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Pseudo-philosophies, such as Hegelianism, Egoism, and Nietzsche-worship have greatly contributed to the worsening of western philosophy, and the destruction of the western intellectual.

Such "philosophies" are more akin to political ideologies, as they often rely upon conjecture, unrationalized claim, and emotional impression. These ideology-philosophies also are similar in that they most often seek a semi-spiritual goal: in Nietzsche's philosophy, to become a so-called overman is the object of all one's actions - very similar to Stirnerism, in which one seeks to break the supposedly false bonds of societal control and hierarchy.

A great striving towards a utopia or utopian man is found in all these ideology-philosophies. It is not then a great surprise that many dangerous and provenly violent political ideologies, such as Marxism and National Socialism, also hold this similar value of "Utopia through Struggle".

In "Thus spoke Zarathustra", Nietzsche's prophet, who is quite similar in presentation and theme to Christ, is hounded by devout followers and disciples, who seemingly hold him in some sort of spiritual office.

These ideological values of thinly-veiled spiritualism and authoritarianism have no doubt had a horrible effect on western civilization at large, corrupting and convoluting legitimate socratic discussion and progress through political and social means.

>> No.14296098

I posit that these types of ideologies are a reaction to a deeper spiritual problem of the western body, not an engine of their destruction.

>> No.14296142

>>14296066
cringe

>>14296098
based

>> No.14296154

>>14296066
Jesus Christ this post is so cringe. Everyone just sage it, please. It's clear that this person is a fan of rhetoric over philosophy.

>> No.14296173

>>14296066
>corrupting and convoluting legitimate socratic discussion and progress through political and social means
Bro you just posted cringe. That's some outdated enlightenment bullshit if I ever heard it. Philosophy and discourse is not the driving force of history.

The fact is that Nietzsche and Marx are way more interesting than people like Voltaire or de Tocqueville or John Locke because enlightenment ideas are such common currency and clearly inadequate for analyzing the modern world.

>> No.14296185

>>14296154
this

>> No.14296197

>>14296098
Correct

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>>14296066
pic unrelated

>> No.14297553

>>14296173
de Tocqueville is one of the most insightful and timely commentators an American could ask for, but I agree that Locke and Voltaire are (and were by the dawn of the world wars) antique.

>> No.14297699

>>14296066
>in Nietzsche's philosophy, to become a so-called overman is the object of all one's actions
Nietzche never said that every single person should become an overman

>> No.14297708

but all philosophy is ideology you stupid /pol/turd

>> No.14297899

>>14296066
>Nietzche
>Stirner
>"Political ideologies"
Idk about what Hegel says, but the other ones dont really tell you to support any political ideology in particular. In fact they do a wide critique at almost all political ideologies

>> No.14297941

>>14296066
>by using my philosophy i have concluded that my philosophy is correct.
>by using my philosophy i have concluded that other philosophy is incorrect.

Who cares pseud, go read a (one) book.