/lit/ - Literature

Foucault is in large part the mind behind this

>>14372615
Moron.

Please tell me this article is fake

This is some neightmare/vomit inducing stuff

Read libido dominandi. The author is a christ cuck and the edition is awful but it's the only book I've found about this topic.

>>14372668
No, it’s real. Libraries across the country are hosting these satanic beasts to perform for children

there should be a rule where if your thread is just politics bait with "books about this?" tacked on at the end, you get an automatic permaban

>>14372668
Found the burger. Cringe, yes, but it's just a dick.

>>14372722
>cringe
>it's just a dick (showed at kids)

you seriously have to go back

>>14372722
>He thinks you have to be a burger find crossdressing men flashing their dicks to kids repulsive

If he wasn't crossdressing libtards wouldn't allow it btw.

>>14372722
>but it's just a dick
This is the most discord tranny post I've ever seen

>>14372722
>>14372722
if it's just a dick, why are leftists so obsessed with shoving dicks in children's faces? there is obvious ideological push to promote identity politics, sexualisation and normalisation of minors, the cultural marxist notion of a politically correct homosexual victim lifestyle as being more inherently righteous than normal people. Why do these people think we owe them anything? what have they ever done beyond getting fucked in the ass?

>>14372615
Homosexuality is not transgender.
Drag is not transgender.

Gender is a social construct, and ignoring the linguistic sense of gender, manifests as gender roles. People, taking disatisfaction with gender roles in their society, might accelerate to a rebellion through contrarian performance of gender roles opposite to their birth sex.

To complicate matters, this intersects with transexuality which is genuinely closer to the rhetoric that surrounds "transgender" politics. The vast majority of transexuals are also transgender, however one cannot discount queer transexuals, which further muddy the line. On top of all of this, there are transvestites, who have nothing to really do with the identity politics of the matter, and are just men who get off on crossdressing. Naturally, with crossdressers being socially taboo, there's an increasingly popular regressive scapegoat that transgender people and transexual people are just extreme transvestites, notably coined by the AGP theory.

There are of course, more straight transvestites than there are gay transvestites, but that's besides the point. Also, drag can be thought of as a form of clowning. It's not a turn on for a performer, but can be thought of as a mockery of transvestites. You are correct to realize that this is a highly complex social phenomenon, but using muddied language and crossing wires isn't doing you any favors in coming to comprehend it. This is the future your ancestors chose when they sexually selected for greater sexual dimorphism.

When will it end?

>>14372623
Hmmm. Any books Foucault wrote that would be particularly insightful on this topic?

>>14372767
why do this people believe they are rebellious when they are supported and promoted by all major corporations? if they are so good, then why aren't we allowed to criticise them?

>>14372767
It’s not, though. I hate to parrot Paul (99%) Skallas, but LGBT acceptance is not Lindy, and is simply the flavor of the month in regards to capturing cultural intrigue

>>14372668
Yes, it's sensationalized garbage. The media thrives on your attention, and the easiest way to get a fools attention is to yell "Hey look, somebody's doing something NAUGHTY"

There is no dick being shown, it's skin colored pants.

>>14372767
>Gender is a social construct

So does that imply that if a boy is raised as a girl it would behave as a girl and vice versa?

>>14372772
>>14372623
Foucault was actually a right wing traditionalist libertarian who criticised identity politics, marxism and the sexual revolution

>>14372733
>muh children
Children tend to be chill about the human body. It's adults who choose to be hysterical about it
>>14372735
If he wasn't crossdressing I'd still laugh about it
>>14372742
This is the most burger post I've ever seen
>>14372756
Why are americans so obsessed with associating nudity to sex?

>>14372795
>Sexualizing kids is ok if it's not explicit

Why don't you straight up admit you're a pedo?

>>14372813
I'm not a burger. It isn't an argument either.

>>14372822
At least tell me you're anglo otherwise what's your excuse for the soccer mom mentality?

>>14372813
it has always been leftists and lgbt who are obsessed with childhood sexuality. this already happened once.

>Germany's left has its own tales of abuse. One of the goals of the German 1968 movement was the sexual liberation of children. For some, this meant overcoming all sexual inhibitions, creating a climate in which even pedophilia was considered progressive.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-sexual-revolution-and-children-how-the-left-took-things-too-far-a-702679.html

Drag Queen Storytime: Convicted pedophile, dressed as a woman, reads to kids at public library

Thirty-two-year-old Albert Garza is a registered sex offender who was convicted of assaulting an eight-year-old boy in 2008, yet that has not hindered him from dressing in garish women’s clothing, calling himself “Tatiana Mala Nina,” and performing in front of kids.
>https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/drag-queen-storytime-convicted-pedophile-dressed-as-a-woman-reads-to-kids-at-public-library

>>14372769
its not that big of a deal

>>14372813
More than a half of /lit/ ain't american you massive retard, burgers do not read. Go back to your discord and ask your deviant friends for a better argument.

>>14372813
You're genuinely retarded. I hope you're trans so that you never have kids of your own and further spread these retarded genes.

Fucking retard, honestly. There's only so much retards I can stand on this board.

>>14372828
today's soccer moms are pro-lgbt secular identity politics shitlibs.

>>14372813
>>14372836
And for the record I'm Swedish/Irish (Swe dad Irish mom).

>>14372786
A lot of lgbt people are anti-Pink Capitalism. which is what that is. You can criticize the corporations who only want to show "that they really care"


Sexuality/gender expression is not overt rebellion sanctioned by corporations, but internal revolution in a sense that many people feel an unease in regards to their position in society and cultural optics and change themselves

>>14372668
What's wrong with educating kids about LGBT and letting them know what their options are?

>>14372786
Because they are not rebelling against corporations, they are rebelling against a specific social pressure that is anecdotally real to them. Whether or not Nike pays someone to color their logo as a rainbow is irrelevant to this person. The disatisfaction is not a result of proponent social forces, but of antagonistic, opposing social forces.

>>14372789
The assertion that a cultural focus is temporary is ridiculous, you have completely missed the implication.

>>14372852
what's wrong with sexualising children and shoving cultural marxism down their throats?

>>14372848
its an organised program of social engineering. the goal is to create the perfect ideologically compliant consumer.

>>14372866
children already have an inherent sexuality and cultural marxism doesn't even exist

>>14372866
Doesn't mean every child who sees a rainbow logo is up for sucking dick. Its pure paranoia

>>14372852
>Options

So it is a choice?

>>14372799
No. The defining characteristics of gender vary wildly through populations, and can balkanize right down to individual conceptions. The social importance of easy categorization is a catalyst that sees the creation of these roles, and it's that same importance that may drive a boy raised under the gender roles of a girl in his society to adhere to the male role regardless. Socialization does not stop at any point in a life, and new values, goals and methods replace old ones as they are absorbed.

>>14372615
We are aggressive because we know that the current state of affairs can at any point be undone. We are not so stupid and naive as to think you people will ever give up on wishing to roll back our hard won rights. We will continue to proselytize to the next generation to ensure our safety. The hostility we receive in doing so just confirms our prognosis. We will wage an eternal battle against homophobia and we will prevail.

