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Are highly attractive people (8+/10) capable of real depth? As an ugly fuck, I don't trust very good-looking writers. I am a firm believer these people don't have real insight into the sheer horror of existence.

>> No.14206887

It's often the opposite. The ugly person becomes inflicted with a profound sexual neurosis, and it clouds their visions. The ugly man makes an argument, and then looks in the mirror and fears that it was ust a product of his sexual frustration, and therefore shallow. The beautiful man on the other hand knows he has no such affliction, and is then free to develop his thoughts.

>> No.14206892

>>14206887
link a single philosopher hotter than a 5

>> No.14206895

>>14206875
It generally doesn't matter. Kant was a goblin. Tolstoy was a handsome aristocrat. They were both insightful writers.

>> No.14206896

>>14206892
Camus was literally a Chad

>> No.14206898

good looking smart people run circles around the best things smart ugly guys are capable of. good looking people live more interesting, active lives, so they're capable of writing more than just "i'm miserable and alone and i wish the girl next door would touch my peepee"

>> No.14206899

>>14206896
he was a swarthy little goblin

>> No.14206909

>>14206887
Are ugly women shallow too?

>> No.14206912
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>>14206896
>>14206899
>norwooding
>manlet
>eye area is a 3/10 at best
still looking for >5

>> No.14206914

>>14206875
Im a 9/10 and im the best writer in my class according to many of my professors so yeah we are out there

>> No.14206919
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>>14206892
/thread

>> No.14206925
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>>14206892
oh?

>> No.14206928

>>14206892
me desu. My ex told me I’d be a 10 if I was a little taller :/

>> No.14206933

I only know one intelligent good-looking man and he is constantly falling prey to sexual impulses and everything that comes with them these days (addiction to instagram/tinder, constantly chatting up women, etc.). The very real possibility of sex takes control of his life for long periods of time, during which he becomes an insufferable, shallow cunt. Maybe he will be wiser in older age and put some of his interesting thoughts to use.

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>>14206925

>> No.14206959

>>14206875

Ugly people are more prone to resorting to self-deception to cope with their existence. Handsome and successful people might pity you, therefore they might acknowledge your existence so they are not less honest people by virtue of being distant from your suffering. Their feeling of superiority can and possibly in fact is based upon sympathizing with your inferiority

>> No.14206966

>>14206895

Do you find young Tolstoy handsome?

>> No.14206968

>>14206912
>>14206919
>>14206925

Dishonest charlatans, intellect without wisdom

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>>14206942

>> No.14206976

>>14206966
Well he certainly wasn't ugly, as evidenced by his numerous escapades.

>> No.14206980

>>14206875
Having a partner and a fruitful family life is pretty important on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, only after achieving this step will one be able to move onto self-actualization. So in reality I trust the average to attractive ones more because they are less likely to see things through a lens of jaded sexual frustration.

Just look at all the losers on 4chan (including this board) who whine and think that having a gf will solve all their existential woes. Am I really going to expect them to know shit about anything?

>> No.14206985

>>14206970
brutal

>> No.14206989

>>14206970
holy son of a sweet baby jesus, that is legit manlet
what other manlet thinkers were there?

>> No.14206999

>>14206980
>Just look at all the losers on 4chan (including this board) who whine and think that having a gf will solve all their existential woes. Am I really going to expect them to know shit about anything?
i do. i don't know why, but most of my life's important decisions comes from things i've seen in this site. i use /lit/, /r9k/ and /pol/ anons opinions very seriously, unironically

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>>14206892
I don't think Neech is ugly. Face looks robust and symmetrical in his youth.

>> No.14207011

>>14206970
He may never recover from this.

>> No.14207013

>>14206999
Read more and realize you're making a giant mistake, taking the words of fools.
>/pol/
I sincerely hope you are trolling

>> No.14207014

>>14206892
Witty

>> No.14207020

>>14207007
Well it doesn't matter what you think unfortunately because the dude got rejected multiple times and died alone, we can safely conclude the women of his time did not find him attractive.

>> No.14207028

>>14207013
i don't need to read a single sentence of these so called "great books". anons read it for me and explain on lit all the knowledge i need. /pol/ does the same but for politics. r9k helps with dating and relationships it's like having a professor guide you through a text, because what's a professor anyway, other than an interactive secondary source?

>> No.14207031

>>14206896

This is why for me, it's Sartre.

>> No.14207036

>>14207007
He really doesn't look that bad for an barnyard animal anal rapist.

>> No.14207041

>>14207020
>Well it doesn't matter what you think unfortunately because the dude got rejected multiple times and died alone
Hold the fuck up because I thought you clearly meant being physically attractive. As I said I don't think he was ugly, I think all great philosophers have some kind of anti-social and irrepressible intelligence that is innate, even the gay ones. And not one that drives them to climb the social latter or even do well for themselves necessarily, but to find the answers to questions that no one else even considers asking. Also Neech was sick, he had a brain tumor for who knows how many years of his life, that probably caused all kinds of personal trouble for him aside from his health.

