/lit/ - Literature

It was appealing to almost everyone, you're referring to a particular subset of people out of the much greater amount - including schopenhauer and nobel prize winning physicists - who are also into it.

I guess India's culture of absolute Being is more like the Christian mindset than any other civilization. Every Westerner's mind is still shaped by the structure of Christianity even if they claim to not believe.

>>14553027
It has a much more interesting mythology.

>>14553027
>worshipping an unironic Poo-God who shat in a designated street during his liftime

To me it’s the other way around. You become a mystic then you join Hinduism. You see most western mystics were denounced and opposed by the church, but the doctrines that in the west were branded as heretical are openly embraced by Hinduism. You got to practice and believe what you always wanted without having to hide your beliefs for fear of repercussions; on your contrary the beliefs validated by the religion, which psychologically also plays a role.
I know this because I always favored a mystical interpretation of Christianity but listening to priests hammering down: “heretical, heretical” is demoralizing and having to keep that a secret is stressful.
With Vedanta I can finally come out of the closet: yeah, atman = Brahman.

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>>14553027
Guenon and Schuon thought that Advaita was the most direct expression of Gnosis.

it's very similar to convoluted anime lore

>>14553334
based. now i understand why I am so drawn to it.

>>14553334
It even has extremely edgy imagery like dead infants and skulls full of blood and nooses made from intestines.

>>14553681
>they even have a jug of water with them at all times to avoid using disgusting western toilet paper
Based Easterners.

>>14553681
Buddha was Scythian.

>>14553735
So he was German volk?

Because it (the religion of the vedas) is a cousin branch of the same tree that the Old Norse religion (itself the father of Germanic and Anglo-Saxon Paganism) belongs to. People became fascinated when something that, superficially, is so foreign turned out to be closer to the religion of their ancestors than Christianity.

>>14553027

1. Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862), American Philosopher, Unitarian, social critic, transcendentalist and writer:

"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seems puny."

"What extracts from the Vedas I have read fall on me like the light of a higher and purer luminary, which describes a loftier course through purer stratum. It rises on me like the full moon after the stars have come out, wading through some far stratum in the sky."

"In the great teaching of the Vedas, there is no touch of sectarianism. It is of all ages, climes and nationalities and is the royal road for the attainment of the Great Knowledge."

"I would say to the readers of the Scriptures, if they wish for a good book, read the Bhagvat-Geeta .... translated by Charles Wilkins. It deserves to be read with reverence even by Yankees...."Besides the Bhagvat-Geeta, our Shakespeare seems sometimes youthfully green... Ex oriente lux may still be the motto of scholars, for the Western world has not yet derived from the East all the light it is destined to derive thence."

Thoreau, the Concord sage, said, "The Vedanta teaches how by 'forsaking religious rites' the votary may obtain purification of mind." And "One sentence of the Gita, is worth the State of Massachusetts many times over".7
Along with Emerson , he published essays on Hindu scriptures in a journal called The Dial.

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2. Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860), German writer and certainly one of the greatest philosophers of the 19th century. He was the first Western philosopher to have access to translations of philosophical material from India, both Vedic and Buddhist, by which he was profoundly affected.

"From every sentence (of the Upanishads) deep, original and sublime thoughts arise, and the whole is pervaded by a high and holy and earnest spirit....

"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and so elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the solace of my life -- it will be the solace of my death. 8.

To Schopenhauer, the Upanishads were documents of 'almost superhuman conception,' whose authors could hardly be thought of as 'mere mortals.'

He spoke of India as the 'fatherland of mankind' which 'gave the original religion of our race,' and he expressed the hope that European peoples, 'who stemmed from Asia,...would re-attain the religion of their home.'
He believed that the Upanishads, together with the philosophies of Plato and Kant, constituted the foundation on which to erect a proper philosophy of representation. It was the Upanishads' analysis of the self which caused Schopenhauer to stamp them as " the product of the highest human wisdom". He dedicated himself to this task, producing his magnum opus, The World as Will and Representation, in 1819. This is what he says in this book:

"We, on the contrary, now send to the Brahmans English clergymen and evangelical linen-weavers, in order out of sympathy to put them right, and to point out to them that they are created out of nothing, and that they ought to be grateful and pleased about it. But it is just the same as if we fired a bullet at a cliff. " In India, our religions will never at any time take root; the ancient wisdom of the human race will not be supplanted by the events in Galilee. On the contrary, Indian wisdom flows back to Europe, and will produce a fundamental change in our knowledge and thought." 9.