>>14372873
>cultural marxism doesn't even exist
https://twitter.com/jewishworker?lang=en
According to the Jewish Worker, a Jewish Far-Left Radical organization it most certainly does. How can "Cultural Marxism" not exist when it is a clearly defined term? It sounds like you're dismissing it based on ideological conventions rather than Reason.

>>14372615
I'd review the works of the Frankfurt School, primarily the concept of "Repressive Tolerance" because this is fundamentally the number 1 ideological weapon used by the LGBT foot soldiers today. For the record, I am not anti-homosexual but I am most certainly anti-LGBT. LGBT is a weaponized movement, not about love or any of the other Trademark slogans they develop. For example, this kind of behavior in front of children is simply inexcusable bread and circuses.

Get familiar with Post-modernism as well, Foucalt for example was a Pedophile and most others were as well. Also, the father of LGBT mentality (especially in terms of the gender dysphoria propaganda) look up John Money who performed a sexual experiment on a young boy named David Reimer by re-assigning him to female after heavy amounts of psychological testing in his childhood. Reimer killed himself but John Money is still praised by Cultural Marxists, Critical Theorists, and LGBT to this day. The whole thing is rooted mostly in psychological manipulation (with more direct roots in Freudian Psychoanalysis which was not an actual psychological science but rather a political weapon) and pedophilia.

(e.g. John Money is the founding thinker of this whole "gender theory" thing).

>>14372859
>they are rebelling against a specific social pressure that is anecdotally real to them. Whether or not Nike pays someone to color their logo as a rainbow is irrelevant to this person. The disatisfaction is not a result of proponent social forces, but of antagonistic, opposing social forces.


what are these shadowy social forces you speak of? this is a concerted attempt to undermine western and christian culture and impose the ideology of identity politics. leftists and globalists merely replace the cross with the rainbow and christ with a transvestite, the eucharist with sodomy and the sacrament of baptism with abortion. Sure, some supposedly chaste christian clergy might be guilty of sexual transgressions, but leftist clergy (lgbt) base all their righteousness on the sexual revolution, anyone with half a brain can see where these is heading. these people are sexually deranged, activelly relish victimhood, and won't ever be satisfied even were leftists to give them full licence to rape children in the open street

>>14372830
Listen, I'm not interested in your scaremongering. I find penises inherently funny and I find the OP situation fucking hilarious. The fact it's a tranny only adds another layer to the comedy.
>>14372833
seething
>>14372836
You're out of luck pal
>>14372840
Apparently not
>>14372843
Så hur blev du så pryd av dig?

>>14372815
Where is the sexualization that was not invented by that article?

>>14372615

>>14372902
It is simply put a Cultural Marxist experiment on the minds of children by introducing them to sexual perverts at a young age. Pedophile and founder of Gender Theory, John Money, also did similar experiments on young boys for example the young boy David Reimer who John Money "gender re-assigned" into a woman. Reimer blew his head off with a shotgun in his 30's and John Money is celebrated by the LGBT community to this day.

Why do so many of you worried about a minority of people that really have no effect on your lives? Live and let live

>>14372910
Yes but we can have 15 Marxist threads. Go to hell.

>>14372902
see >>14372830. the nature of this 'civil rights movement' is obvious to anyone that hasn't been lobotomised. people are waking up to your propaganda. tell me lgbt, where do you set the line? is there any abhorrent display you aren't willing to defend? these images would have been unimaginable just 10 years ago, if things keep this way, where will we be in 10 years?

>>14372929
This is a really naive dismissal of the erosion of societal fabric by suggesting that these are "minority" problems. America, first and foremost, has been overrun by minority problems thus adding another is only more weight onto the collapsing building. For example it was a dedicated minority that radically altered the Immigration Policies of the US in the 1965 Hart-Cellar Act. For more information please consult the "Culture of Critique" which has a very in-depth analysis about this situation. A book I think very much worth reading, especially if you are still in the belief that "minority" groups have no power. If the percentage is small but organized and concentrated it is far more powerful than a high percentage group with low organizational ability.

>>14372929
Because they do have an impact on normal peoples' lives. This is the same lie repeated about gays in the 90s and 00s. These people insert themselves into our lives either via children's education, politics, etc.

>>14372932
Marxism has theory and literature. Thus, its on topic. This shit has jpegs and spurious articles and reverting to blaming "the Jews"

>>14372929

the problem is ''they'' are not a persecuted minority, that just wants to be left alone but an ideological movement of highly disturbed, organised and funded militants bent on social subversion

>>14372942
>lgbt have to stay in their own world and not interfere in ours!
>lgbt live in our world and we should teach our children about these things
>NOOO YOU CAN'T THATS MIIIIINNNE

>>14372956
>they are not persecuted minority
>hundreds of lgbt people are either killed, denied jobs or housing because of who they are

leave your echo chamber every once in a while

>>14372952
There is theory and literature involved in these topics. I have provided some already, you aren't reading because it bothers you. I can't be held accountable for that.

>>14372979
Which? Not him just curious

>>14372979
If its "culture of critique" you're a brainlet

>>14372894
>what are these shadowy social forces you speak of?
Nothing "shadowy" about it, as this was outlined in my original post, then extrapolated into the second post as the anecdotal social experiences of these people.

>this is a concerted attempt to undermine western and christian culture
Curious assertion.

>leftists and globalists merely replace the cross with the rainbow and christ with a transvestite, the eucharist with sodomy and the sacrament of baptism with abortion
Interesting comparison of signs, but the analogy doesn't really hold up beyond the surface. In what way are these comparable to each other?

>anyone with half a brain can see where these is heading
I wouldn't trust the perceptive judgement of someone with half of their brain.

Ecclesiastes 1:9

>>14372961
Well look at the result of when "LGBT" (a political movement, by the way) involves itself in the public sphere? We noted already that the founder of gender theory, John Money, was a pedophile responsible for the suicide of David reimer, one of his patients.

>>14372987
I have already mentioned the works of the Frankfurt School, particularly worth reviewing is the concept of "Repressive Tolerance" which was by Marcuse (and probably one of the most important figures to study in this movement) as well as the works of John Money who was the founder of "gender theory" and his experiments on David Reimer whom he convinced to transition to a female, Reimer killed himself but John Money (a pedophile by the way as well) is still praised by the LGBT movement and Marxists today.

>no, i wouldn't mind transsexuals waving their dicks at my daughter, why would you even ask?

>>14372961
Despite being 2% of the population......

>>14372991
>a dense work of literature = brainlet
Well I can tell you never read it, but CoC doesn't talk about the LGBT community. CoC is better to understand how minority in-groups can most certainly have major reprocussions in the larger parts of society (e.g. I mentioned the Hart-Cellar Act of 1965, a radical altering of the social fabric of America which was largely brought to you by a very organized and dedicated minority in-group against a fractured out-group).

>>14372975
In countries in which they are persecuted so they cannot make strides

>>14373002
2% of the self-declared population. If it becomes more widely recognized and accepted that number will bump up

>>14372936
>these images would have been unimaginable just 10 years ago
Yes, they would have. 10 years ago was 2009.

>>14373006
>literature
Everyone on this site knows its a dogwhistle for actual anti-semitism.

>>14372615
How do we remove gays from the leftwing spotlight? I swear they're louder than any other voice on the left.

