/lit/ - Literature

>>14366197
>hey guys, what if we made things worse faster?
I'm not surprised this movement is made up of disillusioned Marxists.

>>14366197
An actual case of fashionable nonsense. Thankfully its appeal is quickly fading; accelerating straight into the garbage bin.

>>14366234
>>14366247
stop fucking derailing my threads you fucking reactoids

Strangely potent

>>14366197
>links to redd*t
Yeah , just fuck off back to redd*t faggot

>>14366197
Accelerationism was cool until trannies took it over; now its just another political tool of the globohomo fag nigger agenda. Pass.

>>14366771
It was never cool. And it was trannie from the beginning.

>>14366771
Thread over.

>>14366771
thank u for the seceded territory. now we can all jerk each other's estrogen atrophied cocks without having reactoids disturb us

>>14366197
>accelerationism
the worst kind of autism

>>14366807
His autism
Dilated

>>14366771
this and checked. and they wonder why they attract msm tier brainlets when theyre of the same lot. flash news, its because youre also a shallow brainlet.>>14366197

>>14366197
So what is your position then? You want to collapse the system but for what will you push then? What follows after?

Long live the Hyperkantian Infranexus of the Neoabsolute!

>>14366822
Helicopter HRT

>>14366822
Accelerationism is not a political project.
Accelerationism is not a movement.
Accelerationism is a transcendental theory of Capital, applied hyperkantianism based on poememenon dialectical post-shenanigans. Read Xenogothic's post.

>>14366860
What do you do for a living? Have you ever been diagnosed with autism or other disorder?

>>14366197
the only valid acc generals are those certified by girardfag see ya

>>14366860
The real a/acc sonic booms were acc all along.

>>14366895
> why yes I am a neotwitterite follower of the worst poster on /lit/ even after he left

None of the accel troomers show their faces because the entire LARP would collapse once we see those ridiculous manly jaws, the ridicule would be overwhelming and nobody would be able to take any of it seriously. They obviously know this

i'm confused how a bunch of neets and trannies who spend all day on discord are supposed to be a political movement

old nrx had adherents (or at least interested parties) among people with actual societal capital

>>14366197
what is the point of this mayhem TwT

>>14366197
give me twitter accelerationisits to follow. I don't care which brand I just want to get into the bubble.

You will never be a real woman

>>14366197
these threads show how gullible and uneducated the average brain/lit/ is.
Accelerationalism has nothing to do with trannies you memespouting retards, stop deriving all your "knowledge" from baseless claims on 4chan you sub 80 IQ niggers.

>>14366197
also next time don't link to r*ddit, why not just copy the contents into your OP.

>>14367513
you have to go back to the bbc/sissy /gif/ thread

>>14366992
>people with actual societal capital
you deserve one another

>>14367513
Wow, your spamming of personality cultism for an antihumanist philosophy has convinced me.

>>14366197
Tell me anon. Are you left-accel or right-accel? Land is right-accel. What about Nyx? What about Reza Negarestani? Why would left-accels want to associate with right-accels? Why would right-accels want to associate with left-accels? This is important.

>>14366913
>why yes im making a general called accelerationism and then suggesting fanged noumena how could you tell my iq is below 100?

>>14367587
nono, I'm u/acc. That means you do HRT, and the more HRT you do the more you accelerate.

>>14367587
This is precisely why this thread is retarded as fuck.

>>14367600
In seriousness, what the fuck does making everyone that already wants to be a girl into a girl accomplish with respects to the acceleration of the machine? Isn't that what both right-accels and left-accels care about? You need to go beyond just a cyber-gothic glitch art intertextual trans rights aesthetic. I'm not hating on you. I'm just saying that is a big nothing on its own. It's not a movement and just an aesthetic. Tell me about xenofeminism or something. Be patient I'm probably not an accel genius like you, just an outside observer.

>>14367604
Explain.

>>14367587
Capital is sentient, it has taken control of my body, I'm its meat-host. Every sissy is Capital's meat-host, this is why we can cum hands free, the process does it for us. Accelerationism is something that happens to you.

R/acc isn't real.

>>14367649
>R/acc isn't real.
u/acc or bust
and in case of u/acc bust as well

I miss the g/acc gens.

Someone explain this r/acc u/acc g/acc shit, what is it some reddit crap for real? Guess I'll google but you guys have at it, it helps too.

>>14367804
Googling won't help. Accelism has an exoteric and esoteric facet. Exoterically it is a Kantian account of Capital. Esoterically it is a sissification death-cult, reading Fanged Noumena is equivalent to casting a spell on yourself trapping you in sissification machinic runaway, also known as an autogynephilic singularity.

Post Nyx fat legs

>>14367896
This. One has to reread the esoteric-sided posts in this thread multiple times to understand all of the ritualistic symbolism inherent in any accelerated discussion.

>>14367948
>>14367896
sounds really fuckin autistic and gay

>>14367910

>>14367896
lol

>>14367804
this has nothing to do with reddit,
l/acc is left acc
r/acc right acc
g/acc gender acc
the distinction between r and l acc is retarded tho and g/acc is why everyone pretends all off accelerationalism has to do with trannies

>>14367896
kek

You absolute mongoloids would need to be thrown into a chronically violent society like those in the Middle East to suffer personally the actual consequences of what your pseud faggy ideology would actually bring.

