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Guénon was BTFO by Crowley. Crowley simply omitted actute accent from Guénon and rest is history.

Read the rest of his works, I thought the same after reading orient & occident and intro to hindu doctrines. They're introductory books solely written to dispel western prejudices about eastern doctrines, there is no substance in those works. Keep in mind the basis of tradition is initiation, therefore only profane, superficial knowledge is accessible to non-initiated individuals, don't get mad at Guenon for this seemingly easy cop-out, but that's the foundation of esoterism. We have absolutely no idea about rosicrucianisme, l'ordre du temple etc... all of this is kept secret from the non-initiated. Pick up principe du calcul infinitésimal and tell me Guénon has no depth, you can't jump into this book without some maths background though. If you believed the memes and thought reading a bunch of his books would lead to enlightenment you were played. Still, incredibly interesting author and I'm glad I kept reading beyond his introductory books.

>>14638560
nice spacing faggot

>>14638612
Sorry I was disappointed to see that

>>14638585
The only person Crowley ever BTFO'd was himself.

>>14638604

All non trivial philosophy is esoteric though; you can't get to understand Hegel by naively reading Hegel

I have got a math degree, would you actually recommend principe du calcul infinitésimal ? What has he to offer that surpasses Leibnitz, Wittgenstein, Deleuze ?

>>14638604
do you have the ebook of "principe du calcul infinitésimal" by the way ? Thanks !

>>14638623
Absolutely, the book is simultaneously an essay about sacred science, and a comparative study of Leibnitz conception of infinity.

The wikipedia entry for this book is suprisingly good
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Principes_du_calcul_infinit%C3%A9simal

>>14638640
ebook no, but there are pdfs around

>>14638623
>principe du calcul infinitésimal
Does he retroactively refute set theory and intuitionism in it?

Yes. He is a non-entity. Now fuck off.

>>14638675
I got the epub on archive.org, thanks !

But wasn't he retroactively refuted by nominalism ?

>>14638560
>Guenon is just a meme, right ?
I mean if he's being shilled this hard, are there any other conclusions?

>>14638735
>refuted by nominalism

>>14638560
Yeah, just a meme.

>>14638585
>Guenon’s monkeying around

The only ones who take Guénon seriously are Muslims, who don't even understand that Guénon never seriously converted to Islam.

>>14638821
>never seriously converted to Islam
Indeed. He was a revert to Islam, as one cannot "convert" to it like to a manmade faith like Christianity.

>>14638830

If you think that's a serious religious conversion ok lmao

>>14638821
>The only ones who take Guénon seriously are
mathematicians and physicists like Wolfgang Smith, a literal guenonian traditionalist, who taught mathematics at MIT and UCLA.

Reminder to report all spamming/flooding and low quality posts. It's partly on you to make this board less shit.

>>14638830
>>14638821
>In 1949, he obtained Egyptian citizenship. Sedgwick wrote about Guénon's life in Egypt that even though he continued his interest in Hinduism and other religions, Guénon's own practice was purely Islamic. He is "not known ever to have recommended anyone to become a Hindu, whereas he introduced many to Islam".[11]
>René Guénon died on Sunday, January 7, 1951; his final word was "Allah".[21]
Why do hindufags keep insisting he wasn't a muslim? He was clearly invested in Sufism.

a couple of anons keep spamming him to give the illusion that he is popular and relevant.
/lit/ is a slow board with poor moderation so its susceptible to these things. sometimes they take off into full memedom (land) sometimes not

>>14638914
because they can't cope with the fact that he chose Islam, a religion that subjugated India for centuries, over Hinduism. The reasoning for his choice is pretty shallow, he could have easily traveled to India and become an advaitin but only s󠀀oyboy anglos bother with that hippy shit.

>>14638872

It was just a broad generalization, because today, especially online, Guénonfags are mostly Muslims, who idolize him because of his so-called conversion (which he himself denied).

>>14638914

Read the quote from a letter of Guénon to Daniélou that I posted. Yes, he was interested in Sufism, but he didn't convert to Islam (he denies it explicitly), because his vision of religious is incompatible with the notion of religious conversion. He simply adhered to the externals, the exoteric aspect of Islam, due to "circumstances" as he puts it himself.

And I'm not a Hindufag btw, I don't even like Guénon to begin with.

>>14638872
Who?

>>14639301
I think he is talking about Seyyed Hossein Nasr. He is an odd figure. I don't know how to make sense of him.

>>14638604
Hang on, this is really untrue. Have you actually read books by the man? Intimation serves to outline his idea of the super-structural myth of knowledge which he himself admits could be at work within the eastern philosophy he is so adamant about. He admitted this banal defect and so practiced a philosophical thought-method predicated on exclusion rather than initiation. Basically he worked in similar ways to Cartesian reduction, but rather than it bringing with in the field of metaphysics-theology, worked within the realm of epistemo-theology.

>>14639315
>mathematicians and physicists like Wolfgang Smith
>he is talking about Seyyed Hossein Nasr
???

Édouard Schuré is 100x better philosopher

>>14638560
Right. Hardly read by the guys pushing him, I’m sure.

>>14638560
Why the FUCK is Guénon’s face so fucking long?

>>14639504
a shortface wouldn't get it

>>14638585
holy shit Crowley was based