/lit/ - Literature

god i hate philosophers so fucking much like we get it bitch you cant write fiction shut up

>>14619175
Holy fucking based.

>>14619167
Yeah, Airline Pilots as Econological Kings.

>>14619175
This, without irony.

>>14619167
what does he mean by the Cathedral?

>>14619204
He actually means the Synagogue.

>>14619167
there is nothing worth salvaging in the cathedral, as the long march of subversion has completely gutted its biggest asset, centuries of trust built off the back of its reputation

building parallel institutions focused on truth instead of lies is the only practical approach. right-minded people will follow, worthless apparatchiks will shriek

>>14619167
Why yes, he's spent over a decade working on Urbit to solve this exact problem. Why do you ask?
>Dude he knows how computers work? What a soulless stembug LMAO

>>14619210
>>14619223

>building parallel institutions focused on truth instead of lies is the only practical approach. right-minded people will follow, worthless apparatchiks will shriek

There is no way to this when all methods of communication are controlled and monitored by massive conglomerates that can unperson you in an instant

>>14619269
that's a short-term obstacle but doesn't change the underlying point. the internet itself will have to balkanize to maintain the order built on communist lies, if this bothers you then you need to adopt parallel and decentralized solutions to currency and communication. NPCs literally will not notice or care, they will stay in their (((sandbox)))

>>14619290
>he internet itself will have to balkanize to maintain the order

No it won't lol. The average person is dumb and only uses the internet for netflix, youtube, email and work. There is no solution once all right wing dissidents are silenced

>>14619167
>Does this nerd give any solutions?
Haven't you read anything by him? He literally has an entire book explaining why his solution would work and a step by step guide on how to implement it.

>>14619495
Yeah I read it and it was all blackpilling nonesense. But hey, enlighten me

I recently read the first article of that new series he is doing, and for a guy that allegedly did grad school for compsci he sure as shit doesn't understand something as basic as a contrapositive proof.

>>14619530
this. he's a retard

Just vape and marry a chink

>>14619569
Not even remotely similar to Moldy

>Yarvin believes that the real seat of political power in the United States is an amalgam of established universities and the mainstream press, an entity he calls "the Cathedral"
holy shit this faggot is cringe, do you seriously need a neologism for the concept of "universities + press"?

>>14619594
it's also supposed to include what the calls the unelected or permanent government, which appears to be mostly State Department

>>14619594
also the NGOs actually I think. I dont remember exactly

We need to colonize South America and make city state. Moldbug is potentially interested in this. Thiel is potentially interested in this

>>14619269
Crypto is a funding mechanism for free speech institutions, and a lot more. We as a society are about to shrug off censorship platforms

>>14619777
Crypto can still be effectively censored for 99% of the population by having fiat-to-crypto onramps banned for utterers of wrongthink.

>>14619175
The best philosophers wouldn't even disagree with you. The Republic and Thus Spoke Zarathustra are both literally fiction even if for some inane reason they get categorized as non-fiction. Both novels of ideas.

>>14619167
NRX is a great critique of the enlightenment and the current world order, but their solutions are retarted and retroactively justified. Look at Moldbugs critique of libertarianism for example. His argument is that the American revolution was predicated on a misunderstanding of british law, ergo ancaps are wrong. Seriously. The argument is that bad.

>>14619944
Holy shit. Also Dostoyevsky

>>14619167
He's interesting for sure but ultimately he's too much of an ideologue to offer anything besides amusing ideas to entertain. He does things like argue the union side were the aggressor in the civil war (which is a non-starter) so as to make his ideas look more sound.

He can be pretty fucken funny though.

So what’s the proper political philosophy to follow? I’m a 100 IQ depth groveler whose bounced from alt right to democratic socialism. Someone tell me what to think

>>14619167
where tf does gaben say this shit?

>>14620399
End The Fed

>>14619928
Merchants will take crypto eventually. Really, as of now it’s less about adoption and more about scalablility. It’s too slow. Apply Moore’s Law to that.
People are coming up with various solutions to make it quicker. It’s all still in the testing phase.

For one though, DLive for example rewards streams in part based on how many views they get, and it’s (at least mostly) free speech. One could be even more free speech.

You can always find a way to sell your tokens even if coinlist doesn’t list it e.g. coin to coin exchanges, which you can then convert to fiat

>>14619569
thanks for the suggestion Mr. Land

Our ultimate hope is that America follows the same path as Rome and dispenses with its republic in favor of empire. A proper monarchy ruled from a single throne offers the option of curing many of the ills that plague our de facto aristocracy.

Basically you all should be hoping that Trump actually does pave the way for a monarchy like everyone is fearmongering that he'll do.

>>14620460
>Dispenses with its republic in favor of empire
>A proper monarchy
>A m e r i c a
I want whatever this guy is smoking

>>14620460
He's giving authoritarianism a bad name if anything, just because people (wrongly) call him authoritarian. Completely agree that we need a Caesar.

>>14620475
Rome managed. Failing this, we need to colonize South America.

>>14619569
>putting down some of the best China critics
Vaping guy is the co-host of ADVChina
You're a fag. More people need to take the red pill on China.

>>14620561
lol, probably more than half of nrx are pro-china

Ontological justification for NRx here boys

>>14620195

>>14620587
I like their governance system, but hate them. If you’re an American NRx and like China, you’re a cuck imo

>>14620587
I'm a Catholic who's interacted with the NRx sphere in the past. It would be pretty silly to criticize China if you're a reactionary. They are, essentially, an aristocracy; the CCP are basically landed gentry. They have governed China pretty well since Mao died, for that matter.