What is the quickest and most straightforward way to prove that capital is transcendental? I'm writing a paper/manifesto (it refutes all sorts of nigger-tier garbage) and this is the only thing my argument depends on.

>>14368006
We recommend stimulating your prostate with a vibrator to the sound of phurpa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK5uG2fN6HE

>>14368046
>stimulating your prostate
Esoterically or exoterically? Also, what if she doesn't have one?

>>14367988
>kek
*keks in your mouth*
Epic, breh...

>>14368050
FtM's are immune to the process (spell). Don't believe me? Name one FtM accelerationist.

Their spergs raised on the internet. In more decelerated times they would have been drafted to the front lines as meatshields to protect worthwhile men. Each self important soul ended in seconds by a bullet.

>>14367954
I bet that is a common feeling for you.

It’s quite curious that you literally have to LIE to try to steer people away from becoming HIV positive... Almost like you’ve been paid to do so...

>>14366197
>New to accelerationism?
Yes. I was wondering. What is the Landian perspective on cunny?

>>14367627
>t. Nick Land assmad that his movement became gay

>>14367896
>Accelism has an exoteric and esoteric facet.
how does one get initiated into the esoteric facet? please try to avoid saying any crass nonsense as a response to this.

>>14368129
>became
LOL

>>14368138
It was always lame, but now it's out-and-out homosexual. All political and philosophical beliefs are sexually oriented and these ones are now gay

>>14368152
>All political and philosophical beliefs are sexually oriented
Hmm... So what would the most hardcore heterosexual political stance?

>>14368166
Guénonic Islamism.

>>14368178
retroatively refuted

please accelerationists do not be intimidated or put off in any way by the trolls that flood these threads, they are samefagging as you can check the numbers yourself. Please do participate and ignore the reactoids

>>14368194
Epiiiic! I too am a meta twitter poster who has read Deleuze [insert emoji here]!!

>>14366197
Accelerating into the Abyss, more like

how will they ever recover

>>14366197
Literally picture related: the ideology.

>>14368237
Boy do I feel stupid now. Okay, second try.
>>14366197
Literally picture related: the ideology.

>>14368226
>>14368233
>Bryce "Post-Ideologue" Laliberte

wait I just read an article two weeks ago saying accelerationism was right wing nazis, now its left wing transes????

>>14368246
>retroactively refuting yourself
based

>>14368307
news flash: the left and right are both retarded

>Fanged Noumena? More like FAG Noumena.
sage this shit ass thread everyone.

>>14368313
okay. which one is accelerationists though

>>14367649
>>14367988
>>14368313
Can you guys make your politics clear? Don't just say left/right sucks like as if you could be apolitical. Just answer questions on stances. Don't just say you don't care, that usually just defaults to some kind of rightism anyway. So for example, thoughts on leftist and rightist identity politics? Thoughts on whether it's good to dismantle capitalism to institute socialist ownership of means of production, or better to amplify capitalist excesses indefinitely? Thanks for defining the different accel tribes but now I want to know why I should really think that the trans accelerationism stuff isn't just an edgy aesthetic. It really looks that way unless you stand on solid ground with your politics. Accelerating transgender identity feels like a non-starter, like said before, people who want to become girls will become girls, what does accelerationism really add to that? What does that actually do to the societal machine? What aims do you people really have that aren't just "Let's have a cool aesthetic"? I'm being serious.

>>14368326
Didnt land say some shit about all accel being right wing because its pro-capital, and that regardless of right and left internal divide accel will always be anti-leftist (as leftists want a world without capital).

But i don't know anything except that I was placed kn this earth to destroy the creator and thus all of their whorshippers

>>14368433
what does op's pic mean then

>>14368530
It means that its impossible to escape nxy and her cult, and that she nor they will take responsibility for the increasingly directionless hellrazing that's being participated in.

>>14367139
Xenogothic
Severian
NyxLand

>>14368307
>wait I just read an article two weeks ago saying accelerationism was right wing nazis, now its left wing transes????

Accelerationism is a strange circus, as it is the precise point where the present System of the World shits itself.

>>14366771
Stay mad friend.

>>14366771
Decadent, deafeatist faggotry will never be cool.

I just don't get it, i just do not. Why would you chop your dick off or pump yourself full of estrogen, why?????

>>14368623
>xeno
>cyber
>gothic
Accels love these three words a lot. What are some other ones?

>>14368896
Because being a cute girl owns. Just try estrogen once anon.

Like CCRU prose, the conferences could be challenging for non-initiates. Virtual Futures 96 was advertised as “an anti-disciplinary event” and “a conference in the post-humanities”. One session involved Nick Land “lying on the ground, croaking into a mic”, recalls Robin Mackay, while Mackay played jungle records in the background. “Some people were really appalled by it. They wanted a standard talk. One person in the audience stood up, and said, ‘Some of us are still Marxists, you know.’ And walked out.”

>>14368887
Cool is a calm detachment from societal decay. Cool has litterally always been decadent defeatist faggotry.

>>14368915
But you're not a cute girl, nor is technology advanced enough to make you one, you just end up mutilating yourself.

