[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature


View post   

File: 11 KB, 279x200, deleuze1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
14681275 No.14681275 [Reply] [Original]

I don't see how anyone could say that being is superior to becoming or deny the notion of a fact.

For becoming to even exist, it needs to have an identity that unites it and gives it its distinction as "becoming." If it did not have this identity, then there would be no predicate which would unite all that which we call "becoming." Since becoming is reliant on identity to form itself and create coherance, is not identity prior to it and thus, it's origin? Without some sort of identity, it is completely undifferentiated and might as well be non-existent. It is even before Chaos, since Chaos itself would be an identity.

I still have yet to see how anyone can justify a statement like "there are no facts, only interpretations" when that statement posits itself as a fact. Is it not self refuting?

I am not trying to turn this into some "tradition vs progress" political debate. Simply from a pure metaphysical viewpoint, I am confused as to how such a concept is arrived at.

>> No.14681280
File: 962 KB, 2529x1214, 1562605551010.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
14681280

>>14681275

>> No.14681289

Becoming must be, but being does not necessarily have had to become as such

>> No.14681292
File: 22 KB, 323x480, 1581120568809.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
14681292

>>14681275
>Whatever pursuit you are indulging in, somewhere along the line it has to dawn on you that it is not leading you anywhere. As long as you want something, you will do that. That want has to be very, very clear. What do you want? All the time I ask you the question, "What do you want?" You say, "I want to be at peace with myself." That is an impossible goal for you because everything you are doing to be at peace with yourself is what is destroying the peace that is already there. You have set in motion the movement of thought which is destroying the peace that is there, you see. It is very difficult to understand that all that you are doing is the impediment, is the one thing that is disturbing the harmony, the peace that is already there

>If you are freed from the goal of the "perfect" ,"godly", "truly religious" then that which is natural in man begins to express itself. Your religious and secular culture has placed before you the ideal man or woman, the perfect human being, and then tries to fit everybody into that mold. It is impossible. Nature is busy creating absolutely unique individuals, whereas culture has invented a single mold to which all must conform. It is grotesque

>Political institutions and ideologies are the warty outgrowth of the religious thinking of the man; in a way responsible for the tragedy of mankind. We are slaves to our ideas and beliefs, and we torture ourselves in the hope of achieving something. All our experience, spiritual or otherwise, is the basic cause of our suffering... The body is not interested in anything "you" are interested in; that is the battle that is going on all the time.

>The fact is that we don't want to be free. What is responsible for our problems is the fear of losing what we have and what we know. All these therapies, all these techniques, religious or otherwise, are only perpetuating the agony of man.

>> No.14681304

>>14681275
Who cares, metaphysic dont put no food on the table