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14532043 No.14532043 [Reply] [Original]

what field of study is the final boss of the intellectual life?

>> No.14532053

Langlands program

>> No.14533017

Advaita Vedanta

>> No.14533053

Tiantai Buddhism

>> No.14533056

Metaphysics

>> No.14533063

>>14532043
Computer Science

>> No.14533120
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14533120

Urban studies

>> No.14533125

process philosophy

>> No.14533127

>>14532043
Theology
All philosophy aspires to be theology

>> No.14533130

>>14533127
this

>> No.14533656

Finnegans Wake

>> No.14533660

>>14533120
urban studies taught properly would probably be incredible but its basically been entirely taken over

>> No.14533825

hentai studies

>> No.14533832

>>14533127
Religious studies (it has all the theologies)

>> No.14533860

>>14533127
>>14533130
christcuck chringe

>> No.14533888

>>14533860
>chringe
Cringe.

>> No.14533891

>>14533660

What do you mean by taught properly?

>> No.14533897
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14533897

Pure mathematics

>> No.14533913

system dynamics

>> No.14533916
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14533916

>>14533897

>> No.14533942

>>14533916
based

>> No.14533966

>>14533916
Artificial Intelligence equal to humans isn't even know to be possible, it is a matter for metaphysics to solve but humans will try nevertheless like the tower of Babel.

>> No.14533976

Holocaust Denial Science

(Analyzing the different molecular and quantum properties of particles in and around supposed ‘gas chambers’)

>> No.14534096

>>14532043
The only acceptable answer is the language of the universe. Mathematics.

>> No.14534104

>>14533891
Probably means using big data to creative predictive analytics about people in cities, how policy affects locations, etc. Right now it's literally "black people can't afford rent and prisons are overcrowded and all black. How do we fix this?"

>> No.14534112

>>14534104
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell%27s_law

>> No.14534120

>>14533916

Ted doesn't understand what mathematics involves.

>> No.14534126

>>14532043
Greek and Indian philosophy

>> No.14534135

>>14533127
The opposite is true. Theologians are failed philosophers

>> No.14534153

>>14534135
lol
okay big guy

>> No.14534154

>>14532043
same as first boss, the self

>> No.14534188
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14534188

>> No.14534206

>>14534188
Cringe

>> No.14534212

>>14534120
You, are aware of who he is, right?

>> No.14534311

>>14533063
Based

>> No.14534317

>>14533966
AI can definitely surpass humans in applied mathematics. All you need is a neural network with strong enough pattern recognition to apply the right algorithm to a problem.
Pure mathematics on the other hand requires you to think of entirely new constructs that don't exist in the current syntax. Godel's incompleteness theorem proves that there will never be an end to this process - every system of symbolic logic will contain true statements that cannot be proven without expanding the system.
>>14534120
Ted does understand, being a mathematician himself. Assuming that he really did write this letter, he is discussing the social and economic value of contributing to mathematics, rather than the pure intellectual value of pursuing it. He does, after all, concede that you could do math for entertainment.

>> No.14534320

>>14534188
EPIC WIN!

>> No.14534330

>>14534120
nigga lmao

>> No.14534332

>>14534188
this. so much this.
edit: OMG! i didnt know this would blow up like this!
edit2: WTF???? THANK YOU FOR THE GOLD KIND STRANGER!!!

>> No.14534451

>>14534317
>All you need is a neural network with strong enough pattern recognition to apply the right algorithm to a problem.
Interesting, do you have a paper to share on that?

>> No.14534455

>>14534188
Okay this is based

>> No.14534459

>>14532043
Horticulture

>> No.14534512

>>14534188
>Science is like being in a dark room and concluding that is all there is and studying the darkness

>> No.14534518

>the final boss of the intellectual life?
>thinking of intellect in such a crude and juvenile way

Oh, the irony.

>> No.14534523

>>14534459
Remember, you can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think.

>> No.14534525

>>14532043
Parenting

>> No.14534595

Ask your r*ddit friends

>> No.14534615

>>14534523
kek

>> No.14534623

>>14534188
I FUCKING LOVE PHILOSOPHY!