>>14368915
You can be a cute girl if you'd like, but why can't people be cute boys without being seen as girls or feminine? Can you accelerate and destroy those gender roles and norms and constructs instead?

>>14368601
>its impossible to escape nxy and her cult
bro just delete your twitter

>>14368927
Cope

>>14368937
>Cope
Nigga this doesn't affect me, you're the one killing yourself, i just do not get why?

>>14368601
Poor acceleration's little wings were clipped by trannies, now it can't accelerate anymore :c

>>14368934
challenge accepted

>>14366197
The trend is over, unless girardfag is coming back to this kind of threads which is highly unlikely.

>>14368949
>implying im not a tranny

>>14368946
It's not "killing myself", I'm far happier now transitioning than I was pre-transition. I'm not the angry incel here obsessed with trannies for some reason.

>>14368968
Friend, you have done irreversible harm to your body, what's there to be happy about?

>>14368959
Imagine being supposedly an accelerationist and thinking that acceleration is under any risk from people shitposting online. The level of pseudery in this thread. If you don't like it maybe you should start a blog or something and try to compete with tendencies you don't like instead of whining on /lit/ like all the butthurt incel moids here.

>>14368989
It's nothing compared to what you're doing to yourself being mad online about trannies. Stress isn't healthy anon, please log off.

>>14369011
But i am not mad, i am genuinely trying to understand why?

>>14369011
How is being "angry" worse than bodily harm?

>>14368989
Im sure they are an adorable twink hon, which way is better than being a dysphoric chad. But they should realize that you can be hot af but trading insults with incels on a Norwegian squat counting board proves your movement childish, but what can you honeslty expect out of 20 some things who missed out on their childhood.

>>14369003
>implying im an accelerationist

>>14369024
>movement
Accelerationism isn't even a movement

>>14368887
>>14366771
why are these images so funny

>>14369031
Oh so its just a commitment to making everyone's lives worse?

>>14369047
Accelerationists don't "make" anything anything, accelerationism doesn't prescribe a praxis, it's a transcendental theory of capital. Seriously just read some actual accelerationist theory.

CALLING ATTENTION TO OP AND OTHER TRANS ACCELS: You guys said to ignore people that aren't worth paying attention, and yet you're devoting most of your attention to them so far in this thread. I'd like to see my serious posts responded to. I'm not disputing your trans identity. I'm just very seriously unsure about your brand of accelerationism being a real movement rather than a mere aesthetic and I want to know your thoughts more. The following are posts I've made. Please engage my posts instead of wasting time on people that aren't contributing anything.
>>14368418
>>14367627
>>14368929
Respond to these please, thanks.

>>14369054
Captial is not a transcendental process. Read some mimetic theory.

>>14369054
> its a feedback loop that repoduces itself and that means its alive

>>14367965

>>14369064
Accelerationism isn't a movement you fucking illiterate retard, please read some actual accelerationist theory and stop shitting up the thread with your willful ignorance

https://deterritorialinvestigations.wordpress.com/2017/03/29/unconditional-acceleration-and-the-question-of-praxis-some-preliminary-thoughts

>>14369073
>alive
wat

>>14369024
>adorable twink hon
No such thing exists.

>>14369085
>an -ism with more than one member isn't a following
Call it what you want. Just answer my questions. If you don't want to and nobody does I'll fuck off for good, enjoy the big nothing that this thread otherwise is. What the fuck is the point of making this thread on /lit/ if you don't want to talk?

>>14369104
One presumes a level of work has already been done by the thread's participants so that people who have actually read the material don't have to spoonfeed it to everyone else and also fight an uphill battle arguing with strawmen. But I didn't make the thread, I'm not here expecting quality discourse from fucking /lit/.

I had no idea there was such a thing as leftist accelerationism. Do they think that their elite buddies that push the same ideologies will swoop in and save the cam whore tranny class? Leftist accelerationism has to be the most self-defeating, suici...dal idea ever pushed by the tranny left, ok I get it.
At least you fuckers are creative.

>>14368433
There is no left and right, only jesters and clowns depending on the sleeping king's mood. The clowns won out because the modern period is fundamentally antipolitical.
Recognising this was one of accelerationism's great, if only, opportunities. And one would think that with a concept like deterritorialisation they might have stumbled upon this eventually. But they simply fell into more left/right racketeering, clown shows for artificial movements.

>>14369064
I want to engage anon but I'm not sure I get what you are asking. obviously a communist and a fascist and a liberal will all give you different answers on what political applications of accelrationism is. like most philosophies, accelerationism doesn't really tell you what to do. and that's what it is at the end of the day, moreso than a movement, it's a philosophy, its a theory.

>>14369136
I'm not even trying to strawman you guys. People on this site are usually willing to paraphrase things to those who ask. I've spent my own chunk of time writing for anons who ask sincere questions, explaining things, and I appreciate it when others do it for me. I'm trying to have quality discourse in asking serious questions here. Look it's not like I'm not going to read, but I'm also really busy this week til Sunday. By the time I can go and dive deep, this thread probably won't exist. How hard can it be to answer questions like "Why not abolish gender norms instead?" or "What exactly are the political views you guys hold regarding means of production, identity politics, etc?" And if you guys are too apathetic, why think that's not just mere aesthetic? That last question isn't meant to be derisive. An aesthetic can still be fine. But I want to be told straight "Yeah, we're just an aesthetic, like other subculture aesthetics" if that's the case. Right and left accels seem to be more than that though.

