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14648387 No.14648387 [Reply] [Original]

Have you listened to the free 30 minutes? How can one guy know so much, have read so much, remember it in such detail? How long will I have to endure being a midwit? The IQ people are right. It's just like the incels but for intelligence. I'm never going to make it.

Also, does anyone have the full TekWars thing?

>> No.14648496

>the free 30 minutes
what's that?

>> No.14648529

>>14648496
first 30 minutes of the episode is available on soundcloud.

>> No.14648530

>>14648387
Find a job, moldbug.

>> No.14648554

>>14648529
what are you referring to

>> No.14648565

>>14648554
the official podcast of the TekWar fan network

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>>14648387
Does this guy look like he's malnourished? He doesn't need more money.

>> No.14648586

>>14648579
>It's simple, we eat the egalitarians

>> No.14648600

>>14648387
Literally who? Looks like a deranged autist.

>> No.14648653

>>14648387
If only he knew that The Matrix was founded on a misunderstanding of Baudrillard.

>> No.14648917

>>14648579
Looks like young stanley kubrick, i'm sending this budding artist $5 today

>> No.14649068

>>14648917
t. Kuntbot

>> No.14649077

>>14648579
when will he complete it, bros?

>> No.14649109

i want to hear the rest of this, but lol at paying money for a podcast

>> No.14649189

>>14648653
we know you watch cuck philosophy anon no need to brag

>> No.14649191

>>14648387
i enjoyed it, i wish he had posted the whole episode for free.
if he makes the first 30 minutes free every episode and is consistent with likewise interesting guests i'll pay
>>14648579
i think it was cute how his voice was nervous at the beginning but then steadily became more confident

>> No.14649200

>>14648653
Sounds like you watched a cuck philosophy video and never read Baudrillard.

>> No.14649392

>>14648565
Can you please link what the fuck you are talking about. This is really annoying

>> No.14649399 [DELETED] 

>>14648387
Except for the cultish following he's amassed I don't find him all that exceptional. There are lots of erudite people capable of speaking more eloquently on a broader range of subjects. One such example is me.

>> No.14649402

Can you link the podcast. "Tekwars moldbug' on google gives nothing

>> No.14649403

>>14648387
Kantb0t, get Nick Land on next time.

Also, my friend, did you read Joseph de Maistre? You might find him insightful.

>> No.14649408

>>14649402
https://soundcloud.com/user-552468568

>> No.14649416

>>14649403
A Nick Land + Moldbug would be a great podcast

>> No.14649417

>>14649408
>https://soundcloud.com/user-552468568
:)
I'll listen later. If I like it and the thread is still up, I'll pay $5, download, and post here

>> No.14649425 [DELETED] 

>>14648387
>and, you know, uhhh

>> No.14649503

>and um and um and
jesus he is a bad speaker

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14649585

Here it is. I'll only share share this one.
The great Moldbug:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1P8rp2WlJPSb5lOa6AroFG_grQCETEl19

>> No.14649595

I listened to the free 30 minutes or so and it was pretty boring

>> No.14649646

>>14649585
Thank's dude.

>> No.14649671

>>14649585
Based, can someone post the Nick Land one as well? I can't find it anywhere.

>> No.14649704

>>14648387
>Um
>Uh
>You know

jk, I love the guy. Chad voice too.

>> No.14649961

>Have you read X?
>No
>Have you read Y?
>No
>Have you heard of Z?
>Yes
>Well, have you read it?
>No

Fucking kek, Moldy styling on these midwits

>> No.14650028

>>14648387
>looking up to a midwit like moldbug
Pathetic

>> No.14650097
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14650097

>2 hours of Moldbug content
>30 replies

Dearest /lit/, whither goest thou?

>> No.14650118

>>14649585
I'll Listen to this later are there anymore moldbug sources around? I really enjoy how this dude writes. Its very outside.

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>The clear pill does say you’re in a dome. It says nothing about the real world outside that dome, only that you know nothing about that world—just some facts. It does not even challenge any of those facts. It is made from pure philosophy and contains no jet fuel or steel beams.

>> No.14650156

>>14650097
He talks about GamerGate and Terry Davis too. This is literal gold mang.

>> No.14650171

>>14650156
Oh and he mentions 4chan and how it's been taken over by normals

>> No.14650184

>>14650171
Because some tech jew isn't a normie.

>> No.14650197

>>14649403
He did Nick Land with Richard Spencer and Spencer wouldn't shut up so the episode sucked

>> No.14650200

>>14650184
Not really. There's really not a single truly good tech guy who's a normie.

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>>14650200

>> No.14650215

>>14650197
Post link. Spencer is better than Land, so it's probably good.

>> No.14650238

>have you read
>no
>have you read
>no
>have you read
>no
Poor kantbot

>> No.14650266

>>14650215
file dot io slash pIJX8G

>> No.14650292

>>14650266
nothing

>> No.14650377

>>14648387
> inane history tidbits explained at a snail's pace
> autistic computer programmer logic
30 minutes was enough to understand why neoreaction is doomed yes

>> No.14650397

>>14650377
>that whole post
13 y-o level discourse 2bh

>> No.14650436

>>14649408
>can't stop himself from spilling his autism everywhere because his editor got his title wrong and has to immediately e-mail him
pretty based i have to admit

>> No.14650468

So much good shit they didn't ask him. Otherwise it's a surprisingly good interview. He even talked about his fucking leather jacket lmao

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>>14650468

>> No.14650509

>>14650489
Wow caricature this sure says a lot and is completely conductive to constructive discourse.

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>>14650509
>constructive discourse
>He even talked about his fucking leather jacket

>> No.14650563

>>14650538
He actually used it in a parable about ideological thinking limiting your options, while simultaneously answering a completely unrelated question.

>> No.14650568

>>14650538
I was not that guy. Im just letting you know that are just literally a nigger.

>> No.14650595

>>14650563
>>14650568

>> No.14650596

>>14649189
>>14649200
>watching videos
This is the literature board, you retards. I actually fucking read. The Matrix got the concept completely backwards. Baudrillard's point was simply Nietzsche's but for the modern commercialized era: that there is no distinction between the "apparent" and the "true" world.

Now go back to your containment board / site, wherever that is.

>> No.14650600

>>14650596
holy shit how can you misread nietzsche this bad

>> No.14650601

>>14650596
Twitter.

>> No.14650606

>>14650397
Explaining yourself concisely is a sign of intelligence. Exhausting your detractors by spending 20 minutes explaining a simple point might be a good defensive strategy, but it's tiresome.
And if you don't see the autistic computer logic on display here and in most of neoreaction, then you too might have a touch of it

>> No.14650610

>>14650600
>We have abolished the real world: what world is left? The apparent world perhaps? . . . But no! with the real world we have also abolished the apparent world.
From Twilight of the Idols.

>> No.14650619

It's literally one person who spams these threads. As bad as guenonfag.

>> No.14650622

If plumbing started paying $250k/yearly in prestigious jobs, suddenly you'd have technical theories about the world being a series of connected pipes which power *flows* through and how we need to stabilize and distribute pressure optimally with the correct materials, pipe diameters, and fittings. And you would eat it up

>> No.14650636

>>14650610
lol you dumb ass ... Nietzsche is just paraphrasing dialectical becoming there. he's just saying that when you make the nominalist error of confusing the signified with the signifier you will always be able to deconstruct

reread your hegel buddy

>> No.14650638

>>14650622
That's almost correct. Actual modern Systems Theory is almost exactly that, it even uses the term 'flows'. Doesn't mean it's wrong though. Frankly all this shit about autism etc. is unironic Grug-brainery.

>> No.14650643

>>14650636
>paraphrasing dialectical
>nominalist error
>the signified with the signifier
I don't think your brain is capable of grasping Nietzsche even if you tried. More like go UNread your Hegel, buddy.