>>14373011
It's accepted and encouraged in almost every western nation.

>>14372975
maybe a decade ago I would have believed that, but now I see they were being justly 'persecuted' for good reasons.

>>14373018
If you're using phrases like "dogwhistle" you come from an ideological canon so you were always going to think whatever the canon told you to anyway. You didn't read it and probably never will, thus there is no point in starting to enter int oa circular argument of name-calling.

You couldn't even define anti-semitism, for example. So there is no point in continuing down this trail. I have mentioned some interesting points of reading reference to take into consideration, you call it a "dogwhistle" and I don't care. Thus, we have reached the end of this talk it seems.

>>14372993
Leftists supplanted religion with identity politics and the sexual revolution. But it doesn't hold up. The queer won't grant me eternal life or even forgive my sins. so why shouldn't we crucify that fucker for real?

>>14373024
There is no way they are being persecuted in the West. They simply push into extremes, e.g. this "drag queen book hour" which received due criticism is now a token sign of "oppression against the LGBTQ community". Manufactured oppression but for what purpose? That's the better question to ask yourself and meditate on.

>>14372975
literally where?

>>14373041
the blacks trannies(who are just fags) do get frequently beat up in ghettos

>>14373031
Pray tell, what are these "interesting points of reading" references

>>14372910
What if OP is Muslim?

>>14373051
Wtf i love black people now

>>14373051
Yes, blacks are particularly strong against the LGBT community and it is well documented.

>>14373057
Already listed you are baiting at this point. If you aren't going to read the thread don't shit post.

>>14373039
Hey, Engels hated the gays.

There was some book about the "Gay mafia" but idr the name. Anyone kniw what im talking about?

>>14373057
He already said what.

>>14373039
Liberals did this, and western leftism died when they did. Why do you think the political power base is turning so hard into this skid?

>>14372915
marxism has nothing to do with it, it is liberalism taken to its furthest extremes where 'being yourself' is exaggerated to the point that being freakish is seen as a positive

>>14373088
>marxism has nothing to do with it
That's an excessive statement to make given the well documented association with the LGBT community and Marxist ideology. I have already posted reference to the Communist Jewish organization called "The Jewish Worker" (e.g. provided a direct link to their twitter account) which associates the two quite strongly.

"Liberalism" was used as a foundation to spring board, of course, but I am skeptical the origination of individualism ever conceived of this path.

>>14373019
I don't see any reason to associate yourself with the left t in this day and age if you are not 100% about identity politics and social engineering. These themes have become so prominent to the point of eclipsing any real criticism of the global capitalist system. It is clear Working class white people, heterosexuals and anyone who isn't utterly in thrall to the sjw values of the lgbt cultural radicals has no place on the left. Marxism ultimately relied on the western tradition and the very same values these people are now trying to dismantle.

>>14373105
It is always interesting for me to consider that Marx spent so much time focused on his self-created "capitalism" in the form of critique he never envisioned the post-Marxist concept of contemporary times.

>>14373105
A common argument I see in fag circles hell even on this board that gays are good because they are top earners, really no point for working class to care about fag shit

>>14373125
Certainly those medications, surgeries, and psycho therapy sessions aren't something the average worker would be interested in let alone have the excess funds to support. I get the sense most of the LGBT crowd are nihilistic bored rich people.

>>14372852
>options
p*do shill

>>14373137
This quotation is by John Money, the founding thinker of "gender theory". Note the use of the word, "pathological", a concept the Freudians used quite often to dismiss critique against them.

>>14373039
>Leftists supplanted religion with identity politics and the sexual revolution
This was clear by your choice of signs you compared, I was looking for a deeper justification to an otherwise arbitrary comparison. I will note that your conflation of the sexual revolution and the rise of overt atheistic thought is unfounded, as the sexual revolution was closely linked to the rise of new age religiosity. I'm somewhat concerned that you are conceptualizing things in near pure simulacrum.

>even forgive my sins
Man forgives man for his transgressions against both himself and society every day.

In this last sentence, you are all but demanding man who holds left-leaning views assume the throne of God, in failing to do so, you must be convinced to not murder him. This is, quite honestly, one of the most grave heresies that I have ever heard in my life, and I know that was not your intent. The devil dwells in your heart and spurs you on this crusade. Seek peace, brother, do not let it build a barrier between you and the almighty.

>>14373119
>>14373125

'muh proletariat' has no content beyond alienation. all succesful 'marxist' movements relied on existing christian and communitarian traditions, which have been all but completely undermined by this point.Marx error was to believe the dissolution of traditional society would create a class of revolutionaries, instead it creates atomised powerless, individuals devoid of any tradition which can be a base for resistance against the technological system.

>>14373170
I would agree that this is a pretty spot-on analysis anon. Good thought.

>>14373155
>Man forgives man for his transgressions against both himself and society every day
He forgives in the same way you choose not to look at a stain on your or your brother's garment, but only God can wash out the stain

>>14373011
>If it becomes more widely recognized and accepted
literally how much more accepted can it possibly become?

>>14372615
They were wearing five layers of leggings and was in the process of picking up a book. It's clear even in the posture shown in the OP but /pol/ will /pol/. Fuck off.

>>14373214
You already know the answer.

>>14373196
God's grace is immanentized in all his creations, a gift given in love. Glory be.

>>14373214

Stop spamming this gay bullshit you fucking nigger

>>14373134
these are bourgeoisie trying to buy indulgences from the church of progressivism. At least the christian church promoted a sense of community and ensured a decent livelyhood for the faithful, the progressive church preaches division and glorifies hedonistic individualism. Have you noticed how smug these people are?

Look this is the headache we have to deal with in order to get more based things legalized. Trans are just the useful tool for getting the real good stuff accepted

>>14373250
not gonna lie, this is hot

>>14373275
>Look this is the headache we have to deal with in order to get more based things legalized. Trans are just the useful tool for getting the real good stuff accepted

ie. bestiality, incest, pedophilia

>>14372886
Not true. Watch minutes 15 through 20 of this. It's a great documentary series throughout if you've got the time, gender studies as a subject was abolished in Norwegian universities after it aired (though was reinstated later under a different name, AFAIK)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E577jhf25t4

>>14373283
This is disgusting. The only sorts of faggotry that should be promoted are extremely passable traps and effeminate twinks and there should be an age limit on them since twinks age like milk.

And lesbians are fine obviously.

>>14373275
kill yourself epstein scum

>>14372890
KYS faggot.

>>14373105
So what now huh? What are the proles to do?

>>14372975
>hundreds of lgbt people are either killed, denied jobs or housing because of who they are
Literally not in a single western country. Same countries where they control stuff like sexual education.

>>14372813
“Degenerates like you belong on a cross”

>>14373284
>>14373328
didnt think bait that obvious could work..........wow...........

>>14373284

Yes good fun stuff

>>14373440

It wasn't bait it was true patrician viewpoints

>>14373381
>le right wing death threat

>>14372975
And that's a good thing.
You have to deserve equal rights.

>>14373440
>bait
doing shill work for free
pathetic

>can you give me any literature that will validate my already preconceived beliefs for me? Pretty please?

No.

>>14373381
Lmao epic video game reference xd

>>14373743
can you give me any literature that will convince me of the humanity of these most noble and progressive of creatures and that they aren't screeching blue hair sjws who go after children?