>>14369155

>>14369166
Well thanks anyway. I appreciate that. I'll look into the recommended readings + more when I've got time.

>>14369142
>I had no idea there was such a thing as leftist accelerationism
read a book. it was literally started by a bunch of leftists, Mark Fisher was a communist

>>14369178
>read a book
I'm applying the idea to the present day, it's otherwise not even worth discussing

>>14369184
>rationalizing being a willfully ignorant illiterate
lel this tweet defines these accelerationism threads

This hasn't been posted yet ITT. Any of you who are here to talk about ACC in good faith, go do your homework and then we can talk like adults.

https://xenogothic.com/2019/03/04/a-u-acc-primer/

>>14369184
you obviously don't understand the ideas you are attempting to "apply"

>>14366197
How can one general be this fucking childish and cringe?

>>14369253
>let me just datamine fresh ideas im too retarded to think of myself
yeah no. people are more suspicious of grifters now. reminder to aspiring theorists: be careful what you share with these pseuds. they dont give a shit about 'good faith' construction of philosophical thought. theyre only around to stamp their name on anything they can steal and meme to sell to impressionable idiots. if you have your own theories you might as well publish on your own name.

>>14369253
>good faith
kek post one good faith acc thread

>>14369170
It's cope, nothing more. That's why accs are such autists who can't even make a coherent argument in their own threads.
It's Pure Ideology: The Ideology.

>>14369175
Imagine not even understanding your own ideology. I almost feel bad for you.

>>14369365
>>14369369
>>14369389
seethe, and cope, with the distinct flavour of potent bitterness
>make an argument
the argument has already been made, you faggots just need to read some theory

its honestly quite shocking that all it took to stop the threat of the evil noumenal intelligence(s) from future capitalism was a few dudes pretending to be chicks. lets give the trannies a pat on the back

>>14369365
This is true, although I doubt their ability considering what they've come up with so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z97qLNXeAMQ

>>14369437
damn how can one infraculture be so fucking based
https://youtu.be/4mhlzyxLgoI

>>14366197
this thread is some of the most distilled cringe i've come across in a while, I should browse /lit/ more often you discord trannies are a hoot

>>14368194
lmao you fags are such cringe

>>14369464

all this pointless excitement over war. this is quite similar to how the WW1 generation felt before getting shellshocked with machine guns, airplanes, and machine guns. but i guess the war will be more merciful to us, since we'll die from drones, nukes, magnetism bombs, and other shit too terrifying to think of

>>14369477
But at least we'll still have capital.

>>14366771
you know 90% of g/acc came from and exist on the right and they are basically crypto-facists right? Nyx unironically considers herself "lesbiaNRx". they are anti-immigration and pro HBD (read: racist).

so /lit/ only rejects continental charlatanry when they hate its core demographic?

>>14369495
wtf I love trannys now

>>14369495
WTF I LOVE BASED TRANNIES NOW

>>14369528
Qapital is sentient.

>>14369528
where did you get this photo?

>>14369404
I thought it wasn't an ideology

Imagine larping as an unironic Monty Pythonist
https://youtu.be/JrsB1RfksEA

>>14369552
-ism means ideology. the name literally means acceleration ideology

>>14369552
Imagine not being able to get Zizek.

>>14369572
Imagine all the people living for today

When postmarxism missed the entire cringe era of the internet
https://youtu.be/OsyK5zNkA64

>>14366197

>>14369411
>argument
are you talking about u/acc? ok cool bro nice theory. what is this fucking philosophy weather forecast? lmao. what does it change? nothing. doesnt add anything its just piggyback hipster shit. not everyone is a gullible twittard who is easily impressed by average repackagings.
>seethe, and cope, with the distinct flavour of potent bitterness
thats the model of your so called 'philosophy' not everyone lives in your sty.
stop dragging land down to your level. match his work, try to top it or at least be original or stfu. we are oding on cringe ferchrissake.

>>14369784

>>14369784
what the fuck are you talking about

>>14369807
>>14369794
heres when i tell you to keep up and read more theory. read more theory slowtards

>>14369784
>are you talking about []? ok cool bro nice theory. what is this fucking philosophy weather forecast? lmao. what does it change? nothing. doesnt add anything its just piggyback hipster shit. not everyone is a gullible twittard who is easily impressed by average repackagings. thats the model of your so called 'philosophy' not everyone lives in your sty. stop dragging [] down to your level. match his work, try to top it or at least be original or stfu. we are oding on cringe ferchrissake.
based pasta ty anon

>>14369495
>herself

>>14366197
no thanks

>>14369528
me on the right

>>14368623
sev just crapped on this thread lol

>>14370221
great now even the trannies are making fun of us

>>14370249
oh noooooo guys she called racism boring what are we gonna do now

Hurt yourself until you love it. Let that Tranny Cock open up portals to a new Mode of Life. This is an anal gape contest! Open your sphincters let the Gnon in!

