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Recently became a Sunni Muslim, what's a good Hadith collection? I don't want a major one, just a small sampling of the most relevant for everyday practice

>> No.14232374
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>>14232357
Kitab-Al Kafi
Nahj al-Balaghah

Also, Muhummad(pbuh) elected Ali as his successor, just like every other major Prophet had elected a successor.
Then Shias made up random doctrines like "Imams being infalliable" that was never taught by Ali.

So your best bet is just to call yourself a "Muslim" and not be associated with "sects"

>> No.14232383

>>14232374
There is no functional law or practice outside of sects.... The sources you just used for your opinion are sectarian.

>> No.14232393

>>14232383
Sects are a spook. There are Authentic Hadith in both Sunni and Shia collections, and inauthentic ones in them both.

Just follow the 5 pillars of Islam and call yourself a "Muslim". Do you think Muhummad referred to himself as a "Sunni" or a "Shia" Muslim?

>> No.14232401

>>14232393
Are you a scholar that you can judge which are authentic or in authentic? Do you even look at the chains of narration???!???

The five pillars are different for each
Sunnis pray five times a day, Shia pray three times a day.

Sunni comes from "Sunnah", meaning the wont [of the Prophet, peace be upon him]. In other words those who take how he lived as their normative and paragon

>> No.14232408

>>14232401
Lol okay, keep regurgitating Salafi propaganda.

Shias have the same 5 pillars of Islam. And do pray 5 times a day. They just combine one of their prayer times, which Sunnis can do as well if they forget to pray.

And there is evidence in the book Nahj al-Balaghah that Ali was elected as the successor

>> No.14232425

>>14232408
Huh? Salafis are shills for the Ulema? Or maybe you think everything was peachy between Sunnis and Shias before the Salafis? Ever hear of the Safavids? They eradicated the Sunnis of Persia

Combining prayers for Sunnis you refer to is called making them up, it's considered undesirable and a serious sin to do on purpose. It's not acceptable deliberate practice

Whether he was or not is pretty much irrelevant as he never believed there should be contention after he was appointed as an advisor, and that pretty much quashed it since it meant he pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr and recognized him as legitimate

>> No.14232441

>>14232425
I know that there has been a lot of bad history between Sunnis and Shias. Im not saying that either sect is 100% correct.
There is definitely lots of made up traditions in both Sunni and Shia Islam.

>Weather or not Ali was elected is irrelevant
bruh, obviously yes, he was elected and chose to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr to stop more schisms from happening within Islam, thats why I am saying, its better not to refer to yourself as "Sunni" or "Shia". Just "Muslim"

>> No.14232456

>>14232441
Can you even read Arabic, or are you just a degree in Wikipedia? Because your takes are hot enough to scorch rock

The Prophet, peace be upon him, said Ali was the greatest of all judges, and his student's student's student was Abu Hanifa. The fact is there are today major, major praxiological differences between Sunnis and Shia, the political issue is only relevant because of either rejecting the legitimacy of the Rashidun (which Ali didn't do, making him a Sunni), or a praxiological and theological one (something that developed over time and has gotten crazy). If you pray five times a day and don't reject the legitimacy of the Rashidun then you are de facto a Sunni

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Bump

>> No.14233494

>>14232357
>Sunni
For what conceivable reason

>> No.14233497

>>14233494
Because Shia think trannies and prostitution are halal and Ibadi are basically castrated Khawarij

>> No.14233650

>>14232357
>Recently went from this kind of kufr to that kind of kufr
Ok hadither.

>> No.14233655

>>14233650
>make takfir on literally every Muslim in the world including those who actually knew the Prophet, peace be upon him, except for yourself and like two or three secularist Muslims who want to fit in to hip western culture

L O L

>> No.14233680

>>14233655
I don't exactly fit into western culture, if you knew.
Kufr in my understanding is simply covering the truth, islam is accepting the truth and everyone does both until they clearly do one more than the other.

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>>14232357
Probably any condensation of Bukhari or Muslim, i know you don't want major ones but they are considered the most authentic out of the six major Sunni hadith books.