>> No.14650662

>>14650643
holy shit imagine being such a pseud you read nietzsche outside of hegel. has anyone ever told you that you're smart other than your mother?

>> No.14650665

>>14650662
Imagine being such a pseud that you read more than what another anon tells you to.

>> No.14650682

>>14650665
?

>> No.14650696

>>14650662
Nietzsche isn't Hegel. They don't share the same philosophical viewpoints. He's not "just saying" what Hegel said in the quote above. Nietzsche did away with truth in the classical sense; it became a function of power under his idea of perspectivism.

>All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.

Further:

>To have and to want to have more—growth, in one word—that is life itself.

Baudrillard was working off this premise when he wrote Simulacra and Simulation. The red pill / blue pill shit is merely a piece of comic irony in the face of that book, both proving it right while horribly misunderstanding it.

>> No.14650708

>>14650596
>t. obvious cuckold philosopher

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>>14650708
You lads seem obsessed with cuckoldry. I wonder why?

>> No.14650749

>>14650638
You're evading my point. I'm saying we live in a time where programmers have inordinate income, status, and confidence in themselves. We should be aware of this when we hold Yarvin up. He's smart but his profession drives his thinking. "When all you have us a hammer, everything looks like a nail"

>> No.14650756

>>14650708
Wait, intellectual hierarchies are cuck now?

>> No.14650762

>>14650749
I'm actually agreeing with you. But again, so what? No model is entirely accurate. All we have is hammers. Besides I think the 'programming' mentality of his writing is quite overstated, often by people who never really read him. I mean, his real early influences were economists and historians.

>> No.14650773

>>14650762
huh?

>> No.14650778

The hegeltards here disgust me

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>>14650778
same

>> No.14650867

>>14650714
>>14650756
Cuckold Philosophers are Cuck Philosophy viewers

>> No.14650879

>>14649416
Has Land actually met Moldbug? If not, someone should get them together.

>> No.14650887

>>14650879
Moldbug would hate Land. They have very little in common.

>> No.14650892

>>14650887
Which would make it all the more entertaining. :)

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>>14650879

>> No.14650906

>>14650887
>Moldbug would hate Land. They have very little in common.

Kek

>> No.14650913

>>14650887
Retard.

>> No.14650921

i wonder how hard it is to be an e-celeb here? all you have to do is write some bullshit, you don't have to actually affect the world in any meaningful way

>> No.14650922

>>14650867
Try writing in English next time.

>> No.14650952

>>14650913
m8, Land just inserted himself into the whole NRx thing because it fit his existing framework. Most NRx type shit actually has very little to do with Moldbug and more to do with the slightly smarter wignats finding yet another narrative to latch onto.

>> No.14650959

>>14650921
It has to be bullshit that nobody thought to write before. Applying Thomas Carlyle to the 21st century was original you have to give him that.

>> No.14650970

>>14650952
the nrx guys all agree with Moldbug that democracy is retarded and that progressivism is a religion descended from Puritan Christianity. They mostly also won't abide any outright antisemitism, MPC used to call them some name implying they were all jews.

>> No.14650971

>>14650921
He's literally personal friends with Peter Thiel and created multiple successful startups that made him rich.

>> No.14650972

>>14649585
based

>> No.14650982

>>14650921
>doesn't know how influential UR was
hello zoomer

>> No.14650994

>>14650982
UR might just be one of the most influential blogs of all time actually

>> No.14651001

>>14650982
Doesn't mean it's good, belieber.

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>>14650952
>. Most NRx type shit actually has very little to do with Moldbug and more to do with the slightly smarter wignats finding yet another narrative to latch onto

You don't know the history of that blog scene. There were branches of NRx...
The "most NRx" type shit you are referring died early on or went off to join the Alt Right. Land considered them communistic populist stuff from the start, and I think Yarvin would agree. The ethno- and theocratic flavors of NRx lost the war of ideas imo and should not even be considered part of "real" nrx, though NRx doesn't totally exclude ethno and religious stuff as a sub-feature of some hypothetical future NRx state

>> No.14651013

>>14648387
>Surname Yavin is used at least 77 times in at least 5 countries. Origin of this name is Hebrew.

>> No.14651040

>>14651012
James Donald is by far the most entertaining of the crowd. I remember some post about him analyzing the consciousness of a spider he had carried on a stick that made me lol a lot

>> No.14651042

>>14651013
I am unironically pro-/pol/, but you should seriously go back there. Retards like you is why we can't make any progress.

Joo, little wignat, joo!

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>>14651040
He's pretty insightful, esp about left wing 'holiness spirals' and their inevitable conclusions. But some of his social views give me the heebie jeebies, ya know?

>> No.14651081

>>14651012
none of these 'traditionalists' have anything to do with actual traditionalism. Not remotely related in any manner lol. Why would you use a term consciously invented to refer to a particular philosophy and apply it to entirely different concepts? Baffling.

Why are anglos so bent on distorting meaning? Their entire political landscape is based on a a distortion of the correct and original use of political term. Right, left, communism, capitalism, liberalism, traditionalism... All of those have had their meanings corrupted in the anglosphere.

>> No.14651127

>>14651051
>some of his social views give me the heebie jeebies
That's precisely why he amuses me so much. He actually follows through with being 'reactionary', his social views are practically cribbed from the fucking Old Testament.

>> No.14651129

>>14651081
stop crying about Anglos jesus christ you people are pathetic

>> No.14651237

>>14651081
>distorting meaning
lmao @ low verbal ability non'gloids who can't keep up

>> No.14651243

>>14648586
fucking kek

>> No.14651525

>>14651051
>But some of his social views give me the heebie jeebies, ya know?
at least he acknowledges what an actual collapse of political power would look like, and how nobody should want to be part of that, while pretty standard leftists and rightists actively push for collapse, which would be a bloodfest

>> No.14651532

>>14651081
>Why are anglos so bent on distorting meaning? Their entire political landscape is based on a a distortion of the correct and original use of political term. Right, left, communism, capitalism, liberalism, traditionalism... All of those have had their meanings corrupted in the anglosphere.
but we are all anglos anon, who is not an anglo by this point? half of the european countries were literally created by anglos and the ones that weren't went balls deep into anglo ideology anyway

>> No.14651571

is it 2014 again or what? who cares about moldstein anymore? anyone who was around back then knows these nrx fags were just silicon valley dweebs larping. they never had any real convictions, any real knowledge or interest in the things they talked about.

>> No.14651590

>>14651571
based larper clearly illustrating the podcast's whole point

>> No.14651608

>>14651571
>larper complains about a person who is literally calling out larpers

>> No.14651627

>>14648387
>muh communism is everywhere

>> No.14651643

that special mention to Aimee's big naturals made me kek

>> No.14651650

>>14651590
not wasting an hour to hear moldstein talk about his dumb ideology. summarise it

>>14651608
nrx fags were a bunch of larpers. tried talking to them on their blogs years ago never got any serious discussions going. it was basically an internet identity to them, a hobby. not too dissimilar from the discord trannies of today.

>> No.14651665

>>14651643
He was actually way more charismatic than I expected. That comment came so out of nowhere it made it even funnier.

>> No.14651686

>>14651650
not like your totally serious political stance, which totally drives you life and it's not larpy at all

>> No.14651696

>>14651665
He was surprisingly funny and articulate. If he works on getting rid of the stuttering then he'd make a great public speaker

>> No.14651917

>>14651686
i dont care about politics. i have no real power so why would i care? i hate ideologues and schoolmarms that think their system of philosophy is going to change the world

>> No.14651979

>>14651917
le ebin radical centrist

>> No.14652516

>>14651917
Moldbug is actually quite apolitical at the core.

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>>14649408
thx

Afaik Moldbug will this month be at an event with Justin Murphy and a few others.