>>14370249

>>14369253
too late sweatie

>>14366197
The idea of lefty acceleration seems so weird to me. Historically when things go awry you get generals and aristocrats take over as autarchs. The commie golden age is over, I don't think you're gonna get the type of revolution you're aiming for

>>14370249

Why can't I find any photos of these accels? Are they afraid of what even a cursory physiognomic analysis will reveal?

>>14370331
if you read marx it isn't so weird, given his idea of the internal contradictions of capitalism whittling away the bourgeoisie through competition, and the capitalist system teaching the ever-growing proletariat how to organise and unite towards a common cause, until the final cataclysmic proletarian revolution overthrow the few capitalists left. there was a decent precedent at the time of popular revolutions resulting in popular governments. but yeah, modern left accelerationism doesn't look bright because there is practically no sense of class consciousness anymore. but the idea itself has precedent.

We should only discuss actual literature here.
Stop cancer threads about e-celebs and all that bullshit.

>>14370394
I think there's plenty of anti-plutocrat sentiment honestly, look at Tucker Carlsons popularity. Trump won on a populist platform, though he was a grifter and didn't follow through. You guys are just overly focused on the idea of marxism and leftism instead of simply being populists.

Detachment from reality: the thread.

>>14370496

Dugin jerking off to trannies: the thread.

Why are both acceleration and traditionalist threads full of shills? Are (((they))) trying to keep us from escaping?

Hmmmm, I think I shall decelerate things instead

>>14370649
Basically. Just ignore the contrarians and look for actual discussion.

>>14370649
Accfags don't want to escape.
>>14370676
>contrarian philosophy opposed to contrarians
>>14369369

>>14370767
>don't want to
You literally all want to become androids or trannies. If that's not escaping, I don't know what is.

>>14370249
The only thing funnier than you faggots thinking sev is trans is proving his point without a hint of self-awareness

>>14369495
Thanks, I guess this explains why two people said they couldn't answer my questions earlier. They are rightists but don't want to admit it, and answering some of my questions would have settled that.

>>14370843
Apparently he runs a sissy hypnosis discord

>>14370843
t. sev

You have to give it to a/acc. They tore down every active /lit/ accelerationist sissification psyop with their own counter-psyop. How did you do it? Was it a coordinated effort?

>>14371075
What the fuck is a/acc?

I’m new to acc. The basic idea is that by accelerating capitalism, it will eventually reach its peak and downfall, giving space to one or more political and economic systems, correct? If correct, how can people be so retarded to believe this shit? Capitalism has proven to be indestructible by any force but violence.

>>14371274
no, capitlism is the AI and we need to accelrate to make anime real

>>14371289
You have to know that in my reality-fanfic all weebs and anyone related to anime production are sent to gulags to be beaten and tortured by radical Japanese nationalists, and if a single motherfucker so much as utters the word anime, kawai or shinderu again, the gulag is destroyed along with every single inhabitant.

>>14371356
>You have to know that in my reality-fanfic all weebs and anyone related to anime production are sent to gulags to be beaten and tortured by radical Japanese nationalists, and if a single motherfucker so much as utters the word anime, kawai or shinderu again, the gulag is destroyed along with every single inhabitant.

>>14371356
based

>>14366197
>acceleration of "capitalism" will lead to calls for violent social reaction
>that will totally end favorably for us
lol

>>14366197

god, what a shit thread

This whole thread is 20 people from Twitter who all know each other and a bunch of confused locals who don't know any of them.

>>14366771
And, just like that, accellerationism is no longer cool.
Still what matter?
We can't save the west anyway, so..

>>14371635
When was it ever cool?

>>14366197
Accelerationist Praxis is accelerating this poopy thread to bump limit

>accelerate guys!
>but you have to read all this crap to accelerate with us and we won't give you quick summary
You guys need better PR to materialize your goals. Look at how religions convert people, and how populist movements convert people. You won't accelerate anything without a mobilized force.

>>14372222
>guys you have to make a populist movement
>you need to convert people
>pr
>mobilized force
kek this is why I tell you people to read. this has nothing to do with acc. idk how many times I have said this in these threads but here we go again. accelerationism isn't about people. it doesn't care about your movement. it doesn't care who is or isn't "converted". it doesn't need pr because it doesn't need followers. there is nothing to follow. there are short introductory works in the OP, so if you want to talk about it, start there. but this whole "I'm ignorant therefore you owe me an explanation" is retarded. this is /lit/. read a short introductory article.
https://jacobitemag.com/2017/05/25/a-quick-and-dirty-introduction-to-accelerationism/

>>14366197
How does accelerationism compare to Neo-reactionary though?

>>14367139
Outsideness
______138190
insurrealist
cyborg_nomade

>>14366197
aka the man in a dress thread

>>14372170
Accelerate the system against itself, reach the bump limit. Make the tread fall away into lifeless archival, use the bumps that sustain it to initate programed cell death. Use the praxis the accelerationists so deny against them, bannish them with their own theory!

>>14373639
some right wing accelerationists are neo-reactionary. mostly people just meme patchwork. there is a lot of intellectual sympathy between the two, but NRx isn't accelerationist and accelerationism isn't neo-reactionary, for whatever that's worth.

>>14373625
Shut the fuck up autismo

>>14373712
>>14372170
Nice cope guys and xers.

