/lit/ - Literature

The book is pretentious and the author is a sissy.

>>14483556
Sounds great, must give it a read.

>>14483569
You can listen to it for free online which is easier to understand for some bits. You can even get remixes of it if you want
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2dK3Tzf8KwA

why does the wikipedia page use that flattering photo of Joyce as the main image and not any other image from the rest of the article where he looks ridiculous.

>>14483611
god damn it anon

>>14483621
Why should it?

>>14483636
Because the main picture is a side profile that doesn't give a clear view of Joyce and isn't representative of how he typically looks. Most actors don't get model headshots on their wiki page, just them photographed at some random convention.

>>14483621
That portrait/photo of him probably best embodies the spirit of Joyce in 1918 when he was working on Ulysses as one who embodied in himself a coming revolution in prose hitherto unattained by any novel in history, of which if he had not liberated himself from, as Stephen Dedalus remarks in the Nestor episode, he would set as the benchmark for all contemporary literature for the next 3 decades at least.

Here's a nice photo of him which represents well of the last years of creativity in Joyce's life on the other hand

>>14483514
So... favorite episode? For me its Cyclops, but I for one would love to see anyone try and attempt to stage Circe in its entirety

>>14483514
My sweet little whorish Nora I did as you told me, you dirty little girl, and pulled myself off twice when I read your letter. I am delighted to see that you do like being fucked arseways. Yes, now I can remember that night when I fucked you for so long backwards. It was the dirtiest fucking I ever gave you, darling. My prick was stuck in you for hours, fucking in and out under your upturned rump. I felt your fat sweaty buttocks under my belly and saw your flushed face and mad eyes. At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue came bursting out through your lips and if a gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora’s fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.

You say when I go back you will suck me off and you want me to lick your cunt, you little depraved blackguard. I hope you will surprise me some time when I am asleep dressed, steal over to me with a whore’s glow in your slumberous eyes, gently undo button after button in the fly of my trousers and gently take out your lover’s fat mickey, lap it up in your moist mouth and suck away at it till it gets fatter and stiffer and comes off in your mouth. Sometimes too I shall surprise you asleep, lift up your skirts and open your drawers gently, then lie down gently by you and begin to lick lazily round your bush. You will begin to stir uneasily then I will lick the lips of my darling’s cunt. You will begin to groan and grunt and sigh and fart with lust in your sleep. Then I will lick up faster and faster like a ravenous dog until your cunt is a mass of slime and your body wriggling wildly.

Goodnight, my little farting Nora, my dirty little fuckbird! There is one lovely word, darling, you have underlined to make me pull myself off better. Write me more about that and yourself, sweetly, dirtier, dirtier.

Ulysses is smut which is why it was banned in various countries. It being anything else is marxist gaslighting are revisionism.

>>14483653
>smut
I'm sure Chamber Music is as pure as the driven if you don't want to read smut
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xwveqn7ERwQ

>>14483648
Was Joyce just proto-deviant art?

>>14483653
The Bolsheviks hated Ulysses though. Karl Radek called it trash.

>>14483704
He was feuding with various marxist splinter groups. They are all cut from the same cloth, from the same clique, especially at the time when it was most trendy.

>>14483556
Sounds exactly like The Infinite Jest

The trick is to read it again and again

>>14483611
this is challenging me but also erotic.

>>14483514
That shouldn't be the way you react to it. Clearly you see that the book is on another level of erudition from you, so you should try and, slowly, steadily, bring yourself to that level.

Read the book, if you feel so inclined, and then do research after every chapter. Plus just concede that you won't get "everything" in just one read; don't let that pressure bog your mind down. If you allow it, it can be a tremendously fun and rewarding read.

>tfw 20th century lit is just gays bashing each other because all the men died in the world wars and the survivors abandoned all hope of continuing civilization

>>14483916
>the Greeks were totally straight
Mhmm

>>14483998
homosexual sex is natural, homosexuality is a mentally ill identity crisis due to gender dysphoria. learn to spot the difference, it might save your cock.

yea but that's the fun of it. you have to submit to it like a god and pray for meaning where you can find it and then when you do find something completely on your own it is like a miracle and you feel yourself validated as someone smart and sensitive enough to get it and you feel the book validated as something meaningful and sensitive enough to live up to all the hype and then you read another 5 pages of gibberish interspered with excerpts from old books and commentary on irish political debates nobody alive on earth knows or cares about anymore and then someone cums or shits or farts and you're won back again

>>14483621
>wikipedia

>>14484026
If you think his political discussions are defunct or obscure I don't know what to tell you. Parnell is still a huge figure in Irish culture today, and his depictions of the climate of the time is an interesting time capsule. Almost every political player mentioned in Ulysses currently has a major street named after them in Dublin. Not one word of Ulysses is "jibberish", although I will admit that the end of Oxen of the Sun is rough going. I didn't have it in me to personally decipher all of the slang as it came, but it has been done. Thats the one point where I just let the language do its thing.

>>14484002
Pls point me to where you developed this strange opinion from.

>>14483556
Way to sell it to /lit/. That's like telling /pol/ "don't watch Sam Hyde, he's a nazi!".

>>14485483
Not the OP, but when you read a lot of the Greek writers, they don't think of it as like "you are gay or straight", it's always like "some people get their rocks off with anyone, but everyone needs to find a woman to procreate"

Starting a family and having homosexual relations were just normal because having sex was thought of as just another thing to do, along with sacrificing to see if the gods think your endeavor is going to propitious.

>>14483514
apparently Dublinners is a lot better.