>> No.14652565

>>14652547
Link?

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>>14652547
Justin Murphy just said he's hosting an event in LA and Moldbug would be there.

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>>14652610

>> No.14652650

>>14650696
>>14650662
>>14650643
>>14650636
>>14650610
>>14650600
>>14650596
>>14649200
>>14648653
>>14649189
You aren't even going to quote the man himself?
http://orgyofthewill.net/

>1005. Journey of an Idea, from the heights of Genius to the Gutter.
>1. Friedrich Wilhelm NIETZSCHE: There are no facts, only interpretations.
>2. Jean BAUDRILLARD: You mean that all viewpoints are equal? That the simulacrum is never what hides the truth, that it is truth that hides the fact that there is none? That the simulacrum is true? That there's no reality??? Damn, how depressing!
>3. Laurence and Andrew WACHOWSKI: You mean that there is a clear distinction between reality and illusion? Awesome idea bro, we wrote a movie about it, wanna help film it?
>4. Jean BAUDRILLARD: I said NOTHING OF THE KIND! I in fact said THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you're saying! You are complete and utter morons and I want nothing to do with your stupid movie!
>5. Laurence and Andrew WACHOWSKI: Ummmm, whatever bro, the movie's already out and your book is in the first scene, sorry. We're already working on the sequels!
>6. Mencius MOLDBUG: Hmmmm, The Matrix is such an insightful movie! I especially liked the metaphor of the red and blue pill! Who'da thunk that the distinction between truth and lies is clear-cut and all you need to see it is swallow down a pill! Those Wachowskis are such geniuses! Let me now take this earth-shattering insight and apply it to all our contemporary issues!
>7. Alex "ICYCALM" Kierkegaard: Uhhh, guys, Baudrillard simply misunderstood Nietzsche's perspectivism. Nietzsche wasn't saying that all interpretations are equal, he was merely saying that nothing exists besides interpretations and that it was the Overman's job to impose his own intepretation on his environment just as mankind has been doing since the beginning, and the animals before that all the way back to the Big Bang. [This user has been banned for this post.]
>8. MANOSPHERE: Moldbug is such a genius! It all makes sense now! It's all THE JEWS' fault! (((THEY))) warped reality with all their evil blue pills! They... write books and stuff and they... make movies! DEATH TO THE JEWWWWWWWWWWWS!!!!!!!

>> No.14652659

>>14652650
Also:
>988. Moldbug and the red pill via Baudrillard and The Matrix. The Wachowskis thought that Baudrillard was talking about a fundamental difference between reality and virtuality while his whole point was that in an advanced state of culture they blend together as to become indistinguishable (more real than the real was his metaphor for this). This insight was debased by the artists to the simplistic real-fake opposition and the red-blue pill metaphor. Easier to understand like all binary oppositions, like black and white, 1s and 0s, good and evil. The real "red pill" meanwhile—i.e. the real genius-level insight, which Baudrillard grappled with (mostly unsuccessfully) his whole life long—is that the left is ultimately correct on everything they say and that everything they say makes perfect sense from their own point of view. To grasp their point of view, however, requires genius of interpretation, if you are not one of them (and if you're one of them it's impossible because they are idiots and hence utterly lack the capacity for self-reflection, just like animals do), so it's much easier to label them as "blue pill" and "fake", and it's no wonder why the Anglo child-intellectuals chose this option, and to this day ignore any higher view that smacks the slightest of European genius! The Anglos take the discarded broken toys from the continental Europeans, clean them up as best they can, and set them up on altars and worship them as their supreme ideologies; they assemble their bric-à-brac of petty ideas from the rubbish of continental European thought! Moldbug took his chief idea from A MOVIE, which was already a DEBASEMENT of continental European thought (Baudrillard's simulacra) by a NIHILISTIC continental European philosopher (i.e., ultimately, by a failure) who was himself merely struggling with the ideas of a genius continental philosopher (Nietzsche's perspectivism). And the entire pseudo-intellectual "alt-right" proudly traces its ideology from that! From the gutter of a gutter of a gutter of a gutter!
>And people wonder why I view them as subhuman and call for their extermination.

>> No.14652673

>>14652659
Welcome to my filter.

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>>14652623
what am I looking at there

>> No.14652688

I simply haven't read enough philosophy yet.
I am stuck at Schelling and Hegel now and there is so much more I have to go through before I can get to the soundcloud, blogposters and twitter shitposters.

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>>14652688
I'm 40 minutes in, they only talk about subversive communist ideological dominance of the elites in 1930-1970 America

Moldbug keeps asking Kantbot
>have you read XXX
Like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Stormer

I suppose it's interesting if you got a foil to compare his statements against

>> No.14652734

>>14652675
somebody dropped a penny

>> No.14652754

>>14652650
>>14652659
Hi Alex. I just wanted to let you know that this is the cringiest and gayest thing I have read in my entire life, absolutely without competition:

>968. In the end, if it came to a choice between allying with religious nuts and Jew-bashers, or letting civilization go up in flames, I'd add wood to the fire and burn the whole thing down myself. Let civilization die if the only alternative is going back to the unthinking past. The alt-retards are entirely consumed by religious psychosis and anti-Jewish hysteria, and though I love their civil war plans—since I love war of all kinds, and I'd fight it even for no reason—I'd rather fight them first before turning my attention to their enemies. Hopefully that's where the Iron Man suits will come in. With a few of those, Thiel, Musk and a few of their friends and me could probably turn a few billion subhumans to ashes in a few days. It's either that or the drone army. Or we might have to use both if the subhuman apocalypse turns out to have been too big. Drones or a squad of Iron Men? Or perhaps the Matrix "fry their brains" plan I proposed before? Or more old-school methods like poison in the water supply? How will we solve the Subhuman Question [[[SQ]]], my dear human and superhuman friends? This is the issue that neither the left nor the right are discussing, naturally enough since [[[they]]] are its subject. But that's precisely the issue that will dominate the present century once this book is done and philosophy has ended. As usual, the left and the right are discussing everything except the only thing that ultimately matters: how we'll get rid of them so we can usher in the new era of superhuman supremacy.

>> No.14652762

He also released an article recently:
>https://americanmind.org/essays/rip-globalism-dead-of-coronavirus/
God I hope this means he's going to be more active again. Missed him desu.

>> No.14652769

>>14648387
>American "philosophers"
pass

>> No.14652781

>>14652762
He is, he said as much on the podcast. Cathedral about to get BTFO.

>> No.14652796

>>14650197
Post a link anyway.

Speaking of Richard Spencer, some fresh content, they talked about Carl Schmitt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20r7w5pw3PA

>> No.14652802

>>14652781
lmao

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14652806

>>14652781
Amazing. Haven't listened to it yet, will do in the morning, but very much looking forward to it.

>> No.14652853

>>14648387
>incels but for intelligence

Also known as niggers living in white countries

>> No.14652891

>>14652796
>Richard Spencer
But that's a literal "muh heritage" "white-blood" supremicist.

I think ever decent person is deep down a lefty, so I could only marriage that at most with Landian left-right shitposting

>> No.14652906

>>14652891
>be lefties
>starve 100,000,000 people to death in last 100 years
>clearly we're the only good guys

jesus christ the mental gymnastics

>> No.14652913

>>14652906
I didn't say it works, I said communism is a natural human wish.

>> No.14652978

>>14648387
I like Moldbug, but he's overrated.

>> No.14652999

>>14650130
lmao

>> No.14653048

You guys are living in the 1950s, the rest of us redpilled right wing intellectuals are living in 1350. The masses shouldn't be allowed to own guns, have you seen how much they hurt themselves and others with them already? Do you remember the French Terror? Eventually, all guns should be cryptographically locked and unable to fire without the permission of the sovereign confirming loyalty of the enforcers every 4 hours.

