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What exactly was the relationship between Frodo and Sam? It seems very... "close"

>> No.14385188

>>14385181
Master and servant

>> No.14385189

>>14385188
like the greeks?

>> No.14385190

>>14385181
Something a woman could never understand.

>> No.14385193

>>14385181
Practice gf

>> No.14385200

>>14385189
No, like the English

>> No.14385206

>>14385200
the english are gay?

>> No.14385220

>>14385206
Only the bottom is gay.

>> No.14385227

>>14385220
so they are greek, in spirit

>> No.14385233

>>14385190
based

>> No.14385272

You think gays are jealous of women and lesbians?

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>>14385190

>> No.14385356

>>14385181
they were friends stop being dumb

>> No.14386130

>>14385181
frodo was a powerbottom

>> No.14386173

>>14385190
Literally this.

>> No.14386228

>>14385181
fun fact
sam was named after the man who invented gauze bandages
and his brother made the first ice rink. the "ice" was made of pig fat and salt as the technology to keep large amounts of ice cold hadn't been invented yet

t. just watched repeat of QI

>> No.14386262
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>>14385181
>Frodo rose from its chair. The suckling pig with 'taters and onions dipped in garlic juice laid restless on the silver plate, inlaid with gold. Sam rose with him, a curious look on his face.
>'What's the matter lord Frodo? Is something a miss?'
>'Where's that elf whore I was promised, Sam? I came here to jest and whore my last days away, and I'm out of jest already.' said Frodo, face red with the dark Rivendell wine he drank, a red stain on his fine satin tunic. 'I want my whore and I WANT HER NOW!'
>Sam always hated when he shouted. There were days when Frodo could be as sweet and innocent as a maid on her wedding night, but there were others when he could become aggressive if something was to his dislike. This was one of those days. He always shouted when he was angry. And he always turned violent when he shouted.
>Please gods, not on my face. Please, I've been good to lord Frodo, don't let him turn his rage on my face, please!
>'Sam? My dear Sam, look at me' a sly smile was on Frodo's face, and with a gentle hand, he brushed Sam's cheek, as a man pets his dog. 'You've always been good to me, haven't you Sam? You've always been there for me... You've always been a good boy, haven't you?'
>Fear struck on his face as he watched his master unbutton his breaches. His erect cock was out before Sam could muster any sound.
>'Now Sam, let's see how deep is your Bag's end.'

>> No.14386458

>>14386262
Post the one where Rosie gets porked

>> No.14387856

>>14386262
Holy shit please tell me there’s more

I’ve always said Martins work deserves to be included into the western canon.

>> No.14388777

>>14386458
>'What's your name, wench?' Faramir spoke gruffly.
>'Rosie Cotton, but most call me Rose, if it please m'lord' answered the stout hobbit female, if indeed a creature barely three feet tall could be called that. Faramir noticed that her skirt lambasted many crudely drawn floral motifs, such as they were. Still, it was tattered and its hems were dirty.
>'We had a name for those of your kind in Gondor, though I dare say they were not as diminutive, far from it, my dear bulbous rose', mused Faramir while a nasty grin bloomed across his face.
>'M'lord'?
>'We called them slam-sows, and you fit the type. If your cunt is accomodating enough, we can play enter-my-castle ere the day is done'. He started unclasping his sword belt.
>'But...Samwise -'
>...is only half a man. Time for you to ascertain the full length of your boundaries. Get in that grass hole like a good gopher, I don't have all day. That pointed-hat pederast is bound to come knocking before I finish...' The round door closed with a rusty whine, and soon grunts could be heard, as when a cumbersome lad straddles a pig on a dare.

>> No.14388810

>>14388777
I've got girl erect by the time I finished reading this.

>> No.14388855

The most obvious reference point for the relationship between Frodo and Sam is the idea of an officer and his batman, or a gentleman and his valet.

It's worth noting that there is a notable theme in WWI literature of homeroticism in the relation between officer and ranks, so there's good contextual grounds for reading the Frodo/Sam dynamic as gay if you're inclined to do so. It's a reasonably valid interpretation textually although obviously not the only possible one.

>> No.14388870

>>14385181
hurr durr all close relationships are gay and homosexual and sexual the only possible reason to look a man in the eyes is if you want to have disgusting gay homo sex with him
god i fucking hate coomers and fujoshits

>> No.14388924

You are a profound cancer. Why can women be close friends but not men?

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>>14388870
why are you this mad over a dumb /lit/ thread?

>> No.14388971

>>14388941
Probably an actual faggot

>> No.14389037

>>14385181
its friendship
something lost in this dead npc world
t.21 year old boomer

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>>14386262
>'Now Sam, let's see how deep is your Bag's end.'

>> No.14389595

>>14388870
based

>> No.14390055

>>14388870
this but unironically

>> No.14390688

>>14388870
based

>> No.14390722

>>14389037
>my scant 21 years are sufficient experience for me to opine on such things

Laughing at your deficiencies, baby.

>> No.14390743

>>14388870
based and agapepilled

>> No.14390998

>>14385181
Nobleman and his valet. A few hints from the officer/aide relation in wwi.
The vomit-inducing homosex isn't even the worst thing about faggots. It is this attempt at perverting any friendship within a hierarchy. You can't befriend a superior/inferior.

>> No.14391027

>>14388810
Shut the fuck up tranny

>> No.14391053

>so there's good contextual grounds for reading the Frodo/Sam dynamic as gay if you're inclined to do so
Maybe if youre a tumblrina who wants to ignore the fact tolkien was catholic

>> No.14391104

>>14388855
How did it take this long for someone to point out this extremely well known fact.

>It's worth noting that there is a notable theme in WWI literature of homeroticism in the relation between officer and ranks
Yeah, obviously if you were a homo you found the relationship homoerotic, and so it's not a completely invalid reading, but at the same time there's no indication Tolkien was a homo so the "actual" relationship between Frodo and Sam wasn't gay.

>> No.14391151

>>14391053
>>14391104
We're talking about interpretations of a text here, and the validity of various possible readings

It literally does not matter at all whether Tolkien was a heterosexual Catholic (and by the way, Anglo-Catholic literature from the period is often just extraordinarily homoerotic, so that's not really the rebuttal you seem to think it is)

If it's a justifiable interpretation from the text, then it's a justifiable interpretation of the text, period

>> No.14391165

Sam goes on to get married and have a bunch of kids. He's not gay. The relationship between Frodo and Sam were what relationship between friends used to be before the gays ruined everything. Now men have to be distant from each other.

>> No.14391167

>Sam goes on to get married and have a bunch of kids. He's not gay.

FFS, why do you even bother saying such obviously stupid shit

>> No.14391183

>>14391167
Why do you think that's stupid?

>> No.14391202

>>14391183
It's an observable objective fact that homosexual desire or action does not preclude heterosexual relationships

>> No.14391221

>>14391202
Some gay people can get married and have kids, but that's far from the norm. A man getting happily married and having a big family is evidence that he's not gay. You're taking these weird exceptional cases and acting as if it's the rule. That's stupid.

>> No.14391228

>>14385181
If you knew anything about LOR you would know hobbits reproduce asexualy.

>> No.14391257

>>14385181
>went to an all boy school
>still have some friends from that time
>onions that see us together think we are fucking because we don't recoil when being less than 30cm from each other.
We really need to stop the fags.

>> No.14391383

>>14391151
>le death of the author
I hope you're enjoying the winter break from your non-elite university.

>> No.14391608

>>14385190
Unironically this.