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>Nevertheless, Paz warns that while modernity has desacrilized the human body, democratic capitalist society has applied the impersonal rules of the market and the mass production technique to the erotic life. Those powers have made the freedom of love into a servitude, and in it there's another totalitaranism.

Back cover of The Double Flame (1993) by Octavio Paz.

>> No.14610371
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>>14610362
>predicts modern sex dynamics 500 years into modernity

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>>14610362
totalitarianism? Come on, that's silly you incel, such an opinion could only be born out of a misguided sense of nostalgia for the days of the white christian patriarchy where men had total control over women's bodies and queer people(I get that Paz was latinx but he had obviously internalised colonial ideas on gender) hey, adults can have consensual sex with whoever they want now, without being shamed by a religious sky daddy, what's wrong about that? it isn't like the advocates of the sexual revolution are marching out in the streets, carrying flags, shouting ideological slogans and demanding the goverment persecute dissenters.

>> No.14610480

>>14610425
He isn't necessarily saying it's bad, retard. He's simply describing the current state of affairs and he's right. Women have totalitarian power in the sexual realm.

>> No.14610484

>>14610362
>PREDICTS MODERN SEX DYNAMICS IN 1993*
So he talked about the effects of the 1960s cultural shifts qua sexuality in 1993, great predicting 'modern dynamics'. As if our current situation is vastly removed from where we were a few decades ago.

>> No.14610515

>>14610484
It actually is. It's way worse now. The sexual revolution was just the beginning. And it will get worse in the future. Suicides and depression stats are going up. The percentage of people not having sex, both male and female, is also going up and projected to get worse.

>> No.14610530

>>14610371
>modernity only means a specific period in time, and it's never used colloquially to mean contemporary times

>> No.14611218

>>14610425
>latinx
Never use this word again. Plural is Latinos.

>> No.14611239

Mum and sister both had their first kid at 18 and I’m 22 and still haven’t kissed a girl. Mum thinks I’m gay

>> No.14611690

>>14610515
True but OP's quote doesn't describe that; it didn't foresee anything that wasn't there in the 90s and earlier

>> No.14611774

>>14610515
>The percentage of people not having sex, both male and female, is also going up and projected to get worse.
Don't see it among women.

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>>14611774
It's also growing. Slower, but it's growing.

>> No.14613387

>>14610362
RETARD

>> No.14613513

>>14613387
cope

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>>14610530
Which is an idea of time specific to modernity.

>> No.14613730

>>14611808
holy shit, more than 1 in 4 of the guys that you see every day haven't had sex in a year? I thought literally everyone except like 2% of people were having sex

>> No.14613732

>>14610362
i don't really think he's predicting anything if he said this in 1993