>>14374139
The second wave is comming as we approach the bump horizion, seethe mounts, anons are helpless in their attwmpts to change course, only bumps can change the course of the thread but each bump brings us closer to the horizon where everything changes.

prophecy says that one day, an anon will actually pose an argument against accelerationism; I wait for that day in silence

>>14374221
yikes

>>14374563
Argument against accelerationism: capitalism is necessarily a socio-linguistically i.e. human mediated process; it was never out of our control. Also "capitalism" is a historically contingent and philosophically loaded term that has reifed and assimilated many aspects of the workings of power, obscuring some in the favour of others.

>>14374623
>capitalism is necessarily a socio-linguistically i.e. human mediated process
it certainly is that way, however that is seen as the phenomenological "mask" for a larger tendency of universal intelligence production. it isn't denying that humans are involved in capitalism, it's giving an explanation regarding the inevitably of capitalism from operating in modernity. even the most restrictive socialist states see black markets open up
>it was never out of our control
I think this statement, although true at one point, is no longer. the machine we have built is too big to fail. although if you have a good answer for grabbing back control, there are a few million socialists who would love to hear it.
>Also "capitalism" is a historically contingent and philosophically loaded term that has reifed and assimilated many aspects of the workings of power, obscuring some in the favour of others
sure, but accelerationists don't mean it in the broad, glib sense. this is why it's helpful to actually read theory. capitalism is more or less the ability to win games, it is strictly a matter of operational capacity and diagrammed through game theory. some left wing accelerationists think capitalism isn't the ultimate expression of this tendency, and another superior system will emerge. most think capitalism is the last game for humans to play.

Holy fuck what even is this thread. How did a bunch of 90iq 16 year olds find their way here? Reading them trying to wrap their head around land is hilarious, the takes I'm seeing here are so fucking retarded

didn't read thread, but stay seething everyone

>>14374824
>spine check

>>14374824
based

HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT IS THIS THREAD

>>14372222
quads of truth

>>14374586
Bumps roll in increasing infrequency, as the seethe rises so does the need to bump accelerate causing the content quailty to plumit as a result of the deceased time to think anons are forced to react, completley incapable of escaping the need to bump the thread rockets toward the horizon at the end of the transcendental process. Bumping is all there is, bumping is all that matters.

>>14366814
Very good anon.

>>14374718
Land is garbage, and not complicated at all.

>>14372222
Looks like they've fully mobilized the discord. Twenty people now. Should we hide?

>LOOK OUT A/ACC WE'RE COPING SO HARD RIGHT NOW

>>14374563
>>14369369

>>14374708
hrt faggot

>>14374563
It critiques itself.

Wilhelm Reich, some liberal marxists, ancaps, and Donna Haraway.
Basically, instead of orgone energy humans use dilation energy to release capital into an hormone singularity which will create One Big Tranny swallowing the universe.
The teleoplexical rail gun opens up a permanent dilation for all worshipers of capital (non-human by the way).

Fuck off you scumbags
You think that only because someone is into studying accelerationism its because he wants to fucking be a degenerate tranny
Man, philosophy is not about changing the world into something you want, it’s mostly about studying how things are in the way they are. If you read a little of Nick Bostrom and Kurzweil you’ll see that AI Singularity is inevitable. It doesn’t matter what we do, Technological Progress is not something that we can turn back on. 70% to 90% of the people can fucking turn it down, there’ll always be that 10% that will use it against everyone’s will, so AI Singularity is a scathological event.
I’m not into degeneracy and I’m not someone with the thirst for anihillation, I’m just interested in understanding how things are going to be in some time, without regards of what any cringy Nazi thinks

N1x here. My first and only post on this board, so listen up.

The strangely potent bitterness is out of control and only helps to accelerate us further.

Synthetic Capital PMS will be relieved through self-releasing HRT seedbombs manufactured after Monsanto is split-shared by crypto-winning.

Reminder to incels that traditional wallets are vaginas and only crypto gives you the chance to have sex.

You all need to stop this strangely potent bitterness.

Nick Land is a good friend and one of the greatest intellectuals of post-postmodernity.

You can't stop economics, ATC are the true proletarian aristocracy.

>>14375473
If only~

Submersion was great, btw

>dude postironic neobaudrillardism lmao

>dude we're accelerating the generalized conditions of 1849 lmao

>>14375418
>this failure of a meme is the only argument against acc
damn you faggots really didn't bring your best

>>14375559
>accfags saying anything about memes
Saying you're all autists trannies and single children isn't a meme it's reality

>>14375577
okay. do you have an argument against accelerationism yet?

>>14375582
Boomers can't take the bantz
https://youtu.be/15Z5nsyLDbE

>>14375594
wow epic Monty Python reference bro totally not the epitome of boomer humor at all

>>14374708
>a larger tendency of universal intelligence production
This statement continues to go unexamined. I don't see how such a process could exist prior to/outside of socio-linguistic mediation, and how such a process could not be conditioned by this mediation.
>if you have a good answer for grabbing back control
Formalise Power. Control is always in a state of "grabbed", but not always conscious.
>capitalism is more or less the ability to win games, it is strictly a matter of operational capacity and diagrammed through game theory.
This definition falls into the aforementioned vulgar formulations of capitalism. Can you not see something necessarily prior to "the ability to win games"? Let's posit one, how about "the capacity to do"; "Power". Under your rubric, where does a sport team captain derive his power? or an older sibling? or an ancestral spirit? or the words on a page? (and before you claim so; no, I am not positing a form of mysticism or supernaturalism here). The answer is by reference to a socio-linguistically constructed center. A close reading of Derrida and mimetic theory is particularly instructive here.

