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Why didn’t we listen?

Those in power cover over the truth wherever they find it.

anarchism is retarded

>>14027021
Authoritarianism is retarded. It’s marching us right into extinction, fool.

>>14027011
>>14026850
cunterfly btfo

someone tell the retarded attention whore in this thread he's retarded I don't want to address him directly

>>14027011
>>14027025
You're retarded.
>>14027035
I got you bro.

>>14027050

Thanks lad

And THAT’S why we didn’t listen.

I might not be listening but I'm sure as hell not quoting you LALALALALALALADOREMIFASOLLASIDOGRATTEMOILAPUCEQUEJ'AIDANSLEDOS

Imagine the person who made that cartoon

>>14027025
>us
Correct. Not the authoritarians, though.

Authoritarianism is unironically bad

>>14027336
cringe

It's over

>>14027346
>Le follow the leader
i dont like butterfly just to clarify, but dogma is the bane of humanity

>>14027328
You wish

>>14027025
get fucked trannie
-> >>14027034

>>14027363
Keep reading your propaganda. It won't change anything in your favor, because it's unaesthetic and lame.

Wait he died? Didn't even know he was still alive

What a fucking abysmal thread

>>14027011
Kill yourself mothnigger

Because he acted irrationally and gave a totally unrealistic way of how we should change society

Does anyone know how to filter / hide a user ID, specifically the cunterfly?

>>14026999
>listening to a bitter virgin loser

>>14027328
Underrated!

>>14027025
You can't have a functional society without a state because you will get slaughtered by everyone who has a state as it's happened literally every single time a society has gone stateless.

>>14027549
you know the drill, thot

Am I the only one who finds these wojak comics extremely cringey?

>>14028977
Yes. Wojak and Pepes are the graphic manifestation of the 4chan soul: the Apollonian and the Dionysian.

>>14027025
No, it's free market that's marching us into extinction. We need a strong palm to squash the decadent capitalists destroying our planet.

>>14027669
>you cint hav majority rool. Noo nooooo.

>>14029034
“Free markets” fund states. End money, establish markets of freedom

>>14028977
100% agree.

>>14029016
100% wrong. They’re stale, dead memes well past their prime

>>14029355
>>you cint hav majority rool. Noo nooooo.
Majority rule in an anarchist society with no state helps out in wartime as your being invaded by 3 neighboring states how?

>>14029394
>yoo needs a stronk state to stop invasions
Wrong. States are what cause invasions

>>14029359
>They’re stale, dead memes well past their prime
Just like you, you 40 yr old tranny. I hope I'm not perpetually stuck browsing 4chan in my late 40s reccing the same 6 books. When I was a newfag I thought it was a pretty good meme but now it's just old.

>>14029409
>When I was a newfag I thought it was a pretty good meme but now it's just old.
What now?
Which six books?

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>>14029419
CAN YOU PLEASE FUCK OFF YOU STUPID FUCKING TRANNY MORON RETARD YOU ARE SO FUCKING STUPID I GET STUPIDER EVERY TIME I READ YOUR STUPID FUCKING POSTS DUMB RETARD NIGGER STOP SHITTING UP EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THREAD WITH YOUR RETARDED TRANNY STUPID DUMB FUCK IDIOCY

>>14029399
Agreed so what do you plan to do about the like 200 states in the world right now?

>>14029458
I can’t do anything by myself, anon. This is going to have to be a group decision.
I imagine we could ease into it. But I also imagine we have 80 to 110 years left

>>14029485
Yes we are going to ease into all 200 states becoming anarchist at the same time. Yes this is a realistic goal.

>>14029425
based

>>14029502
Didn’t even say that

>>14029523
So what's the plan then cause I'm a a leftie but I see no realistic solution.

>>14029569
Well ideally we hang you from a lamppost first

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>>14029523
KILL YOURSELF

I like technology

>>14027355
your autistic alternatives all lead to it
nature has leaders man fuck
the most virtuous societies had leaders that appealed to god
democratic and leftist societies have leaders that appeal to greed and power
fuck you

Hey old person-namefag, I really don't have anything against you but can't you see that your namefagging is derailing all the threads you're in? I know it's because of people obsessing over you, but since you're always in a lot of threads, it's really tiring. Please drop the namefagging, do it for the board. Do the right thing.

>>14026999
Maybe more people would take him seriously if he hadn't bombed innocent people. No matter how valid your arguments, a lot of people aren't going to take you seriously if you act like a violent lunatic.

>>14030203
no one would know about him at all if he wasn't a lunatic

>>14030206
He could have written a New York Times Bestseller.

