gnosticism, the other half of Christianity. Heck, Christians did it themselves so I guess.

>>14709160
No tribes of Israel remain, no Levite, no Judahite, no Benjamin... They even became matrilinear and lost all their genealogies. Their religion was codified in 5th century, and it was a massive cope against Christianity.

>>14707648
>Cucktholics stained christianity, ergo God is wrong
Cringe

>>14715692
>reee hinduism is polytheistic
>t. uneducated retard

>>14709160
Being "Jewish" is explicitly defined as being someone who rejects Christ. It's the central keystone of "Jewish" identity, you stupid git.

Obviously the people you call "Jews" have no relation to the Hebrews/Israelites of the Old and New Testaments.

>>14716868
Polytheism is better than pantheism desu.

>>14716856
Gnostics are retards. They found a few notes about Plato someone wrote on a napkin and then rolled in all of YHWH's evil characteristics (most of his aspects). Creation is not evil.

>>14716868
No faggot, Christianity is monotheistic. How is Jesus supposed to be literally god on earth and the only way to salvation if you can be a vedantist or a buddhist and still "be valid" (whatever that means)? Was Jesus supposed to be an avatar of god like Krishna? According to what? What is your source?

>>14716932
This is another problem with Christianity, you fags make yourselves out to be the center of the universe, like every definition and every distinction is related to whether or not you correctly worship a dead revolutionary. And you better do it correct or you get to burn in hell literally forever.

>>14717028
Hell is not real, STUDY the bible

>>14715684
>>14716868
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
>NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME.

>>14717028
>It's a problem that you believe that God dying to save you makes you important.
You aren't even making an argument; you're just expressing personal resentment.

>>14715684
>Bruh Catholicism and Protestantism are heretical!!!! Only Eastern Orthodoxy is correct..... but I reject what Eastern Orthodox actually believe because I'm a polytheist and therefore don't believe that Christian orthodoxy is actually true.... but you're heretics!!
Imagine being this much of a stupid fucking retard.

>>14717061
I am more than happy to admit that I resent that an atheist cult of boot licking jew worshipers violently conquered half the planet and intentionally and maliciously destroyed or tainted almost all religious traditions besides the ones their worldly masters instructed them to pervert or keep to gawk at in a museum.

>>14717125
If your little pagan tradition couldn't survive a "bootlicking jew cult" then it wasn't worth anything to begin with.

>>14717125
Also the one who's worried about museums is you. You don't actually believe any of this is true because you want a multiplicity of made-up bullshit circulating around. It's some kind of intellectual curiosity for you. Pathetic.

>>14717160
Oh, come on, drop this silly darwinism. You wouldn't apply that reasoning to anything else. Is survival strictly the only thing that value can be determined from?

>>14707598
I share the exact same sentiment. I was kind of shocked reading this because it looked like something I could have written.

>>14717168
>you want a multiplicity of made-up bullshit circulating around
What specifically does this even mean? What made-up bullshit? Are you referring to non-abrahamic myths, legends, and mysteries? Elaborate, please.

>>14717169
>>14717173
I simply mean that the only religion that has real value is the one that is true.

>>14717172
I know I'm not the only one. I really would like to be able to attend religious services and worship and respect the gods but there's nowhere I can go that makes any sense. I was a christian for a while but the historical contingencies of christianity disillusioned me (among other things). I feel an affinity to greco-roman "aesthetic" I guess you could call it and I think pythagorean/platonic mysteries and metaphysics make the most sense (from what I understand so far) to me, but there's literally nowhere I can go to actually learn more about that and actually practice it. I guess I could drive 5 hours to go to a buddhist temple run by phillipinos. There is no religious community allowed to exist where I could go be among fellows I think is the problem. This is one of the primary evils of Abrahamism: nothing else is allowed to exist. It's childish.

>>14717183
>I simply mean that the only religion that has real value is the one that is true.
That's just a tautology you put makeup on. Seriously, elaborate. Give me and the other readers of this thread some breadcrumbs to learn more. What are you trying to communicate to me?

