/lit/ - Literature

Women don't exist

>>14625402
Make her need you more than you need her

>>14625407
oh my god somebody who finally fucking gets it

>>14625402
Be very very badass without seeming like youre trying and dont be needy. Example Ryan Gosling in Drive

Imagine falling for the Lacan/Freud meme. Come on anons we are better than this.

>>14625402
I don't think anyone falls in love anymore

>>14625402
unironically you need to have fallen in love and had sex many times to understand lacan

>>14625472
I did just recently and it wasn't fun. :(

>>14625402
Be genuine, stay true to yourself. Don't let her walk all over you, but still know how to laugh things off and not take yourself too seriously.

>>14625472
Love is not real its just a chemical reaction

>>14625480
That chemical reaction is out of desire

>>14625480
We're talking about qualitative experience here, pal. We don't feel "chemical reactions". Love from our subjective experience, which is the only real experience available to us, has nothing to do with chemical reactions. How do I know love is real? Because I'm in love.

>>14625480
Hello fedora

>>14625501
>We're talking about qualitative experience here, pal. We don't feel "chemical reactions". Love from our subjective experience, which is the only real experience available to us, has nothing to do with chemical reactions. How do I know love is real? Because I'm in love.

Your brain shoots off oxytocin there is no love I'm sorry you idealist

>>14625540
>Hello fedora

Hello virgin cant accept reality?

>>14625541
His brain shoots oxytocin because he is in love, not the other way around, dear anon. Before posting again, please keep in mind unlearned plebs are not allowed in this board. Go back.

>>14625554
>His brain shoots oxytocin because he is in love

The love thing is you adding to the physical, there is nothing there but a chemical going off.

>please keep in mind unlearned plebs are not allowed in this board. Go back.

Is the smugness a compensation for something? This is too prevalent here

>>14625480
That makes it even more real.

>>14625586
>That makes it even more real.

No. It's purely physical.

>>14625590
Physical = real

Are you retarded?

>>14625567
Please educate your self on the dogmas of scientism. We have immediate knowledge of our feelings, and therefore the non-physical love, before we know of anything physical, like the hormones. What you are doing is that you are foregoing your direct experience for a FAITH in the "objective" at the expense of your immediate knowledge.

Not to mention that you have no reason to suppose the feelings are caused by the hormone and not the other way around.
>Is the smugness a compensation for something? This is too prevalent here
The smugness is a defense mechanism of keeping away mediocrity. Wherever there is no elitism, mediocrity is prevalent; And you, yourself, are the prime example of this

>>14625597
>Physical = real
>Are you retarded?

How does that equal love? How does oxytocin equate to love? Where in this world does love exist? Does getting cheated on and paying alimony constitute as love?

>>14625407
fraekinf this!!!!!!!!!!!!1!11!!!!!!1!1!1!!111111

depending on the girl, do stuff to remind her of father or act like someone her father would hate.

>>14625604
>Please educate your self on the dogmas of scientism

No

>We have immediate knowledge of our feelings, and therefore the non-physical love, before we know of anything physical, like the hormones. What you are doing is that you are foregoing your direct experience for a FAITH in the "objective" at the expense of your immediate knowledge.

Its all fake, play acting

>The smugness is a defense mechanism of keeping away mediocrity. Wherever there is no elitism, mediocrity is prevalent; And you, yourself, are the prime example of this

Wow, you couldn't be more deluded and smug. Jump off a cliff and show me the elitism

>>14625541
For some reason you're trying to negate subjectivity. Why try to deny something that is empirically true? Chemical reactions in your brain are constant. Does that mean you deny the reality of all experience?

>>14625605
The chemical reaction you mention is just one element in what constitutes "love."

>>14625632
>Why try to deny something that is empirically true?

What is the proof that "love" is real? You cant, the world negates this, reality negates this

>Chemical reactions in your brain are constant. Does that mean you deny the reality of all experience?

Depends this is a difficult question, I deny thought as a barometer of anything so I guess, thought is a veil, I do not deny the material world of course or objects

>>14625635
The body goes through a process then the "mind" interprets it. Love in nonsense talk, there is no love other than for the delusional

>>14625625
>>14625625
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness

please shut the fuck up

>>14625625
You refuse to educate yourself and you don't listen to reason. Yet you get offended when you get called out. Again, what business do you have on this board? Go back.

