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>I should kill radioshack wageslaves to fix society
he wasn't the misunderstood genius his cringey joker fanbois make him out to be

>>14642681
None of them ever are
Especially not joker (2019)

>>14642672
Taking a huge dose of acid and being psychologically fucked with might have had something to do with it.

>>14642681
He objectively was a genius though, that's why he got into MIT so early. Doesn't mean he didn't end up mentally ill, but you don't need to detract from his intelligence, he was almost definitely smarter than you.

>>14642743
he got into Harvard you ignorant fucknut

jesus the same goes for all of you ignorant fucknuts. you watch some shit on TV and you see some mugshot with a tagline "Twisted Genius" and you're all experts now. It's fucking appalling.

>>14642743
he got into harvard so he's a genius? I suppose you think people like Niall Ferguson and Alan Dershowitz are intelligent?

I may not be as smart as teddy boy but I managed not to get myself thrown in ADX Florence so I have that over him.

>>14642765
>muh I never risked my freedom for anything so I must be better

He was the youngest professor of mathematics in the history of UC Berkeley at 25. He solved mathematics problems that his superiors where working on for years in a matter of months. He won the Lawrence B Sumner prize for top dissertation. He had mathematical proofs published in top journals before he was 27. He was educated under Willard Van Orman Quine and was his top student. He's published two of some of the most groundbreaking works of history and philosophy from behind the walls of the worlds most secure prison. He evaded the FBI for 17 years and was only discovered because his brother betrayed him.


you really are a stupid fucknut.

>>14642752
>>14642765
My mistake, he got into harvard at age 16 because he was academically gifted and tested at an IQ of 167.
So yeah, he was still obviously a genius even if I got the university wrong.

>>14642672
You need to be 18 to post on this board

>>14642808
lol. this, actually. this thread is stupid.

>>14642808
as if people who idolize ted in 2020 are over 18

>>14642793
He was jerking off in a cabin and eating mush and mailing bombs to literal who's for 17 years and now he's jerking off in a cell eating mush and he hasn't seen the sun or touched another human being for 30 years and he never will again.

Big fucking whoop. Take your mathematics and shove it up your ass, nerd.

>>14642815
I still havent heard any argument against what he did except for Slave Moralist cucks screeching
>b-b-but killing is BAD

>>14642743
There is no such thing as mental illness you fucking normalfag

>>14642820
He became mentally ill. That doesn't mean he wasn't intelligent. You don't have to idolize him to acknowledge the facts of the situation. Why are you too retarded to grasp this concept?

>>14642820
lol

>>14642823
t. escaped schizo

>>14642824
you really are stupid or shallow minded if you believe this.

>>14642828
t. hasnt read Deleuze

Read theory you fucking brainlet

>>14642823
you probably think trannies are mentally ill faggot shut the fuck up

>>14642833
you don't need to read philosophy to understand how it works. you just can't be a brainwashed idiot.

>>14642825
>no argument so I'll post soijack
lol
>>14642824
I acknowledged he may technically be intelligent on paper, but look what he's done with it. The reason he appeals to so many sad edgy losers is because they love the idea that their latent potential and under-stimulated minds are evidence that they're "smart but lazy" and if they wanted they could change society. This idolization of a terrorist and his midwit manifesto is nothing but a pathetic power fantasy by cucks who hate liberals and communists.

>>14642801
>american education
big cringe from me

>>14642842
you didn't make an argument yourself and only lashed out with ad hominems, that's what I'm ridiculing.

and that's a nice theory you've put together. but it's simply not true. i'm sorry you can't appreciate the manifesto, but it describes real processes in our society. and these processes are affecting you and will increasingly affect you, to your great detriment.

Many many other respectable people have recognized the importance of his writings, the vast majority of other people are too timid to speak out for obvious reasons.

If it's just too big an idea for you to swallow--if it's just too hard to believe that he might have a lot of important and unique things to say--then this is understandable given the amount of propaganda made about him. In this case, i forgive you.

>>14642860
It is I who will be forgiving you when you turn 18 in a couple years and realize how narrow your adopted worldview is.

Please explain to me how modern society is not a dystopia.

>>14642873
I'm 62

>>14642875
It is. The people hating on Ted here are just 16 year old Zoomers Coping with the fact that they were born at one of the worst times in history

>>14642881
this. but they could just be older ignorants too.

>>14642672
And he was stalked by glowniggers.

>>14642892
don't ever reply to one of my posts again, redditor.

>>14642907
cringe

>>14642875
Wait until you get some pussy, then come talk to me, incel

>>14642875
Because I haven't died of smallpox or starvation yet.

>>14643006
You realise that normal people pay big pharma tens of thousands of dollars let alone people with serious health problems who pay hundreds if not millions of dollars right?
And all these people are kept alive and in working condition by big pharma using pills that make you go insane, addicted, impotent, whatever the side effects are, they'll keep you in working condition.
You know why?
Because they have to squeeze every penny out of you before you get terminal illness and die as on a thousand dollar hospital room while hooked up to equipment that costs three thousand more and all those are paid by your family.
Doctors become doctors for money and that's been the case since forever. If you think doctors actually care about your health, they do but not out of compassion or whatever, it's the potential cash they can squeeze out of you in the future if they keep you in working condition with whatever side effects of the drugs so that they have to treat the side effects and the cycle goes on and on until you die leaving a massive fucking hospital bill to your family.