>The standard Patchwork remedy for this problem is the cryptographic chain of command. Ultimately, power over the realm truly rests with the shareholders, because they use a secret sharing or similar cryptographic algorithm to maintain control over its root keys. Authority is then delegated to the board (if any), the CEO and other officers, and thence down into the military or other security forces. At the leaves of the tree are computerized weapons, which will not fire without cryptographic authorization.

https://www.xenosystems.net/tag/moldbug/page/2/

>> No.14653107

>>14648387
>you know
>um
>ya know like uhhh
>um
>you know
>y'uhhhaa uhhh you know
>uhhmm
Imagine actually listening to this and thinking anything involved is intellectual.

>> No.14653168

>>14652650
>[This user has been banned for this post.]
I lol'd

>> No.14653173

>>14653048

its almost like he played guns of the patriots and never got to drebin. retarded idea

>> No.14653183

>>14653173

the market will always outpace government intervention. and what does he have to say about 3D printed guns?

>> No.14653246

>>14653048
How does one become this retarded?

>> No.14653369
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14653369

Is this dare I say the only kino on Gumroad?

>> No.14653611

>>14652754
I am not Alex Kierkegaard, but I agree with that sentiment 110%. The fact that you recoil and cringe while reading it just shows you are not even prepared to admit that there is a problem, which means that you yourself are part of the problem.

>> No.14653660

>don quixote is the quentessential novel of larping
based and clear pilled

>> No.14653666
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>>14653183
lmao enjoy the shitshow tomorrow.

>> No.14653673

>>14652754

his philosophy is dogshit, but i love his style. he really thinks he won't be in a subhuman internment camp with the rest of us

>> No.14653677

>>14653666

nice trips, i'm all in on BTC and link so any instability is good for me (temporarily)

>> No.14653684

Anyone have the spencer land interview?

>> No.14653689

>>14652650

also if we want to be fair to the trannies, they corrected their issue with baudrillard. nobody ever left the matrix, neo included. this is obvious by the third movie

>> No.14653699

>>14653689
The whole point of Baudrillard's philosophy is that there is no leaving and entering the matrix. We are not just all clumped in some matrix which is one and the same for everybody, it is that we are each living in our own matrix, which diverges from everyone elses and is forever inescapable. That is what "perspectivism" means.

>> No.14653705

>>14653684
ok trying again
gofile dot io slash ?c=Cmu1ey

>> No.14653712

>>14653699

i get that, he might be correct in insulting all of the idiots but its a fucking movie first and foremost, not a philosophical treatise. the whole "redpill philosophy" has more or less evolved into a just an alternative set of facts that people can latch on to, there are plenty of people aware now that they never escape the duality. his 'perspectivism' as a cure to solipsism and it's own innovation isn't exactly unique either, when all of the mystic religions directly acknowledge it

>> No.14653719

>>14653705
Seems good this time. Thanks.

>> No.14653772

A lot of historical trivialities and thinking they're in some intelligence club. Yeah I'll pass on this pseud.

>> No.14653959

>>14653772
this, still fun to listen to tho

>> No.14654160

>>14653705
>tfw I have to sit through basic bitch ethnonationalist propaganda to get to listen to Nick dumb down Deleuze
fuick you Kantbot, I know yo udid that on purpose

>> No.14654321

>>14653772
I'm late to the party on these NRx guys, but they all seem to have this air of intense self-satisfaction and fart huffing to them, like they think they're in a special class of humanity for realizing that CNN sucks. if you're desperate for any sort of political edginess then I guess I can see the appeal.

>> No.14654466

>>14651012
>>14651040
>>14651051
>>14651127
>>14651525
Does this guy have a blog post that I can read that's a real primer on his views? I'm interested on his views of what an actual collapse would look like but I don't know where to start with him.

>> No.14654524
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>>14648387
why do people just make threads with no links or context? Does everyone on these fucking boards just always know exactly what they're talking about?

>> No.14654527

>>14654321
you sound like a literal retard

>> No.14654546

>>14654524
It's called not being a newfag

>> No.14654562

>>14654321
I feel like you're complaining about nothing.

>> No.14654577

>>14654546
>newfag
>/lit/
implying anyone lurks this board on purpose

>> No.14654678

>>14654546
I'm the one that posted a link to the full podcast. Not everyone is up to date on twitter meme shit. Lack of link / context was really annoying.

>> No.14654697

>>14654546
Not everyone is familiar with your latest Jewish e-celeb hero, kiddo.

>> No.14654734

I'm uploading the Sam Hyde one right now. I'm liking this podcast so far, but the way gumroad does titles is atrocious. The title is cut off and there's no description. So I can't even find the Nick Land episode..

>> No.14654748

>>14654734
could you upload the moldbug again, I can't download it

>> No.14654763

>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PcB4-aPMVi-U7VACGkoHmh6VzKwp--0P/view?usp=sharing

Sammy Hyde
>>14654748
It still works. Try again
>https://drive.google.com/open?id=1P8rp2WlJPSb5lOa6AroFG_grQCETEl19

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>>14654763
Well it doesn't for me but thanks anyway, seems like gd is temporarily blocking the access because of too many people downloading it. I'll just wait until it gets available again

>> No.14654814

>>14652547
Based Mansion or just the launch of Based Deleuze?

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14654819

>>14654763

>> No.14654832

>>14654819
>>14654772
I'm uploading them to mega where there shouldn't be a problem

It'll be Sam, Nick, & Moldbug

>> No.14654846

>>14654832
Champion.

>> No.14654852

>>14654832
Thanks anon. I was having the same problem.

>> No.14654903

>>14649585
dl doesnt work, can someone upload elsewhere?

>> No.14654964

>>14650238
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH TWITTER INTELLECTUALS BTFO'D

>> No.14654977

>>14649585
File is dead.

>> No.14655023
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14655023

Here
>https://mega.nz/#F!nmwlDSLL!dW_Zfa4P7KxXH15IpS_HjQ

>> No.14655031

>>14655023
why does the fatass use m4a and not mp3?

thanks tho

>> No.14655036

>>14655031
Probably a gumroad thing

>> No.14655042
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>>14655023
A blessing upon your house.

>> No.14655062

>>14655031
because using mp3 is retarded. get a clue.

>> No.14655067

>>14650778
>>14650791
You are probably crypto-hegeltards yourself.

>> No.14655070

>>14651001
Irrelevant. The point is that it was Influential, not good.

>> No.14655091

so what do they talk about? i don't know these guys.

>> No.14655181

lmao, tulsi in Red Scare too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei3plC6Y9EY
too many weird internet crossovers lately

>> No.14655198

>>14655023
nice nice

>> No.14655202

>>14654577
>>14654678
>>14654697
t. newfags

>> No.14655237

>>14648387
>communism as secret society
im only at 30 minutes in but this is an enlightening way to put it, im impressed with this show so far. easily worth 5usd

>> No.14655276

>it was the """"communists""""

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Lyons#Background
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Levison#Life

>> No.14655515

>>14655276
Back to /pol/

>> No.14655645

>>14650238
I was more surprised they didn't know what Eternal September referred to

>> No.14655657

>>14650636
>the nominalist error of confusing the signified with the signifier you will always be able to deconstruct
could you elaborate please? doesnt this btfo most continental philosophy done in the past 70 years?

>> No.14655764

>>14654964
Moldbug consumes unreal amounts of information and still manages to be relatively normal somehow. I mean IIRC he literally mentioned reading straight through a vintage Encyclopedia Britannica end-to-end, just for fun.

