/lit/ - Literature

>>14463587
Stop engaging with mass politics. Take up pottery instead.

>>14463595
What about work

>"dude stop letting your ideology fool you!"
>Literally believes in the cult known as communism
what a hack

idk who cares leftism (or "post leftism") is so last decade


cant we all just be unironic tranny fascists yet?

>>14463610

Pottery is work

>>14463642
Pretty good bait

>>14463652
Cope. How is it bait, if I am wrong go ahead and explain how

>>14463587
You can not, the material force if ideology prevents us from seeing what we are effectively eating *sniff*

>>14463648
You aint making any money from it

>>14463642
Yo we got a live retard here

>>14463653
You don't know what communism is.

>>14463663
>Communism is somehow something outside of ideology

>>14463668
I'm pretty sure he doesn't think anything is outside of ideology.

>>14463663
>>14463661
>I'm not in a cult, everyone else is!

>>14463668
well by definition of Marx, yes it is. Read "The german ideology". His idea of ideology it's not equivalent to a system or a theory. Physics are not ideology, for example

>>14463704
>It's a cult
>How do you know that
>Because I say so

>>14463642
Better than believing in the cult of humanity you worthless slave.

>>14463708
Not reading literal propaganda

>>14463653
Because the Crux of his argument is that human subjectivity needs some ideological component to make a complete understanding of the world. Although our own ideology is not immediately apparent to us.
He would never argue that you need to "escape your ideology" since that is literally impossible in his understanding. You'd know that too If you'd spent even 5 seconds on Google first Mr big brain poster

>>14463587
Reading Stirner

>>14463587
How would he explain this toilet?

>>14463984
I need to read a book to learn how to think for myself? No thanks. :)

>>14463997

>>14463984
What does Stirner say to do

>>14463587
You can't. That's the thing about ideology.

>>14463997
We need to see the inside first

>>14464506
What can I do to make it sting less

>>14463642
>>Literally believes in the cult known as communism

>>14464500
Ideology=spooks

>>14464762
guerilla ontology

>>14464773
I thought a spook was a nigger?

>>14464513
What if there's no time? The angle of the toilet may prevent proper shitting posture so that the flush occurs inside the person.

Just sit sideways on the top

>>14464785
Get with the times.
Nigger=dumb and violent person
Fag=loud and obnoxious Harley bikers.

>>14463678
Zizek equivocates and uses the word ideology to denote something different (a fantasy which structures social reality), that he can only "explain" by going full retard on Lacanian nonsense.
Of course the ideology as understood in the regular sense can itself affect very fundamental, word-structuring beliefs, but it's nowhere near as totalizing as Zizek would need to have it for his equivocation to not be an equivocation.
The immediate social sphere is much more practical. There isn't a need for this fantasy to function within it that is so rich in content that it can accommodate an entire ideology. Elements of ideology can be specific misinterpretations of the same barebones fantasy, at most.

>>14463668
Communism denotes a movement a science and a social organization. None of those are ideology.

>>14465459
>Communism denotes a movement a science and a social organization. None of those are ideology.
what marxists actually believe

>>14463653
well, ok. First of all, Žižek doesn't believe in the cult known as communism. He self-identifies as a Marxist, but he's far from being a cultist. He criticises Soviet Union all the time and openly admits he has no solution against capitalism.

>>14465528
Zizek does endorse communism.

>>14465528
>He criticises Soviet Union all the time
He is a Yugoslav, of course he does.

you cant. the most that can be done is acknowledge the fact openly, and then maybe explore other trashcans. we are scavengers or we die.

>>14465535
No, he rejects the communist program. He says vague shit like "we'll have to do something on a large scale to deal with climate change, ai, etc." and calls that communism.

>>14463642
damn dude sorry to see so many negative replies to your post

this is a zizek thread, after all
I don’t know what I’m doing here but apparently its to say this

>>14465885
he rejects stalinism but he thinks in terms of it's socialism or barbarism, "see you either in hell or in communism".

>>14463642
>your brain on american ideology

>>14465916
>he rejects stalinism
He rejects the communist program as put down by Marx in the first chapter of Capital.
And he doesn't even reject Stalinism properly. I heard him mindlessly repeat the classic Stalinist mystification according to which according to Marx in a lower stage of communism the law of value persists (https://vocaroo.com/epxtAxvEQsD).). So while he definitely rejects Stalinism superficially in many ways, his understanding of the very basics of Marx remains distorted by it.
>"see you either in hell or in communism"
But I already explained that he doesn't mean communism when he says communism. Same thing as when he talks about ideology. Now that I think about it, he probably wouldn't be half as interesting to the reddit crowd if it weren't for all those equivocations which make him sound more radical than he is.

Isnt thinking that everyone should think like a commie ideology even if "marxism" isnt in itself ideology? How dis work help a brainlet

>>14463642

>>14463653
Everything you wrote shows you understand neither Zizek, nor Lacanian psychoanalysis, nor communism. The idea that we can escape ideology is a fucking farce and pretending like Zizek is advocating for that is such a profound misreading of his most basic thoughts that it makes any further discussion entirely useless.

>>14463792
>not reading propaganda
>not reading

>>14463587
looks like he can't stop eating anything lol, let alone ideology

>>14463657
No, you make pots.

>>14463587
You can start by not following every /lit/ meme, like Guenon or Catholicism or Jordan B Peterson.

>>14463645
It's never going to be a perfect world, anon.

Friendly reminder, if you didn't get these memes you're eating from the trash can.

>>14467028
redpill me on accelerationism.