>>14643046
who is this "they" you keep referring to?

>>14643046
So dying of smallpox or starvation would be better?

>>14642875
>I get banned for saying nigger on reddit and my classmates always pick me last for dodgeball so we live in a dystopia

>>14643006
Exactly: people like you don't die of smallpox or starvation anymore.

>>14642793
Is this the intellectual version of a gorgeous model who has been discovered early in life? Well, except that he got fucked.

>>14643046
don't be american

>>14643137
You need to be 18 to post on this board

>>14642907
cope

>>14643006
you realize that's totally overblown. past age 6 or 7 primitives lives about the same lenght as modern people. actually they lived a lot longer if you consider all of the boring degrading standing around and waiting and nothing that modern people are forced to do. and anyway, the child mortality has to be high just to ensure there isn't overpopulation and planetary destruction.

>>14643837
explain how he "got fucked" now.

>>14642742
He was never given LSD, and he was fucked in the head way before that Harvard experiment ever happened.

>>14643137
Explain the increasing rates of obesity, drug addiction and suicide that is barely even acknowledged. It's clear that the psychological stress is building up and nothing is being done about it. The modern US is very clearly dystopian and you are stupid to deny it.

>>14642860
Are you OK, anon? His writing has zero influence on society. People who have sex don't think about this sort of shit at all.

He killed a timber industry lobbyist and an Enron PR guy. The airplane he was going to bomb was full of "business" people. He was based. Please don't arrest me FBI, I'm only joking, obviously.

>>14645229 for retard >>14642681

>>14642743
You're thinking of Will Hunting.

>>14642765
Accepted to Harvard at 16, graduated at like 20. Youngest professor ever at UofM and Berkeley. He was a certified genius by all accounts.

Honestly, I don't see any part of him as being actually mentally ill. It's too cheap to say, "Anyone who would intentionally commit terrorism must be mentally ill" is stupid. He did have issues with gender identity and was a confirmed incel, but that's not necessarily mental illness...they're just comorbidities.

>>14642672
>kind of
Severely. He did everything in his power to rationalize his own ethical judgments against society which threatened the things he enjoyed, which were fading out in terms of relevance and adequacy, like all other anarchists. He refused to face the real fact of the matter: society and everything from the industrial age and onward has been a consequence of the natural growth of Western civilization since its inception and the elimination of the lifestyle and pleasures he enjoyed are as much a part of that natural growth as anything else.

>>14645229
>The airplane he was going to bomb was full of "business" people.
>going to bomb
but he fucked it up like the retard that he is.

>>14645252
>3smart5society

Having high IQ doesn't mean you are socially capable to not falling in retarded ideology, especially if you lack the social self-awareness like Teddy Boy. I know plenty of school prodigies from back in my days that turned into drug addicts by their late 20s.

>>14645277
What's your point? Geniuses are often misfits or socially dysfunctional.

>>14645256
>He did everything in his power to rationalize his own ethical judgments against society which threatened the things he enjoyed
what thinker doesn't do this to some extent tho

>>14645289
My point is his ideology can't be justified in any way. This nigga was out there talking about social engineering, while not being able to hold a normal relatable conversation. Well sorry we weren't all on your intellectual level, Teddy. Let me bomb bunch of innocent people and write hundred pages of garbage to justify my autism. What a faggot.

>>14645307
His writing is not garbage. It's insightful and prescient. The violence, yes, totally pointless and evil.

His ideology absolutely can be justified. It's the terrorism that can't be.

>>14645297
Basically none, because "thinkers" tend to be people who are on the verge of becoming obsolete, regardless of the century they live in. It's extraordinarily rare for one of them to accept their own torments as part of the grand scheme of a greater power.

>>14645335
>It's extraordinarily rare for one of them to accept their own torments as part of the grand scheme of a greater power.
Or to not have torments, and to see thinking as something akin to a game. Same poster btw.

>>14645307
Nobody is innocent. Everyone deserves the death they get. Specially you.

>>14645307
>This nigga was out there talking about social engineering, while not being able to hold a normal relatable conversation.

This is the logic of the sorts of people that diss Ted's ideas (which are not even original, mind you. Ted only differentiates himself with Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution). They attack not the ideas presented, but the person. He was abnormal, crazy, autism, blah blah. You can be against living the life of a savage while still agreeing with the main points, as I am.

>>14642842
>he thinks people like uncle ted because he fulfilled the “lazy genius” archetype
you absolute retard, you spend all this time seething and yet you still understand nothing. brainlets are hopeless

>>14645335>>14645335
>because "thinkers" tend to be people who are on the verge of becoming obsolete, regardless of the century they live in. It's extraordinarily rare for one of them to accept their own torments as part of the grand scheme

*squiints at you in Jungian*
Idk man. Ted Kacynski can get fucked though.

