/lit/ - Literature

Knowing about Irish history & the relationship between Protestants and Catholics in Ireland is more important than reading Aquinas' entire Summa for the sake of reading Ulysses.
Knowing about British history in general helps too.

>>14176756
>>14176790
I'd also recommend reading A Portrait and maybe The Dead. Other than that, get a guide and jump right in. I'd recommend not over preparing yourself and just allowing Joyce's prose to take you on a fantastic journey.

>>14176756
lovely painting

>>14176790
irish history? British history? I know nothing except those fellas worked on the railroard, and the brits founded the colonies that became america, is there an article or something that would sum it up. I don't mean something insanely short, as that would be an insane request, but I don't fancy reading an entire book on history, of any culture really.
>>14176814
monet>vangough imo, although art hoes will contest it heavily

>>14176756
There are a lot of references to literature in Ulysses, but not all of them are required to comprehend the main themes. Here are the things that are obligatory:
>Odyssey
>Dubliners
>A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
"Hamlet" is arguably obligatory as well.
I guess there could also be made a list of obligatory reads for individual chapters, for example Chapter 2 would have what >>14176790 said (Irish history & the relationship between Protestants and Catholics in Ireland) while Chapter 9 would have require basic knowledge of Shakespeare's life.

>>14177027
so are you saying I shouldnt jump into joyce with Ulysses? But with some earlier works.

>>14177047
>so are you saying I shouldnt jump into joyce with Ulysses
Of course not. That would be a stupid move to make and not just because of the difficulty of the prose but also because one of the three principal (let's say "main" characters) of "Ulysses" is developed in "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man" (he is the main character of that work) and certain characters from "Dubliners" appear in "Ulysses". You read in this order:
Dubliners -> A Portrait of the Artist as a Young -> Ulysses
Before Ulysses you need to also have Odyssey under your belt, you can put that in wherever you like (e.g. Odyssey -> Dubliners or Dubliners -> Odyssey -> Portrait)

>>14177047
>>14177047
>shouldnt jump into joyce with Ulysse
>read earlier works
Not him, but it's a lot more reasonable and perhaps a tad logic, don't you think?

>>14176756
>link the preperatory literature for reading Ulysses
N O N E

>>14177108
strawman. I was asking for the chart that I had previously seen. I understand the sentiment you are representing here, as with any great work you cannot possibly underestimate the chance of life changing aspects. But this was unhelpful and simply full of cringy spite.

>>14177108
>sage this shit
my man, 80% of the other threads are fucking hopeless, absolute trash
this one is not even that bad (in spirit)

>>14177182
at least i posted a literature based thread on the literature board instead of putting some stupid /pol/ tier opinion and then saying, "recomendation for this feel?" seriously fuck off with that shit sort your own damn feelings out .

>>14177212
I'm defending you...

>>14177217
i was also agreeing with you, it was an at least lost in text

>>14177182
Yeah, at least he posted a beautiful painting (and that's the only good part about his post, but still something).

/paintings/ thread I guess?

>>14177238
if your going to do this at least have the courtesy to leave the artists name, or even the pieces name, somewhere. In the file name or in the post. I hate when I can't find a nice painting.

>>14177264
Sorry, I'm posting from my phone. That was Ludovico Tommasi.

Heraclitus Homeric Problems

>>14178358
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