>Im wondering if being gay is a choice, why are gays so intent on pushing gay propaganda on children?
Telling kids that it's okay if they are gay and that gay people are a fact of life is not pushing propaganda on them.

>Gender is a social construct, yet some people are born the wrong gender
Not contradictory, unless you take a really naive and essentialist view of things. Someone can be born with inborn traits and tendencies that don't fit to their societally ascribed gender roles. That's more what "being born the wrong gender" means.

>and there are infinite amounts of genders which are all equally valid and sacred
Nobody outside of Tumblr thinks this. Stop watching stupid YouTube videos.

>and yet masculinity is toxic.
The idea of "toxic masculinity" is that there are aspects or types of masculinity that are toxic. It doesn't mean "masculinity is toxic". Hardly anyone thinks masculinity is in itself toxic.

Probably just taking some bait, but people come out with the same talking points over and over again and they all require this really distorted picture of what people are actually talking about when it comes to gender and sexuality. You can all reply to me with your basedjaks now.

>>14373803
I could but you'd probably see a buzzword you don't like on the first page and then throw it into the trash without reading further

>>14373818
>Not contradictory, unless you take a really naive and essentialist view of things. Someone can be born with inborn traits and tendencies that don't fit to their societally ascribed gender roles. That's more what "being born the wrong gender" means.
you fucking what

If it's a socially ascribed gender role then they can just be non-conforming. What does that have to do with chopping off your dick? The only way the Trans thing makes sense is if there are female and male brains and theyre born with the wrong one

>>14373818
>Telling kids that it's okay if they are gay and that gay people are a fact of life is not pushing propaganda on them.
If this were the only thing happening nobody would be complaining.
>Someone can be born with inborn traits and tendencies that don't fit to their societally ascribed gender roles.
Gender roles don't exist anymore besides reproduction. It's only a matter of adulthood/civic or moral duty/labourhood.
Transshit is useless for society and is being used as a tool for degeneracy by epsteins clients.

>>14372615
There are two major factors:
1. the weakening of communities and social roles - people become confused and start to seek refuge in adopting LGBT identities
2. the quirky WASPy prudish attitudes towards sex (propagated through Americanization across the world) - LGBT culture is basically the other side of the coin

tl;dr - remove the Anglo (especially the American) and you remove LGBT

>>14373554
>filename
go back

>>14373825
How is that the only way it makes sense? You have two major groups people are divided into: men and women. Each of these groups has a set of roles, social norms, etc. typically associated with them. A trans person says "I would rather fill the social identity of the opposite gender from what I was born into because that is what I feel more comfortable as." It doesn't really matter whether they biologically have a pink or blue brain, the result is that we have people in society who want to fill the social role of the opposite gender and to be viewed that way. A trans woman doesn't want to be viewed as a non-gender conforming man, because in the eyes of society, that isn't the same thing as being viewed as a woman.

>>14373855
What else do you think is happening?

>>14373895
>A trans person says "I would rather
being a troon is a choice then

>>14373895
Did you mutilate your saggy balls yet?

>>14373911
I don't know, how much of a choice is it if the way you naturally feel makes you feel highly uncomfortable with the way people see you on a day-to-day basis. If, for whatever reason, people started seeing you as a girl and treating you like one all the time and you didn't like that, and you spoke up and said "Hey, I would really appreciate if you acknowledged that I am a guy and stop acting like I am a girl." on one level that's a choice that you made, but on another level it was shaped by the way society treats who you are.

>>14373925
I'm not trans, I just think from a utilitarian perspective it would make a lot of people's lives a lot better if we recognized trans people as the gender they identify as.

>>14373948
But how can you feel comfortable being a "girl" if gender is only a construct...?

>>14372832
Yes it is, crypto-pedo. Can't wait until the civil war so I can garrote your subspecies with piano wire.

>>14372852
>What's wrong with programming fresh meat from the cradle?
Pedos aren't human.

>>14373948
Suck it up. The world owns nothing to you.

>>14373895
That's not what trannies say though, they say they feel like they're in the wrong body intrinsically. If it were just social pressure then people would be arguing to let the trannies behave however they want without the genital mutilation

>>14372615
Go home, take a nap, get up and get a warm meal, and think about your life.

>>14373818
Gender theory was formulated by John Money who psychologically convinced a child to undergo gender transition, the child blew his brains out several decades later. John Money is also pro-pedophile. Money is celebrated as being the leader of the "gender theory' ideology.

>Telling kids that it's okay if they are gay and that gay people are a fact of life is not pushing propaganda on them.

This isn't what happens though, on the contrary, it is consistently rooted in bizarre hyper-sexualization. Also, I would need some first hand material to see that homosexual education in schools would give the full picture (e.g. all the health problems that will arise from it).

>The idea of "toxic masculinity" is that there are aspects or types of masculinity that are toxic

One could formulate a similar claim with femininity, yet both are necessary and their absence is impossible e.g. transgenders often take hyper-feminine roles (presumably out of fetishization) thus I remain completely unconvinced regarding any of the conversation about gender theory:

1. because its founder, John Money's "science" was rooted in freudian pseudotheories, sexual manipulation, and pedophilia.
2. "Gender roles" are shifted, consistently in definition.
e.g. "Societally ascribed gender roles" vs. your concept of "toxic masculinity".
By your logic there is no "masculinity" to begin with because "Gender roles" are socially created and thus it is now rendered entirely impossible to specify what "toxic masculinity" really is. Mostly, the tenets I have heard regarding "toxic masculinity" are not Masculine traits whatsoever.

>Distorted picture
It isn't that the picture is "distorted", it's that it is formless to prevent anyone from grappling with it and the narrative continually shifts to dodge critique. It's based of course in the tactics of Critical Theory and the Frankfurt School, I am well aware of that, but suggesting but perhaps you revealed more than you wanted too with this term, "distorted".

>>14373980
>let the trannies behave however they want without the genital mutilation
that's actually worse, like those men with ponytails playing in women sports or trannys trying to rape lesbians with their pathetic limp HRT dicks

>>14373980
>they say they feel like they're in the wrong body intrinsically.
This is a clear mental disorder that needs serious help, not designer drugs and surgical operations. Because fundamentally they will never achieve the delusion, it will always be completely out of reach. Hence, why that "dilate" meme is quite... potent. Because it is a fact of existence. Biology will simply crush their ideological rejection of their mental illness. Instead of getting treatment to help them feel confident in their bodies (something most healthy children struggle with in their teens but ultimately succeed in doing) they instead resort to bizarre sexual perversions, fetish culture, drugs, and the last resort: surgery - an irreversible act that achieves nothing but violently self-harms their sexual organ.

>>14372615
>138 replies
>ctrl+f "After the Ball"
>no result
Seriously? It's literally a prescriptive and proscriptive gay agenda and you see its results all around you today, possibly the most successful propaganda effort of all time.

>>14374002
>those men with ponytails playing in women sports
those ones are based though

>>14373948
But I actually AM a male, which is rooted in physical reality, so this hypothetical doesn't work.
People are treating me for what I actually am, which is how we treat everything. If you're a moron but you want to be treated like a genius, no one is going to treat you like a genius because you aren't one.
Why is "gender" any different?