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>>14233692
Dunna if uploading PDF's of actual books is bannable here, but if it isnt i have an english copy of Bukari and Muslim put together if you would like that

>> No.14233735

>>14233680
No one cares about your one-man sect that doesn't reproduce

>>14233692
I'm looking for an anthology of what is important for daily practice

>> No.14233740

>>14233735
if you follow a particular madhab that might help, hadith commentaries for the respective scholars would be the best place to look if so.

>> No.14233757

>>14233740
*Madhhab
Sorry not an Arabic speaker

>> No.14233803

>>14233740
Not looking to get deep into Hadith science rn, just learning the most prominent and frequently applied ones. If I need fatwas from them I will just get fatwa colldctions

>> No.14233814

>>14233757
Well the dh in your second spelling is one letter in Arabic that has no English equivalent and is represented as z, d,zh, or dh, so either spelling works

>> No.14233844

>>14233803
I see, well i personally haven't found any small, ritual focused hadith collections that i can remember, so i am sorry to have wasted your time, may Allah guide to what you seek

>>14233814
Thanks for the info, brother

>> No.14233863

>>14232401
>Are you a scholar that you can judge which are authentic or in authentic?

Why do all muslims always use this argument on every single issua?

>> No.14233968

>>14233863
Against someone claiming to be an authority on which Hadiths are sound and which aren't when they couldn't even tell you the source or lack thereof of said Hadiths? Because it's fundamental to establishing which Hadiths are valid for religious rulings and therefore practice, which is somewhat important.

>> No.14233997

/lit/. You’ll come for the Heidegger, but you’ll stay for the ramblings of sandniggers.

>> No.14233998

>>14233863
Because talking out of your ass is a sin.

>> No.14234066

Heidegger is very popular with Islamic extremists.

>> No.14234751

>>14232357
>9gag imagine to start thread on Muslim sects
cringe

>> No.14234756

>>14232357
>Recently became a Sunni Muslim
>posts haram pictures on a haram board on the haram Internet
Islam in a nutshell.

>> No.14234758

>>14232357
>Recently became a Sunni Muslim
Why?

>> No.14234761

>>14232357
>>14232374
okay guénonposter

>> No.14234768

>>14232393
>Just bla bla and call yourself a "Muslim"
You nailed it.
Because Islam is all about pretending.

>> No.14234770

>>14233997
We've gone from Christian larpers straight to mohammedan larpers.

>> No.14234775

>>14232401
>Sunnis pray five times a day, Shia pray three times a day.
Sunnis and Shias just do haram things all the time and pretend it's not haram.

>> No.14234782

>>14232441
>a lot of bad history between Sunnis and Shias.
Yeah because Muslims kill each others and obey the infidels. That's what defines them.

>> No.14234791

>>14233680
>I don't exactly fit into western culture, if you knew.
>posting on 4chan
lol my fucking sides

>> No.14234794

Islam gets Christianity so wrong that it really turned me off from it. They don't understand the Trinity.

>> No.14234795

>>14233497
>Ibadi are basically castrated Khawarij
Based Wikipediascimmer

>> No.14234796

>>14233757
>Sorry
Islam in a nutshell.

>> No.14234807

>>14233863
Yes.
Basically, Islam is just this:
"This haram thing I'm doing isn't really haram because bla bla bla".

>> No.14234814

>>14234066
>Islamic
>extremists.
lol drinking camel piss is so extreeeeme.

>> No.14234824

>>14234794
>understand the Trinity
C'mon...
Why bother "understanding Trinity" when there is camel piss?

>> No.14235055

>>14234814
>>14234824
>le camel piss
the only ones who actually do that are bedouins in the sahara. you are referring to a hadith with a weak chain link, which is invalid in most muslim schools of law

>>14234794
>trinity
god is his son but hes also god but hes came to earth
kek
trinitards are mentally ill polytheists

>> No.14235139

>>14235055
>muslim
>law
LOL
Muslims obey the Infidels, that's the only law they follow.

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>>14234824

Camel piss has proven health benefits

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5739131/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5701391/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21854200/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22922085/

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>> No.14235777

>when you're so beyond Wikipedia you cite 4chan