>> No.14655779

>>14653660
That is not larping. This is >>14653048

>> No.14655807

quintessential bugmancore

>> No.14656068

>>14654832
The holy trinity

>> No.14656084

>>14655657
no need to rephrase, you seem to have gotten the point. and yes, the answer is yes

>> No.14656092

>hurr durr the alt right is a diverse group with real political agency, don't compare serious intellectuals like Moldbug with profiteer Charlatans like Peterson
>all either of them ever do is seethe over communists they imagine exist
>the only difference is what they call them
fucking pathetic

>> No.14656099

>>14656092
We don't need to hear your opinion, bootlicker.

>> No.14656113

>>14656092
I like the fact that we're so far into late stage liberalism that the best the left can do to defend itself is pretend it doesn't exist.

>> No.14656127

>>14656113
> the best the left can do to defend itself is pretend it doesn't exist.
This. Or blame the things they agree with on capitalism. Or eventually agree that it does exist, but say you deserve it.

>> No.14656130

>>14656099
>>14656113
>this is the argumentation of the self described side of logic and reason

>> No.14656132

>>14655070
Retard. That wasn't the ponit at all. That was your counter.
The absolute state of moldy right.

>> No.14656276

is it possible to get a link to a torrent or something for all the currently released episodes

please respond

i heard its under 30 so should be under 10gb if each is ~250mb

>> No.14656293

>>14656130
Why the fuck do leftists latch on to this ben shapiro meme so hard?

>> No.14656298

>>14656127
cancel culture DOESN'T EXIST, but when it happens IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD and WE SHOULD DO IT MORE

makes me kek every time

>> No.14656304

>>14656293
cause they haven't processed 2016 yet

>> No.14656321

>>14648387
why did the internet and its based "defenders" all turn into PAY AFTER 30MIN BROs?
they all stall for the first 30min as well...
I know why they do this, its just frustrating. This is why I stopped with all of them and just returned to classics. Dont need their nicklandian-hot takes.

>> No.14656339

>>14656321
It is annoying, but some based tekwarriors have dumped the full file in this very thread.

>> No.14656539

Does anyone else find that the land episode hurts a bit to listen to? Spencer shouldn't have been allowed on.

>> No.14656553

>>14656276
p l e a s e respond

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>>14655023
Thanks anon, that works now. Pic unrelated.

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>>14656539
>Spencer shouldn't have been allowed on.
Spencer shouldn't be allowed on anything requiring a deep understanding.
His Bowden interviews were good, mainly because Jonathan's personality was dominant enough to make him shut up and listen.

>> No.14656843

>>14656321
Because they want to get paid. I doubt they’re intentionally stalling for the first 30 mins.

I disagree with it. Patreon is sufficient. And soon crypto will present more alternatives, whether you realize it or not — e.g. tokens are generated every time someone clicks Like on a podcast.

>> No.14656853

>>14656792
I think his streams are high quality. Especially now with that he streams with Edward Dutton.

>> No.14656869

>>14656553
I’m not going to do all that work. I’ll tell you what, if you really don’t have the $5 I’ll give you $10 worth of Stellar (a crypto) and you figure out how to convert it into a Gumroad subscription + upload them to mega. Deal?

>> No.14656926

>>14656869
I've never touched a crypto in my life. But how is it even that much of a work? Just download them all and upload to a MEGA folder? In total it's like what, 5-10 gigabytes? Even third world internet should do it in like an hour while you're dicking around on PC with it working in the background.

>> No.14657076

>>14652913
A humans communal instinct is natural, exploiting it to push a communist government is not.

>>14652891
>I think ever decent person is deep down a lefty
the very essence of the smuggie

>> No.14657151

Warren and Kant please don't have the file removed in here. Us autistic wage slaves are oppressed enough. I Just want to come home and play some monster hunter with Moldbug in the background for god's sake!

>> No.14657240

>>14656853
Yes, mainly because of Dutton.

>> No.14657293

How to avoid getting doxxed if gumroad hacked one day?

>> No.14657338

>>14648387
Literally who?

>> No.14657355

>>14657240
The book talks with those guys (Thamster WitNat) have also been good.

>> No.14657579

>>14648387
someone post link again

>> No.14657941

I'm an hour in, this is unbearable. Dude talks exactly the way he writes, thinking out loud, making all these dumb stretching analogies peppered with leading questions (it's more Socratic that way, you see). It's just so much hot air, so much work for basically a small handful of hard-won insights that aren't even particularly earthshattering. Witness and The Red Decade are like 101 level anticommunist reading BTW.

I dunno I guess maybe you had to be there in the early 2010's blogosphere scene. The Last Psychiatrist and a few others had a similarly meandering informal writing style where every little-known fact or tidbit had to be padded out with 10 paragraphs of navel gazing analysis. Moldbug doesn't even come off as particularly high verbal IQ here; he clearly struggles to articulate things when speaking off the cuff like this.

For a board that complains so much about pseuds you guys really don't know the "person stupid people think is smart" phenomenon when you see it

>> No.14657984

What does 'neo cameralist' mean?

>> No.14658005

>>14657941
Moldbug obviously is not eloquent speaking irl, that doesn't mean he's not smart. In 2007 almost nobody was talking about that stuff. I agree he has a regrettable sophistic tendency at times though.

>> No.14658406

>>14652675
jidf

>> No.14658499

>>14657984
Think like a modern version of the East Indian Company with crypto and plasma rifles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint-stock_company

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so is it true that moldbug had a former idea of turning a country into a for-profit company headed by a CEO (ie a monarchy), but that has been turned into something like city-states armed with micro-nuke deterrent instead? Or has it always been a combo of both?

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>>14658499
>East Indian Company with crypto and plasma rifles
You make it sound like something I want to join.

>> No.14658611

>>14656926
I offered to give you free internet money to figure it out and you’re telling me to do the work for you. I barely know anything about crypto exchanges but was given $90 in Stellar for free. It would’ve taken you a few minutes to make a wallet. In 10 mins I managed to $20 in Stellar into $19 in Bitcoin. I DM’d Kantbot asking if he’d accept Bitcoin and give a promo code.
If he says yes, and someone is willing to download Keybase (a chat app with a Stellar wallet), I’ll give them Stellar and tell them step by step how to do it.
They can then manage the /lit/ TekWars account and transfer to Mega.

It’ll take about a day to do, running mostly in the background, on a free mega account

>>14657941
He is obviously very intelligent. I don’t think people go to Moldbug for a definitive treatise, but rather a broad range of topics through the lens of his nuanced, NRx worldview

>>14658524
I’m interested to know. Haven’t touched Patchwork yet.
There is the The Charter Cities Institute (run by a millennial). I know Moldbug criticized the boomer that came up with the idea, but this can definitely lead to a CEO-run city-state.

>> No.14658645

>>14658524
His understanding was that the state already is a for-profit corporation, but pretends not to be. Everything we call 'waste' or 'nepotism' is really just hidden profit shares. The only way to hold the state to account, then, is to admit what it is and formalize it.

>> No.14658688

>>14658499
I'm about to coom

>> No.14658778

>>14658611
No, it can't. There is no feasible way to take territory from the US Empire (which owns the entire world sans China) and make a sovereign polity from it, no matter the system you use, short of armed rebellion. This is one of Moldbug's weaknesses (anything having to do with the military or Jews). Wherever you go, it will follow, and attempt to re-integrate you (thereby robbing your polity of its sovereignty), or just outright obliterate you. Rhodesia and SA are examples of what will happen if you try to make better use of the Third World, by the way.

>> No.14658801

>>14658778
Moldbug's idea iirc was to subvert the US from within the same way that the progressives subverted eg. the UK over the past 400 years. Though there were a few rebellions, the monarchist side didn't put up that much of a fight.

>> No.14658815

>>14658778
>It's another episode of "wignats don't realize that an ideology designed to cater to psychotic trench veterans doesn't have any pull with 20th century cubicle mushmen"
Moldbug is similar to BAP as far as his views on how to go about fighting the good fight. He's more concerned with long term strategies.

