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I'm curious as to your thoughts on this display.

Everything she states is honest, technically true, potentially useful information. What do you think about the framing, though, of this text?

Pic is the post.

>> No.14581683
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That's based as fuck, now I can more efficiently find more Nazis to read

>> No.14581688
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>>14581669

>> No.14581689

>>14581669
this has to be fake... right?

>> No.14581703

>"It's just facts tho!!"
And I can post facts about racial disparities in crimes rates in America provided by the FBI and the person that wrote this will have a very different response.

>> No.14581709

>>14581703

Hatefacts are different.

>> No.14581713

>>14581669
africans can read? cool

>> No.14581724

>>14581669
hey martin, so get this in 2020 an american black will pre-load your work with a message about how your brief support for the reconstruction of germany in the post war period is inherently evil because those people went on to lose another war after which jewish propaganda was mobilized to demonize the entire german people.

heidegger: aren't all americans black?

>> No.14581754

Staff cramming their shitty opinions on to post it notes in book shops will never not be gay, no matter the book or author. I make a habit of finding dusty old second hand shops that pile their books to the ceiling to avoid this crap, which seems to me to be the bookshop equivalent of one of those mandatory Wal-Mart staff songs.

>We are
>We are
>A book shop!

>> No.14581757

>>14581689
you can check the @

>>14581703
yeah. I'm curious about the bookstore she appears to participate in (whether she owns it or is an employee there?). Anyhow, I've not read the book, limited experience w/heidegger, I've read 2 books by Arendt, and she's right about Arendt's disposition towards african americans (though blacks in general she has a different disposition) but I think that framing Arendt in such a way is not only terribly diminishing of a genius but also failing to understand her disposition within the context of the time and the literature she was responding to. I'd assume she's doing the same thing to Heidegger. I have no idea what utility she'd get from this presentation excepting an attempt to present a specific narrative, but I don't know enough about Heidegger's philosophy to get what narrative she's pursuing. Although, reading about Heidegger's life, he seems like a man of weak character.

>> No.14581792

>YIKES, PHILOSOPHY!
yeah Nazis are bad but there are so many writers who have done shit and participated in shit that's looked down upon today that it's silly to post a disclaimer in front of a book. I don't think people who are seriously into lit or philosophy enough to read hide-egger expect the writers to be saints

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>>14581792
>Nazis are bad

Can you prove?

>> No.14581810

>>14581792
I'll agree with this. It's odd to bring up the Nazism first when it's really very little to do with the book itself.

>> No.14581821

>>14581810
>you can't separate a theory from the theorists identity

Nazis write works of Nazi theory.

>> No.14581846

>potentially useful information

>> No.14581851

Why are American bookstores so fucking cucked? I live in a shitty Eastern Euro country but at least I don't have to endure these cuckolds just yet.

>> No.14581859

>>14581808
I'll be honest, I, myself, cannot

>> No.14581862

>>14581669
>(((Theodor Adorno)))
>(((Hannah Arendt)))

Anyway, something tells me that she hasn't even read 10 pages of Plato in her life.

>> No.14581896

>>14581669
This is a dumb and counterintuitive note. Its purpose is to shame you into not buying Heidegger and into buying a book by Fred Moten, who is surpise! BLACK. Really retarded and pozzed. Why even stock Heidegger if you're going to tell customers they shouldn't buy it???

>> No.14581928

>>14581821
the book predates his involvement with the nsdap and doesn't touch on ns ideas at all. compare side by side with rosenberg's 'mythus'. almost nothing in common.
his later commentary on politics were full of optimism that his ideas might gain purchase within the broader german intelligentsia because the revolutionary energy of the era seemed like favorable winds to him. he said later in life that he supported the nsdap because they were the only movement that had a truly tragic conception of the human subject which may have been able to open new ontological possibilities, but it was not to be.
>>14581669
i don't care if pearl clutching moralfag liberals don't want to read heidegger. the world is probably better that they don't.

>> No.14582002

>>14581713
only the inorganic ones

>> No.14582023

>>14581688
When the rods started to jump, so did my soul

>> No.14582041

Not entirely related but when I was still living with my parents, my mom made me hide the spine of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" cause it had a swastika.