>>14717197
>That's just a tautology you put makeup on. Seriously, elaborate. Give me and the other readers of this thread some breadcrumbs to learn more. What are you trying to communicate to me?
It's quite simple isn't it? If there is a religion that people follow, and it's simply made-up nonsense, its gods aren't real, and its unique teachings are all false, then why should I care about whether it exists or not? Why would you other than as some kind of cultural curiosity? Similarly if they're all false then be done with all of them. If your pagan """gods""" were real then they got stamped out by a dead Jew, lol.

>>14717207
Yeah okay go ahead and post something meaningful when you feel ready to participate

>>14717231
>please post something meaningful like my pagan larp that I know is fake but it's very deep unlike dead jew religion
lol

>>14710887
No one blasphemes Thor to stick it to pagans (the way atheists blaspheme Christ to stick it to Christians) this is because no one, not even “neo-pagans” actually believes in Thor.

>>14717280
>>14717207
Of course pagan "gods" are real, they're just demons.

>>14717280
You'll need a better argument than that. Clearly the Romans and most Europeans believed in their gods, and Christians were so threatened by these gods that they made entire myths concerning the dangers of their idols.
I believe in the gods, as do many others, even today.

>>14717679
He means today, not then. And no you don't believe in any of it, you faggot larper. Grow up.

>>14711973
Since ever

>>14717280
This is true. While I like the aesthetics of paganism, it’s a silly thing to believe in Thor et al. You would have to be farcical. And lying to oneself constantly poisons the soul. That’s why I dropped Christianity in the first place.

>>14716850
>the perfect man
>a kike
i don't think so christcuck

>>14707598
Platonism would have been just as cringe if it grew into a world wide religion.

>>14707598
Who is that European guy on the left

>>14709594
Cringe af

>>14717280
Nobody believes Thor was a literal person who was born to mortal parents at a precise, specific time in history in a literal way. That's not what any pagans believe, no pagan ever believed that. Christianity is absolutely historically (i.e. materially) contingent. Orphism, Pythagoreanism, Platonism, Buddhism, etc etc are not, they never have been. That's never been the point.

>>14718187
Mainstream denominations and interpretations of Christianity are absolutely historically contingent, but more “radical”, esoteric, mystical, and/or certain Gnostic views of it are absolutely not. You’re missing out on the timeless truths to be found in the Bible when you toss all of Judeo-Christianity away just because you don’t like the views of the Pope or the average people who go to church on Sunday.

Ask an average Christian to explain Jesus’s sayings such as “why do you call me good? Only my Father in heaven is good.” There are more interpretations open of the Gospels and Christ’s teachings than the basic “Jesus was literally the unique son of God and you must believe in Him, that’s the only way to get into Heaven.” Christians will call you a heretic but fuck em, it’s your own intellect and spiritual life on the line here.

>>14717768
You're really going to tell me what I believe, christcuck?

>>14717794
Imagine being this wrong.

>>14717909
>it’s a silly thing to believe in Thor
How so? If people never believed then there would be no stories.

>>14718187
>no pagan ever believed that
Wrong. You think they had rituals and sacrifices because they didn't actually believe?
Stop trying to secularize history just because you lack the understanding.

>>14718187
>Nobody believes Thor was a literal person who was born to mortal parents
What does this have to do with anything? How is this even an argument?

>>14718263
Yes they did believe, but now it would silly to believe that a man strikes his hammer in an anvil in the sky causing thunder.

>>14718323
Why would that be silly?

>>14709144
They worship more than a thousand Gods famalam. Start with the Miraclewhipayana, the Netflicspanishad and the Walmartedanta. +250y old wisdom in there my man.

>>14718481
Based. Look into Adsvaita-Pizzanta too for the full American-TV-tier gnosis.

>>14707598
IMO Jesus was a clever magician who attempted to release the common people from the tyranny (which I use here very loosely) of Jewish religious rule (in that it's exclusive by blood) by emancipating the common peoples of the bonds of the Jewish covenant whilst still allowing for the consolidation of divine power afforded by monotheism that the previous pagan religions could not provide. Note his use of careful language like "Son of God", it's been taken to literally mean progeny of God, but what is Adam if not a son of God? And hence, what are all who followed?
The Jewish literature was sort of tacked on in the aftermath as a contextual key, if you really hard refuse to drop the antisemitism like the others in the thread (and I, with them) would advise, you could claim that they put it in there to give their own head of the then two faced monotheistic God more power but there's really very little point and holding such a belief would undermine whatever beliefs you were holding in the power of Jesus and his teachings.

