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What happened to this board?

>> No.14657457

>>14657450
Reddit and /pol/, basically.

>> No.14657472

>>14657457
I mean the absence of posters, and literally 0 literature discussions

>> No.14657483

>>14657472
There’s plenty of lit discussion. Most people just ignore it for the bait threads which is fine with me. That way it keeps the discussion between people who generally care about the serious topic on hand.

>> No.14657503

Whole website became a culture war ground zero besides maybe the very niche boards. Which /lit/ kind of missed the cut for. Now were the /smartpol/ board for poltards and the MARXIST GANG for leftypol trannies

>> No.14657504

>>14657483
first 18 threads have no discussions about any books,

>> No.14657559

The past few weeks seems to have been a very steep decline

>> No.14657573

>>14657559
why aren't old posters returning?

>> No.14657576
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>>14657450
>>14657457
>>14657472
>>14657483
>>14657503
>>14657504
>>14657559
>what happened to this board
>refuted by Guenon, retroactively
Nothing personal, kid.

>> No.14657583

people are reading less

>> No.14657585

>>14657450
well frogposters like you for instance happened to this board

>> No.14657588

>>14657583
why?

>> No.14657592

>>14657585
frogposters' existence is as old as this board

>> No.14657594

>>14657573
>>14657583
>>14657585
>>14657588
The 3-4 guenonfags on this board became too much and shit up almost every thread. I can’t mention Evola or Nietzsche without these faggots ruining the conversation. They don’t even have actual arguments - they literally get their information on Evola from his wiki page.

>> No.14657607

>>14657588
Books are a significant time investment compared to other mediums

>> No.14657623

>>14657607
that doesn't explain the decline of reading. No major medium came up recently that didnt exist before.

>> No.14657628

>>14657623
Winter break ended

>> No.14657665

>>14657450
>frogposters
>/pol/posters
>/r9k/posters
>/pol9k/ posters
>plebbit influx from gamergate
>plebbit influx from the '16 american election
>plebbit influx from the retarded faggot top 100 chart reaching 1 million views on plebbit
>widespread ADD twittermind, posts rarely exceed 40 words
>well-read posters left because of the above
>the people here now who consider themselves well-read have unironically read 40-60 books in their entire lives
Don't delude yourselves, however. /lit/ was never good.

>> No.14657687

>>14657665
>t. dipshit who only reads fiction

>> No.14657720

>>14657687
>obvious seething at the 40-60 books callout
Oh sweaty, maybe stop the mindless dopamine-droning on imageboards and read a book? :^)

>> No.14657729

>>14657665
>the people here now who consider themselves well-read have unironically read 40-60 books in their entire lives

Well I dont consider my self well read but you got me

>> No.14657737

>>14657592
go back

>> No.14657739

>>14657720
Only fictionfags really care about this; I don’t consider myself well read anyways. Please tell us about the 1,500 fiction books you read though, faggot. Fiction is no better than watching movies.

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>>14657594
I despise Guenonfag, but outside of the kind of threads you mention I don't think he's that much of an issue. Had a thread 2 days ago for the starter kit that went on for a while with only a single Guenonfag post.

Probably my own bias but the fiction threads on this board were always more fun, and always seemed to encourage organic philosophy discussions. If there's hope for the /lit/izens that actually read, I think it lies in fiction discussion.

>> No.14657748

People don't even talk about Spengler anymore...

>> No.14657752

>>14657739
>brothers k is no better than the avengers

>> No.14657758

>>14657503
Pretty fun here now desu

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>>14657752
>my Christian moralist bullshit is no better than the Avengers
Yes

>> No.14657793

You will only ever read a handful of books in your lifetime that really stick with you. The rest are just stepping stones to find the good books.
Women tend to read dozens of books a year yet ask them a single thing about how they felt about any particular book and they'll always say 'eh I don't know, I don't remember it really...'

>> No.14657796

>>14657764
christianity is bullshit to you? what do you believe in? in the good ol' biggy bangy? :)

>> No.14657804

>>14657793
Love too disparage women like an incel on the literature board

>> No.14657806

>>14657793
>eh I don't know, I don't remember it really...'
most people are like regardless of gender

>> No.14657816

>>14657739
>Only fictionfags really care about this
And you apparently. Seethe sweaty, seethe.

> Fiction is no better than watching movies.
Exhibit A of why /lit/ has become shit, add
>complete loss of aesthetic sensibility
to my above list.