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This is the first and last time I'm going to reply to you. You are the worst trip fag in the history of 4chan. Every thread you touch withers and dies. You never add substance to the topic discussed. Every post has this smug aura of self importance to it, "look everybody this is MY opinion", which probably is why you have no friends IRL. At a nice boring, cozy, house party I am sure the conversation dies after every remark you make. Every time you try to bring up Stirner in an unrelated discussion everybody sighs and tries to pretend they didn't hear you.

For the first time in my 10 years on 4chan I'm gonna look up how the filter function works. I find you worse than that german guy showing his cock asking to be humiliated, worse than eggman, worse than the groomer boasting on /fit/, worse than the perma spergs on /r9k/ and /pol/, worse than the schizos posting on /sci/. You're not even more vile than these creatures, those fundamentally broken humans wherein primordial evil has taken root, who by their honest shouts of rage ask to be healed, cleansed, or at least killed. The hate they garner is not against their persons but the image of evil they present. You dream to be this infamous beast, and revel in the slimy fame. The detest you garner from everybody on the other hand is an inversion of this. You are the 14 year old boy throwing a tantrum, believing his superior intellect to be neglected by his peers. But instead of having this vile personality bubble up from the tar of your gut, hating it more than your surroundings do, you willingly CHOSE to be this way by intellect instead of anima. You managed to kill the primal honest charm of being scum.

I know this post will not harm or change you. I took the time to write this because it is a rare opportunity to directly show your true detest to somebody. Don't bother replying because you're already filtered.

>>14030298
Based Anon.

I'm an ITfag and I know in my heart that Uncle Ted was right. Just going to work in the machine for a few more years to save up money so I can exit from society. Total destruction is the only end for it.

>tfw Ted could have been a preacher

>>14030298
I have that tripfag filtered so I never see posts but invariably I will see the post stub and I still feel that jolt of hatred. Mods should permaban.

>>14029409
>namefag has 20 years on you
>still more retarded than you
oh my god that's hilarious

>>14030298
kek
good post

>>14029569
Do what we can to convert and organize.
And prepare for a bunch of scared assholes who think we’re responsible for waning oil supplies and their ever lowering quality of life.
We introduce the alternatives as best we can without spooking the govt. like connecting preppers. Making communities of of them that reach into cities. Like, they want to destroy the public school system and turn out ever dumber kids. We make our own schools then

>>14026999
>muh based domestic terrorist
Go fuck a tree, you filthy mammy-earth worshiping Luddites.

>>14030298

Immediately knew who this was referring, good post anon.

>>14027355
>dogma is the bane of humanity
dogma is the principle that allows social animals to exist

>>14030742
>organise people to stop organising into states

>>14031175
anarchism will always be the funniest political stance

>>14031175
Organize to take care of ourselves. What’s the problem?

>>14031181
Until you read something on it

>>14030298
Go off king

>>14029502
It's supposed to be an end game goal when society is rational enough that the state whithers away

>>14030298
Good post. People should try not to reply to it. However, that’s never going to happen. I don’t hate the ideas butterfly has, but it’s presentation is usually just not fun. Don’t get me wrong, sometimes it is legitimately entertaining, but often times it lacks a certain self awareness and irreverence that makes it sour and often blasé.

>>14031307
So a group of people coming together for a goal... one could theoretically call it a state. Or maybe a corporation

>>14030528
please tell me how to filter that tripfag

>>14031722
Or a co-op, or a community, or a commune. The difference being there is actual democracy, justifiable hierarchies and non accumulative currency. This makes all the difference.

>>14032004
You can literally see my posts and ignore them. I haven’t the same luxury with your idiot posts.

>>14032050
can you please explain why you insist on using an ID on an anonymous forum?

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>>14029593

STOP GIVING IT ATTENTION, YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING IDIOTS.

Imagine if everyone would JUST IGNORE its posts. JUST FUCKING FILTER IT.
Board of idiots I swear. She(he(it) would have been long gone from here if not for you.

Except >>14030298 (you).
> I took the time to write this because it is a rare opportunity to directly show your true detest to somebody.
Based.

>>14030298
This is well written anon. You should write books and publish them instead of criticizing butterflies on 4chan though. There's a lot more worthwhile things to criticize out there.

>>14030742
Why do you think thats gonna have any impact on the global economy let alone be a noticeable thing in your country?

>>14032141
Why does it bother you so much?