There's no objection to the CCP as such. What one might object to is the particular, specific rule of Xi Jinping. And this is especially the case if you're a Christian, since Xi has tried to clamp down on Christianity in China, including basically strongarming the Catholic Church in China into giving him authority over bishop appointments.

Anyone who crosses the Church needs to burn. But there's no reason the CCP and the Church can't get along, once they've been sufficiently chastened.

>>14619175
true

>>14620613
The Chinese Communist ideology is a form of pagan idolatry of the State

>>14620620
Which is why they need to be properly Christianized. They need to be baptized. Perhaps Xi is China's Diocletian, and a Constantine will follow who broadly tolerates Christianity. But my point is, I think the CCP and the Church can exist in peace.

America needs to be baptized too, by the way. America is a pagan empire, no less than Rome or China.

>>14620613
>including basically strongarming the Catholic Church in China into giving him authority over bishop appointments.
Lol, it's HIS nation, if anything the church is trying to strong arm HIM into allowing them to work outside of him while acting within his domain.
>Anyone who crosses the Church needs to burn.
The fucking arrogance of Christians... you have no right to China or the Chinese.
>But there's no reason the CCP and the Church can't get along,
...
>once they've been sufficiently chastened.
I can't wait for the Chinese Century to be in full throttle, it's going to be fun seeing the Vatican brought to heel.

>>14620638
>>14620613
I don't want to shill it, but can you read my thread and comment on my take on God.

I'm not a Christian, but ultimately if we're pro aristocracy we're more friend than enemy relative to the current state of affairs.
The problems with China btw run very deep. They are just a completely different people. They have zero scruples. They're not us and if you like them, that's a betrayal of your actual people.

>>14620715
>>14620638
>>14620613
The thread:
>>14620195

Tradcaths are either legitimate psychopaths or LARPers. I’m pretty sure they’re just LARPers

>>14620656
>The fucking arrogance of Christians... you have no right to China or the Chinese.

The Church has universal jurisdiction. Our goal is to baptize all the Earth, because we want to give everyone the Gospel, to give everyone the gift of eternal life in Christ's name. What makes China any different than Gaul, or the land of the Goths, or the British Isles? They, too, were once foreign, and far from Rome and Jerusalem. But they were all converted. What makes China any different from the Americas, from Mexico and Guatemala and Brazil? They were far from Rome, but they were converted.

Why should China be any different? What makes China any different than Vietnam or South Korea, both of which have growing Catholic populations?

>>14620974
On one hand, they literally consider themselves the celestial / heavenly empire. On the other, Christianity has lost a lot of credibility as our knowledge base has increased. It's a step backward. We should be moving forward and, while God can be a part of this, it will not be the Christian iteration.

>>14620995
>We should be moving forward
>while God can be a part of this
>"a part of this"
What do you mean?

>>14620974
>le all peoples are equal bro truly what is the difference between China and Gaul we are all Human at the end of the day bro Christians are totally not crytpo-liberal progressives!

>>14621040
A new religion. I’m not going to post my thread a third time. Scroll up a few posts

>>14621067
>new religion
A self-contradictory notion. Retroactively refuted by Shaykh Guénon (pbuh).

>>14620974
How about you try converting core Christian lands like the entirety of Europe before even thinking about China?

>>14619167
>he hasn't synthesized moldbugian politics with guenon-evolan metaphysics yet

>>14621075
This is the second time you’ve referenced Guenon to me. Can you say, in plain English, how the hell a new religion is oxymoronic

>>14619167
Why did this guy find it necessary to come up with this pretentious term to describe centralized power ?

>>14619594
Why not?

>>14619594
Social media companies are now a huge arm of the cathedral. 24/7 sermons

>>14621114
>evolan
>politics
Refuted by the great Upanishadic Saint Rene Guenon (pbuh).
>>14621175
Because assuming its existence leads to an immediate contradiction; it is a retroactive refutation of itself.

>>14619167
he is all about formalizing systems, not about solutions

>>14619204
the distributed consensus making machine, basically academia+media+deep state, which is NOT explicitly organized, which is the issue he has with it, explicit power > implicit power, as explicit power has to answer for it decisions and receives feedback that forces it to self-correct, while implicit power is always decentered and doesn't have to answer for anything because technically it's not even recognized as power

basically Chomsky is part of the "manufacturing consent" machine and he doesn't even know it

>>14619410
the average person has always been irrelevant

>>14619495
patchwork sounds retarded unless it explains how it would achieve geopolitical stability, in a world where there are arguably only 2 real countries (US and china, maybe russia if you stretch it), the rest being just glorified colonies, moving from that to hundreds or thousands of real countries doesn't sound feasible

even Dugin's multipolarity faces the fact that big spaces will be needed, small countries will have no political future, at best just will be cultural entities, but not politically relevant

>>14619636
yes, he had that funny bit where explained why NGOs

>>14621362
>the rest being just glorified colonies
Is Russia considered a Chinese colony?

>>14619594
the point is that power lays on a mandarin bureaucracy, not on universities+press influencing the population in a flawed democracy kind of way, the population is irrelevant just like in other political systems

>>14620460
america is already an empire though

>>14621373
not really, russia is militarily independent, but their economy is too shit to be considered independent in the way china or the US are

they may prove strong enough to maintain their military independence, but remains to be seen, not that china and the US couldn't also collapse, but at this point they are in a much better position than russia

>>14619636
>>14621367
>yes, he had that funny bit where explained why NGOs
why NGOs have to be called explicitly "non-governmental", because they are just geopolitical tools of governments