Pleb, if you were hit that hard by my 40-60 book comment, I can earnestly say that I have read more books by and about the immediate post-Kantian german philosophers than you have read books full stop.

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>>14657796
>what do you believe in?

>> No.14657826

>>14657816
>t. pseud that led to the emergence of guenonfags

>> No.14657836

>>14657559
College semesters began a couple of weeks ago, so the academics are busy.

>> No.14657837

>>14657804
I'm simply generalizing from experience.
Also, its to not too you illiterate hatchet wound.

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>>14657450
Anonymity, in a word.
Trolls trolling trolls. Fakers pushing their trad memes driving the few serious posters away turn the place into a carbon copy of the other troll boards.
The posters of The One book, the Bible, are also to blame. Troll larpers or sincere Christines despise any literature that does not praise their degenerate filth

>nuh uh! It’s reddit, its tripfag, its trannys, its cultural marxism, etc.
It isn’t. Insecure trad-boys post anti-reddit, anti-trip, anti-trans, anti-marxist shit in order to bait drama threads. ITS ALWAYS BEEN THEM

>> No.14657857

>>14657854
what's you age butters? are you married?

>> No.14657858

>>14657837
>Also, its to not too you illiterate hatchet wound.
Wow, you should read a grammar textbook sometime

>> No.14657869

>>14657858
I'm too busy reading Biggest Book of Whiny Cunts. You were the centerfold.

>> No.14657883

>>14657854
>trip/avatarfag decries anonymity on 4chan
Have you considered visiting NeoGAF or SA instead?
Or better yet, killing yourself?

>> No.14657896 [DELETED] 

>>14657450
I'll stop posting political threads. I've been obsessed lately because it looks like this next election is going to determine whether or not we drift toward tranny pseud authoritarianism, it's hard to just watch and have no way to say anything, makes me feel powerless.

>> No.14657906

>>14657896
Imagine being terrified of people critical of capitalism

>> No.14657911

>>14657896
Kill yourself, pseud

>> No.14657912

>>14657450
>accfags
>guenonfags
>lgbt marxists
>polfags
>jannies deleting and banning good threads/effortposts

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>>14657896
Are you really this retarded? Trump literally called for lgbt enforcement around the globe.

>> No.14657921

>>14657906
It's not the capitalism you take issue with, and we both know that.

>> No.14657934

back in MY day... circa 2014... there would have been 3-5 jyce, pynchon, and wallace threads at any given time... you know we really believed in the meme tirlogy then...

>> No.14657942

>>14657921
You’re right, I love dealing with health insurance issues, labor exploitation and debt because the free market totally makes these things easier

>> No.14657948

Twitter screencap threads need ro be banned on basically every board desu

>> No.14657963

>>14657857
Ollllld. Not married. Don’t even care to.
Would like a house full of lovely ladies to kiss and hug and read with, and listen as they made love to each other upstairs.

>>14657883
Newfag, please. You don’t understand /lit/ culture.
>>14657912
>lgbt marxists
Literally none
>jannies deleting and banning good threads/effortposts
Link one.

>> No.14657965

>>14657942
people like you have no understanding of the fundamentals of economics and deserve no seat at the discussion table.

>> No.14657971

>>14657963
you tripfags were the worst thing that happened to /lit/

>> No.14657977

>>14657965
Sowell is a dumb nigger and I don’t give a fuck about creating a good economy for the sake of creating a good economy.

>> No.14657978

>>14657965
That’s what anonymous bootlickers are for

>> No.14657981

>>14657971
>Back when the board was at its best
>Worst
For you!

>> No.14657992

>>14657948
I disagree, Twitter screencaps are effective in discussing topics that normally wouldn’t get traction on a website that feeds off of controversy and memes

>> No.14657999

>>14657977
>>14657978
itt zoom zoom nation

>>14657981
>the state of this board when discord trannies are respected
lol

>> No.14658008

>>14657999
Not an argument.

>> No.14658017

>>14658008
not a single post I replied to had an argument. lmao.

>the state of this board

>> No.14658027

>>14657450
There isn't anything worth reading here, nor does anyone engage anything written here in any meaningful way.

I'ts just so fucking boring.

>> No.14658038

>>14658017
Why should I support the economy just for the sake of having a good economy? What is wrong with wanting something out of it?