>>14718282
Christians LITERALLY believe that Jesus is god and he was born to mortal parents (Mary at least) at a very specific time in history. Like you could have watched Jesus come out of Mary's birth canal if you were there. No pagans believe that you could have watched Thor be literally born if you were in the right time and place. Thats a big difference between pagan philosophy and christian philosophy. Christians HAVE TO believe that.

>>14717028
Post-Second Temple and especially post-Roman Judaism being largely a cope against Christianity is just a fact, it has nothing to do with whether Christianity is correct.

>>14718273
You don’t know what belief means because your soul has been semitized

>metaphysics and religion

>>14719131
Proof?

>>14715295
"God bad"

People in the Old testament were fucking degenerates and facing the consequences.

>>14719039
Why would they not believe this? They don't believe the gods are real?

>>14719194
This. The whole history of salvation is God condescending to the level of fallen humanity as an act of love. God was hard in the Old Testament because the people were hard: "For they considered not the miracle of the loaves: for their heart was hardened."

>>14707598
>Why does christianity have to include stupid bullshit like retarded monotheism
If I've learned anything, it's that Christianity has a weak monotheistic theology to the point outside religions accuse it of adhering to polytheism.

>>14719259
Monotheism is a rather meaningless concept desu

>>14719194
Yhwh forced Ezekiel to lie face down in the mud and eat bread cooked over feces. How the hell is anyone supposed to read that and not assume that Yhwh is a nasty ass demon. Even meme satanists don't have rituals that degenerate and gross.

>>14719278
It's the mosaic distinction that matters, that being the idea that Yhwh is the only god, all other gods are false and all other religions and beliefs necessarily MUST be destroyed.

>>14711986
>he fell for the NDE meme

>>14707598
All metaphysics is bullshit, Abrahamic or not.

>>14719189
here is the proof: >>14718273

>>14719196
How old were you when you were diagnosed with autism?

>>14717961
Yes because it would have had to debase itself and be transformed from its roots. In fact the christians ripped off tons of Platonism where it was convenient. Platonism SHOULD NOT be a worldwide religion. It's a mystery religion. Plebs literally don't give a fuck about that shit. They just want to be told what to do.

>>14720223
dude the universe just happened by accident
>source: dude trust me

>>14719039
>implying the post-Christian metaphysical scientific view of physicalist reality existed in ancient Greece or Rome
Nice anachronism there.

>>14720504
>implying there are "happenings"

>>14707598
read kierkegaard. true christianity has nothing in common with paganism (good thing) and cannot be described as similar to islam and judaism (although it is based on old jewish books, but the jews rejected the messiah).

>>14707598
https://discord.gg/hCjX58e

>>14720525
>true christianity
Show me 10 christians and I'll show you ten different "true christianities". What authority does Kierkegaard claim? Did god tell him he's following true christianity? Give me a quick rundown if you think he's an expert.

>>14720550
Discord servers are cancer which inevitably detonate themselves from faggy interpersonal conflict and then anything interesting ever recorded in them is gone forever, unlike public BBS forums which, while just as gay, can be preserved. Also discord is obvious spyware and is run by pedophile furries. Change my mind.

>>14710450
Substitute the immortality of consciousness for the biological materialism of the final paragraph, and I think this was a wonderful post. Really agree with many notions here, primarily the notion of being equal to the rest of creation rather than existing in a hierarchical relationship to it. Did you write this? Great writing, if so.

>>14712222
Reply to me if you disagree, but isn't anything infinite simple by nature? Infinity can't contain any gaps or separations, resulting in it necessarily being singular, and therefore simple. If we extend this to consciousness, which is my view as to what "God" is, then the only distinctions existing within said infinite consciousness are the particular body-mind complexes which are presently localized, as individuations of said infinite awareness. Yet this individuation only exists at a relative level, and in the more fundamental sense consciousness remains non-localized. That's just my take anyway.

>>14720013
Why meme? They're quite a commonplace phenomena, even if ascertaining the true nature of them is much harder to do. Still interesting, and worth examining.