>> No.14207042

>>14206875
only if they can survive the hedonistic treadmill

>> No.14207079
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>>14206875
Yes, but it's a lot harder due to the obvious temptation of just riding on your looks. Someone whose highly attractive doesn't need to be that intelligent to get a lot of validation and attention. They can get away with being stupid, and anything people can get away with they're more likely to do.

The further you go down in terms of attractiveness the more you have to rely on your intelligence, your verbal abilities and your sense of humour.

If you're attractive and choose to focus on intellectual pursuits, it shows a great deal of spiritual fortitude.

>> No.14207090

>>14206875
good lookers are high iq
ugly subhumans (like me and u) are stupid as shit

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>>14206892

>> No.14207103

>>14206875
Check
>>14206498

>> No.14207149

>>14206892
Klages was a chad

>> No.14207160

Lol, why do you faggots think not being highly attractive means you don’t get to have sex or experience anything in life other than self-pity? You can have sex, get married and have a family even as an ugly man.

>> No.14207193

>>14207160
weird cope, but ok

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>>14207149
the most decent one yet
but his mediocre work just strengthens my theory
the greater the incel, the greater his works

>> No.14207218

>>14206875
>real depth
Delusion invented by ugly people.

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Neech knew the omnisatisfied man was a mere swine and midwit at best

>> No.14207397
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How sad op has such a narrow minded existence that he'd think that.

Pic related Lucian Freud, one of the most gifted and famous figurative painters of the latter half of the 20th century

>rumored to have over 40 kids my multiple mistresses

>cheated on all of his wives

>couldn't keep girls off of him.

>fucked his 1st wife's aunt before he married her.

You're a sad pitiful man to think this op.

>> No.14207410
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14207410

Shocked no one mentioned mishima, he was not not only a chad, but one of the most conflicted individuals in contemporary literature.

>> No.14207419

>>14207410
He was short, even by Japanese standards (5'4").

>> No.14207423

>>14207410
gays in general can look pretty good. Wilde ofc, Proust had a sort of aristocratic well-keptness, Genet (who nobody ever talks about here, interesting) wasn’t half bad

>> No.14207424

>>14207410
but hes an oriental manlet

>> No.14207427

>>14207419

OP's requirements were being good looking, not TALL.

Mishima was without a doubt good looking and in stature and charisma above most japanese men, helps too he was a bona-fide celebrity.
Another example from further back.

Mikhail Lermontov

>Lermontov embarked upon the easy-going lifestyle of a reckless young hussar, as he imagined it should be. "Mikhail, having found himself the very soul of the high society, liked to entertain himself by driving young women mad, feigning love for several days, just in order to upset matches,"


>In December 1834 Lermontov met his old sweetheart Yekaterina Sushkova at a ball in Saint Petersburg and decided to have a revenge: first he seduced, then, after a while dropped her, making the story public.

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>>14207427

Forgot pic. It's a painting but he was a good looking dandy and one of the most famous of the russian golden age writers.

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Both

>> No.14207463

>>14207397
why so many glasses?

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>>14206892

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>>14206892
Je t’ai jamais vu avant. Tu viens souvent par ici?

>> No.14207486

>>14207427
OP talks of highly attractive people. Short people are not highly attractive. Being short subtracts points, even if the guy is good looking.

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>>14206892
This guy fucked

>> No.14207504

>>14207486
Very incel mentality, almost as if you see attractived as an RPG point system. Curious Anon, how is the relationship between your parents?

>> No.14207511

>>14206875
why are the ugly and low bred so full of ressentiment?

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>>14207472
tous les jours

>> No.14207585

Well you've clearly never read Someone to Watch Over Me

The part about her curly red pubic hair is riveting

>> No.14207591

Alcibiades.

>> No.14208014

>>14207093
big ted

>> No.14208048

>>14206887
Attractive people don't develop thoughts because they don't think at all. They are slaves to "going with the flow" because it always takes them to places that are present to be. The halo effect is a curse.

Only the ugly NPCs end up with severe neuroticism, and it manifests in very stereotypical ways. They are the caricatures of "cringe" subcultures.

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>>14206875
As an attractive person i feel certain bullying and feeling left out aren't things you experience which in interactions at school and with family affect so much of your behavior, so i believe it does play an important role in the development of personalities.

>> No.14208060

>>14207090
Autistic retards are literally more alive and alive on different levels than normalfags. Normalfags are "sunk" (Versenke) in life. They never distinctly and finally hew concrete concepts off from the immanent roil of their affects, emotions, hunches, and background normie gestalten providing them endless social cues and clues to follow.

>> No.14208064
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>>14206875
I rest my case.

>> No.14208069

It took so long for me to glow up that I was a nerd through and through by the time I came to inhabit a Chad's body. I'm trying to be less autistic and more normal now, but the clock is ticking.

