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So im reading Jorjani’s “Lovers of Sophia” which just arrived in the mail and I come across pic related. I don’t know if cringe or based (but im leaning heavily toward cringe), but in any case it came completely of left field wtf lol. I’m surprised this guy hasn’t become a meme here yet

>> No.14469296

>>14469272
It's absurdly hilarious. You're a fucking blockhead.

>> No.14469310

>>14469272
Can you post the entire passage? It's kind of hard to make heads or tails of this with little context. Also, what is the subject matter in that particular essay?

>> No.14469320
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>>14469310
Even with the context I can’t make heads or tails of it. That pic is from the intro so he doesn’t really explain it, maybe later in the text

pic related is from later in the intro. this guy is a massive meme lmao (but that’s not necessarily a bad thing)

>> No.14469329

he also calls Kafka and Bruce Lee “Aryans” in the intro. not sure if this is 4D trolling or what

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>>14469329
for reference

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>>14469320
>>14469389

>> No.14469447

>>14469320
He has been memed a bit in the esoterism general threads. From reading that small excerpt you posted, he seems like he's full of himself and kind of a douche, but he doesn't come across like that in his interviews or in Prometheus and Atlas.

>> No.14469461

>>14469447
he’s pretty ballsy though, you gotta admit. makes him fun to read despite the outlandishness of some of his ideas

>> No.14469472

>>14469389
>Jews are Aryans and totally based
How did this slip past the editors at Arktos?

>> No.14469792

>>14469472
Jorjani’s paranormal abilities

>> No.14470042

bump

>> No.14470327

>>14469272
Jorjani is an idiot. The modern West is promoting stupid Iranians like Jorjani, Negarestani, Ebadi, Nasr, and a few others. I know, for example, that Nasr worked on behalf of CIA, and there are several aspects in Jorjani's works that make me think he is involved in political technology kind of like Frederick Starr, another shady researcher in "Iranian history".
Most of what Jorjani says is retarded bullshit meant to make Iranians feel inferiority complex. What's funny is he, himself, isn't an Iranian but a Georgian-Turkic-Americunt mutt. His last name, "Jorjani", refers to Georgian migrants of a non-Iranian background. He is a complete trash thinker unlike myself, and anyone who likes himself should have their throats slashed.
>>14469329
>>14469389
>>14469472
>loves Jews
>says a bunch of nonsense
The man is obviously being paid by some external influences. He also changes his opinion to a drastic degree. What's funny is reviewers of his trash books don't even read them. In Prometheus he praises Islamic literary tradition of Iran and says it's better than Sassanids and other crap like that.
Morons like you prefer to piss away time on filth like Jorjani. A complete utter imbecile who even plagiarized me to a certain extent.

>> No.14470343

>>14470327
I knew you would come to the thread eventually. Sorry, I don’t know any literary agents.

>> No.14470389

>>14470343
Well, yeah, I know it was probably you considering there are only a few people shilling Jorjani here. You act like he's the next Kant. I'm drunk and could still see through your bullshit here.
Anyways, I have personally spoken to Jorjani, and he is a disingenuous faggot.

>> No.14470408

>>14470389
>You act like he's the next Kant
No, you have me confused with someone else. I only “shill” him because I think he’s fun, and I want other people to read him so we can discuss his ideas. I’m not a fan or anything, for sure he says a lot of stupid things, but also some interesting (albeit outlandish) things. By the way, I know you from back in the trad facebook group where you used to post your zurvanite prophetic writings or whatever, though I never read them.

>> No.14470424

>>14470408
Yeah, I suppose I did have you confused for someone else. I apologize for that.

>> No.14470425

>>14470327
>>14470389
who are you

>> No.14470432

>>14470425
he’s a regular poster here who claims to be a prophet (no disrespect to your holiness intended) and has published some horror stories though he won’t say which because he doesn’t want to get doxed. he is currently looking for a literary agent to publish some (illustrated?) children’s stories of his, so if you know of any give him a heads up. his “prophetic” stuff based on manichaen dualism but back when i knew him on facebook he was more into zurvanism (zurvan is the iranian god who is beyond god in evil, thus a monistic doctrine). he really hates jorjani and claims to know him personally. he occasionally makes dualism threads, they’re pretty good.

>> No.14470442

>>14469389
>by the way
yikes almighty, rightist authorship in modernity has been one big fucking slump

>> No.14470452

man industry shills in everything these days. i can't even enjoy my swimming with katie videos on youtube without them trying to sell me hypnotherapy courses.

>> No.14470504

>>14470442
>rightist
He seems more centrist or right of center at most, but honestly, his political alignment is difficult to pin down.

>> No.14470546

>>14470504
yeah, there’s some other part from the intro i didn’t screencap where he praises marx as an aryan thinker. he’s probably a nutcase, but he’s an interesting nutcase

>> No.14470551

>>14470327
>there are several aspects in Jorjani's works that make me think he is involved in political technology
Like what? I'm legitimately interested in listening.
>anyone who likes himself should have their throats slashed.
Don't you think you are being a little too unreasonable? Calm down.
>plagiarized me to a certain extent.
What ideas did he stole from you?