>> No.14582072

>>14581821
Um no. Nazi theory is Nazi theory. Not anything written by a Nazi or wouldbe Nazi or once a Nazi. Not to mention Nazi theory is pretty diverse and changed over time (the racial elements weakened pretty quickly for example).

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>> No.14582114

what do the twitter replies to her post look like

>> No.14582139

dahhhhh it makes me real angry op. durr great post

>> No.14582157

>>14582114
YAS KWEEEEEN
or
I WANT TO PUNCH A NAZI

>> No.14582189

>>14581669
If I want to read Time and Being, I'll find a local bookshop that stocks it, head in, buy it and walk out.
Recommendations come from the counter.

>> No.14582194

>>14581669
Her thesis is her but
>LOOK AT MY OPINION PLEEEEAAAAASE NOT THE BOOK AND YOU'RE A PIECE OF SHIT IF YOU WANTED TO READ THIS GET #WOKED

>> No.14582216

>YIKES, PHILOSOPHY
I guarantee neither she nor the "alternative" she presents will ever say anything of any real insight ever, nor are they capable of it. I don't even mean that as like a "dumb nigger" statement or anything.

>> No.14582219

>>14581851
You don't have to endure this shit because your country isn't overrun by resentful, crybaby niggers. You had better vote against any liberal immigration policy if you want to keep it that way.

>> No.14582221

>>14581669
Commit all moralists to the flames

>> No.14582232

>>14581896
You literally aren't allowed to have a worldview where blacks aren't the central subject of all humanity.

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>>14582041
LOL thats fuckin funny. I just bought that book from a used book store a few weeks ago and the lady at the counter gave me a queer look as she scanned it.

>> No.14582273

>>14581896
In a 100 years people will still be reading Heidegger and Fred Moten will have been long forgotten.

>> No.14582279

>>14581669
The problem with Heidegger is that he wrote blantant nonsense. His political leanings are irrelevant.

>> No.14582281

>>14581683
Hahaha based.

>> No.14582294

>>14581862
she's talking shit about arendt, and adorno and arendt are fucking geniuses in their own right, because arendt had some strong opinions on the impotency of 60s "revolutionary tactics" that are similar to modern criticism that someone like you would probably agree with. She talked about the bending over of academic institutions to avoid schvartze trouble and the lowering of academic standards to accept fools, the pandering screaming tactics of the radlibs, etc. She painted things in realist terms, she lived through the interbellum for chrissake and was a student and lover of Heidegger. The fuck is wrong with you.

>> No.14582296

>Fred Moten

Never heard of the guy so looked him up on (((Wiki))). His article is one of those ones you can tell the subject person wrote on their own, copy and pasted from their own personal website.

>> No.14582311

>>14582072
And it is produced my Nazis, such as Heidegger who was a Nazi producing theory, and as the identity of a person is non-separable from their theory his works are Nazi theory.

>> No.14582334

>>14582311
>and that's a good thing

>> No.14582337

Wasn't Ardent a radical left wing cuck? The modern organization that bears her name seems horrible. I was just reading it, they support the ADL, the Michael Brown "Hands up don't shoot" myth etc..

liberal virtue signaling nonsense.

>> No.14582365

>>14582337
Arendt's political philosophy was a lot more of a political metaphysic than like a political ethic, which is how political space is usually reckoned. This is not to say she didn't think about normativity (you can't not think about that in politics), but it was more in examining apparent dilemmas than in outright saying like, a list of prescriptions.

>> No.14582396

I think this obession with the Holocaust and "The Sufferings of Black America" are serving as a religious stand-in for much of Liberal, White, Upper- Class America. They no longer care for Jesus on the Cross but Michael Brown on the Pavement seems a useful new agony, a new means for them to hang their sins and sorrows. Sunday Mass no longer fulfills the needs they require, it has been replaced with Social Media campaigns and displays of self-pity.

>> No.14582697

>>14582396
Is this from a book or did you write this?

its based

>> No.14582803

>>14581669
It's all superfluous information designed to redirect you to some identity politics theory crap instead of reading based heidegger

>> No.14582926

>>14581669
I work at a bookstore and I ensure to do the exact opposite; hiding anything remotely pozzed and prominently displaying great works and those deemed problematic by progressive types. Mein Kampf enjoys a perennial eye-level face-out in my store. I'm not even a nazi.