>>14625665
>>14625661
Those are more ideas. Still you cant prove it. I dont care what someone with a piece of paper says

>>14625665
>Again, what business do you have on this board? Go back.

This isnt your board you deluded little man

>>14625641
So to you all epiphenomena are simply nonexistent. There is just a fundamental substrate -- real reality -- and everything that emerges from it is somehow fake reality. The proof that love is real is my feeling of it. How can you be sure the material world is real? Isn't the material world simply a construction of the brain you distrust? Aren't those things that appear to be physical objects in reality just waves and particles? Seems you're not taking your naive logic to its limits.

>>14625480
lurk moar faggot

>>14625402
not psychoanalytic, but scientific:
>be tall
>be rich
>be buff
>be high status

>>14625696
>So to you all epiphenomena are simply nonexistent. There is just a fundamental substrate -- real reality -- and everything that emerges from it is somehow fake reality

More or less yes. The mind is a myth

>How can you be sure the material world is real? Isn't the material world simply a construction of the brain you distrust?

I meant what you can touch is real, besides that trust nothing

>>14625702
I am all of that but still nothing. You forgot to mention the most important one: be social.

>>14625656
Thats how most things go, yes.

>>14625700
“All I know is that I know nothing.”

>>14625702
The explain all the uggos I've seen on the street with qt gfs.

>>14625702
Seems like being buff hurts your chances. I only see buff guys with semi-attractive girls who wear too much makeup and aren't very bright. The most attractive girls always end up with those tall lean guys or rich guys.

>>14625719
>Thats how most things go, yes.

Then its physical, love is chemical

>>14625739
Either way it's a real chemical reaction and part of that process we call romantic love.

>>14625710
But when you touch things that's just a chemical reaction too. Why differentiate? If that chemical reaction is real why isn't the chemical reaction of love real?

>>14625752
The idea did not exist before the physical reaction

>>14625702
Then explain all the uggos I've seen on the street with qt gfs

>>14625756
Because Stacey broke me heart, therefore, love = not REALZ!!!!!!

>>14625756
>If that chemical reaction is real why isn't the chemical reaction of love real?

Love as we make it out to be as this glorious coming together of two people who have simply reconciled all their differences through oxytocin is absurd. Love implies two, it implies division. How is love real?

>>14625402
Phase 1) Locate a tree
Phase 2) Wielding the axe with both hands, assume proper form and proceed to begin the process of felling the tree
Phase 3) Chop
Phase 4) Chop
Phase 5) CHOP
Phase 6) CHOP
Phase 7) Resharpen axe
Phase 8) CHOP
Phase 9) CHOP
Phase 10) Congratulations, the tree has fallen

*NOTE*
If for any reason the tree should not fall as quickly as you had anticipated, always remember that there is no commonly known tree that cannot be felled with enough blows to the trunk.

>>14625765
what on earth is this creep on about?

>>14625757
Because it is the physical affecting the ideal and not the other way around.

>>14625778
he's trying to intellectualize the fact that he's a loser

>>14625796
No can prove to me that love is real

>>14625796
>"I'll take, 'What is 4chan in a nutshell?' for $800, Alex."

>>14625784
>>14625764

>>14625812
Yes. Love is real because one day, you will die.

>>14625760
>>14625768

>>14625812
>>14625764

>>14625768
What does that mean? Try and try until you get the girl?

>>14625835
>>14625819
Eating chocolate releases oxytocin does that mean love?

>>14625843
https://youtu.be/tbNlMtqrYS0

>>14625480
Real eyes realize real lies.

>>14625847
Yes.

>>14625857
So again love is chemical

>>14625852
This song proves love is real.

>>14625860
and love is not real

>>14625847
Does that make you want to protect and have babies with the chocolate thing you're eating? Does it make you think about it all day to obsessive levels?

>>14625860
And chemicals are real. Ergo, love is real.

>>14625872
Falling in love is real, though.

>>14625402
be stimulating

>>14625863
you know it

>>14625860
You have said this enough times that its clear you haven't taken chemistry or physics. "Chemicals" doesn't prove shit.