>> No.14658819

>>14658815
*21st century cubicle mushmen

>> No.14658873

>>14658801
Moldbug says no such thing. His whole plan in his series of posts on Rules for Reactionaries amounts to "do nothing, become worthy of power, and then it will be given to you", which is absolutely retarded considering the state of world affairs (BAP is more right than Moldbug on this account: cunning devious scoundrels win in politics, not nerds).

>>14658815
His long term strategies are garbage.

>> No.14658882

>>14658873
>do nothing, become worthy of power, and then it will be given to you"
It will be given to you because the elite have decided they like you. Which means building his antiversity and whatnot. It's subverting the dominant culture.

>> No.14658905

moldbug spends a lot of time explaining the Real History of the 20th century in the first 40 minutes i've listened to. it's interesting, but i'm wondering to what extent can i trust his account.

>> No.14658913

>>14658778
>US Empire (which owns the entire world sans China)
Well that's not true at all. We're definitely talking about making better use of the 3rd world. Trying to do anything within the US is sisyphean.

Again, The Charter Cities Institute is a thing that is real. It doesn't need to be framed to the world as anything other than a humanitarian effort. The group / company at the center of this change will effectively become the ruling regime.

The US wants economic integration more than anything. It's always been allied with plenty of dictators.

>> No.14658918

>>14658882
>It will be given to you because the elite have decided they like you.
You mean the same elite that run pedo sexual blackmail networks? The same elite that come across as malevolent parasitic warmongering nation-wrecking scum? Again, BAP is right. Nerd political epistemology is extremely naive if you think you can win these guys to your side (also says something about your personal morality that you want to "win" these people over).

>> No.14658920

>>14658918
I pretty much agree it's retarded, I was just explaining his take on it. He saw that the progressives seemed to have won somehow culturally before politically/militarily so I guess he was emulating that.

>> No.14658976

>>14658801
Won't work, because the institutions are setup specifically to prevent you from getting in. They are innoculated. You cannot summon up the will and the hatred that a Bugman can, and you will eventually be sniffed out. Assuming, of course, the US doesn't just outright do what all Empires do, which is turn the Felaheen and Augusti against you (That is to say, simply ban White men from joining the armed forces, or government bureaucracies).

>>14658815
>>14658913
You're both making the same mistake that Moldbug does in that you're assuming that the people in charge, of any and all races including Jews, are perfectly rational Fnords looking to maximze their joint slayyyyy. They're not. They're people, most of them are pretty fucking dumb, and they are all, every last one of them, loaded with their own biases. Many either sincerely believe in an ideology that views you as a slave. They will never listen to anything you have to say, because you're a racist KKK drumpf voting hick. Have you people even read Anti-Semite and Jew? The deck is stacked against you from the start. There is no way you can possibly offer these people anything, let alone be given the ability to even try and have something, as you, by virtue of being a Bad-White, are by definition worthless and enacting violence upon you is morally justified. That was the entire fucking point of the Nuremberg trials: to establish global US (Anglo-Israeli) Empire over the whole globe. That was the entire point of decolonization. The US didn't let Rhodesia and SA stand to see if they had anything to offer, or could come up with novel ideas, because their very conception (sovereignty independent of the US) is inherently antithetical to the very moral conceptions of US Empire.

Moldbug is very useful for having created a descriptive framework, but he's hopelessly stuck in 2010s Silicon Valley, where the US is run by hyper-rational technocrats who want to maximize their gold accumulation. It isn't. It's run by Jeff Bezos, who spent his superbowl weekend trying to get some fat negress to take selfies with him, and by the men described in >>14658918.

>> No.14658989

>>14658976
>It isn't. It's run by Jeff Bezos, who spent his superbowl weekend trying to get some fat negress to take selfies with him,
Spandrell is very on point about this subject, all the status games

>> No.14659024

>>14658989
This is also something Marx mistook, by the way, which is something Spandrell has touched on: The assumption that the factor being maximized for is profit in a purely material sense. It isn't. Past a certain point, Elites stop maximizing for material gain, and start maximizing for status.

Status is gained by punching Nazis. What you, >>14658913, are suggesting is taking Nazi Germany, and moving it somewhere else. It won't work, because there's status to be gained by hunting you down and making bloodsport of you on television.

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>>14658976
Sort of a tangent but something that has occurred to me lately is that the whole Foucauldian / Alinsky monomaniacal obsession with power as the single human social motive IS actually correct in a pragmatic sense, i.e. whosoever behaves /as if it were true/ regardless of whether it actually is, will be willing to lie, cheat, slander, libel and do other Machiavellian things to attain power. Whether it's Foucault, Marcuse or the Alinsky playbook, the roads really all lead to the same place. You do whatever you have to do to get people who think like you into elite positions, gatekeeper positions where they can control hiring and firing, influencer positions where they can shape narratives etc. Do not stop, do not pass go, do not try to win people over in the "marketplace of ideas". Hammer out the finer doctrinal points later, after you've achieved power.

>> No.14659079

>>14659072
In so far as there is any human agency, yeah the amoral obviously have upper hand, they by definition have more options. The extent to which any individual or group actually controls society at large and the unfolding of history is a separate issue though. The way power ends up being distributed is not as simple as a sociopath conning some people.

>> No.14659111

>>14658976
You seem to have some kind of zoomer brainrot from being red pilled so recently (within the past few years)

>>14659024
>taking Nazi Germany, and moving it somewhere else
I’m thinking of a fascist techno-utopia with libertarian characteristics. So a lot closer to modern Germany than Hitler’s.

An American version of China’s Singapore.

>> No.14659178

>>14659111
You seem to be new to this whole thing, and don't get what's going on here. Your throwing out buzzwords as if that defines how things work demonstrates this. It's understandable, this is a lot to take in. I cannot sum this up in a 2k character post, so I'll try. The US runs a global empire (A good rundown on how this works: https://jacobitemag.com/2019/12/14/the-geopolitics-of-liberalism/).). If you want a good rundown of how people within "This Thing" have behaved in the past, read this, there was quite a stir when it came out: https://hammerandanvilmyblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/a-brief-history-of-the-white-nationalist-movement/

You can never be "America's Singapore". Singapore is America's Singapore. Singapore is not sovereign, it is entirely part of the US Empire. The entire moral impetus of the US is stopping Nazi Germany. The Nuremberg Trials are the culmination of this: America invading a foreign, sovereign territory, and establishing its own moral order via violence. The entire American conception of world order is based around this. America can go anywhere, do anything, and if someone doesn't want America, America is justified in levying violence against them to make them do what America wants. You can never escape. Even if you manage to carve out some slice of territory and somehow keep people from physically entering (There is nowhere except China and NK on the planet where this is the case), you are required to have the US Financial system within your polity.

>> No.14659198

>>14659178
you seem to be forgetting Russia and Iran. and maybe Israel, hard to say what the fuck's going on there

>> No.14659200

>>14653712
It's much more than a cure to solipsism. This is only the most obvious and immediate consequence. For instance, "mystic" religion itself is obliterated by it, as well as platonist idealism, as well as equality, as well as pythagorean and euclidian tyranny, as well as absurdity like the universe being mathematics, etc.

>> No.14659213

>>14659178
What you are suggesting is, yes, taking Nazi Germany and moving it somewhere else. Nazi Germany's crime was attempting to, violently, establish itself as sovereign of the global financial system. You do not have to have jackboots, swastikas, and mustaches to be "Nazi Germany", because those aren't the reasons why Nazi Germany is "evil". Nazi Germany didn't want America, so Nazi Germany had to go. That is why Nazi Germany is evil.

