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>proves Gods existence

>> No.14552849
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>proves God's existence

https://youtu.be/JiMqzN_YSXU

>> No.14552858
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>proves Gods existence

>> No.14552928
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>is a God himself

>> No.14552958

>>14552849
ok so
>if our planet were placed differently we wouldn't be alive
it's a good thing we can say the same for all the other planets, ingeniously placed and meticulously crafted for..... what exactly? Life on Earth adjusted to the Earth's conditions, Earth is a fluke but by no means a geometrically perfect crystal of life sustenance.
Not sure what to say about the supernovae thing, wouldn't trust this guy to not intentionally leave out a perfectly reasonable explanation.
>bees and flowers evolved at the same time
why not? it didn't happen overnight.
ok that population argument killed me I can't go any further

>> No.14552970

>>14552796
who?

>> No.14552971

>>14552958
ok I watched a little further and the cell argument was even worse, how can anything he said be taken seriously when he spews such utter nonsense?

>> No.14552973

>>14552970
jay dyer

>> No.14552978

>>14552958
What a embarrassing response.

>> No.14552979

>>14552971
Repent. The Dimond Bros are the finest minds of our time

>> No.14552982

>>14552796
>you’re stupid
>you’re so fucking dumb
>you’re a fucking retard bro

>> No.14552986

>>14552796
Post a link or fuck off.

>> No.14552997

>>14552986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q-O5doJ1_8&t=

Here's a quick one, he also has several debates.

>> No.14553029

>>14552997
thanks :)
this guy is hilarious...

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>>14552796
>shits pants and dies

>> No.14553153

>>14552796
if there wasn't a GOD then who made Malena Morgan?

>> No.14553158

>>14552796
>hurr durr there are paradigms
>therefore god exists

>> No.14553508

>>14552796
>dyer
Based philosophy spaz

>> No.14553511

>>14553508
catholic detected

>> No.14553531
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>>14552982
Yep.
Can't listen to his debates or most of his vids because he just rambles on and pats himself on the back. Too repetitive, especially when he thinks he's being funny. On and on... so much bullshit.
I'd rather read his old essays.

>> No.14553540

>>14552997
lmao bretty good
i like dyer

>> No.14553562

The Church disgraced its own image and authority by stooping to philosophical proofs of its correctness. In doing so it credited Enlightenment reason as the way to truth, and threw away the divine masks of Scriptural authority and Revelation, showing itself to be merely yet another power structure desperate to use whatever means it could to sustain itself.

>> No.14553575

>>14553562
>For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

>> No.14553615

>>14552796
I have little trouble with him but bloody Hell, is he just concerned with finding new things to believe so he can debate about them? Guy seems more like a machine spitting out words than a Christian at times, there are much better Western converts who have more of a claim to "proving God".

>> No.14553623

>>14553615
How do you mean? He's covered the same topics pretty consistently for the few years his channel has been up

>> No.14553628

>>14552796
Based dyer poster

>> No.14553627

>>14553562
This. Jay converted to Orthodoxy but his scholasticism stronger than ever if anything,.

>> No.14553635
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>actually proves that God exists
>>14552796
So you’ll watch pseudo intellectuals make pop-philosophy videos rather than actually read? I fucking hate faggots like you, this is only a board for discussing philosophy if you have books to discuss you absolute troglodyte. Do any of you cunts fucking read?

>> No.14553647

He's an "I'm an atheist, debate me" who graduated to Christianity.

>> No.14553652

>>14553575
Scripture is dead.

>>14553635
The man most reviled by the Church for his denial of the Truth of Scripture (among other things), now paraded for his "proof" of God through "reason".
Scripture is dead, and the Church killed it.

>> No.14553664
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>Apologetics is the process of PROVING God’s existence through reason.
>Jay Dyer PROVES GOD’S EXISTENCE

Wew, lad ...

>> No.14553667

>>14552796
dude is a russian shill, it’s glaringly obvious

>> No.14553716

https://youtu.be/RkbvNgybN8Q

>> No.14553726

>>14553667
>>14553716
>implying that is bad and interferes with the porf of God

>> No.14553732

>>14553726
>fell for the meme
>muh THIRD ROME
>durr murr Eurasia

ill pray for your soul you get out of this cult, anon.

>> No.14553893

>gobbledygook in gobbledygook out
ie. at postmodern level of nonsense
probably lurks around here.

>> No.14553911

"But if everything has a cause then what caused God?"

-Jay Dyer clearly understanding Aristotle.

>> No.14554154

>>14553635
only good post itt

>> No.14554672

>>14552982
>*smacks lips*
>proof of Gods existence (half)

>> No.14554687

>>14553911
the worst part is that he claims to have been a thomist for some years

>> No.14554700

I don't think you need to worry about proving God exists. I don't believe in God because of some proof I read somewhere and I doubt anyone else does either. Apologetics is primarily for the benefit of the believer, to understand that your own faith is reasonable and to allay doubt.

>> No.14554701

>>14554687
You're a coward and a clown, I'll debate you right here right now - dyer

>> No.14554703

>>14554701
ok

>> No.14554707

>>14553911
Obviously out of context or he never said that

>> No.14554732

>>14554707
>If everything has a cause then I can't in the syllogism leap to saying God is a special exceptions
This is an exact quote from his "Disproving the 5 Ways of Thomas Aquinas" video. It's Dawkins tier.

>> No.14554739

>>14553575
That isn't telling you to go construct logical proofs of God's existence. If anything it's telling you that you don't need to since God's existence is obvious and people are rejecting him due to sinfulness, not some legitimate intellectual position.

>> No.14554813

>>14553531
>>14552982
such a mischaracterization lol