>>14625876
Its chemical. There is none of this "emotional love" shit its all physical.

>>14625892
But emotional love is the result of chemicals too, and since chemicals are real we can confidently say emotional love is real too.

>>14625843
Bscly. There is a lot more common sense involved in romance then most men and women care to admit.

All it takes is calculated effort.

>>14625860
You are very correct. Love is a chemical and therefore not real. Do you know what else is not real? Every sense of contact you have with the external world. Your hearing, your sight, and your sense of touch. They are electrochemical signals that the brain matches together and makes up the external world. We, who are waiting our time conversing with a retard, are not real. We are just a combination of electrons and chemicals that your brain represents as what you see.

>>14625892
All emotions are caused by chemicals in the brain. Are you in 2nd grade or what?

>>14625914
Furthermore objects are not real. There is no measurable physical distinction between your body and the air, or a tree or an apple or a bike, other than correlative groups that humans make up, to temporarily refer to sets of probable atomic resonance.

>>14625913
>All it takes is calculated effort.
Do you have a set of steps on what constitutes this calculated effort?

>>14625914
>chemicals are not real
Never go full retard

>>14625923
>>14625914
>>14625907
I am going to go eat chocolate since its releases oxytocin as well. I just fell in love!

>>14625892
>chemicals aren't real
>emotions aren't physical

I think it's about time for you to stop posting, anon.

>>14625938
I'm going to stick a spiked club up your ass, it's anal sex!

>>14625938
go do that, maybe it will help you dilate

>>14625407
This. There is just consciousness. Cliche identities are irrelevant

>Imagine you're eating an apple. This seems like a simple "event", you, the subject, are eating, verbing, the apple, the object. There's two things, you and the apple, and the verb "eating" quickly tells us who's the boss owing to the laws of syntax. But if we try to define these things we quickly run into some difficulties:

>Where's the "cut off" for the apple, as in, where does it end and begin? In our day to day dealings, using geometrical space containing a majority of transparent oxygen is a convenient measure for demarcating objects. So the apple ends at the green skin, and the bite mark. However, this is obviously just a pragmatic and intuitive short hand at the macro (molar) level. Surely we can find a more "objective" edge by zooming in to this edge and drawing up a line. As we zoom in to the edge of the apple, though, a nice clear line doesn't reveal itself, the edge rather, like a fractal, becomes more and more ambiguous. We discover that other things are eating the apple too, that the skin is porous, that chemical reactions are exploding off it, we find that our bodies (hands), are effortlessly transferring energy in the form of heat into the apple, which is causing other imperceptible (at the macro level) chemical shifts (and this heat is being caused by our own digestive systems digesting the apple). Now we are "zoomed in" these tiny transformations in the apple are huge. Around the bite mark there's even saliva, containing our DNA, bubbling and transforming the sugars in the apple and reacting with the acid, with particles flaking off and floating through the air in a cloud being sucked up through our noses, so even "where does the eating begin and end" is beginning to get blurry...

>>14625939
Chemicals are real. Its physical none of you can prove to me love is real as some sort of abstract thing the way you describe love. What's the divorce rate again? Cheating is pretty prevalent. But love....

>>14625454
implying you even read either

>>14625938
Please go do that and never come back. Thank you for being so understanding.

>>14625945
>>14625957
"Love" and eating chocolate are the same thing. You mad?

>>14625964
Wait, are you a nigger? This could explain everything.

>>14625969
Where is love in this world?

>>14625969
>This could explain everything.
This does explain everything. Here I thought I was speaking with a retard, but it's just a negro. Oh well.

>>14625977
>couldnt win or prove love is real so adhom instead

Get better /lit/. Intellectuals are some of the most delusional fools alive.

>>14625977
Exactly. Case closed.

>>14625931
I think you are missing the point, anon. There isn't really any surefire way to go about it. You just have to suck it up, accept the reality that you are going to get rejected a LOT, and try different things until you figure out what works for you.

Women love attention. As long as you can develop keen enough senses to eventually read whether they are into you or find you creepy, then you will have basically achieved peak romantic capability.