>>14374032
Radically speaking: They view sex as a simple material action and therefore sex is something that should be opened up, universally. This is why the "gender theory" movement (rooted in Freudian psychoanalysis and Post-modernism BTW which has strong roots in pedophilia e.g. John Money whom I mentioned prior but also the famous Foucault among others) cannot escape the inevitable in promoting pedophilia because by the extension of their own logic the outcome remains the same. Yet, we see from their own existences (self-abuse, highly irrational, explosive, prone to outbursts, etc) it's a dead end street for them. I just feel bad for the children (I saw one study that suggested Autistic kids were being manipulated into this) who will wind up like Reimer (John Money's child patient) and kill themselves due to the psychological trauma inflicted upon them by pedophile / sexually deviant adults.

>>14373956
Because while it might not be something that inherently has to exist, gender is a social reality and people are going to classify you as one gender or another. You can recognize on an abstract level that gender is a meme while still feeling connected emotionally to aspects of your identity as a certain gender.

>>14373977
This is little more than a thought terminating cliche. Both positive and negative rights exist and if you think about the implications of this statement for more than a couple minutes you will quickly see how absurd it is.

>>14374001
Nobody is lauding John Money as a good guy anymore, I promise you. You people always bring up this meme. Most people talking about trans rights today probably don't even know who Money is.

> Also, I would need some first hand material to see that homosexual education in schools would give the full picture (e.g. all the health problems that will arise from it).
There are no health problems inherent to gay sex. Straight people have anal sex too if that's what you're getting at.

>One could formulate a similar claim with femininity, yet both are necessary and their absence is impossible
How did you arrive at the conclusion that masculinity and femininity will always exist and need to exist?

>>14374032
Yes, in the real world this is what happens to transgender people rather than cis people, but that's why it's a hypothetical. But entertain the thought for a second. How would you feel if every time you left the house and you weren't wearing girl clothes people looked at you weird and made comments about you?
>Why is "gender" any different?
Because a lot of what makes up gender is arbitrary traits and practices we've assigned to certain kinds of people, not inherent competence in an activity the way that intelligence is.

>>14374071
reply to this >>14373980

>>14374071
>How would you feel if every time you left the house and you weren't wearing girl clothes people looked at you weird and made comments about you?
How asinine. Why don't you have a talk with your own mother? That's why men are unable to become women.

/pol/-funding CIA niggers have finally indoctrinated /lit/. A sad day.

>>14374071
>gender is clothes
peak trans delusion

>>14374071
>There are no health problems inherent to gay sex
Except gay people are the way they are because of childhood trauma

>>14374109
I'm Muslim.

>>14374121
mashallah bro

>>14374121
Then why are you on CIA's leash?

>>14374071
>Most people talking about trans rights today probably don't even know who Money is.
But their entire world view is heavily influenced from his works. He created the concept of "gender theory" and all related works stem out of his beginnings, which by the way were most certainly linked heavily with child abuse and sexual deviancy. Thus, the entire foundation for the ideology of "gender theory" is rooted in sadistic perversion (and that's putting it lightly).

>There are no health problems inherent to gay sex
Debatable topic but probably there hasn't been enough research done. As for "Straight people have anal sex too" this is true but the reality is conceiving is still an option on the table. Homosexual relationships will never produce off spring, thus the whole act is rooted outside of biological perimeters and more rooted in the pleasure principle. Based on the actions and activities of homosexuals (particularly feminization) it is hard not to see it as an extreme form of fetish.

>How did you arrive at the conclusion that masculinity and femininity will always exist and need to exist?

What would be the "end" of masculinity and femininity? The only logical conclusion I can develop is a technological singularity which sheds biological bodies and fuses human mind with AI - but this is a bit too sci-fi and I'm not even sure if it's so desirable. One could make the protest that "masculinity" and "femininity" will be eroded due to concepts of Critical Theory, etc but I am largely unconvinced by this, particularly because we are living in the post-Critical Theory impact on society. And all we really have to show for it is growing resentment and high consumerism to fill the void that CT destroyed. Yet still, men and women remain different but this is of course linked to biology and brain differences as a forethought.

>How would you feel if every time you left the house and you weren't wearing girl clothes people looked at you weird and made comments about you?

What is the purpose of this hypothetical? He clearly stated he was a male, thus, wearing "girls" clothes would never evoke weird comments or glances. Rather, the opposite. We do this for many reasons and identification / attraction are the two major ones. Transgenders, as mentally unsound fetishists, have no justification in presenting as the opposite gender without consciously confessing that there is a regimented biological difference in male and female and that they are in fact a serious deviation from the norm. Thus, this should be a point of contemplation for them, but instead society tells them to seek out drugs and medical treatments (including serious genital mutilation) as a solution.

>>14374109
I think what happened was the push to read the "Classics" (e.g. the "Start with the Greeks" thing) led people to realize they can reject Marxism (which was being heavily promoted here unchecked). Now, that the whole Marxist structure caved in and collapsed, those still clinging onto that wave that's run its course and flooded onto the shore only to be soaked up by the sand are angry and lost about it. No matter, you won't get banned here for it. I don't see a problem here.

>>14374146
You have no idea what you talk about, so why are you opening your mouth?

men are active women are reactive
trans women are men without the power to be active

>>14374151
You only prove me right by failing to say anything worthwhile and instead resort to the usual "pilpul" derailment tactics.

>>14374109
>/pol/-funding CIA niggers
trans rights am I right?

>>14374125
Not conforming to liberal views of transgenderism doesn't necessarily mean being /pol/.

>>14374156
People who operate base their understanding of the world on conspiracy theories are not worth persuading with words. Were I to be a loudmouthed youtuber, you would have listened to me. I would have given you credible statistics and infographics.

>>14374161
Doing this for free for your billionaire fascist overlords am I right?

hontrapoints on this thread

>>14374181
billionaires and Epstein's clients promote the normalization of p*do shit by shilling transgender stuff on weak people
how do you sleep at night knowing you help them hurt children?

>>14374181
Islam isn't "billionaire fascist overlords".

>>14374173
>some leftist nutjob derails the whole thread
pilpul shill

>>14374208
Sure it isn't, just ask Saudis :)

>>14374081
I've already responded to that talking point in other things that I said.

>>14374100
My mom is supportive of trans people. So whether you can give birth or not is one context in which what set of genitals matters. Do most people need to know that information in other contexts?

>>14374120
Got a source on that one buddy?

>>14374126
>But their entire world view is heavily influenced from his works. He created the concept of "gender theory" and all related works stem out of his beginnings, which by the way were most certainly linked heavily with child abuse and sexual deviancy. Thus, the entire foundation for the ideology of "gender theory" is rooted in sadistic perversion (and that's putting it lightly).
Yeah Freud invented modern psychology and he believed a lot of retarded shit too. These fields have refined their understanding of matters over the course of the past several decades.

>Debatable topic but probably there hasn't been enough research done. As for "Straight people have anal sex too" this is true but the reality is conceiving is still an option on the table. Homosexual relationships will never produce off spring, thus the whole act is rooted outside of biological perimeters and more rooted in the pleasure principle. Based on the actions and activities of homosexuals (particularly feminization) it is hard not to see it as an extreme form of fetish.
This is a non-sequitur. Why does it matter if homosexual sex can't result in reproduction, or it's only done for pleasure or what have you? Doesn't have anything to do with the previous point.