>> No.14583025

>>14582337
see
>>14582294

>> No.14583042

>>14582219
>crybaby
is crybaby

>> No.14583050

>>14581669
I would say Levinas and Fanon are more poisonous for the mind than Heidegger

>> No.14583125

I would rather read a book by a man who joined the biggest political party in his country that you had to be part of not to be mistreated by the government and then was declared nothing more than a "fellow traveler" of said party by the occupation authorities of the nations that defeated his country than a book by a man who signed a petition against the age of consent whose causes célèbres were grown men fucking young teens like Foucault.

>> No.14583177

>>14581669
Brave and stunning unironically. Being able to take on an old dead white man like this is amazing. History books need to be rewritten.

>> No.14583194

>>14581724
>heidegger: aren't all americans black?
>Evola: Yes.

>> No.14583296

>>14581896
>blacks
>philosophy
That’s how we got retards who think racism is about colors

>> No.14583336

>>14581757
Shut up, tripfriend.

>> No.14583851

>>14581669

>YIKES
>yep!
>HOORAY!

Stop writing like a child if you expect me to listen to your opinions about philosophy.

>> No.14583876

>>14581669
FWIW being antisemitic doesn't make you a racist. It can even be the other way around, because you reject the fundamental racism of Judaism (identity based on birth, not choice).

>> No.14583901

>>14582255
It's a shit book bought by edgy wanna-be's.

>> No.14583976

>>14581669
All leftists deserve to be killed.

>> No.14583995

>>14581703
And I can point out that those statistics are caused by socio-economic factors

>> No.14584106

When you think about it, basketball Americans internalizing the Nazis = ultimate evil narrative is the ultimate colonization success. The ideological gripes that put Nazism and the US at odds like their views on capitalism, materialism, individualism, the Jews etc don't really pertain to blacks as permanent outcasts of US mainstream society. While white Americans hated blacks and put a lot of energy into antagonizing them, the Nazis barely considered them to be sentient beings and at worst just hapless brutes employed like tools by world Jewry with no agency of their own. So for modern black Americans to have accepted Nazis as the ultimate evil is proof of how easily they have been dominated by mainstream society. And usually it's those woke Black Panther reloaded types.

>> No.14584143

>>14581669

Heidegger gets 65 words.
Fred Moten gets 35 words.

As a Jewish woman of color, I feel offended.

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>>14583995

>> No.14584202

>>14584191
There is a reason you racists only use American statistics and forget that it isn't universal

>> No.14584212

>>14584202
yea south African statistics are much better

>> No.14584266

>>14584202
Please, please, please I don't want to post the global IQ scores again. You would just deny IQ as a useful metric anyway. Take your L and go.

>> No.14584284

>>14581669
>YIKES, PHILOSOPHY
Yep. This one's going in my vernacular.

>> No.14584286

>>14584266
The fuck does IQ have to do with any of this. Stop moving goal posts

>> No.14584290

>>14582396
nice

>> No.14584291

>>14581683
Nioce image.

>> No.14584311

>>14581821

Just like how Einstein's theory of relativity is "Jewish Physics."

>> No.14584313

>>14583995
Which are themselves caused by a thuggish predisposition.

>> No.14584315

>>14581792

>nazis bad

>> No.14584334

>>14582396
wow what a shockingly original observation! we got a genius itt folks!!

>> No.14584821

>>14583995
Not my fault African Americans can't figure out how to bootstrap themselves into society.

>> No.14584833

>>14583995
You seriously don't believe in evolution? How can the races have such different appearances, skin, skeletons, yet their brains are completely the same? How can we have differences in average athletic capabilities but have no differences in the brain, not even a tiny amount?

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>>14583042
found the nigger. fuck off, nigger.

>> No.14584861

How can people even be outraged by this stupid shit anymore? Is it just pretending?

>> No.14584917

>>14583995
It has been over 150 years, Jamal. You need to start accepting responsibility at some point for your actions.

>> No.14585060

>>14581683
based pic im gonna save it