/lit/ - Literature

>>14096956
Freud

>>14096956
mand and his symbols OBVIOUSLY

>>14096956
Read 3/4 of the way through the portable Jung (viking classics) and then read the Origins and History of Consciousness by Erich Neumann. After that, check out Memories, Dreams and Reflections (don't listen to the people who are bound to advise you that this is a good starting place. It's dissonant towards his professional work and is only worth checking if you are already intrigued by his writings).

7 Sermons of the Dead so you can get filtered if you're a pleb

>>14096976
Only people with massive cocks can pass through these gates

>>14096968
This, and then immediatly pic related

thanks guys

i bought man and his symbols and demian by herman hesse

which one i should read first?

>>14096956
Jung is esoteric hogwash

>>14097010
Nobody gives a shit about your opinion. Prove it.

>>14097007
Jung first

>>14097018
Open any turd that says C.G. Jung on it and see for yourself.

>>14097010
>don't understand therefore bullshit

Now where have I heard that argument before?

>>14097026
>Open any turd that says C.G. Jung on it and see for yourself.

>>14097018
He's right. Jung is a trendy reddit meme. Freud, Adler, Lacan > Jung

>>14097049
>look at me, this is MY opinion!
Again, nobody gives a damn. Back up your argument or fuck off.

>>14097049
Lacan is a midget compared to Jung you little shit you

>>14097057
>psychoanalysis
>gib proofs
based retard

>>14097073
All I'm asking is that you substantiate your opinion, you nonce. What's wrong with you?

>>14097084
Asking people to substantiate their arguments is a sign of repressed homosexual fascism

>>14096970
Why not all of the portable Jung?

I couldn't finish Man and his Symbols, it's too housewive-tier. Like reading a more elaborate horoscope.

>>14097103
>housewive-tier
That was the point of it. It's a layman's introduction

>>14097103
>>14097124
To reinforce the point, it was written entirely and exclusively in English and not German. It goes to show Jung's opinion of Anglos.

>>14097099
The later part gets into Jung's ideas of alchemy. He begins to use a lot of nebulous jargon in regard to the alchemical process, thus to understand it, you will need to gain a requisite understanding of alchemy in itself. For this, I would recommend Mircea Eliade's book or one by Marie-Louise von Franz.

>>14096956
Watch a few Jordan Peterson clips where he explains the concept of Archetypes and whatnot and then go straight into Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious.

If you want you can read his bio Memories, Dreams and Reflections. A lot of people recommend Man and his Symbols as a start but IMO it's pointless when you can just spend half an hour watching Peterson explain it consicely.

>>14097151
If I remember correctly the stuff about alchemy were in the middle and "On Synchronicity" and "Answer to Job" were in the last part. OP or anyone else introducing themselves to Jung shouldn't skip those.

>>14097219
You are right, on synchronicity is important. However, you might want to be familiar with biblical stores in themselves before a response to them. I suppose it depends on what OP has read prior to this.

>>14097177
>why read the philosophers when we have school of life
Kys.

>>14096956
Don't. Psychoanalysis is bullshit and it is better not to fill your head with unscientific nonsense when there is a more accurate alternative (the rapidly expanding field of neurology).

>>14097295
They aren't mutually antithetical.

>>14097295
Not that empirical science is bad, but both neuroscience and modern psychology bury their heads in the sand when it comes to questions Jung is trying to answer. Ignoring the questions doesn't make them disappear.

>>14097295
Jung deviated from psychoanalysis fairly early on and established the field of depth psychology. If you want to get an understanding of psychology, neuroscience isn't enough. Although the events of the brain inform the psyche, you are looking at two different disciplines.

>>14096956
>Don't. Psychoanalysis is bullshit and it is better not to fill your head with unscientific nonsense when there is a more accurate alternative (the rapidly expanding field of neurology).

>>14097151
>For this, I would recommend Mircea Eliade's book or one by Marie-Louise von Franz.

On point, but reading as much Jung as you can can further illuminate others' work. This isn't an either/or this/not that situation. Marie-Louise von Franz can in turn give further insight into Jung.

Also I have to say, not reading Answer to Job, seriously? What are you thinking son?

>>14096956
The Undiscovered Self is a really great starting point for Jung. He shares professional and personal experience as to why it can be more advantageous to some to use his individuation concept as opposed to Freud and all of the other memes that have taken off since. It's a quick read.

>>14097151
>For this, I would recommend Mircea Eliade's book or one by Marie-Louise von Franz.
Or you could just read Psychology and Alchemy by Jung, if you're going to dive into that you may as well not dick around.

>>14097049
>it's reddit
woah, great arguments

>>14097619
>argument
Fuck off Reddit.

>>14096956
+1 to portable jung
also this
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWqv_8eLqnb4bxTV44QwvrQ/featured

>>14097049
Jung was capable of considering aspects of the unconscious that Freud deliberately avoided out the fear that rationalism would collapse, which he was right. And it inevitably will. bugmen do not "get" Jung because they are spiritually dead rationalists.