/lit/ - Literature

He has to hate himself. No wonder he's a walking pharmacy.

when the fuck did he get out of rehab? he clearly still needs it

dude's an obvious charlatan. cant believe people take him seriously

>>14457159
has he ever thought about giving his little whore of a daughter some of these rules for life?

>>14457201
I had no idea that carnivore diet was actually a metaphor for BBC.

>>14457159
>Forward by Dave Rubin
lmao

The previous book is not bad, and I'm saying this as an atheist. This was also my first exposure to Jordan Peterson (and even today I haven't ever watched any of his youtube videos, I only read the book because Felix said that it's worth reading). The only problem is that sometimes he humbles a bit, but there are interesting ideas there too. I'll definitely read the new book.

>>14457159
the fact that he now flaunts his recently acquired wealth with three piece suits and leather loafers displays his true goal. In his old lecture videos he was super casual; now that he is known he feels he needs to strut his stuff like a woman in her prime.

>its actually real
wtf

>>14457333
>there are interesting ideas there too

>>14457678
His rule about raising children is one of the most based and redpilled in the book. This is why zoomers are such a failure, parents today don't know how to say no and punish bad behavior.

Go read the book and write an actual critic instead of posting meme excerpts from jokes.

>>14457739
> parents today don't know how to say no and punish bad behavior
My parents would always tell me know and my mom in particular would talk about punishment on a daily basis, and yet I'm still an autistic loser who browses the worst board on 4chan. How do you explain that?

>>14457773
Biology. You were born to be a faillure, so it doesnt matter how you were raised. Most people are not like you, so it's a good rule.

>>14457739
>omg based lobster man said to do what evangelical Christians have been saying to do for 100 years
>truly redpilled

>>14457159
based

>>14457159
I didn't even realize there was a new book.

>>14457333
his youtube lectures are deeper and more interesting, this >>14457678 reads like my twisted world.

I mean Zizek has been doing pretty much the same for the past several years, but at least he doesn't hide it behind the guise of "fixing your life"

>>14457333
Yeah, Peterson on politics or fucking post-modern neo-marxisms is a meme, but his self-help books are unironically above average for the genre.

>>14457333
>This was also my first exposure to Jordan Peterson (and even today I haven't ever watched any of his youtube videos, I only read the book because Felix said that it's worth reading)
I can't say this enough, go watch his university lecture series, start with "Personality and its transformations" and watch them in their intended order. Its leagues above book 12 rules for life. The lecture series are aimed people with presumably higher IQ while the book is aimed more at the general public so its dumbed down and dosn't really have the depth his lectures have. That goes for most of the talks and interviews he has done these last years as well. Its very much a case of "his old stuff was better" or "he was better before he was famous"

>>14457678
What's wrong with this?

>>14457678
that's actually, unironically, hilarious if that's actually in there

>>14458075
Yeah?
What is the distilled Žižek message/them running through his books?

>>14458057
What is his deepest video that could certainly appeal to people with neutral opinions about him?

>>14457773
>My parents would always tell me know and my mom in particular would talk about punishment on a daily basis, and yet I'm still an autistic loser who browses the worst board on 4chan. How do you explain that?
You know that just as there can be to little punishment for bad behavior there can be to much punishment for bad behavior, or even punishment for good behavior? Or even just punishment for the sake of punishment cus your parents are fucked in their heads? Right?

>>14458695
nothing wrong, it shows that it is just a self-help book
and that makes it wrong

>>14458702
>he distilled Žižek message/THEME*

Peterson has dedicated a good portion of his professional life to helping the irredeemable, most worthless, egotistical, vicious, and self-righteous young men on the internet. That includes many users of this site. It comes as no surprise to me that it got to him eventually.

>>14458704
I don't know the deepest, but the maps of meaning lectures and biblical series are pretty good.

>>14458292
Peterson might be too stupid/afraid to explain what his neurotic drug-addled mind was grasping at with 'postmodern neomarxism' but I understood what that meant immediately.