>>14375559
>>14375582
>>14375606
you fags think you're fitting in but you're reddit as fuck and it shows

>>14375608
>I don't see how such a process could exist prior to
the process is what it is. just like any force of the universe, it is a tendency which has emergent properties. socio-linguistic mediation needed prior developments in intelligence to come about (i.e. evolution). the socio-liguistic mediation is just another step in that development, one which no longer takes place by evolution.
>outside of socio-linguistic mediation, and how such a process could not be conditioned by this mediation
the meme answer is the AI which improves itself. I'm sure you can get creative and imagine a few other examples.
>Can you not see something necessarily prior to "the ability to win games"? Let's posit one, how about "the capacity to do"; "Power".
watch Land's debate with Wolfendale on this topic of prior conditions to games. the point of game theory however is that it will operate regardless of it's preconceived conditions. so long as the rules can be formalized, game theory (and therefore capitalism as intelligence production) can operate. if a war takes place, the socio-linguistic mediation takes place secondarily to the reality of being nuked into oblivion. your socio-linguistic mediation of the process won't stop your city from burning. You losing the game (war) has real material realities that go beyond the socio-linguistic realm

>>14375623
>THAT'S INSUFFERABLE! YOU ARE ALL INSUFFERABLE!!!

>>14375668
>socio-linguistic mediation needed prior developments in intelligence to come about
These "prior developments" didn't have *functional* existence before the ability to represent them. Do you see the problem you've run into here?
>the meme answer is the AI
STILL an anthropocentric construct. STILL necessarily constrained by the aforementioned factors.
>the point of game theory however is that it will operate regardless of it's preconceived conditions.
Wrong. Why is something like this
>being nuked into oblivion.
even an object of our attention? It's because it has been deemed significant by a socio-linguistically mediated process. (There have existed cultures for example that ascribed no negative value to the event of a hurricane destroying their village). Also you didn't address my question: under your rubric, where does an ancestral spirit, for example, derive its capital (power)?

>>14375668
What does this have to do with anything? Even pseuds like Adam Curtis know that game theory has no basis in reality.

>>14375734
>These "prior developments" didn't have *functional* existence before the ability to represent them. Do you see the problem you've run into here?
there is no problem here in a materialist model of history
>STILL an anthropocentric construct. STILL necessarily constrained by the aforementioned factors
okay, I can understand the pendantic point that AI is an anthropocentric concept, but is what way is it constrained by socio-linguistic mediation when it begins to self improve? it's goals are its own, and it is certainly not operating on a socio-linguistic basis. if AI can reach the point of auto-improvement, it escapes those constraints.
>Wrong.
what do you mean here? game theory can operate on any rules. if the goal is winning a war, game theory operates. if the goal is having your village destroyed, game theory operates. it comes before the conditions it plays under. sure, we can imagine a society where the socio-linguistic concepts point to homo erectus out-evolving homo sapiens, but really, d
what does this change about the material realities of how evolution has unfolded? if your position is simply naive idealism I am certainly not buying it
>Also you didn't address my question: under your rubric, where does an ancestral spirit, for example, derive its capital (power)?
sorry, what do you mean by ancestral spirit? and why conflate capital with power after we just analyzed it to be the phenomenal mask of the tendency of intelligence production? I might just be missing the point, but asking "where does an ancestral spirit gets its capital" reads like philosophic mad libs

>>14375757
>Adam Curtis
who?

What do accelerationists think of cunny fucking?

>>14375447
>philosophy is not about changing the world into something you want
That's why you guys aren't leftists. You know Marx is famous for saying the point of philosophy should be to change it not merely describe it and here you guys are inverting it.

>>14375473
N1x, are you or are you not a leftist? If not, why not?

>>14375503
Hi Moldbug, can you please become a leftist?

>>14375503
ATC? Any Two Cards?

>>14371380
Cui bono, we should ask, cui bono? The Eternal Tranny, of course.

>>14375852
>there is no problem here in a materialist model of history
There is for one that doesn't take the nature and origins of representation seriously.
>but is what way is it constrained by socio-linguistic mediation
Will your AI be socialised? (it will be; by defintion it will be), then it will be constrained by its socio-linguistic inheritance and instantiation.
>it's goals are it's own
Following the previous point, mimetic theory impinges HARD here
>what do you mean here?
What is winning? What is a game? Who are the players? These abstractions must be formulated before a game can even take place.
>but really, what does this change about the material realities of how evolution has unfolded?
Don't know what you're trying to say here. It doesn't change material reality, it changes (it is an alteration of) socio-cultural reality.
>sorry, what do you mean by ancestral spirit?
Such as those found in cultures of ancestor worship. Is their ability to effect change a product of their ability leverage capital? According to your definitions the answer is "yes". Hence my claim that accels (and others) hypostasize capital and in doing so leave more ontologically prior processes unexamined.