>> No.14658071

>>14658038
How can you be critical of something, to the point of advocating dismantling said (something), if you don't even have a counter argument/ideology?? What you're contributing is nothing but complaining.

>> No.14658072

>>14657450
The lack of a worksafe feelsposting containment board. It's fine to have one sort of chat thread on the board like the "What's on your mind" thread, but there's too many incel threads.

>> No.14658074

i have been on this website for over a decade and on every board i've lurked there has been a weekly meta thread like this, lamenting the decline of it. nothing changes

>> No.14658092

>>14658071
I want national socialism.

>> No.14658098

>>14658092
cuck

>> No.14658102

>>14658074
No one ever wants to be the change they want to see

>> No.14658104

>>14657576
Lmao

>> No.14658112

>>14657999
>I did not like the board when the majority of its users read books widely and deeply.
>I was only 12 and posting on /b/ to avoid such gayness!

>> No.14658116

>>14658072
At some point in 2017, trannies began flooding /r9k/ with trap threads, so lots of robots fled to /pol/. The robot and /pol/ack had a synthesis, creating the incel. The incel then colonized every board.

>>14658098
I can’t wait till president Bernie pays for my apartment with your tax shekels.

>> No.14658129

>>14658092
t. neet

Something doesn't come from nothing. It has to be worked for. Again, I repeat, READ ECONOMICS. All socialist countries live in a FAIRY TALE and if it wasn't for CAPITALIST COUNTRIES then the economy would not exist. Do you understand the principle of incentivization??? Why would do something for nothing?? Where would assets come from if not harvested/created, and how would these be paid for in your society?? Printing money is an INEVITABLE failure. It ends in arbitrary bailout, fake number manipulation, literally a FAIRY TALE. Capitalism isn't PERFECT but I've yet to see someone posit a better alternative.

>> No.14658130

Don't discount Twitter
A good number of the posts here revolve around Twitter accounts and screenshots of Twitter

>> No.14658142

>>14658112
are you talking about yourself???? This board is dead. I've been here since before your tripfag existed and you as well as others marked the decline of quality. You realize reading trash is a real thing, right??

>> No.14658144

>>14658129
Capitalism is why every country is being flooded with trannies, faggots, and niggers.

>> No.14658152

>>14658144
No, that's liberalism. Try again.

>> No.14658155

>>14658142
I’ve been here nearly ten years now

>> No.14658172

>>14658152
Liberalism is literally an outgrowth of capitalism. Liberal philosophy developed largely in England for a reason, since they were a massive trading/shipping nation.

>> No.14658185

>>14657450
>What happened to this board?

14 year old pseud' Destiny followers

>> No.14658208

>>14658116
>2020
>not being rich enough not to pay taxes

>> No.14658222

>>14658208
Why would I pay taxes when I get free shit for nothing? lol

>> No.14658233

>>14658222
this is why corona happened desu for people like you

>> No.14658241

>>14658222
I wouldn't know, ask the middle class peons.

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literature has no effect on the world so it's mostly a waste of time outside of personal growth, so people just want to discuss contemporary topics instead of dead people that don't matter

>> No.14658256

>>14658233
I’m in my 20’s and super healthy. I’m 100% sure I’ll survive it. It’s fun collecting free shit in burger land and fucking white girls lmao

>> No.14658276

>>14657450
I left. Im back though.
I just got out of jail. I will return lit to its former glory.

>> No.14658278

>>14658256
>I’m in my 20’s and super healthy. I’m 100% sure I’ll survive it


Pssht, nothing personell kid.

t. the spanish flu

>> No.14658279

>>14658256
Based desu, if you can find ways to not be a wagecuck i commend you. The age of "loving your work" is basically dead

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>>14658278
Cope

>> No.14658303

>>14657793
>Can't go a single post without bitching about women.
You have to go back.
>>>/r9k/

>> No.14658307

>>14658276
How do you plan to do this?

>> No.14658323

>>14657472
End of History I suppose.

>> No.14658331

>>14658253
If you have no appreciation of art, why are you on this board?

>> No.14658337

>>14658303
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect
Fix yourself.

>> No.14658342

>>14658337
have sex

>> No.14658364

>>14657758
I agree I love it

>> No.14658365

>>14658331
i read so i can pretend to be smart since i have nothing else going in my life and since this is the place where other people read...

>> No.14658378

>>14657504
Do you mindlessly browse 4chan just for pleasure? I come here with a thread topic I want to discuss, make the thread, and see what discussion ensues.