>> No.14534625

>>14534523
Very nice

>> No.14534628

>>14532043
Aerospace Engineering

>> No.14534635

>>14532043
Not being worthless.

>> No.14534642

>>14533063
Based and redpilled if purely theoretical
Bluepilled and bugman if applied.

>> No.14534643

>>14533916
based ted

>> No.14534665

>>14534332
How do you edit 4chan posts?

>> No.14534752

>>14532043
Dark Buddhism

>> No.14534761
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>>14533891
Just write a book called The Philosophy of The Wire
as ridiculous as the premise of these sorts of books usually is, I think if properly done, this particular one would be an excellent work of academic authorship

>> No.14534769

>>14534523
rofl

>> No.14534770

>>14534642
>tfw theoretical computer science is still only applied math

>> No.14534774

>>14534752
kek

>> No.14534775
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>>14534459
>metaphysics of horticulture

>> No.14534778

>>14532043
Obviously pure mathematics.

>> No.14534807

>>14534665
Only people with 4chan premium can

>> No.14534814

>>14532043
There are different games one can play. Not everyone is equal to every task and will not be equally happy facing the same "final" challenge.

>> No.14534981

>>14533860
>study of God is inherently religious
ok

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14535923

>>14534188

>> No.14536234

>>14532043
Video game Analogy

>> No.14536363

>>14532043
Math

>> No.14536375

>>14534188
Wtf I love science now

>> No.14536895

>>14533056
Sorry to hear about your brain rot

>> No.14536984

>>14535923
Brainlet tier image, there were many physicists who denigrated philosophy, Boltzmann being probably the most famous so it's not like not caring about philosophy is a domain of midwit scientists like the ones on the right. Also, Heisenberg's and Schrodinger's statements are exaggerated, they were both geniuses and their literacy in works of retarded dead Greeks who have been proven wrong myriads of times probably contributed little if anything to their intellectual development, Heisenberg would have discovered the uncertainty principle without ever knowing of Plato's cave or theory of ideas. In short this was probably made by an unemployable Phil major who got bullied by a bunch of physicists and engineers and shat this turd to feel pretty again

>> No.14538233

>>14534188
F*ck yeah!

>> No.14538280

>>14533127
Hahahahaha

>> No.14538319

>>14532043
Well i think German Idealism, Pure Math and Aerospace engineering are all candidates.

>> No.14538506

>>14534317
>odel's incompleteness theorem proves that there will never be an end to this process - every system of symbolic logic will contain true statements that cannot be proven without expanding the system.

That doesn't invalidate the premise of having an AI so powerfull that its heuristics would be stronger that the combination of all the mathematicians alive.

>> No.14538666

>>14532043
neurophysics

>> No.14538685

>>14532043
Buddhist Dharma
Buddhist Metaphysics

>> No.14538761

>>14534120
solid bait desu

>> No.14538769

>>14532043
CSIII

>> No.14539120

>>14533916
Case in point: Ted's study of mathematics led to multiple life sentences in a supermax prison. Leading by example is not always an admirable trait.

>> No.14539222

>>14535923
I didn't understand before why people here disliked Degrasse Tyson; now I do. More than blaming them I think it's a symptom of our current education system, but what do I know.

>> No.14539321

>>14533063
kek'd

>> No.14540353

>>14532043
Defining the ever-changing yourself and God perfectly.

>> No.14540673

>>14533888
>Cringe.
chringe

>> No.14540717

>>14536984
Thing is that retarted dead Greeks found out about these things thousands of years ago without science

>> No.14540835

permaculture

>> No.14540889

>>14534188
this post was the last thing i needed to set me off the edge, farewell /lit/ i fucking hate the lot of you and would like nothing more than to see you all in hell with me, i'm going to cash out my smith and wesson retirement plan

>> No.14540982

>>14532053
This guy fucks

>> No.14541152

>>14534512
i'm in stem and this is correct

>> No.14541830

The end game of intellectualism is to renounce intellectualism and just do normal stuff. The last thing to know is that nothing is worth knowing.