>>14625988
You guys got BTFO. Projection to save face I see

>>14625993
Okay but what does that have to do with psychoanalysis?

>>14625964
>>14625976
I told you, love is the fact that you're going to die. And love is the fact that no one will mourn your loss. And love is the fact that no one will even notice. And love is the fact that your nurse will probably find a way to get you to die faster.

>half of marriages end in divorce
>but love guys its real I swear! I read a book that said so!

>>14626011
I am sorry you feel so awful anon. Please take your prozac pills next time

>>14625998
Have a banana, little monkey.

>>14626008
Absolutely nothing. You're way too fucking clueless and green to even start concerning yourself with the psychoanalytic perspective of love and romance.

>>14625402
>In a relationship they formed before the war, Sylvia Bataille (née Maklès), the estranged wife of his friend Georges Bataille, became Lacan's mistress and, in 1953, his second wife. During the war their relationship was complicated by the threat of deportation for Sylvia, who was Jewish, since this required her to live in the unoccupied territories. Lacan intervened personally with the authorities to obtain papers detailing her family origins, which he destroyed. In 1941 they had a child, Judith. She kept the name Bataille because Lacan wished to delay the announcement of his planned separation and divorce until after the war.

>>14626017
half of marriages end in divorce, yet all women are cunts. Isn't that proof that love is real?

>>14626030
That's proof that humans are neurotic creatures and have no clue what they want other than WANTING

>>14626023
I didn't say that bro, it's another retard. I got your advice alright.

>>14626017
All this proves is that love doesn't always last or that couples don't always marry for love.

>>14626023
Wrong guy. Also, the psyche is a myth and illusion

>>14626039
Fair enough, and good luck anon.

>>14626044
So if something is transient its not real

>>14626051
I guess we're not real then lmao

>>14626051
Are you saying that nothing is real?

>>14626059
>>14626057
Love is not something physical I cant touch the "love". Its a chemical thing, which is produced by also eating sweets funny enough. No one in this thread can explain to me how love is real. I see the opposite in this world

>>14626057
>>14626059
Wow. The anon proved to be a Buddhist sage trying to act like a retarded nigger in order to bring us to enlightenment. Thank you wise sage for saving us from our illusion of reality.

>>14626085
You can call me a nigger all you want to cope with your delusions

>>14626076
So you're saying chemistry is not real? Prove it.

>>14626076
You're right, anon-- nothing is real.

So since nothing is real, when can I come to your place and cum in your asshole? Not that I really want to, because nothing is real, but hypothetically ;)

>>14626101
The pain he would feel from the presence of your pee pee in his anus are just chemicals in his brain and therefore not real, so you are very well permitted.

>>14626107
kek

>>14626097
>>14626101
That is a non sequitur. You guys are reaching hard because you cant prove love is real, chemical reactions does not mean that love is real. Love is a concept, everything in life disproves this

>>14626108
>>14626107
Oh its real, its a physical act. Love as this emotional shit is not real. None of you can prove this. Its over just give up and go read more books to confirm your biases. P.S no matter how many books you read you'll still be a retard

>>14626094
Amazing how nignogs see the world. If they can't touch something then it isn't "real." Funny creatures. I think the hot sun in Africa has melted their brains.

>>14626112
I would "love" to cum in your asshole, even if nothing is real and I don't feel love and the cumming is just a series of chemical reactions that cause me to feel love for your tight little poop snatch.

>>14626133
Go do that with your grinder dates instead

>>14626127
Another non sequitur

>>14626143
Is grinder even real if love isn't real? Isn't grinder just a series of electrical signals being emitted from an embedded computer system?

>>14626121
Emotions are caused by chemical reactions in the brain. Emotions are real. Love, as a chemical reaction that can ultimately lead to interpersonal relations among humans, is very real.

>>14626173
Where is love in the world?

>>14626181
Potentially in every human being.

>>14626181
Let's be more fundamental: where is the world? if not in your brain from a series of electrochemical signals from your senses, where is it, my dear negro?

>>14626185
All I see is fear, love is another cope of humans

>>14626199
Fear isn't real either, it's just a chemical in the brain

>>14626199
Tbh every single one of your posts ever since you decided to change your name has been nothing but cope.