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>>14469272
He has an interesting reading of my dear Martin’s Being and Time in this interview with New Thinking Allowed https://youtu.be/21rydhdjC1s
Can’t say I’ve read the man.

>> No.14470614

>>14470551
>What ideas did he stole from you?
The stuff pertaining to Zurvan and Faustian mentality in his new book. Much of that was stolen from me. We spoke over email, and he made promises to me he never followed up on me. Instead, he stole a couple of my ideas from a short store I privately shared with him. Regardless, he no longer responds to me.
>Like what? I'm legitimately interested in listening.
How he brings up poor interpretations of archaeogenetics in order to demean modern Iranians. Moreover, how this is not related to much of his discussions. I could go more in-depth if need be. Suffice to say, it has to do with how he ignores the nuanced differences among Sintashta, Scythians, Iron Age Iranians, and Sogdians. We have autosomal samples that reveal all of these distinct differences in fact.
>Don't you think you are being a little too unreasonable? Calm down.
I am drunk and pissed off over a recent injustice unrelated to all of this. One of my online stores got shut down for absolutely no reason. Anyways, not to derail this topic, I don't like mixing contemporary political or social dilemmas with either philosophy or art. Jorjani commits this error a lot.
He's a poor thinker. It's best to focus your interests elsewhere like whether P = NP or not. Shit like that.

>> No.14470624

>>14469272
Wait, is zurvanfag jorjani?

>> No.14470646

>>14470624
It’s an intriguing possibility

>> No.14470647

>>14470432
Damn, that's actually not that bad. I was expecting it to be another resident schizo but he sounds normal, just identifiable because he posts about things he has actually done or actually has a deep interest in.

Why can't guenonfag be like this? It would make him tolerable.

>> No.14470649

>>14469389
>On the Ontology of Self-Name-Dropology

>> No.14470660

I am the anon version of Jorjani but infinitely better. My humility has reached levels you wouldn't believe.

>> No.14470668

>>14470647
I’m sorry to say, but he is actually pretty schizo (sorry prophet anon). he’s still a pretty cool poster though

>> No.14470678

>>14470577
If you’re interested in that his main writing on Heidegger is in Prometheus and Atlas. Be prepared from some pretty out there shit in the book though. There’s a bunch of stuff on UFO’s and ESP and shit like that. Also there’s a whole section on Neon Genesis Evangelion lmao

>> No.14470686

>>14470668
angra/spentanon is one of the best posters on here. I'll take one angry dualist whose actually done the work over a thousand guenon barnacles any day

>> No.14470695

>>14470686
If he's the anon I'm thinking of, he even responds cordially to the guenonfag's shitty "lol u mad dualism BTFO!" posts which I appreciate.

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>>14470695
Dualism is 100% true and the warmed-over non-dualism so relentlessly shilled by dullards and poos on this board gives me an ulcer. spentanon tells it like it is.

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>>14470577
>fairly good reading of Heidegger's philosophy that doesn't dumb it down to platitudes
>interviewer mentions Colin Wilson
>Jorjani is intimately familiar with Colin Wilson

Now I feel happy. How often do you hear someone talk about Wilson these days?

>> No.14470762

>>14470614
kek

>> No.14470767

>>14470624
Who even are these people and how do you notice them through all the guenonposting?

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>>14470767
>i don't even see the guenonposts anymore, i just see schizo, dilettante, dilettante, schizo...

>> No.14471737

Fuck Jorjani bump

>> No.14472315

>>14470743
The host of that show is a big fan of Wilson and discusses him in several other videos if you’re interested. I’ve come across Wilson a lot recently as a lot of folks who I like to read/listen to have mentioned him. I haven’t personally read any of stuff by Wilson, but I’m planning on looking into him more.

>> No.14473762

>>14470678
>Also there’s a whole section on Neon Genesis Evangelion lmao
does he completely misunderstand the plot again like he did in that one video

>> No.14473798

>>14473762
depends what you consider "misunderstanding the plot". i thought his analysis was on point

>> No.14473913

>>14473762
He interprets the series as a gnostic rebellion against the archons, but any Christian interpretation of the NGE is retarded because the series creator inserted Christian symbolism because it looked cool and nothing else.

>> No.14473935

>>14473913
it doesn't matter what the creator intended, at least not from jorjani's pov. if you read the earlier part of the book that would be clear. his aesthetic theories are a necessary prelude to the section on nge.

>> No.14473966

>>14470614
Post the emails. He is a scurrilous dog then and deserves no consideration.

>> No.14474040

>>14469320
A daring synthesis between based and cringe

>> No.14474242

>>14474040
a pretty good summation of jorjani. like imagine if someone caused you to cringe so hard that it then caused an involuntary muscle spasm which in turn caused you to dab harder than you’ve dabbed before. it’s like horseshoe theory applied to based/cringe. he’s at the meeting point of the maximums of cringe and based.

>> No.14474449

>>14470408
>I only “shill” him because I think he’s fun

goddamn redditor

>> No.14474489

>>14474449
ive never posted on reddit in my life and ive been here longer than you, newfag