>>14645395
If anything, he was anything but lazy. Ted actually lived what he preached and took the consequences of believing so strongly in an idea to their eventual conclusion. He goes beyond what an artist and writer does, who in most cases just sit around and fetishize a social problem in the name of their art. Honestly, it takes some fucking balls and I respect that. Another similar man comes to mind, also popular with edgy losers. Of course, murder for a cause is always wrong and you should not do it. Let these people be curiosities.

>>14645415
A "thinker" in the sense being used itt is an abnormality in history. There's only two situations that can give rise to such a person: desperation (which leads to my first point) or boredom (which leads to my second point here >>14645345).

>>14645378
You have to judge the actions, not the words. Was this Teddy's solution to the tech-revolution? Domestic terrorism? Not to mention most of his ideas were subjective.

>>14645464
>Of course, murder for a cause is always wrong

>>14645621
Nice try, FBI. I'm on to your tricks.

>>14645307
this tbqh. Anyone who unironically worships the cringebomber needs to get off this website

>>14645395
sounds like he hit a little too close to home for you.

Does anyone who makes a post consisting of value judgements need to be banned from lit?

>>14644737
>fat people=dystopia
so this is the level of intellectual who worships a cringey autistic terrorist?

NOT

AN

ARGUMENT

>>14642752
(((Harvard)))

>>14645926
>durr the jews are at fault for my inceldom and general loser-ness

>>14642672
This isn't even a straw man. God, I hope this is bait.

>>14645997
bootlicker

>>14643073
Never being born into a life of wagecuckoldry would've been the best option.

>>14646095
Why? There are plenty of "wagecucks" who enjoy their lives immensely.

Just admit you don't like yourself. The sooner you do, the sooner you might strive to improve yourself.

>>14646050
dios mio... el virgen...

have any of you ted heads ever seen a vagina in real life?

>>14645307
>implying killing people is bad

NOOOOOO not my fellow humareenooooos!

>>14646128
>dude trust me if you see a vagina then you'll suddenly like unchecked technological growth.
>yeah don't ask me why, but yeah dude, like, access to female genitals and technological anxiety are very closely connected, yeah dude whoa lmaooo

>>14646150
Haha I'm gonna take that as a big no from you. how much do you weigh and how tall are you?

>>14645307
>bomb bunch of innocent people

implying people who promote the growth of industry and tech are innocent! what a laugh!

He is just another meme for the "not like the other people" type to worship, these people would have picked Nietzsche instead if he was a famous terrorist.

>>14646109
How do they enjoy bowing their heads to other people in fear of homelessness and hunger?
How do they enjoy tap dancing in front of their bosses / clients, pretending to be "committed to solving the problems" of people who they, at best, don't care about?
I could go on, but I'll just assume that are definitions of "enjoy" must be very different.

>>14646216
I almost cut myself on your edges there, careful anon.

>>14646166
71 kg and 185 cm

>>14646223
But do you enjoy submitting to others for money, tho?

>>14646226
thanks mr skeltal

>>14646173
are people who navigate the societal role they were born into, to accomplish their own goals unrelated to industry or tech, guilty?

This is like some Roko's Basilisk scenario where if you do not actively support a movement that does not yet exist, you can be punished for it in the name of creating that movement

>>14646229
I enjoy your mother submitting to me for money

>>14646239
i dunno, are enemy soldiers who are just doing what their society's expect of them, or raised under their respective systems of education and propaganda "innocent" when they are killed? if you have to shoot a north korean soldier in order to liberate north korea, does that make it "wrong" and "evil"?

violence s a necessary part of nature and violence is a necessary part in a legitimate struggle. violence is the ultimate sanction. everything you are born and raised into is because of systems of violence. your worldview and your society owe themselves to violence. your very life owes itself to violence and violence currently sustains your existence, whether you want to admit it or not.

>>14646216
Not everyone works at shitty places where the supervisors are scumbags or aliens.

>>14646435
The principle is still the same: submitting to other people out of fear.
This is obviously a choice between "bad" and "worse", and that anon >>14646295 couldn't defend it, so he opted for a zinger instead, which is basically admitting defeat.

>>14646229
Do you acknowledge that you have superiors? Most people have superiors because most people are average. You aren't superior just because you refuse to acknowledge your own average skills.

>>14646474
>submitting to other people out of fear.
Fear of what? Fear has nothing to do with it for the average person. The average person is happy to submit because they acknowledge their place in the world. People have to work together to make things happen.

>>14646435
I do, and that's a really shitty thing to live with, anon. The roses smell like garbage when you all you have ahead of yoy are decades of wagecuckoldry, obedience and hard work that will probably never set you free.
You have be a sick fuck to doom a another being to a life like this, regardless of your intent.

>>14646487
The average person is scared shitless of becoming jobless / having resume gaps / having trouble finding work / losing their house / etc.

Walk into a bar and ask an average person if they think their boss / company owner / client is a fag, most will say "hell yeah!" None of them will actually raise the voice at their superiors. Even when leaving / getting fired, because they're afraid of burning bridges.

>>14646498
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