Look, anon, we get it-- you're lonely and don't know why. But someday you'll probably experience this love thing that literally ever single other goddamn human on the face of the fucking earth seems to think is real, and then you won't feel so bitter about it anymore.

So buck up and quit fishing for (You)s-- it's verrrrry uncouth behavior, even by 4chan's standards.

>>14626205
Fear is fundamental to the human experience, love is completely opposite.

>>14626199
OK nigger

>>14626206
I have been in "love", multiple gfs. Afterwards it proved my point. Anyways, I'll stop I'm going to go workout. Have a good night

>>14626192
Notice how the nigger avoided answering this.

>>14626228
Fuck it I'll reply while working out . Again this is a non sequitur again. The world is real love is not Everything in the world disproves it

>>14626243
>>14626173

>>14626216
>I have PTSD

nice

>>14626228
>still trying to bait him into a response

You're just as dumb as him you faggot. Shut the fuck up and neck yourself.

>>14626252
The fear of death guides our decisions. Everyone is crippled by this

>>14626253
Easy, niggerman. Go get some AIDS or something.

>>14626259
Projecting hard.

>>14626017

Half of all couples are willing to spend their whole lives together? What could be the reason for that? Could it be... Love?

Nah, time to make some strawmen

>>14626276
Where is love in this world? Only the foolish are blinded by love which is just a euphemism for attachment ie fear.

>>14625402
>How do I help/make a girl fall in love with me
Are you implying you want to have sex, bad idea anon. It will ruin your life and wast your time.

>>14625407
this is true because gender isn't real

>>14626269
It's true sorry man maybe stop reading and do some introspection

>>14626281
>Where is love in this world?
Nigger tier question. Come the fuck on, Jamaquan DeShawn.

>>14626301
Go back to /pol/. We get it, you're scared of the Black man

>>14626295
I don't even know if your the anon asking for advice but ill play the game

>women are sharks they can smell your fear

>the first step to being a REAL MAN is not being afraid of death

>>14626324
Not that anon. I'm unironically not afraid of death but I'm afraid of women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg7qdowoemo

>>14626331
Then you're afraid of death

>>14625402
>How do I help/make a girl fall in love with me, from a psychoanalytic perspective?

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/style/modern-love-to-fall-in-love-with-anyone-do-this.html

actual paper:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0146167297234003

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrxk2WzrE14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u9eyImD3i4

>What is love? As Alain Badiou our good friend who wasn't able to come here put it in his wonderful book in praise of love there is always something traumatic extremely violent in love love is a permanent emergency state you fall in love and it's crucial that in English and in French we use this expression to fall in love you lose control it's really I claim that love the experience of passionate love is the most elementary metaphysical experience it's a platonic experience in the sense of you lead your easy daily life you meet friend you go to parties whatever everything is normal maybe here and there a one-night stand but whatever and then you passionately fall in love everything is ruined the entire balance of your life is lost everything is subordinated to this one person I almost cannot imagine in normal daily life outside war and so on a more violent experience than that of love and I think which is why all the advisors that we need today are trying precisely to domesticate or to erase this excess of love it's as if love is too poisonous and then they tell you you know that the trick that they try to offer you all the marriage agencies dating agencies is how to find yourself in love without falling in love they said you came to me when on one of the transatlantic flies I was in a red one of those stupid airline journals and there was a big text there claiming publicity text claiming we will enable you to be in to find yourself in love without the fall without this dangerous exposure and I think this fits perfectly our daily narcissistic metaphysics you know the old story that I repeat all the time we want coffee without caffeine we want beer without alcohol and we want love without it's danger

>>14625402
this isn't fucking difficult anon

>>14625964
>yessu whitu piggu, rove is chemicarr reactionaru. aaauuu, you maddu?

>>14625625
Faggot. Fuck you

Imagine being such a gigantic pleb that you still have not read Kant in the year 2020. Haha I sure am glad /lit/ is devoid of such morons.