>> No.14541915

>>14532043
Sun and steel.
>>14536984
Unbelievably massive cope.
A phil major wouldnt have made this image, theyre as retarded as you.

>> No.14542391

>>14533120
How does it work? Are most of these people perpetually sub-employed, just thinking "sigh... what could have been..." when walking around town?

>> No.14542562

>>14533916
Legitly I see philosophers being replaced by machines before janitors and maids

>> No.14542596

>>14539222
He has much worse than that
https://youtu.be/f5X64QCDVnI
Here's him going on a rant about physicians, with absolute brainlet made-up arguments such as blaming doctors for diagnosing people with terminal cancer, then the cancer is cured, people believe it's a miracle and so it causes *religion*.
And saying doctors are dumb because most pre-med students are dumb. Nevermind that these classes have huge failure rates.

>> No.14543070

>>14534188
Science in the house!!

>> No.14543100

>>14534188
Science is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat using a fucking flashlight, and then concluding that nothing outside this dark room exists.

>> No.14543462

>>14534188
Science doesn't have a flashlight

>> No.14543836

>>14534120
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.14543969

>>14532043
information science

>> No.14543980

>>14534120
9/10 bait

>>14534188
pure rage fuel which is okay as bait but ridiculous that someone created this unironically

>> No.14544319

>>14532043
Nigganomics, the study of niggatry

>> No.14545097

Ethics, without question.

>> No.14546285

Getting to 25,000 Twitter followers WITHOUT posting memes. Most of you are far too stupid to break into 4 digits

>> No.14546348

String Theory or Loop Quantum Gravity

>> No.14546837

>>14532043
Interuniversal techmuller theory

>> No.14546860

>>14534188
I will tear the guy who made this a new asshole.

>> No.14546873
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14546873

Philosophers are mostly intellectual masturbation of ego that never walked the inner path which would make their conceptual drivel obsolete , what the point of thinking endlessly of honey when true understanding comes from tasting honey.

>> No.14546958

>>14534512
someone edit this in instead I'm too busy studying metaphysics right now

>> No.14547894

>>14533916
Mathematics was already automated by the time the calculator was created.

>> No.14547983

>>14535923
>They are forms, ideas which can be expressed unambiguously only in mathematical language.
Retarded physicist. Hey, retard scientist, guess what? YOU CAN'T EXPRESS REALITY WITH LANGUAGE! IF YOU COULD THEN IT WOULD NO LONGER BE LANGUAGE, IT WOULD BE REALITY! A MODEL OF THE WORLD ISN'T EQUIVALENT TO THE WORLD, YOU FUCKING VENTRILOQUIST! Oh, "but mathematics has this power", lol. I'll take your word for it, friend, as long as you spend your entire life juggling around empty abstractions in a dark room. Your life is a comedy.
>a real seeker after truth
Even Einstein does it. Hey, science retard: truth doesn't exist. It imlies an equality between reality and language: it is what us philosophers call an "impossible exchange". Get it, idiot?
>The plurality we recieve is only an appearance; it is not real
"[The senses] do not lie at all. What we make of their testimony is what first introduces the lie, for example, the lie of unity, the lie of thinghood, of substance, of duration . . . “Reason” is what causes us to falsify the testimony of the senses. Insofar as the senses display becoming, passing away, andchange, they do not lie."
"The “apparent” world is the only world: the “true world” is just added to it by a lie"
-Nietzsche
>"Physics concerns what we can say about nature"
The smartest one here, to be sure, but even this is a bit of an error, thought it would take me quite a long time to explain why.

>> No.14548042

>>14532043

Neuroscience and Psychology.

/thread.

>> No.14548093

>>14533916
Absolutely 0 foresight into what automation would be and even what computers actually are good at. So much for based Ted.

>> No.14548379

>>14546285
Who cares about twitter lmao

>> No.14549156

>>14547894
Still a better chance of getting hired than some meme degree like econ desu especially if you double dip it with something