In this context Neomarxism is the way that instead of economic class based analysis, they've moved onto rage, gender, sexual orientation and identity, etc like those were the new proletariat. Many Feminists are explicit about how their 'class' analysis of gender/sex came from Marx and they claim that radical feminism has to be Marxist or socialist of some type. And Postmodernism is the skepticism about the empirical results of various sciences, calling them specific discourses created by power structures that reinforce oppression, while never subjecting that view of reality to the same skepticism(Foucault is the only one who did this really by calling out Acadmia's discourse as another power structure). IQ studies are an obvious example of this but Peterson can only bring those up when defending Jews.

Now that's obviously not really what the commonly accepted definitions of Postmodernism(good luck getting people to be clear about the diverse set of things called postmodern) or neomarxism, which is just more recent versions of Marxism rather than 'cultural marxism' or the change of focus from economic class to other identities. However, there is a real thread connecting all these people, the Marxists and the Postmodernists should not a priori really give a shit about gender/race/etc one way or the other, but they in fact pretty much all fall on the Progressive side of the debate, with increasing purity as time goes on and the universities are consolidated into one perspective. These Progressives are Peterson's real target, and they did in fact borrow from both Marx and postmodern theories, but on a very superficial, sort of opportunistic level.

he can't really come out and explain or even maybe understand any of this because he's some retarded conservative boomer pseudo-christian literally mentally ill drug addict narcissist. But it's still clear that he noticed something happening in academia, he was a professor at UofT after all, and his scattered mind searched about for something to call it and 'postmodern neomarxism' is what it came up with, something vaguely related to the actual phenomenon of Progressivism, which would require much more than a 4chan post to explain, but not treading too closely to any topics too taboo for either his mind or public opinion to touch on.

>>14457678
any more funny excerpts?

>>14458075
Hasn't he written a 1000 page book on Hegel, I don't think that's true.

I can't believe people talk about Dostoevsky and Peterson on the same board.

C'mon /lit/... show some class

>>14457159
>Foreword by David Rubin
Do people actually like this faggot?

>>14457159
this isn't real faggots

>>14457333
>Felix
how's it going chapotranny

>>14457932
It's not finished yet, but he did a hour and a half overview and after an exceedingly boring introduction about his writing process he's right back to talking about conquering the dragon so you can get the gold.

This book is a companion to "12 Rules an Antidote to Chaos", it is "12 Rules Beyond Order" on the virtues of chaos and the dangers of order.

The first rule is not to criticize institutions.

>>14457193
It’s because they were abused as children by their parents

>>14458883
That's his only good book. Every year he releases the same pop-philosophy garbage.

>>14457193
Take it back.

>>14458754
>Peterson might be too stupid/afraid to explain what his neurotic drug-addled mind was grasping at with 'postmodern neomarxism' but I understood what that meant immediately.
Cut to the chase. It's jews.

a lot of whataboutism when he could just wrote two words

IT'S THE JEWS.

>All the seething commies ITT
Fuck off, Dr Peterson might be a bit of a meme but he's still very intelligent and knows how to help guide people to a better life

>>14459030
this reminds me from the day that I reposted here a "diary entry" post tier from the felix literature subreddit and only after doing so I clicked on the profile from op and it was literally a mtf

>>14459430
He's a gatekeeper and a shill. His purpose is to gaslight young huwhite men and stop them from becoming racially aware. He wouldn't be promoted and published if he wasn't.

Rule 1. SSRIs rule.

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>>14459700
Out of touch gen x'ers and boomers unironically think these retards are the evil puppet masters of """right wing thought""" on the internet.

>>14459030
I'm pretty sure he means Pewdiepie? Trying to give some form of grace to someone who is pretty much a neo-nazi manchild.

>>14459700
Is it kosher to sit that close to your sh*bbos goy while celebrating purim? Shouldn't Peterson be sitting on the floor?

By the way I'm white haha, Jews are white, we're the same people as you haha

>>14459728
Explain khazar milkers then.

>>14457333
>The previous book is not bad
It's shallow drivel. Whether you view that as bad is up to you.

>>14459236
The Sublime Object of Ideology is also good. His meme books are just cash grabs, admittedly.

>>14459503
Post it here