>>14626375
>tfw you know zizek jerks off to wuthering heights

>>14625711
damn what the fuck anon
just go for it buddy

>>14625733
depends on what you consider attractive i guess. buff guys are more rare than lankletes and rich betas

>>14625760
women are narcissists, they want to be the object of desire and want to be pursued. the uggos with qt gfs, they wanted them, they're not narcissists. but the most important thing: it doesn't matter how big or fat or dumb or ugly you are. all that matters is if you dominate the bitch. the woman is a bitch, and she wants to be dominated

>>14625625
why are redditors like this

>>14625472
No one ever did.

>>14625438
lmao

>>14625625
yikes

>>14625402
Read "The Game"

>>14626901
>>14626718
Why are you mad that he was right?

>>14625480
Not even brainless wojak can possibly convey what I feel reading such a post.

>>14625625
I'd shoot you on sight

>>14626566
>kant
These fedoras haven't even processed Aristotle. How can people seriously talk of 'cause' in this light manner while pilling up metabasis upon metabasis?

>>14627284
All bullshit and memes aside, it is time for you to die right about now, right?

>>14627292
>These fedoras
> talk of 'cause'
I won't intervene.

>>14625964
You realize there is a hell of a lot more going on than just a chemical being released right?

>>14625407
Based.

>>14626216
Fear and love are both from chemical reactions, and both are also qualitative experiences humans sometimes have. Either both are real, or neither are. It sounds to me that you have never experienced love, and as such refuse to believe it exists. "I have felt fear all my life" you think "but this thing called love that they speak of? This I have never felt, this mean it cannot be real." You are acting like a child thinking that his mother is gone because she covered her face. The belief that something is unreal because you have never felt it is as absurd as claiming that lions dont exist "cause I have never seen one"

>>14627584
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>>14627291
Love is not real you pseudo fucks. None of you in this thread have successfully refutted the claim. It's pathetic

>>14627584
Fear is the fundamental experience of man, love isnt, because it's no existent in nature, in reality. Grow the fuck up

>>14625501
Based

>>14625402
Become an analyst and wait until one of your qt participants falls in love with you

>>14625407
Immeasurably based and lacanpilled. Now let's consider this: group I consists of 100 men. Group II consist of 50 men and 50 women. Group III consist of 100 women. Which group can reproduce itself and which group(s) will die out from an inability to reproduce? Elaborate on your answer.

Remember anons your books won't help you, you're hopeless, give up. Self inquiry and introspection is much more valuable. Love isn't real. Deal with it. You tame conformists. Love isn't real ;)

>>14627615
Again, just because you have not experienced something does not make it none-existed. Love has just as much an existence in reality as fear, both have a chemical component and are qualitative feelings. You can measure chemical and neurological differences in a person when they feel both, so they both exist the same. Why this infantile refusal to accept things outside of your own direct experience? Either all emotions are real or none are. You are delusional.

>>14627639
If I eat sweets I release the same chemical, does that mean I'm in love? If not why not? Why am I supposed to believe because it's with a woman I should believe it to be real? How delusional!

>>14627650
If Im pumped up this releases adrenaline, does this mean Im afraid? I said both chemical and neurological. Try again.

>>14627663
>I said both chemical and neurological. Try again.

Why did she cheat on you then, divorce you, take your child away, force you to pay alimony. Where was the love?

>>14627684
Because she either never actually loved you and exploited your love, or she used to deel love and later this feeling left her. Like you can stop feeling anger with time, terror when out of danger or joy when you get sadened, you can stop loving someone.

>>14627701
So it proves my point, love is an idea, the qualitative is flimsy and incongruent.

>>14627717
What? I never said love is permanent, just that it exists.

>>14625407
Cringe.

>>14627747
Read Lacan

>>14627622
this guy’s right, op

>>14625480
>shut up borty

>>14626353
This is very interesting... But I wonder to what extent someone willing to partake in such an experiment is already inclined to fall in love.
In the same way I could say that the key to having easy sex is getting girl to pose nude for you (I draw), but if she already acepeted the invitation...

>>14625472
Love was invented by a bunch of Frenchmen in the 1700s. Before that affectionate rape was the norm.

>>14625402
Identify her desire and play the part.

Also, why 90% of this thread is two zoomers trying to one-up each other? Do they think other people care about their childish feud?

>>14625625
You gargantuan mongoloid

>>14625625
retard