>> No.14208071

>>14206892
Kierkegaard

>> No.14208078

>>14208050
It's not the ostracization. People are literally attracted to attracted people, only to dregs are "left out" but it's the handful of attractive people that are brought in. The three castes are absolutely phenomenologically distinct. Attractive people are most likely to develop "on rails"

>> No.14208084

>>14207028
All hope is lost for you. You literally want people to tell you what to think. This is so pathetic I actually feel a bit sick.

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>>14207410
>>14207410

steelpilled

>> No.14208091

>>14208069
Your formative years (7-14) are the most important in shaping your fundamental nature and lens (outside of the natural disposition you are born with) The effects are permanent, anything after that does not conform to it will be eternally "faking it until you make it"

>> No.14208092

>>14208060
>(Versenke)

And what the fuck does that mean, asshole? Don't try to sound smart using German words when you can neither spell nor understand them you absolute pseud cunt.

t. Eternal Hans

>> No.14208098

>>14208091
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. There's some good feels to be had by at least maintaining the appearance of "making it".

>> No.14208105

>>14208092
His translation and conjugation of it is completely off the mark as well.

>> No.14208107

>>14208098
it's an inauthentic existence even if it is more comfortable than your lot in life.

>> No.14208111

>>14208092
>>14208105
Newfags

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>>14206933
>I only know one intelligent good-looking man and he is constantly falling prey to sexual impulses and everything that comes with them these days (addiction to instagram/tinder, constantly chatting up women, etc.).
handsome men live like women indeed. they are sex addict and their destiny is to be orbiters, just like 99% of ugly men.
Handsome men are plagued by the constant attention from men and women, just like women are plagued by the constant attention by orbiters.
THis is why women and handsome will never ever say something relevant.

>> No.14208151

>>14208107
Does that matter? I don't think there's any way to live authentically to begin with, unless you never stop to reflect.

>> No.14208277

>>14207007
He looks pretty Chad-like in that picture where he's younger and doesn't have his trademark facial hair yet.

>> No.14208489

>>14208112
i dont get people like this. why dont you just literally LOSE the weight? Is that too much of an abstract concept for your lard-ass brain to grasp? I don't get it.

>> No.14208506

>>14206875
Coping uglyfag

>> No.14208518

>the chad cope itt

Chads live life on easymode, being handed everything, receiving attention from everyone, never experiencing true hardship or oppression of any kind. Whatever these individuals have to say is irrelevant to me. They could make conjectures about things and pretend to know what they’re talking about, but ultimately I don’t care about their point of view. Rejection, self-doubt and isolation are essential to develop integrity and strength.

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>>14207079
>If you're attractive and choose to focus on intellectual pursuits, it shows a great deal of spiritual fortitude.
It's my lucky day.

>> No.14208545

anyone else have a kind of second puberty when they hit 20?
I used to be ugly weakling but became attractive

>> No.14208564

>>14207431
Not in his early life, he was much shorter than average and a messy sperg, he only got popular with the women becaue he managed to become a hussar, and hussars fucked

>> No.14208571

>>14208564

It's all about your 20s man, if you become a chad in your 20s you're set. 20s are the true proving ground for humanity, anything before that is infantile.

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>>14206875
Attractiveness, when it comes to master writers, does not matter. Or for that case all of mans higher calibre of work. However we must not forget the biological advantages which supply the base of attraction: a protruding mouth for example creates a diagonal facial angle and so smaller cranial capacity, another would be a strong jaw is the result of high testosterone levels hence is attractive to women, or plump lips attractive to men since it is the fat deposits(as with around the face and general body of the woman, however to an extreme extent(as with all "positives
: once they go beyond the attractive level they reach the abnormal and so lose their original benefit) is caused by higher oestrogen levels. However really this attraction transcends sex as an attraction man is attractive to men, and an attractive woman attractive to women, it is only the primary sexuality lost. Race also cannot go unmentioned in this talking as we also briefly touched upon it with the example of the facial angle. These various collectively inherited traits and characters subsume the individually variant characteristics. New studies are even coming out that one unconsciously determines a large percent of very accurate information about an individual just within the first seconds of seeing them, which of course includes their morphological character.

I really hit the genetic lottery here, been fighting women off of me before I even new they had crushes on me and following the religious and philosophical since younger than that.

>> No.14208582

>>14208545
It's not a second puberty anon but it's normal, most guys continue to change around that age than the changes tend to stay around for a few more years longer every year until you get into your late twenties/thirty it slows down much, much more.

Or you might just of grown late, it happens to some kids.

>> No.14208592

>>14208518
+1 also the reason why there are barely any female writers. Their life is too easy. Even in times were women had "no rights" or no say in society they had it easier than men. A chad man lives the life of a woman. Constant cheap admiration, no need to build character, just go with the flow. No male chad ever produced anything worthwhile. A woman with elephantiasis might write a worthwhile philosophical text but it rarely happens