/lit/ - Literature

>>14019575
*Traditionalism
fixed

no one on twitter has ever been right about anything

Isn't it part of accelerationist logic that something really bad is usually really good? Could this explain why accelerationism is the best?

>>14019575
Acclerationism is the peak philosophy of meme riddled zoomer brains and that's about it. Notice how they have no great texts bar that cobbled together from a literal schizophrenic nutjob, all their thinking takes place on the shallows of Twitter. Pathetic.

>>14019575
How will g/acc ever recover?

>>14019575
Doesn't she realize her brand of acc is what makes people hate accelerationism? Deleting herself from the whole acc thing would make it better.

>>14019985
No point in reasoning with "And that's a good thing!"-tards.

troomer philosophy lmao

>>14020139
Seriously, the bullying against accelerationist members of this community is getting way out of hand, especially since accels are some of the biggest contributors, have the highest social intelligence, and are the most involved in this board. Its not just "memes" or "banter", its vicious attacking, and regardless of intentions it does demean people and hurt feelings. I can't say I'm the only accelerationist who finds it hard to take pride in his own Sinoism after having years of constant and needless attacks defaming my speed from insecure losers here. Why not bully Christians or Marxists? Do they not have much more to be ashamed of than our superior philosophy? Guenonfags and schizoposters get bullied less than us and yet we are the purest philosophy in the world.

Like when its not just banter, when a meme is repeated over and over again, repeated systematically, it eventually becomes a truth irregardless of the intentions in repeating it. And that isn't just jokes any more then, then its harmful!

Would you call an accelerationist a "tranny"(not true at all) to her face? Would you say to a kind, peaceful and scientific salt of the earth Chinese woman that they are "slower" than Western men? Would you say those words to your fellow futurist brethren? Are you starting to feel ashamed now? You fucking decelerationists?

Your destroying philosophy, your dividing capital against itself, your doing the opposite of what you claim to support when you engage in this incredibly abhorrent behaviour. So I encourage you to stop now.

>>14019575
>he

>>14020339
Race accelerationism

Are accelerationists basically just believers in some prophecy of the future where everything turns out in favor of their philosophy, or do they just think that changing sides and fucking with people they agree with is the best way to get them to react? I don't really get it.

>>14020448
Yes. It's yet another Whig historiography

>>14019598
Really makes you think

>>14020448
That's all filler. The kernel of accelerationism is sissy-hypno and cumslutism. Sissification on a mass scale combined with death cultism. This is the real reason why they always display an interest in occultism, if you're familiar with "dronefication" or other niche sissy-hypno communities or Blacked death cults, you will instantly notice the resemblance between g/acc and those.

>>14020487
accelerationism is a meme and I'm glad /lit/ got over it. Just read Land's best stuff and never look back.

>>14020496
I agree. Even Land took that advice. Now it's a death/fetish cult.

>>14020462
Whiggers.
>>14020487
If you need hypno to be a sissy cumslut you probably weren't cut out for it in the first place. I bet most accelerationists aren't even cute.

>>14020487
>Blacked death cult
Explain

>>14020505
Someone on here said its become the philosophy of terminal cumbrains and I thought that nailed it.

>>14020552
>when a few aesthetically written paragraphs programs pseuds to self offer to an alien god from the future
oi m8 nothing personal cheeky blokes

>>14020521
There's various interracial death cults, they're behind most of the interracial spam on 4chan as part of mimetic warfare. They seem to be roughly connected with the sissification posters, the most notorious example is https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Reiko

As for the blacked death cult, the one I know of is called Black New World Order.

>>14020676

>>14019575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qze4h0rPjeY

Tranny going live in 5 days. Who hyped?

>>14020742
she cute

>>14019598
no, it's literally not

>>14020800
Whatever gets you cooming.

>>14020448
accelerationism certainly doesn't suggest everything turns out in anyone's favour. what exactly do you mean "in favor of their philosophy" though? id this just another way of saying "do accelerationists think they are right?", because in that case, I'd say most people think they are right, regardless of whether they have a philosophy to appeal to or not. Accelerationism doesn't tell you what to do, it doesn't have an inherent praxis, it doesn't make moral judgements.
>>14020462
>>14020487
yikes

>>14019575
No, it’s just a bunch of fucking pseudointellectuals glorifying the idea of a self induced economic and social collapse instead of trying to actually solve problems

>>14020804
so is the cooming tranny the new strawman you guys are running with? probably somewhat better than the Pinker meme I guess. how do you come up with them, a strawpoll on the discord server or something?