Schopenhauer regarded the Hindus as deeper thinkers than Europeans because their interpretation of the world was internal and intuitive, not external and intellectual. For intuition unites everything, the intellect divides everything. The Hindus saw that the "I" is a delusion, that the individual is merely phenomenal, and that the only reality is the Infinite One "That art Thou"

10 Lord Warren Hastings (1754-1826), was the first governor general of British India. Hastings was very much impressed with Hindu philosophy:

"The writers of the Indian philosophies will survive, when the British dominion in India shall long have ceased to exist, and when the sources which it yielded of wealth and power are lost to remembrances." 11

>>14554206
4. Ralph Waldo Emerson, (1803-1882) author, essayist, lecturer, philosopher, Unitarian minister said this about the Gita:

" I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita. It was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us."12

Repelled by the increasing materialism of the West, Emerson turned to India for solace:
" The Indian teaching, through its clouds of legends, has yet a simple and grand religion, like a queenly countenance seen through a rich veil. It teaches to speak truth, love others, and to despose trifles." 13

His famous poem " Brahma" is an example of his Vedantic ecstasy. 14

5. Wilhelm von Humboldt (1767- 1835), Prussian minister of education, a brilliant linguist and the founder of the science of general linguistics. Humboldt began to learn Sanskrit in 1821 and was greatly moved by Schlegel's edition of the Bhagavad Gita, on which he published an extensive study and which he pronounced as:

"The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical song existing in any known tongue ....perhaps the deepest and loftiest thing the world has to show." 15

He thanked God for having permitted him to live long enough to become acquainted with the Gita. 16

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>>14554206
>>14554209
Ooooof

>>14553735
>>14553757
Buddha was a Khas Aryan. There are Still some pure blooded Khas Aryans in Nepal since they dont mix race and are Hindus. Gautama surname is still used to this date.

>>14554858
Holy shit how CUUUUUUTE
These lolis are hindus? How based

>>14555000
>sociology wants to mix this in favor of "world peace"

>>14555022
>Jews wants to mix this in favor of Jewish supremacy
FTFY

>>14555320
Same thing.

>>14553027
it has what abrahamic religions lack and it's less dogmatic

>>14553027
because whitey have no culture

>>14555417
>>14556469
this, India is an actual civilization while whites are a few stolen fragments of other people's civilizations

>>14553228
Why do I relate more to the Chinese celestial bureaucracy, then?

>>14556494
You're bad at philosophy and only desire a tradition as a meme.

>>14556504
Who said I desire tradition? I'm not a mystic, nor am I a perennial traditionalist memelord.

It is only that I find many parallels between my own personal musings and that of the Chinese. I have not adopted their philosophy, only felt an affinity arise out of amusement from the synchronous similarities.

>>14556633
Nothing memelord about perennialism. You sound like a memelord yourself. Thanks for playing.

>>14556643
This. Perennialism is well-respected on /lit/ so it's quite comical that someone would call it a meme.

>>14556643
Tradition is merely a euphemism for long-lasting semiosis. There is naught to tradition except for memes.

>>14556669
Lol, your persistence in calling perennial tradition a meme is pretty pathetic to be honest senpai. Maybe Reddit is more your speed? /lit/ is largely a perennialist board.

>>14556694
Perhaps the keener question you should ask, directed at yourself, is a meditation on why "meme" carries negative connotation?

The memelord, keeper of signs, transcriber of meaning, has come to find his own calling a repulsive burden.

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>>14556665
What exactly are you denying when you deny that Perennialism is "a meme"?

>>14556752
I guess we'll never know.

>>14556694
>/lit/ is largely a perennialist board.

[Citation needed]

>>14557267
have you seen the number of guenon threads in the past 2 months????

>>14557275
>h-have you seen how many spam threads I created bro??
not convinced

>>14555000
>tfw you realize this is someone's wife

It and Buddhism have very mapped out cosmology and parallels to neuroscience. Getting visions of Hindu gods is also pretty universal to humanity.

>>14555000

>>14558586
Exactly this, it is blatantly obvious that it is one autistic NEET whose entire existence revolves around spamming Guenon on /lit/.

>>14553027
I dont even understand why anyone would be interested in religion, theologyor spiritualism.