Damned if i do and damned if I dont! Why dont you guys leave me any choice to act and be as i'd like to be. But since you don't, since you continue interfering with my existance i think it's wise to push back, to maybe lead a kind of counter attack against this systematic approach of undermining the reality of my being. You make me hear voices, so i will start talking louder than them. When you accelerate time and velocity of reality beyond the bearable i will start flailing my fists around, their punch will be three times more powerful in the least. And whenever you send me another bill i will get increasingly more into debt. I will play the debt-game to the absolute perfection, as to do as much harm as possible to those who make a living out of it. I will contact a vast variety of instant loan-offeration platforms and get thousands of bucks. I will use this to buy means of productions, which i will then hide in the forest. I may go into a prison but perhaps i will not because maybe i will get a 3d printer and create assault rifles to protect myself against the onslaught. I'm just putting this out here so that you guys are warned. You are fucking with me, but, and i'm growing increasingly assured of it while writing this, i will fuck you back at least three times as hard.

Damned if i do and damned if i don't! I find myself alone in this messy room of mine. It is quite late, no doubts about it, too late to still be up. But i'm alone and unhinged in my existance. When i lie down to sleep too early i feel electro shocks going through my head. I jump from fear, my heart starts racing and adrenaline goes pumping. I can not blame myself for this turn of events but only those who have shaped my life decisvely ever since i've come upon this earth. The State, bureaucrats, company people, my parents and my friends, if I am not too naive to assume i ever had any friends. Everyone has fucked me over and betrayed my trust, to the point, that a deep and destructive doubt has settled into the center of my being - this doubt first corrupted the image I had of myself, until there was no self left but a fluent mass of energetic currents that made me sway from left to right every single day. Reality tends to become a mess itself, if a mess is facing it, so my doubt on reality is continously growing with each day. If i stop I will die, if i continue i will get killed. What i mean? What i mean by saying that? When i lay down, i will lose my sleep. I will be up until the very morning, losing more and more of my grip on reality, as i am confronted helplessly with the entirely lack of substance to my being. And if i continue, i will consciously drive the nail deeper into my heart, radicalizing myself against myself and those who have perpetuated it. They are too many to name... I will not stop here, in case you asked, i'm only getting started again. I have only scratched the crust of my wound. Tonight will be a wild ride.

>>14033538
It distracts from conversation.

>>14033484
The global economy, as it is, is tearing the world apart. Capitalism no longer favors the US and is passing to China. Great big changes are coming and the working poor are going to be dropped like Detroit. The best way through that is to stick together. Establish a different economy right from underneath the old

>>14033564
Try having a conversation instead

>>14032262
>DO AS I SAY DO AS I SAY CONFORM! CONFORM!!!

>>14033586
>Try having a conversation instead
I can't when you're in the thread, you vapid cunt. You derail EVERY fucking thread on this board, just to get some attention.

Josh went down the stairs and entered the living room. Oh were the birds singing. Oh how nice is the summer sun shining into this lovely little home of ours, he sang and laughed and it echoed beautifully through the whole house. Just as Josh entered Jane jumped up and ran towards his very best friend Josh. "Oh Josh, it's you. My heart was filled with greatest happiness known both to man and woman, as i heard you exclamating joyfully how dear our beloved summer sun is to you. Your laughter reminded me of your smile, and i got absolutely giddy from excitement, as I anticipated that you would turn towards the living room and enter it. I imagined a wonderful day in your company, filled with merry laughter and delightful activities, such as picking flowers of the flower field near Lake Samuel. Josh was laughing from joy, as Jane said all of this to him and the two were united in their thorough love of life and living and the joys of being a human under the careful and loving guidance of our great father god. As Jane had stopped speaking she started blushing, feeling slightly ashamed of having been so explicit of her deepest joys, to the man, whom she secretly loved, and who had only moved into the J-Commune three months ago. And yet her heart was too pure to abstain from loving and enjoying all that was happening to her. She felt fulfilled and carried by god's most graceful hands into the highest spheres of human existance through her love of Josh, and Josh himself seemed angelic in his purity of feelings. His own love of Jane came naturally and without pretention or conscious design, it was an intuitive love of all her elegance, kindness flowerchildishness. Jane, who herself was more insecure, felt the touch of his love, but it was his carelessness that often made her doubt, and sometimes even led to her crying by herself at night, as she felt that such a careless love knew no obligations and could wither away if god's grace were to lower her fortune. All of her doubts dissipated at the sound of his voice and the shine of his uncanningly white teeth. And now she was whole. They both grabbed each other by the arms and started dancing in circles, laughing and screaming from joy. The dance got ever more intense, as it seemed that the world itself would have to burst at such a humane celebration of love. They turned quicker and quicker, blurring in the velocity of their movements, which was supported and aggravated by themself pushing each other with their arms in a circle. Gradually they transformed into a menacing whirlwind and started lifting off the ground. Jane started to feel afraid as her petit and naked feet started hovering over the earth, as she was twirled at incredibly high speed around but she did not dare to warn Josh as high laugh grew ever more excessive.
This unlikely scene of togetherness was observed by Johnnyboy Jingie, another member of the J-Commune, who had known Jane for half a decade now, and how's heavy and sorrowful heart lon

>>14033575
The poor don't give a shit about your workers cooperative. All they care about is walmart. Even at the height of socialism in the US it was just a blip. Nothing will change. You will have no effect. At your best it will be like the right wing militias around the US irrelevant crazies hoping for the race war

>>14033575
>The best way through that is to stick together.