>> No.14658383

>>14658342
Fuck off capitalist shill

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>>14658253
>literature has no effect on the world

>> No.14658394

>>14657457
>>14657665
>>14657585
/leftypol/ are worse posters than /pol/

>> No.14658407

>>14658388
i forgot to say anymore

>> No.14658488

>>14657450
The board is now a casualty of metapolitics.
Same obscure philosophers and ideologs that no one gives a shit about.

The place has gone stale.

>> No.14658498

>>14658488
why tho

>> No.14658526

>>14658498
Everyone is just transmitting their shit man, nobody is receiving.

>> No.14658532

>>14657504
Be the change that you want to see.

>> No.14658536

>>14658532
I tried, no one replies

>> No.14658557

>>14658498
far right and far left are tyrannical universalizing midwits who will stop at nothing at imposing their politics on your personal life and hobbies

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>>14658498
People think they'll someone win the metapolitical debate.
If they shitpost more Evola, it'll make everyone more fascist. If they shitpost more Marx, it'll make everyone more Marxist. Etc et al.

It's just another battlefield of midwits planting a flag and trying to win a stupid pointless war. No one here actually creates anything new from old ideas. They just say "read this" or quote shit passages, and expect the sent of shit to be sufficient enough effort to prove its truth.
It's a pseud board for pseudo intellectual people.

I just come here to laugh at the pathos of this place.

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>>14658557
>Violence bad

>> No.14658576

>>14658567
You’ll create something new if yo actually read the authors who critique these popular dialectics. Ever heard of the adage “do what you’ve always done, get what you’ve always got”?

>> No.14658594

>>14658536
Here is a reply, anon

>> No.14658601

>>14657963
>>14657963
I was in lit before you and I think you're a much lower quality poster than any Christian and most /pol/ posters.

Any bastion of intellectual discourse is a threat to the status quo and must be subverted, and so it is no wonder actors emerge to disrupt.

>> No.14658610

>>14658536
This. Even if you are the change you want to see, it's clear no one here actually wants to see it.

>> No.14658618

>>14658576
Not really. That's what the post-modernist thought and look where endless critique and deconstruction got them.
There's no positive construction here.

I come here, I don't learn anything new. I don't come away with any new insight or wisdom. It's not worth the time.
Most of the time here is wasted in battling presuppositions of baseline truth that you can't even initiate a deeper process of epistemology or ethics or metaphysics. Not to mention the insufferable pedantics, sophistry, and glibness of the people posting. Nothing much can be gained from irony and post-irony; especially when the post-irony is just devolving back into irony. Sometimes the memes are entertaining and funny, but man cannot live on memes alone.

>> No.14658630

>>14658129
Wow, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.14658891

>>14658394
This by fucking far. At least /pol/fags can be convinced to read once in a while.

>> No.14659826

>>14657450
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

>> No.14659894

>>14657559
>steep decline
I haven't noticed any difference. /lit/ has been absolutely terrible ever since I started browsing it. Very few discussions are on-topic, and very few of the on-topic discussions contain any discussion of value. This applies to all seasons of the year.
>>14657836
Most of the uni-fags are absolutely terrible. Just as bad, if not worse than the NEETs.
Before this semester started, I did see 1 (ONE) high-quality post, though. Some anon made an argument and sourced at least 4 different plays/poems from Ancient Greek literature to support his argument. If I had to guess, he was either a passionate student or a professor.

>> No.14659904

>>14657450
We lost all our frens...

>> No.14659911

>>14657854
>driving the few serious posters away turn the place into a carbon copy of the other troll boards.
This. This might be the main issue of the board. Discussion is rarely taken seriously here. The high-quality post I reference here >>14659894 did receive a low quality post in response to it. High quality posters get mocked by low-quality shit-flingers, and there is zero benefit to putting any effort into your posts here.

>> No.14659916

>>14658618
Hmm. How do you not learn anything new? There’s plenty of topics I never bother to engage in, but I know if I did it’d be something fresh. Sometimes it takes a little digging and skimming

>> No.14659921

Byproduct of Russia's ongoing divide and conquer tactic on the US.

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>>14657450
I wonder how many of you actually don't like reading IRL but delude yourself being smart for browsing this board

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>>14657450
It's just going through a period of high activity, don't worry about it newfrog.

>> No.14660053

>>14657963
I forgot tripfags. My bad.