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His ideals belong to the sky, and he realized this as much as anyone.
Plato isn't so much about forcing reality to meet the Ideal. He's about getting the ideas right. He refused to water down his idea of perfection for the sake of "practicality". And that is why he is based.

>>14657010
>His ideals belong to the sky, and he realized this as much as anyone.
>Plato isn't so much about forcing reality to meet the Ideal. He's about getting the ideas right. He refused to water down his idea of perfection for the sake of "practicality". And that is why he is based.
They actually belong in a fire.

>>14656968
You sound like a bitch. Without Plato, there would be no Plotinus, and without Plotinus, there would be no Khomeini (pbuh).

>>14657030
Ι thought Khomeini was inspired directly by Plato, what influence did Plotinus have on him?

>>14657040
He was inspired directly by Plato, but Plotinus was also massively important in constructing Twelver Islam(especially in Iran.)

>>14657030
Who cares about some muslim nigger?

>>14657051
Khomeini (pbuh) was a true Aryan, in body, mind, and Spirit. Show some respect, you worthless amerimutt.

>>14657010
This

>>14656968
Your faggot idea of “freedom” is a simulacrum based on a reinterpretation of platonic thought. You wouldn’t be whining about “freedom” if Plato never wrote that shit.

>>14656968
The Republic is the most BASED work of philosophy of all time. The fact that bugmen it makes bugmen screech makes it even better.

>>14656968
The Republic is the most BASED work of philosophy of all time. The fact that it makes bugmen screech this hard makes it even better.

>>14657310
Based Baudrillad fan

So now guenonfag larps as a Persiaboo?

>>14657051
absolutely haram

>>14657325
I’m an Evola fan and an Albanian

>>14657010
I never thought about it like that

>>14657010
>>14657010

>An infinite bucket is a better bucket than one that is actually possible to make and use

>>14657332
How do you feel knowing that Khomeini would have had Evola and every other Occultists and Esotericists killed on the spot?

>>14657323
>Baudrillad
No, haven’t got to any 20th century stuff yet. Working through enlightenment. Even with just this it’s a pretty obvious conclusion. Also OP just got out of intro to philosophy class and was too much of a brainlet to understand the context and causality of his own beliefs.

>>14657350
Jokes on you, Khomeini was a mystic. His ancestors were even ethnic Persians who ruled over Northern India, and were inspired by Hindu thought.

>>14657354
Based.

>>14656968
Learn to read. Reread it again. He says himself he's not being fully serious multiple times and that it's mostly a bunch of early nerd speculation.

>>14657367
Khomeini was sympathetic to Platonic interpretations of Islam but definitely no mystic. Since the religion explicitly forbids any kind of Occultism, he would have even had you killed because of reading those books.

>>14657393
>wrote mountains of mystic poetry
>wasn’t a mystic
Stop posting cringe.

>he thought The Republic was about politics
Filtered

>>14657410
That's a tradition following from Hafez and the rest to write poetry with mystical themes. It proves nothing. His poetry isn't even good.

>>14657387
>He says himself he's not being fully serious multiple times and that it's mostly a bunch of early nerd speculation
that’s just plausible deniability to cover his tracks

>>14657431
Thanks for proving that he was a mystic, lmao

>>14657434
Well then there's neither enough evidence to condemn him nor absolve him of his Large Shitpost.

>>14657475
he tried to bring the tyrant of syracuse into his political program. he was absolutely serious about it

>>14657480
He said tyrants are the worst tier of rulers, didn't he?

>>14657491
yeah, he tried to convert him to platonic political system. he specifically tried to do it with a tyrant because a tyrant has absolute authority so only a tyrant could pull it off if anyone

>>14657497
I have thought that he meant that idealistically, one ruler would be the best and most natural ruler (like God) because one ruler means absolute ideas and laws with no need of a group or other person to rely on jurisdiction.

>>14656968
>If you don't agree with me you should be removed
>Opinions are wrong except my sperg opinion which is totally the truth because I said so
>Muh based incestual eugenics plan to save the world
>If you're living in a democratic state you're bound to fall into dictatorship
Yes.

>>14657048
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>>14657323
didnt he institute some transgender shit to faggots in iran?

>>14658200
There is some weird loophole in the Koran where trannies are allowed. It’s really rare for this to happen in Iran though.

>>14656968
finish the book and you will read the part where he concludes this is all abstraction to illustrate a point and that his society would never work in actual reality

>>14656968
The truth hurts, bitch. The Catholic Church modeled itself after Plato's Republic and look, it's still around today. The only people opposed to the ideas in it are usually debauched and profligate individuals, who as the Savior declares, prefer darkness to light because their deeds are evil.

>>14658247
t. retard reading some annotated shit thinking some pencilneck professor is plato

>>14658275
This.

In a vacuum there is little wrong with Plato’s republic as it stands with the given information and starting from square 1.

Based Playdough, making r*dditors seethe thousands of years after his death.