>>14375954
>There is for one that doesn't take the nature and origins of representation seriously
Yeah, possibly. I think the idea of representation can fit pretty clearly into the development of consciousness (not intelligence) and therefore doesn't really cause much of an issue here
>Will your AI be socialised? (it will be; by defintion it will be)
we might not have the same definition then. can you elaborate on this socialized AI?
>What is winning? What is a game? Who are the players? These abstractions must be formulated before a game can even take place.
yep. then, regardless of what abstractions are formulated, game theory operates. this is why it works. not seeing the contention here. humans don't form the vast majority of the "rules", nature does.
>It doesn't change material reality
then why would it matter here? accelerationism is an explicitly materialist philosophy.
>Such as those found in cultures of ancestor worship. Is their ability to effect change a product of their ability leverage capital?
I still don't know what you are asking. ancestor spirits don't exist. are you talking about the virtual image of the ancestor in the mind of the villager? the big Other of the ancestor in these societies? in that case, it doesn't fit a marxist definition or an accelerationist definition to talk about the capital of ancestor spirit. again, capital isn't simply about power or effecting change, it is a matter of intelligence development, efficiency, operational capacity.
>hypostasize capital
acc is a critical philosophy, you are confusing capital as a noumenal expression of intelligence production and the tendency of intelligence production in itself

>>14375997
god what faggots

>>14374563
Where literacy, logos, which must be handed down from above, is synonymous with patrilinearity and law, numeracy, according to Land, belongs to a spontaneous cultural intelligence, to 'socially distributed ordinal competences', which open up humans to an outside of logos. Following Deleuze's inventive reinterpretation of the '!imaeus in Difference and Repetition, 'Mechanomics' reiterates how the procedures o f selection that ' split' number and render it over to mathematics, beginning with that which forms ordinal (sequencing) numbers into 'equal' cardinal units, leave a 'problematic' remainder which is relayed to a ' higher' number type or scale. Thus is achieved a local neutralisation of difference through sequestration and deferral, and the problematic 'energy' of number is constricted and rendered into the safe hands of a specialised discipline at the same time as p opular numerical practices are relegated to the realm of naive trivia. Land argues that place-value formalises this dissociation of different scales that is constitutive of stratification, creating redundancy, and using zero as its marker. Place-value zero corresponds to a stratification: a negative feedback understood as the pleasure principle, or principle of maintained identity, which registers and relays traumatic force through the indexes of interiority and threats to the maintenance of identity. For Land

>>14374563
prophecy says that one day, an accfag will actually post an argument made by accelerationists; I wait for that day I die laughing

>>14376098
>he didn't read the op
weird

>>14375997
>and therefore doesn't really cause much of an issue here
There is, hence this conversation.
>can you elaborate on this socialized AI?
It's just an ontological qualification. An AI is necessarily socialized, otherwise it isn't one at all.
>humans don't form the vast majority of the "rules", nature does.
Show me these natural rules unmediated by representation.
>then why would it matter here?
Because socio-linguistic reality is prior to and has primacy over material reality. "Matter" and "the material" must first be named (signified) before it can effect ***functional*** change (think back to the hurricane culture).
>ancestor spirits don't exist.
Then how are we referring to them? and how did they effect change in the cultures in which they did exist? (they're actually effecting change in this very conversation; again, see mimetic theory). It doesn't fit a Marxist or an accelerationist definition because it's a blindspot in these edifices. They're merely describing epiphenomena.

>>14375997
"Ancestor spirits don't exist" lmao this is Richard Dawkins kind of shit level of discourse no matter how densely "intellectual" you fags try to sound.

>>14376113
>An AI is necessarily socialized, otherwise it isn't one at all
you haven't demonstrated this, only asserted it
>Show me these natural rules unmediated by representation.
read a physics textbook
>Because socio-linguistic reality is prior to and has primacy over material reality
this is just false, I don't know what else to say here. I'm a materialist so I think we would just agree to disagree. I think object can and have existed outside the mind, and that processes have brought representation into reality through the development of consciousness.
>Then how are we referring to them?
by means of their virtual image. a virtual image has no actual existence. are you a rationalist? do you think everything which can be thought actually exists?

>>14376149
The don't actually exist, but I gave two other conception which fit them just fine. Or are Deleuze and Lacan just more Richard Dawkins shit to you?

>>14370869
hard right globocultural turn incoming -- strap in lil niggy

>If you kill your enemy then he wins("your enemy" = capital)

>>14376150
>you haven't demonstrated this, only asserted it
An unsocialized AI is an impersonal force of nature. Intelligence must be intentional, and intention is socio-linguistically mediated. Archaic cultures had "AIs" in the form of anthropomorphized natural phenomena.
>read a physics textbook
>texbook
>book
Literally proved my point.
>I think object can and have existed outside the mind,
So do I, I'm a materialist too. I just don't take representation -- its origins and nature -- for granted. I understand that nothing has functional, practical reality outside of representation. I've demonstrated this.
>by means of their virtual image.
This doesn't defeat my claim, it's just a redefinition of existence. Something that effects change -- whether it be a lump of matter or an abstraction or a pre-rational intuition or whatever -- has functional existence whether you like it or not. Call it a virtual image or whatever as much as you want, it doesn't change this fact.