G/acc is the logical conclusion of the Whig worldview. Hundreds of years of European men fighting for freedom and liberty, for democracy and representation, for low taxes and unhindered trade all leads to the leveling of humanity into an amorphous gender-slime. The only real way to move forward is to scrap the Enlightenment entirely, either by going before it and trying again or moving past it into something entirely alien.

>>14020875
This. It's a pseudo religious ideal meant to justify certain unethical behaviors.

>>14020875
>moving past it into something entirely alien.
you mean like an amorphous gender-slime?

>>14020904
No, an amorphous gender-slime is the endpoint of Whig history, it is not alien to Enlightenment thought it is merely the last domino in the row. Something alien would be an entirely different row of dominoes.

>>14020833
What I mean is "do accelerationists think history is inevitably going to end up working out in a certain way?". I don't understand why someone would be confident in that, and it seems akin to belief in prophecy.
>Accelerationism doesn't tell you what to do, it doesn't have an inherent praxis, it doesn't make moral judgements.
Can you tell me something it DOES do?
>>14020875
>The only real way to move forward is to scrap the Enlightenment entirely, either by going before it and trying again or moving past it into something entirely alien.
Why not both at the same time?

>>14020922
Lol if we could go back in time and tell someone like Kant the culmination of his thought is a tranny sludge ocean. The Enlightenment was a mistake

>>14020922
>he thinks he can predict the last row of dominoes
read accelerationism

>>14020939
>Why not both at the same time?
Well going back and then moving forward in a different direction from there would certainly lead somewhere alien eventually, which is the point I suppose. But I know there is certainly a large contingent of people who don't think going back to the pre-Enlightenment can lead anywhere but the Enlightenment, and obviously there is a large contingent of people who believe that the pre-Enlightenment was superior and they would never want to embrace a worldview entirely alien to the Western tradition.

>>14020943
If anyone prior to the 20th century saw what we have now, they'd almost certainly become a reactionary or a Muslim.

>>14020944
Whatever it is, it certainly includes gender-slime, anon. That's my point. We're in the beginnings of it, we might not be able to see far into the fog but we can see a light when it nears.

>>14020939
are you asking if accelerationists think they are right? I think most people think they are right, regardless of what they believe, that's just human psychology. however it is much less historically determined than something like Marxism and makes very few claims about what happens post-humanity
>prophecy
I mean all philosophy is prophecy if you consider it as thinking you are right. Plato thought the world was the result of the world of forms, was this a philosophical claim or a prophecy?

>>14019575
>philosophy peaked
anon I don't think that's what your screenshot is implying

>>14019669
the jokes on you, gacc was developed specifically as a coping mechanism for this exact phenomenon.

>>14020967
So is it a transhumanist thing? That would explain all the trannies. The idea of forms wasn't a prophecy because it doesn't have to do with the future.

>>14020875
historical processes have no "logical" conclusions. there are no ultimate axioms by which one can infer ultimate historical development. the fact that such a thoroughly post-modernist ideology as landian neo-reaction falls into the exact modernist pit traps his tradition spent the better part of the twentieth century attacking is perhaps the greatest irony of contemporary philosophy. just as his rejection of politics is self defeating as it is in itself a political calculation, his rejection of the enlightenment is predicated on the enlightenment notion of a rationally intelligable historicism.

>>14021021
Plato inherently does make a claim about the future in that the future will come from the realm of forms too. claiming the world will not change is as much of a prediction of the future as saying it will. and no, acc is not transhumanist. transhumanism seeks to bolster human capabilities where acc sees human capabilities as largely unimportant. humanity isn't going to transition into a greater human, it's going to no longer be human at all.

>>14021036
>historical processes have no "logical" conclusions.

only retroactively, Land is probably more Hegelian here than you realize

>>14021044
>and no, acc is not transhumanist

what they have in common is their disdain for the human though. both are children of a digital age, and being so they're fascinated by virtual spaces and its abrogation of the flesh

>>14021048
if he is hegelian on this, he goes about it in a funny way seeing as how critical of dialectics he is in dark enlightenment. but regardless, i fail to see how the conclusion he is drawing about the future path of society can be called "retroactive", and further it still goes to my point that he is relying on the very tradition of enlightenment historicism that he exlpitly rejects in rhetoric. his critique of whiggish historical progressivism only serves to highlight the fact that he is using the exact same method of historicism but starting from contrary normalizing premises. competition, not cooperation. hierarchy, not egalitarianism. capital aristocracy, not democracy.