Anywhere you attempt your "fascist techno-utopia", you will be chased down by Jeff Bezos, Lizzo, Charles Schumer, and Jeff Osteen. The American Empire cannot tolerate any sovereignty but its own. It physically cannot, for the same reasons that everyone in the US is so worried about China. The entire American Empire is predicated on an enormous panopticon, wherein the Elite can see everything and know everything, but every individual cell can only physically see the Elite, but not know what they're doing. Black boxes of sovereignty, such as China (Iran is a special case, I mistyped in my prior post) cannot be tolerated as they allow people to game the system. This gaming of the system is done by some entity other than the Elite in the panopticon being allowed to engage in in-group self interest (this is why you're not allowed to kick Blacks out of your church, by the way).

South Africa and Rhodesia tried exactly what you're suggesting: Let us fuck off, and do our own thing, and we won't bother you. We'll even share our ideas with you. Do you know what the US did? It threatened to nuke Johannesburg if Apartheid didn't end.

>> No.14659233

>>14659198
Israel is part of the American empire. I mentioned Iran here>>14659213. Russia is actually quite porous with the American Empire, but for similar reasons to China (holding a massive amount of some resource) it is able to maintain a modicum of in-group control. It is, however, the third man in the US-China-Russia trifecta, and is only really a super-power because the US elite are too incompetent to just get rid of Iran. There is no reason China and Russia should ever work together other than to try and deal with the US, and it would not surprise me in the least if Russia were to collapse within the next 100 years.

>> No.14659253

>>14659233
>Israel is part of the American empire
kind of understates the relationship...Israel is allowed to do stuff to other countries(to poor brown Muslims no less) that nobody else is, apart from the US themselves. Israel has even literally attacked the US military and gotten away with it.

Also I would give Russia more credit than you're doing, they have resource-rich land, a strong military including nukes, and a distinct culture, though it's being eroded by mass media like the rest of the world.

>> No.14659297

>>14658611
Give me your throwaway e-mail and I'll contact you in ~10 hours

>> No.14659321

>>14659178
You’re vastly over estimating American power. Venezuela, Argentina, et al exist in South America as states that often run counter to US interests. And that’s in our own backyard.

Singapore is more China’s than America’s. A majority of the population is Chinese. The US is allied strongly with Japan and South Korea in Asia, but that’s about it. The Philippines and Vietnam seem to favor Russia.

The EU is increasingly it’s own thing, India is rising, and much of the Muslim world hates the US.

There are just so many more players on the grand chessboard than your idiot zoomer brain realizes.

>Even if you manage to carve out some slice of territory and somehow keep people from physically entering
Why the fuck would I want to keep people from entering? Westerners would get a quick path to citizenship and English would be the new language of the country. Taxes and policies favorable to business.

>>14659213
Are you the same poster I was responding to above? You have a very narrow minded view of elites.
Many elites in Silicon Valley have expressed interest in similar things. Y Combinator had a speaker (millionaire investor) talking about a company-led state. Peter Thiel (billionaire investor) cofounded the Seasteading Institute & is critical of democracy.

Bezos taking a picture with Lizzo doesn’t mean much. If there was a city to test out Amazon delivery drones (censors on top of buildings), communication with cell towers through the city, and drop off stations - then Bezos likely wouldn’t just support it, but would probably invest in the infrastructure.

>> No.14659322

>>14649585
Kantbot the kike deleted it
I want to here him namedrop books for another 2 hrs

>> No.14659323

>>14659297
I’m Authoritarian on Keybase. Find me there

>> No.14659334

>>14659322
Try here >>14655023

>> No.14659363

>>14658524
moldbug wants to create outer heaven like BAP does
Hideo Kojima is 12 steps ahead like always

>> No.14659390

>>14659253
Stop thinking in things in terms of "Israel rules the US" or "the US rules Israel". The Cathedral has no central authority, every part of the American Empire exists because it is part of the American Empire. The nobility is just as willing to do business with Israeli billionaire Schlomo Goldbergstein as they are with American billionaire John Smith VI or Chinese billionaire Bing Bong Lee. Israeli is a convenient beachhead in an area of the world that was historically competent enough to create sovereign societies outside of the system. Africans have never been competent enough to do such a thing so why would anybody entertain exceptions when there doesn't have to be exceptions? Tearing down an apartheid state like Israel or Rhodesia returns considerable status, so if there's nothing to be gained from keeping said state around why not just tear them down?

>> No.14659406

>>14659390
Im just saying that the behavior of Israel is strikingly different than other US client states like England or Germany or whatever. The balance of power has to be a bit more complicated with Israel. The Left, while in general retarded, have noticed this about Israel and spend a lot of time shouting about it.

>> No.14659443

You've got my curiosity. Please explain "outer heaven."

>> No.14659455

>>14649646
can't tell if ironic apostrophe or not

>> No.14659459

>>14658976
>ou're assuming that the people in charge, of any and all races including Jews, are perfectly rational Fnords looking to maximze their joint slayyyyy. They're not. They're people, most of them are pretty fucking dumb, and they are all, every last one of them, loaded with their own biases. Many either sincerely believe in an ideology that views you as a slave. They will never listen to anything you have to say, because you're a racist KKK drumpf voting hick. Have you people even read Anti-Semite and Jew? The deck is stacked against you from the start. There is no way you can possibly offer these people anything, let alone be given the ability to even try and have something, as you, by virtue of being a Bad-White, are by definition worthless and enacting violence upon you is morally justified.

I think this point isn't emphasized enough. It's common to view the ruling class as being sociopathic wealth maximizers or power-expanders proceeding in accordance with some historical/economic law, and that their beliefs are merely a consequence of this.

For example:
>The Civil Rights Movement was an example the elite centralizing power through appeal to the periphery under the pretext of fighting racism and
When in reality they wanted to fight racism and saw that it was necessary to expand the central government to do it. They really believe in the things they say they do in many cases.

>> No.14659475

>>14658976
>Won't work, because the institutions are setup specifically to prevent you from getting in.
This is the standard excuse for not trying. How do they know that you are an infiltrator exactly? Do they have magic powers? I know for a fact that there are people in high places who are hiding their power level.
>You cannot summon up the will and the hatred that a Bugman can
If you can't, that's fine. Don't apply your limitations to your betters though.

>> No.14659500

>>14659459
It's not so easy to disentangle the two. You'll notice these types are not interested in volunteering at soup kitchens. Their philanthropy always takes the form of...them getting more power. So yes they care somewhat about 'fighting racism' but really what they enjoy is the feeling of power simultaneous with righteousness. All the better if it also involves smashing their enemies.

>> No.14659515

>>14659406
I'm just saying the geopolitical position of Israel is significantly different than other US client states like England or Germany. I explained to you the logic behind why Israel gets so many free passes and you just ignored what I wrote and repeated yourself

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>>14658688
Make sure you do it in your company-assigned wife. Our eugenics program needs good coom.

>> No.14659533

>>14659515
Yeah I don't buy it. They'd still get the benefits of having a US aligned state there if they were strongarming them. It's pretty clear Israel can just do what it wants to a great degree.

>> No.14659586

>>14659500
> So yes they care somewhat about 'fighting racism' but really what they enjoy is the feeling of power simultaneous with righteousness. All the better if it also involves smashing their enemies.
Accurate

>> No.14659588

>>14659533
You're still not actually engaging with anything I said you fucking retard. Israel exists because historically Muslim Arab societies are neither open to playing ball with The Cathedral like Europe nor are they incompetent enough to be left alone like Africa. Throughout the Cold War the Arab World was almost entirely hostile to The Cathedral and many parts of it were actively attempting to create a cohesive system to compete with it. Israeli society has always had it's ass spread wide for the prevailing Western Globohomo, Tel Aviv is a fucking gay paradise.

>> No.14659626

>>14659588
Israel existing is not the same thing as Israel being allowed to do whatever it wants. You are explaining why it exists, not why it has autonomy to do what Europe is not allowed to.

