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because it sounds kind of like his favorite pupil, aristotle

His definition of a just society required hierarchy and a ruling aristocracy.

>>14064465
Because it is

Because his buddies were aristocrats

>>14064465
Because he was an aristocrat himself obviously. He was also a firm believer in mystical bullshit like essentialism and natural hierarchies.

>>14064465
just read evola

>>14064465
It's in the name

It's not like every polictical system we've tried until now degenerated into an aristocracy or anything...

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>>14065573
your materialist mindsets prevent your from understanding what he was talking about. true aristocracy isn't based off of bloodlines or wealth, but will be revealed via society conforming to the perennial truths. from there, and only from there, can people reach self actualization and discover their roles.

>>14065584
Sounds like something an aristocrat who believes his society conforms to the perennial truths would say

>>14065589
too bad that this society hasn't existed for a very, very long time, so your theory is kaput. nevertheless, in reaching this society, aristocracy would in sense be meritocratic.

>>14065584
A whole bunch of nonsense mystic wank. Aristocracy are a result of luck, circumstance and wielding superior resources like a weapon.

>>14065596
all im reading in this post is pure ideology.

>>14065584
>self actualization has anything to do with what the rest of the monkeys are doing

>>14065614
your epistemology is backwards. the state/collective presupposes the individual, and thus is a necessary component to reaching self actualization. you can follow the symbolism behind every ancient civilization and see this to be true - from europe, to the the near east, to siberia, to the far east, to precolumbian america.

>>14065602
Cope. Hierarchies are a result of increasing epigenetic distances due to self-perpetuating cycles of dearth and excess respectively, the initial imbalance being largely circumstancial like the one Grug's mother finding a nest of birds eggs while the other did not.

>>14065649
>epigenetic
meme

>>14065649
>pure ideology the post
i already addressed this. an aristocracy that formed from pure material reasons is in opposition to perennialism/idealism, and is therefore unjust.

>>14065656
watch as he tries to support his pseudoscience with a bunch of pop-science articles from 5 years ago.

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>>14065663
Cope, any other mechanism is tantamount to creationism.
>>14065659
Meaningless Calvinist nonsense.

>>14065675
>P U R E - I D E O L O G Y
you have no arguments, materialist. looks like reading chomsky didn't help you out after all.

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>>14065679
Fucking retard, there has never been nor will there ever be an aristocracy formed without an acquired material superiority.

>>14065716
>there has never been nor will there ever be an aristocracy formed without an acquired material superiority
notice how i said "formed from pure material reasons." of course material superiority is necessary to gaining power, but if they don't conform to the ideal, their rule involution and unjust. learn to read, assclown.

>>14065725
**their rule is involution and is unjust

>>14064465
Because he believes just government is only possible through wisdom, which involves a knowledge of the forms. For Plato, only a few are capable of such knowledge.

>>14065584
>perennial truths
This means nothing.

>>14065716
You mean having more wealth than others?

No, that’s stupid, you don’t need money or power to form a government. Just realize it won’t last very long because other people do have these things.

Moron. :3

>>14065584
which is why his society is based upon lies

>>14066150
>For Plato, only a few are capable of such knowledge.
why?

>>14065649
Why is Grugs mother finding eggs pure luck but Einstein being born a genius meritocratic? Unless you're saying its ALL luck but then thats a meaningless statement since you are agreeing in essence that as long as a hierarchy exists it will be an aristocracy since luck == merit.

>>14065649
Why only epigenetic? Would not persistent genetic divergence be even more influential in constituting hierarchies?