What a joke. It's difficult enough get your relatives and friends to help you or cooperate with you, why would it be any easier with complete strangers?

>>14029355
>markets of freedum
Are you american?

>>14033677
>>14033701
I thank G-d every night for not being born a burger.

>>14033703
As in a market you can get food from at no costs.
I should have said “markets that are actually free” but I was in a hurry.

>>14033701
Hence why this is a very good idea.
>>14033677
>your workers cooperative
Their cooperatives. And they care about Walton Mart, they care about saving money
>>14033602
Anon “derails” to troll. That’s all Anonymous does.
Normal conversations take turns. Why don’t you know that?

>>14033851
>Their cooperatives. And they care about Walton Mart, they care about saving money
How do you expect to compete with overseas slave labor and low labor cost my dear butterfly

>>14033851
>And they DON’T care about Walton Mart, they care about saving money
Geez

>>14033857
Can’t make cars and cell phones at first. Fine. We ought to start with food stuff anyway.
You people with autism, bipolar disorder, allergies, suicidal tendencies, you’re probably feeling the effects of double doses of glyphosate in your food. Your mother ate it while you were in the womb and you likely eat it daily now. Clean food is a good start.

>>14033859

>The best way through that is to stick together. Establish a different economy right from underneath the old

I'm wondering.. perhaps you'd like to take a look at that new economic story.
.. How's your math?

>>14033884
Not following you.
But to help you out, I mean we ought to pay people in labor vouchers. In addition to the dwindling salaries they make.

>there's a million ways to make money via the internet today
>there's still a million ways to make money without the internet today
>"DEY TUK ER JERBS!"
Lots of mentally ill people flock to anarchism, it seems.

>>14033944
You never read Cockshott butterfly just because you post it doesn't mean you read it.

>>14033958
>The economy is fiiiiine. Its just all on the internet, honey. Surely you can think of something to sell therrrrre
t. Le Merchant

>>14033944

If you are around after January, I'll have a pre-publish recommendation for you but it requires a little math...is all I wanted to say.

Oh and thanks for the Hoffmann post. I ordered it today based solely on the cover.

>>14034032
Ah, I see now. Is that the title maybe. The New Economic Story?

>>14033972
>Its just all on the internet, honey.
Correct. Hundreds of billions — yes, billions — are being spent on Amazon. Why aren't you a seller yet? Or working for a seller?

..you're all fags go die

>>14034239
lel btfo

>>14030298
Holy fuck buttercuck on suicide watch

>>14034239
ur*

>>14034239
cringe

>>14030298
Based
>>14034239

The sneering images and gifs of attractive women is telling, it is as though butterfly poster is on equal footing with the images she posts, when in reality she is simply the opposite side of the coin when it comes to being a reclusive sexually repulsive starved weakling.

"Haaa, look at my laurelly air of having a taste in women that is above mere male fantasy, above all others and thoroughly unique and different! "

She worships this image of class when she cannot match the par. Why does she spend so much time on this board? Why does she post so often? What is she hoping to gain? Why are almost all her posts so thoroughly reductive and brainless quips? Why are all these brainless quips aired with superiority? Why is she such a seething bitch? Why is she so complacent? Why does she pretend to be more than she is? Why does she need to feel better about herself by feeding on negativity? Is intellectual degradation a means to feeding her neuroses? It's like she wants to be "part of the fuck-you-lit-boyz club" that just doesn't exist, because no one actually gives a shit. Every time I come onto /lit/ she is in almost every thread. She has no life and will probably dream about abusive relationships where she can secretly patronize her abuser. She sets a precedent of degeneracy wherever she goes and all the other trip fags here at least have some level of intellectual competency and a usual morbid taste to match it.