>> No.14659651

>>14659626
They're the same thing you stupid nigger, apartheid states can't exist if they're held to the same standards as occupied Germany.

>> No.14659654

Can someone give me a reason to be interested in politics?

>> No.14659660

I love listening to extremely well read people like Moldbug who breathe literary references and knowledge as they speak. It inspires me to read more

>> No.14659678

>>14659654
Moldbug's entire point is that you shouldn't be.

>> No.14659684

>>14659651
Is that so? Why doesn't Israel treat their Muslim population the way France does? Why do they have genetic testing for their citizens? These are just necessary aspects to having a country in the middle east somehow?

>> No.14659762

>>14659684
Because they're an Apartheid state you stupid fuck, how many times do I have to say the same thing over and over again while you ignore it? What happened when South Africa had to treat niggers like equals? The country became African. If Israel becomes Palestinian The Cathedral loses its beachhead. Does your tiny nigger brain get it?

>> No.14659763

>>14659678
That's pretty funny. I just never saw a point in taking in canned ideology that distracts you from how fucked your reality is

Sometimes I wish I could delude myself into a party to believe we're making 'a difference'

>> No.14659773

>>14659762
But the cathedral doesnt care about losing an entire continent to MENA? Weird logic you have

>> No.14659795

>>14659773
Because in the ME having Israel means power. In Europe having an army of dumb identity-less mud people means power. How's that hard to understand?

>> No.14659806

>>14650867
Cuck Philosophy only chose the name because he was called a cuck 50 million times by projecting blacked.com viewers wearing MAGA hats. the fact those same people assume he must be a cuck because of his ironic channel name are just continuing this same projection

>> No.14659821

>>14659795
So the mudpeople's presence weakens the Cathedral's ability to control Israel, but doesn't weaken their ability to control the European countries. Doesnt make very much sense.

>> No.14659873

>>14659821
Their presence is not a threat to the Cathedral. Their control of sovereign states is.

>> No.14659890

>>14659773
The threat of losing Europe to MENA is not immediate and only really a possibility in several decades assuming demographic trends hold steady. If Israel had to give citizenry to Palestinians tomorrow it would become Palestine. Hard-right Zionists are falling out of favor in Israel anyway.

>> No.14659901

>>14659443
Big Boss, the legendary soldier-cum-mercenary establishes a military nation state as an 'Outer Heaven' for soldiers and mercenaries to escape the ideology and control of the Patriots/globalist technocrat NWO (the Cathedral). His independence is granted by the intercontinental nuclear threat that his Metal Gear mech poses
Metal Gear Solid 101

>> No.14659918

>>14657151
what weapon do you use

>> No.14659925

>>14659901
>soldier-coom-mercenary
amirite?

>> No.14659930

>>14659925
heckin epic and based pilled my duderino

>> No.14659951

>>14659762
most of the Arab states post-WW2 were somewhat pro-US lel, it was the US's monomaniacal support for Israel that drove them towards an anti-US position.

>> No.14659965

>>14659951
there were key government officials who literally said "You know, these people are on the oil that civilization needs to run, so we should probably not recognize Israel because it will piss them off." We did it anyway. Coincidentally many of these same officials were quickly marginalized, purged or "committed suicide".

>> No.14659983

>>14659951
Half of the Arab state post-WW2 ended up being taken over by nationalists who wanted to create sovereign ethno-state with a system independent of the communists and the antianticommunists. Wow why would The Cathedral ever jump through hoops to stop that?

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>>14659901
Unironically the best possible future.

>> No.14660121

>>14659321
I don’t buy into all of the geopolitical stuff, but the cold hard truth of thing (at the moment) is:
If you fuck off to Botswana or wherever and build your successful city state. It won’t be long before Citibank or someone else stops by and says, “we have some great products for your people.” And if you turn that corrupt bloodsucking organisation away, or make things hard for them the boots gonna come down hard on your ass, and you’ll have to bend over, or die.

>> No.14660313

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>> No.14660562

>>14649392
I think its some kind of grift? Subscriber only self help talks or something?

>> No.14660576

>>14649392
Kantbot has a podcast. Look it up, it's called tekwars. Kantbot is a twitter user who thinks he's super smart and people have taken notice in him.

>> No.14660761

>>14659901
damn
I should get some nukes too

>> No.14660790

>>14659918
GS, LS and Hammer. From most to least used.

>> No.14660810

>>14660576
fuck off Kantbot you fat fuck I'm sick of you shilling on here
sage

>> No.14660830

>>14660810
also bump limit fuck you Kantbot stay off my literature board

>> No.14660838

>>14660576
Kantbot, if you're going to come here you have to tell us how Trump is going to complete the system of German Idealism.

>> No.14660937

Holy shit, I get why he gets mentioned here now. He came off as extremely based, despite the stuttering.

>> No.14661020

>>14659321
>The EU is increasingly it’s own thing, India is rising, and much of the Muslim world hates the US.
the EU currently is just a moral elite within the American empire because it has outsourced most of its defense to America, so it can ignore geopolitical games while pretending to play moral games instead, while somebody else cover the EU meanwhile

>> No.14661025

>>14659321
you know Peter Thiel is literally friends with Moldbug and highly probably financing him, also financing most of the """Intellectual""" """Dark""" Web and other """outsiders""" like BAP

>> No.14661069

>>14661025
Thiel financed Urbit through one of his funds.

>> No.14661148

>>14660838
>>14660810
Lol, I'm not Kantbot and I'm definitely not a fan of his, but it's inarguable that Land & co. have some respect for him. I even saw Ariel Pink praise him on his music taste once.

I find Kantbot's misogyny repugnant and immature and that keeps me from thinking he has anything good politically to say. Plus, I'm a Hegelian.

>> No.14661171

I WANT A PODCAST WITH (A) LAND (B) MOLDBUG (C) THIEL ALL TOGETHER IN THE SAME PODCAST KANTBOT YOU PIECE OF SHIT

>> No.14661195

>>14661171
He won't get Thiel. Thiel is too smart to be caught in anything near that type of company.

>> No.14661248

>>14661195
I agree. He is hiding his power level.

>> No.14661307

>>14652650
Retard stop commenting on Jim's blog.

>> No.14661333

>>14661025
Yes I do know. I’d be willing to bet he put money into The Charter Cities Institute also.

Is this supposed to disprove something?

>> No.14661340

>>14661148
Misandry is a lot more popular and widespread than misogyny, and yet I bet you only shame misogynists. Strange

Why can’t people like you just stay at reddit

>> No.14661366

>>14661333
not really so much of a point, i guess i would just add that some of the new internet billionaires came from an internet background and were somewhat unhinged and naive, they were also let free reign for as long as they produced money and the normie elites didn't understand the internet, but that kind of finished on 2016 and those people are being choked out through the diversity mafia, or left to exist as long as they get in line and be more or less quiet

i guess they kind of touch on this when Moldbug was talking about Facebook at some point and the need for Urbit if we want to escape

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>>14650636
That is a great point.

>> No.14661648

>>14661366
>it’s the evil, all powerful elites that used to let these tech plebs have free reign
Honestly, you might develop schizophrenia by the time you turn 27

Peter Thiel is more wealthy than most elites. He is an elite. And your ultra elite God Jeff Bezos is a tech guy too.
It’s not like they were bestowed permission to build a company. Venture Capitalists wanted to make money.

The twitter / diversity mob has already reached peak power and the illusion is starting to wear off. Cancel culture was never created by the elite, but of course they always want to save face. Many CEO’s and politicians have been ousted in the wake of scandals.

There are various interest groups with various agendas in the US. It’s not run by any single elite regime.

>> No.14661739

>>14650749
to an uzi everything looks like a watermelon