>One could make the protest that "masculinity" and "femininity" will be eroded due to concepts of Critical Theory, etc but I am largely unconvinced by this, particularly because we are living in the post-Critical Theory impact on society. And all we really have to show for it is growing resentment and high consumerism to fill the void that CT destroyed.
Where do you people get the idea that some random intellectuals have literally destroyed Western Civilization? Most leftists haven't even read the Frankfurt School people. They weren't that influential ,and the things they said were not nearly as radical as you think.

>What is the purpose of this hypothetical? He clearly stated he was a male, thus, wearing "girls" clothes would never evoke weird comments or glances. Rather, the opposite. We do this for many reasons and identification / attraction are the two major...
The point was to perhaps inspire a grain of empathy, not for people to autistically pull apart why a hypothetical scenario doesn't make sense in reality.

>>14374211
Plenty of people have been cured from LGBT (Alhamdulillah) without any Saudi influence. Only by the guidance of God.

>>14374219
>gender is clothing
>gender is performative
eat shit

>>14374219
>I've already responded to that talking point in other things that I said.
No you haven't. They claim to be literally in the wrong biological body. You've just talked about gender as a social role.

>>14374227
They really did you hard

>>14374240
Why so islamophobic? Fooled by western "values"?

>>14374253
I'm retardophobic

>>14374219
>Yeah Freud invented modern psychology
They crux of the matter is "modern" not the sole founder of psychology, whereas John Money was the founder of Gender Theory. Gender theory is of course linked with John Money's experiments on Reimer (who killed himself) and I would need to see the data showing that John Money is "discounted" by Gender theory promoters.
>refined their understanding
But from the works of John Money I don't see where the "understanding" changed, the tactics on children are still very much the same (E.g. there are parents feeding their children HRT's, etc).

>or it's only done for pleasure or what have you?
I am not suggesting heterosexual pairings do not have sex "for pleasure" but that the whole fundamental point of the pairing is that the option of offspring remains open and serious heterosexual relationships evolve into having children. In the Western tradition, this is a monogamous pairing. Regardless of this slight backdrop, my point lies in the fact that homosexual relationships do not ever get the benefit of reproduction, and will always revolve solely around pleasure. Presumably, this is why the LGBT community is ripe with fetishists (e.g. their homosexual rallies often involve naked men and women, sexual public acts, etc).

>Where do you people get the idea that some random intellectuals have literally destroyed Western Civilization?
It was not "random intellectuals" nor was it very directed. Rather, there is a clear lineage of dissolution as political motive disguised as "science" (e.g. manifested in the contemporary "cult of science" we have today, which is hardly scientific whatsoever). One could use many examples, but I think Boasian Anthropology is a good place to start particularly because of its objectives and consequences in its campaign.

>Most leftists haven't even read the Frankfurt School people
Potentially, but their politics are heavily based in these principles. Not being aware of the root of your views is a dangerous game, who knows how many may start to raise questions once they fundamentally realize what their viewpoints truly are and why they were pushed so violently onto the Western stage.
>They weren't that influential
"Repressive tolerance" is THE definition of contemporary Leftism. The entire New Left's mantra could be something out of Marcuse without exception.
>"...were not nearly as radical as you think."
I am fully aware of these authors and yes, they were not only radical but politically self-conscious and motivated, highly organized and very in-group orientated and incredibly hostile to out groups. The Frankfurt School was just one main example I use because of their influence on the contemporary Left. How could you deny this? It's almost like self-deception.

>The point was to perhaps inspire a grain of empathy
"Empathy" is a poor tool to use because you cannot control its outcome.

>>14374263
Very disrespectful to speak of my religion like that, your behavior is welcome on /pol/.

>>14374219
e.g. Your concept in this scenario of "empathy" was deeply connected with the concept that the delusion should be allowed to continue rather than confront the fact its a delusion.

Whereas my empathy lies in the fact that this individual is not confronting their delusion and others, often sexual deviants and pedophiles (and/or ideologically linked to these types and promoting their viewpoints consciously or unconsciously) are urging them on to continue the delusion. This typically ends in a tragedy.

>>14374281
If your religion supports fascist values it deserves annihilation

>>14374289
>fascist values
Islam predates Fascism. Your pseudo-Marxism is embarrassing for everyone present.

>>14374289
Nothing fascist about following God's commands, liberal.

>>14372623
In what way?

>>14372852
>whats wrong showing a degenerate pedophile as the norm for children

>>14374289
If the lgbt community supports pedophilia, then they deserve annihilation

>>14374305
Behind the vener of Foucault is a pedophile. He signed an agreement in 1977 to decriminalize consensual relations between adults and children. Most of his work is for the purpose of disillusion. It all snowballs from there.

>>14374219
Why should i feel empathy for my ideological enemies? These people always hide behind double standards, tribalism and identity politics for me but not for thee. make no mistake, these people will always hate you for being white and straight they will always seek to subvert the common norms of decency. The mistake of leftism is trying to fool us into thinking they are people just like you and me and not inherently deranged.

>>14374335
This is beyond delusion

>>14374357
>it is normal people who are delusional, not the freaks shoving their dicks in childrens faces!

>>14374387
Yes, people who are willing to kill other people for doing something physically harmless (albeit """morally"""" questionable) are delusional

>>14374335
I ask again, how do we disassociate faggotry with the left? I'll tolerate you faggots, but I don't want to promote your degeneracy.

>>14372813
You people are literally fucking demonic

>>14374402
This is delusional actually because you are suggesting repressive tolerance. We must accept nonviolent engagement against our way of life because it's nonviolent. This is pure propaganda

>>14374433
And yet you're the one full of sin and hatred. You're going to hell, not them

>>14374402
What is wrong with killing you, from a moral perspective?

>>14374498
They aren't full of hate? Really...?

>>14374469
The promotion of trans rights (and all rights for that matter) serves as a politically strategic expedient for the elite. It provides a means for them to destabilise intermediary (i.e. competing) power structures (organised religion, "small' business, the family etc; broadly, "middle" conservatives and traditionalists) and expand and centralise their own power (rights must be enforced, and dissenters must be crushed; these actions necessitate the establishment of institutions and the filling of them with bureaucrats), all while remaining comfortably -- as perceived by the polis -- within the liberal ethical paradigm; one that (supposedly) forbids such acts of subversive political maneuvering.

>>14372615
I still can't wrap my head around the normalization of homosexuality, let alone the gender business. Girls are girls and boys are boys. If a little girl enjoys typical boys' activities (soccer, action figures or whatever), that does by no means imply she is some kind of a mistake of the nature, a man imprisoned inside a woman's body - such a girl is just a tomboy.

The bottom line is that if you cannot clearly distinguish between male and female, and if you even for a moment take the "gender is a social construct and there are 87474747 of them" bullshit seriously, you are irredeemably brainwashed.

And what literature is there to help one cope with living among the lobotomized masses? I have no idea.