>>14553027
Because it’s foreign. When you grow up dismissing your own culture as silly and backwards, it requires humility to look back and admit that your edgy teenage cynicism may have been wrong. It’s far easier to look at the beliefs of another culture from a distance, it allows you to ease into spiritual thought without confronting the fact that you dismissed such spiritualism as silly before.

>>14559535
>Getting visions of Hindu gods is pretty universal to humanity
Could you elaborate on this?

>>14559681
During extreme bouts of diarrhea many people report visions of a vengeful blue figure stabbing their asshole with dozens of knives at once.

>>14553757
According to the traditional description of Buddha within Buddhism, he had "golden skin", soft and straight blue-black hair, and blue eyes. Also his penis is likened to that of a horse's in terms of size because "it retracts well". Buddha canonically had a horse shlong.

>>14559894
wait he was that based??

>>14559900
Buddha was said to be very beautiful. Since the description speaks of colored hair not just on his head, he must be taken to have been hairy to an extent that was visible. There's also the mention of a single long hair that was noticeable between his brows, but they were otherwise separated, so he probably had minor hair between them, or at least that one special long follicle. But yeah, Buddha wasn't popular and charismatic for nothing. You can easily google this information in various translations.

>>14557275
yeah very organic bro

>>14553027
because its primordial aryan metaphysics

>>14555000

She looks at least 10% Asiatic

>>14553027
>What makes it so appealing to autistics?
It was appealing for edgy oikophobes. But not anymore. It's passe nowadays.

There are hundreds of strands of Hinduism, making it easy for someone to find one they like. Most are very vague and appeal to self-empowerment. Hinduism is all about finding meaning within because it is non-existent without. It is at its core an ostensible cure for the blackpill

God is a moral idealist.
Karma Yoga and Jnana yoga will take you to the light though.
Karma Yoga : serving your fellow man.
Jnana Yoga : fixed focus on the love of God 24/7.

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>>14559900
>Why yes, I am Buddha. How could you tell?

Savitri Devi
based
Miguel Serrano
based
Evola
based

Guenon
has not much to do with the other 3, beyond what's explained in Evola's book about him

PS: FUCK B*ddhists and FUCK you

>>14559646
No, Hinduism and Buddhism is just much better than christian slave morality.

>>14559900
I'm afraid Buddha was not based.

>"From whatever new points of view the Buddha's system is tested with reference to its probability, it gives way on all sides, like the walls of a well, dug in sandy soil. It has, in fact, no foundation whatever to rest upon and hence the attempts to use it as a guide in the practical concerns of life are mere folly. Moreover Buddha, by propounding the three mutually contradicting systems, teaching respectively the reality of the external world, the reality of ideas only and general nothingness, has himself made it clear that he was a man given to make incoherent assertions or else that hatred of all beings induced him to propound absurd doctrines by accepting which they would become thoroughly confused…Buddha’s doctrine has to be entirely disregarded by all those who have a regard for their own happiness."

Adi Shankara - Brahma Sutra Bhasya 2.2.32.

>>14561753
shoo shoo cryptobuddhist

>>14561765
Nagarjuna was refuted by Richard Robinson (pic related) as a result of Nagarjuna's failure to fully work out the ideas that he got from the Upanishads. He is a mere footnote to history and can be forgotten along with a whole host of other failed thinkers. Only the great and infallible Shankaracharya (pbuh) fully worked out the doctrines of the Upanishads, and unlike Nagarjuna he's never been refuted.

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>>14559958
seething

>>14553027
I don’t know if anyone here is spiritual or into psychs but I’ve done DMT on 3 separate occasions. People always talk about how you meet entities on DMT, and I have only met an entity on one of these occasions.

I’ve read a lot of “trip reports” beforehand and people always talk about meeting machine elves or gnomes. Entities that act in jest and mess around with you. Going into it I always expected to see that. The only entity I have ever experienced looked like a Hindu-type god. A blue women sitting cross legged with 6-8 arms twirling in a circle, blowing kisses at me. It looked like pic.

I was raised catholic and never studied the Hindu religion. It was odd to me that while on heavy dosage of psychedelics the first entity I meet is a Hindu-god. I assume their religion is heavily based off of psychedelic usage. Maybe something in our psyche that creates these artifacts? It would make a lot of sense to me that kids who are into spirituality and psychedelic use would follow Hindu religion.

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