I'm honestly pretty sick of her, she needs to go go go

Just leave you dumb bitch

>>14034334
Wasn't even me

>look at my laurelly air of having a taste in women that is above mere male fantasy
Oh please. Stop projecting your insecurities

>>14034353
What I'm projecting doesn't change the fact that you obsess about a kind of femininity that is far removed from what you are, you're closer to an incel than the mystical images you fantasize about and I doubt you understand much at all about women

>>14034371
Who am I obsessing over? They're just reaction images. Truth is I find a wider range of women beautiful, I just don't have many pictures of them
>She worships this image of class
I despise the hauteur of the monied class
>brainless quips
Humor. There was a nice conversation going ITT just a moment ago, but you can't stand those.
>seething bitch
Projecting. Nasty people get a nasty reply. I'm not allowed? But I waste no time fantasizing about abusing anyone. I hate BDSM.
This is all weird projections, anon. You're a wreck.

>>14031307
Imagine being so useless. Even the most deranged anarkid should recognise that anarchism effectively became obsolete the moment the first nuke dropped.

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>>14030298
>aiming this sort of ordinance at anyone but Quentin
newfag alert

>>14030298
>worse than eggman
eggy is based you asshole

>>14034432
> hauteur
>humor
uhuh
>nasty reply
You can do whatever you want and it shows. Is saying I'm "projecting" your go-to method of deflecting any and all criticism? You're wasting your time talking down to the worst, CONSTANTLY, on a mongolian kitten punching forum probably because it makes you feel better about yourself, "lol look at all these losers that I'm better than". You're not any better, you're actually worse, whatever knowledge you gained from reading nietzdchr or whatever is wasted and you sound depressed. I'm just pointing it out, no need to attack me too. I've been observing you a lot longer than vice versa so calling me wreck is petty.

I don't know. It's tough existing in a sense where you don't listen. But when you don't listen, do you hear people say you should listen? You probably don't. To not listen is to exist in a certain way where there are real downsides and those should be considered. I believe not listening brings about some types of cancer. It is the top cause of depression. The first hot bed of lepers came about when a person didn't listen. This is regrettably always occurring in humanity. It's conceivable humans can't learn at all. lol The more listening, the better. How do you get someone to have listened? What gets a person there?

>>14030298
i'd like to subscribe to your newsletter

>>14031118
brute forcing "apple is blue, not red" as absolute truth is not life affirming anon. Academia and truth searching is what allows us to thrive because we can agree nonetheless that 1 + 1 = 2. Religion used to work a lot better back when syncretism was accepted, but problems arise when people started killing each other because they couldn't accept that one person just thought Superman could beat Goku

>Q. But the suburbs, like television, are merely neutral, and can be used for good or bad. The problem is sin. Attack sin, not suburbs!

>A. It is precisely to attack sin that one attacks modern suburbs, because their way of life favours sin. Their softness and comfort favour sensuality (Second Sorrowful Mystery). The anti-socialness and independence of their way of life favour pride (Third Sorrowful Mystery). True, television is in theory neutral, but not in practice. As installed in the (suburban or modern city) home, it strongly tends to be misused, discombobulating mind, will, the sense of reality, activeness, humanness, and family. Similarly the suburbs in practice strongly tend to discombobulate human beings. Listen to the Rock musicians, voice of now two alienated generations (1960’s to 1990’s). This alienation cannot go on.
>-Bishop Williamson

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>>14034823
>>14031118
To add on to this, we may have our own personal opinions because (subjective experiences will never go away), but the way humans are able to get along with each other are from academia (we can all agree that 1+1=2) and we can settle things that are opinionated through art.

>>14034823
>>14034921

How many genders are there?

>>14034823
also forgot to add that it isnt only knowledge seeking that mediates us, but opinionated things and subjected experiences can always be settled through creating and experiencing art

>>14034938
Does power does a paper bill have over your life? Even if everyone believed in more than one gender, humans are not so oblivious as to stop reproducing because of the fact remains that male and female are still essential. Eventually it'll boil down to this, so no matter how much you believe in spooks it wouldn't radically alter nature.

It's like a preference in words, but it's just that some people think that certain phrases or synonyms are better. That's Dogma

>>14034957
ignore the 1st sentence

>>14027011
What if it's not "the truth" you stupid fucking nigger? Huh? What if it's not? What do you have to say you pathetic fucking retard? Huh? What do you have to say? You don't even know what gender you are, why the fuck should anyone listen to you about anything if you can't even figure out the first true thing you ever learned? Huh? What are you gonna say? "A BLOO BLOO EVERY SHOULD PUSH THEIR DICK INSIDE OUT JUST LIKE ME AN WE'LL ALL BE EQUAL A BLOO BLOO!" Huh? Why the fuck should anyone take you seriously? You're brain is plastified and it shows in the fact that you're constantly getting btfo in every thread. Huh? What are you possibly going to enumerate here that's worth listening to? Huh?