>>14372615
lmao the people that are never going to have children are the ones most upset about this

Once you accept you never have to raise kids you can laugh at this stuff

Curious how no one on /lit/ cares about the catholic church covering up the mass raping of children by priests or old men wagging their dicks in front of kids in pool changing rooms yet the moment a tranny whips it out in a Minnesota library there's suddenly a problem

>>14372615
brave new world, chapter 3

drag queens aren't lgbt, like this is a pretty essential point any lgbt person could update you on

for such a bunch of smart well-read cultured ppl, not getting that's a pretty major oversight

(most are just straight men doing dress up)

>>14374891
the difference is that the point of Catholicism isnt child rape--that is basically a post Vatican II Council and the first big problems started to pop up in the 60s, whereas the point of gender ideology and sexual degeneracy has always been to dissolve all restrictions on sexual behavior other than those directly involving 'the rational interests and sexual desires of individuals' in a vacuum... but you already knew that, didn't you kike

>>14374942
rent free

>>14372615
People aren’t born the wrong gender, they’re assigned the wrong gender.

>>14374951
jew, whore, pseud or all of the above

people on this board really like to try and use as many long/obscure words as they can to sound smart, huh.

>>14374962
not costing them a cent

>>14374958
assigned the wrong gender by god, yes that's what people mean

>>14374611
this dude thinks he can 100% of the time guess someone's sex at birth and is in strict denial that anyone intersex exists and 'can't wrap his head around the normalisation of homosexuality' and thinks it's other ppl who are brainwashed

>>14372668
The drag queen was wearing flesh colored leggings for whatever brilliant reason. It was the perfect set up.

>>14373105
are the majority of lgbt values all that radical? The core of the agenda is social acceptance. Many lgbt people might seem, loud, obnoxious and intolerant, but... that seems fairly reasonable of an oppressed group.
>they're not oppressed
a lot of society fucking hates gay people. This board at large hates gay people. Don't be dumb.

>>14374982
they do it to hide leg hair

>>14374980
>intersex
so incredibly rare that it's ridiculous to treat them as the norm

>>14374984
do you think there is a chance a society has ever had legitimate reasons to hold intolerant attitudes toward 'lgbt' people

>>14374984
>Many lgbt people might seem, loud, obnoxious and intolerant, but... that seems fairly reasonable of an oppressed group.
Is it? If society isn't stopping these people from being loud and obnoxious, it doesn't sound like they're being particularly oppressed.

>>14374994
Nope. If you hate lgbt people at large because you've seen some latex wearing freak on tv at a parade holding a dildo, you're retarded. That sort of shit is why a lot of people are intolerant of lgbt groups.
>they keep shoving their agenda down our throats!!
Then of course there's hatred rooted in religious beliefs. Also very dumb.

>>14374942
>t-they didn't mean to rape those unripe boipuccis and p-protect sex offenders! S-sodomy is degenerate between consenting adults!!!

>>14375002
So because they're not being stopped in being vocal, they're not oppressed? Oppression isn't just a generic case of the state taking total control and intervening to silence/control a group of people.
I think you'd be hard pressed to say that socially, lgbt people aren't to a degree, hated/condemned.

>>14374992
see i'd agree with you even though 1.7% isn't rare at all (it's p similar to the number of ppl with green eyes) (although i know you'll dispute that figure based on nothing but your personal experience ie 'why haven't i ever met one then!') but i've got a feeling that when you say 'shouldn't be treated as the norm' you mean 'shouldn't be given any consideration and if our medical systems look past them in ways that end uo killing, well their statistical significance is so tiny that the convenience is worth it' - or what else could you mean by 'shouldn't be treated as the norm?'

>>14375018
perhaps today 'oppressed' isn't the right term, they're just not socially equal.

>>14375026
*up killing them

soz posting on phone

>>14374984
these people act like finding them unpleasant or even disagreeing with them is itself a crime.

>>14374992
while it might be unrealistic to expect society to treat intersex exactly as they treat the rest of the population, there can't really be much issue in at least making an effort to include these sorts of groups and not view them as being some kind of perversion.

>>14375027
but that's the current definition of oppressed

you don't have permission to change that definition or assume your esoteric usage of the word will be understood, however much you feel that usage is correct

>>14372830
I can at least grasp why letting a cross dresser read to your kids is acceptable (vague liberal ideas of broadening horizons), but why is that person also dress like a monster? They have horns. Kids are generally upset by monsters.

>>14373879
Here to stay

>>14374992
Even if we treat intersex as the norm it doesn't work, people on both sides of the isle don't understand intersexuality, they really really don't have a mixture of feminine and masculine features like the media would have you believe, they look 99% either way.

>>14375050
wtf

kids love monsters

>>14375012
hate to break this to you but you're an illiterate fag. And I'm not Catholic either

>>14375042
I think it's definitely true that some vocal lgbt members are, like I said, obnoxious. This extends generally to the radical side of the 'social' left, unfortunately. But I don't think that should mean lgbt people in general should be viewed in a negative light by society. I dunno, it just seems a bit ridiculous to group them all as being that way, unless you really think that every gay person you've ever and will ever encounter is as annoying/insufferable.

>>14375056
>isle
but okay, then explain how we should see intersex people
who are they and what do they want

>>14375049
Okay, well by oppressed, what I suppose more meant what >>14375027 suggested. And so my comment becomes, that it is not so radical for a socially unequal group to want to be seen or treated as equal.

>>14375071
>what I suppose more meant what
*I guess I meant what

>>14375056
yeah they usually choose one or another presentation, but interestingly they're much less likely than the general pop to choose based on what would be easiest to pass as, as a lot of trans men/women are intersex

(ie most have binary gender identities)

>>14375069
man they're just people

trans and gay and intersex people don't exist through ideology

'who are people with green eyes and what do they want'

>>14375086
>trans don't exist through ideology
Correct, they exist through anime.

>>14375026
1.7% isn't an accurate figure, the articles that source that figure say "may" and note that such variations that fall under such a broad umbrella might not be apparent until much later in life.
And even those who are accurately categorized as suffering from one of these disorders, there are obviously those who are far more like a man than a woman and vice versa.
When I say "treated as the norm" I simply mean just that, they should be looked at as special, individual cases. Take as ane example two random people that are labeled as intersex. They could be suffering from radically different disorders, Klinefelter's is completely different from vaginal atresia.

>>14375045
I find nothing wrong with treating people equally, and I don't know anyone who would view a baby with a developmental disorder as "some kind of perversion."

The same retards who think sex and species are not social constructs but actual demarcations in nature are the ones who think the positive integers are somehow represented in reality and more real than imaginary numbers.

They're all social constructs. The only difference is in how useful they are.

>>14375086
do you really believe that? I think that there can be no non-hegemonic sexual paradigm. Heteronormativity is inherently antagonistic to gender ideology and the 'queer', and the normalization of queerness and gender ideology is inherently antagonistic to traditional sexuality and gender. if this isn't true--then why? alternately, if you think that I am accurately describing the situation, why is it a good thing if heteronormativity is destroyed other than muh cummies and thigh highs

>>14375115
is that what you tell your gay lover when you fuck him in the ass?
"you'll get pregnant, don't worry, it's all a social construct"

>>14375100
are you the author of this post?

>I still can't wrap my head around the normalization of homosexuality, let alone the gender business. Girls are girls and boys are boys. If a little girl enjoys typical boys' activities (soccer, action figures or whatever), that does by no means imply she is some kind of a mistake of the nature, a man imprisoned inside a woman's body - such a girl is just a tomboy.

>The bottom line is that if you cannot clearly distinguish between male and female, and if you even for a moment take the "gender is a social construct and there are 87474747 of them" bullshit seriously, you are irredeemably brainwashed.

>And what literature is there to help one cope with living among the lobotomized masses? I have no idea.

if you are and you can't see the inconsistencies between a lot of what you've said and that statement, then this is as far as i care to go with you, at this point it's on you to figure it out

>>14375122
No I am not, but I agree with the general sentiment.

>>14375130
you think gender dysphoria can be reasonably characterised as 'a little girl enjoying typical boy activities'?

>>14375136
>gender dysphoria
I think that's a pretty problematic phrase nowadays, practically a slur in the trans community.

>>14375119
That's not how social constructs work. This isn't how language works.

kys tranny

i'll drop this recommended reading for now, maybe come back in a bit

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/

>>14372615
Lmao at how well this post took off. We are the LGBT narrative is crumbling under increasing scrutiny from heterosexual. As they lose their favor with mainstream normie culture, we will a massive slide back towards where the faggots belong: back in the fucking closets.

Another example of my superior curse-breaking spells demolishing what little the Left has to stand on. The right continues its march towards final cultural domination. We are winning the war. The Kali Yuga ends. The Black Sun rises.

>>14375141
you:
"retards who think sex and species are not social constructs"
also you:
"yes you can impregnate a man, "man" is a social construct"
yet again you:
"I'm a closet tranny"
take your own advice

>>14375140
lol

are u speaking for the trans community?

some nonbinaries dislike the association of dysphoria to trans identity, but for the most part the huge majority of trans men and women consider it an important requisite - it's just genuine trans people don't get much of a voice, even/especially on trans issues

if you think sucking this is gay you're a fag

>>14375144
this dude believes in magic but changing sex? that's too much

>>14375150
Being a social construct doesn't give you a womb tranny. How does it feel being illiterate on top of being mentally ill?

>>14375141
and it remains a required diagnosis (as far as i'm aware, everywhere) for hormone treatment

>>14375150
>"yes you can impregnate a man, "man" is a social construct"

Do you come from some primitive ape like society where quotations don't exist? Is this your first time using one redditor?

>>14375151
Critique of the modern LGBT movement has little to nothing to do with people who are actually suffering from various disorders, and everything to do with a very vocal minority that is simultaneously oppressed, prominently represented in media, and regularly have had huge marches and parades in major cities funded by megacorporations.

>>14375157
For those within the blood, no explanation is necessary; those outside the blood, no explanation will suffice.

>>14375160
calling a womb a social construct doesn't magically make it go away, as much as you try to redefine the words

>>14375172
your critique perhaps

but you're not in as good company as you might think

if you consider blatant lies from the media especially in the uk, or perhaps the trans panic defence being law across most of the usa (and the likelihood that the majority of many states would vote to keep it that way) you'll recognise you're not in the company of good faith actors and, also, you might reconsider how you're expending your energy: if the greater part of the criticism is motivated by violent intent (as it is), then it's probably not the best moment to be giving theoretical cover to that criticism

you're actually a lot more likelu to find sympathy and common values among the 'genuinely suffering' ie by presenting yourself as an advocate for the lgbt people who are being ignored

>>14375176
I like how you leftists hide behind the words 'social construct' like it's an actual physical shield. It's a trite truism because it means nothing since everything is a social construct. Words are a social construct.

>>14375195
> if the greater part of the criticism is motivated by violent intent (as it is),
Really? You think that all the people who don't want people with dicks using the women's restroom are violent?
Are you being genuine or are you just reading the extreme comments that are posted on this website?
Furthermore, you think I'm expending any appreciable amount of energy on this subject?

>>14375204
i tell you that being a woman is not a social construct, that it is based on biology, and you call me a lefty?

>>14375204
it just means it's an imperfect category and, in the case of a lot of sex and gender categories, one that was developed with limited information

for example: pachyderm is a social construct

you: 'BUT ELEPHANTS AND RHINOS EXIST WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!'

the above doesn't change the fact that pachyderm is an unhelpful category that intersects with too many others and clouds our perception of its subcategories

the man/woman binary is a social construct, one that is imperfect and due further complication, because it was developed with limited information

i look forward to reading more replies from which the spittle flying against your screen is audible

>>14375209
people who don't want trans women to use the women's restroom ie to use men's restroom, putting them at great danger for the sake of their convenience and their neurotic hangups, are obviously implicit in violence and indeed, for the most part, are pleased by the thought of trans women being assaulted in the men's (which the men will be legally allowed to do, if the laws the majority advocate for are implemented/sustained)

so yes

>>14375232
>are pleased by the thought of trans women being assaulted in the men's (which the men will be legally allowed to do, if the laws the majority advocate for are implemented/sustained)
You sound paranoid. What laws in particular are you referring to here?
I don't think anyone is advocating for any law that would make it legal to assault someone for using the proper restroom.

>>14375240
trans panic defence has recent legal precedent in the usa a for defending murderers even after the fact of them having sex with trans women/being in direct contact with their genitals long before the murder

i could run an experiment and post an article covering one of those incidents to see how many people are sympathetic with the murderers regardless

in states where trans panic is active law it's a safe bet the majority would be

>>14375221
>the man/woman binary is a social construct, one that is imperfect and due further complication, because it was developed with limited information
You are a solid example of the contemporary broken human being, a wretched form of life molded by relentless propaganda.


Lad, the grim reality of your situation is that you struggle to tell men and women apart because you have been lobotomized. Girls are girls and boys are boys. Snap out of it for your own good.

>>14375253
Are you saying that someone has been legally acquitted for murder because the victim was trans?
Link the case, I don't believe you.
>i could run an experiment
Okay, but until you do, you're judging a lot of people based on your own ridiculous personal biases without any real evidence to justify significant fear.

>>14375259
literally just repeating 'but rhinos are rhinos' and not comprehending any thing

>>14374071
There are arbitrary traits but gender is generally a reinforcement of a biological reality using societal norms and the like. Trannies want to transgress these norms while also expecting to be accepted by a society that holds to those norms because they know their feelings of authenticity are ultimately not derived from their personal feelings of dysphoria but from society's acceptance. This, they have to try and change society so that they are accepted

>>14375320
It is very sad to see a person, presumably above the age of 20, to waste his time and use his intelligence as a vehicle for the rationalization of lies.

This is an anonymous board and my intention is not to inflate my own ego by trying to either argue with you or humiliate you. The reason I am saying what I am saying is because it is the truth, and out of sheer philanthropy I am urging you to wake up. Women are women and men and men. The physical differences simply translate into mental differences and there is no room for discussion. Nobody should be confused about such trivial truths.

>>14374263
How do you live with yourself?

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/

Camille Paglia is SJW/Feminism/LGBT redpill.

>>14372789

i swear skallas is everywhere. i really can't escape him. at night I hear rats scuffling around in the walls and i swear amidst the scratching i hear whispered... lindy... lindy...

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