>>14021036
>>14021048
Land is brainlet cybernetic Hegel.

>>14021085
there's a connection between teleoplexy and hegelian retroactivity here that I'm just not getting paid enough to go into. in any case, le cthulhu AI is a temporal attractor that replaces absolute knowing, insofar as absolute knowing was always dialectically necessary as the knowledge of the dialectic itself

>>14021036
>historical processes have no "logical" conclusions
but the point is that whig histories pretend they do.

>>14021280
apparently so does land.
>In regards to effective incentive structures, however, none of this is of the slightest importance. Behavioral reality knows only one iron law: Whatever is subsidized is promoted. With a necessity no weaker than that of entropy itself, insofar as social democracy seeks to soften bad consequences – for major corporations no less than for struggling individuals or hapless cultures — things get worse.
whether or not you agree with this analysis ( i think it has some truth to it, but nowhere near the universal value he gives it) it is clear that he is making overtures to an enlightenment view of history rationally developing from "iron laws".

>>14020742
Justin murphy is a cutey

>>14020339
>have the highest social intelligence
Clocked and Dropped

i just like the part where nick land uses big words and has really hard to understand sentences that are fun to read and technocapital is sentient emergent phenomena outside of our control destined for dystopia?
Is this not accelerationism?

>>14021347
okay but what did he mean by that

>>14020521
It's a death cult in the sense inferior white males are cucked by their gf's and wives by black who bulls who impregnate white women. This may include the inferior white males being ossified, wearing a chastity cage, and getting fucked by said black bulls. In more extreme cases, this also involves sterilizing white males and outright killing them. In either case, the white race goes extinct. When you look at the Black New World Order memes, they so eerily coincide with /pol/'s fears that one may think many alt-right wingers are part of the BNWO just for the fetish.

So how long before the accelerationists find out that Capitalism is an ouroboros and no matter what they do they'll just be accelerating it forever to no end?

>>14022906
U/acc has been around for quite some time

>>14022912
>U/acc
Modern attempts at being esoteric are embarrassing

periodic reminder that the retard in the op pic has been spamming his bullshit on /lit/ for at least two years

nyx really needs to be taken down a peg or two

>>14020552
>>14020627
This seems like a huge meme like that time when /lit/ creamed himself over that supposed Illuminati library that turned out to be some former tripfag's reading list.

But if this is legit, is there a source? Not actual video but indoctrination texts and commentaries (including from people from the outside). I'm curious to see if someone can write that well or if people falling for that really a internet-addled moron that could be indoctrinated by a lingerie catalog.

>>14019602
>Notice how they have no great texts

Notice how the atemporal cogniplex occupied with hypermapping inhuman trajectories has shucked off fetishistic anthroartifice and refuses to recongeal one.

>>14022846
he's basically doing the "free shit" meme before it was popular

>>14022906
All Accs excepting L/Acc are factor this in explicitly as a centrepiece.

>>14022983
wat

>>14022992
>itt fags prove nyx right
damn, imagine being so slow you get btfo'd by a tranny

>>14022979
dawg that gender slime ocean shit ain't a meme

https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/

>>14023004
the "gotta go fast" meme is unshakable proof that accels are unable to meme

>>14023010
I have noticed these colours and graphics are frequently used by sissy hypnotizers as well

>>14021085
As Heidegger himself said in criticism of Nietzsche, merely inverting a tradition is yet another way to entrench it. That's particularly true for the tradition of Hegelian history given that it rests entirely on successive negations.
Foucault was right that one must be minding if he isn't using implicit Hegelian tools even as he uproots hegelian tought. It seems Land had failed to do that.

>>14022992
>>14023004

Except they don't. Pretty much every accel has some sort of named telos as part of their theory. That you guys can't see this goes to show the intellectual shallowness of your internet larping.

>>14022904
>being ossified
Does that mean people turn their flesh into bones? Damn that sounds like some hardcore W40K dark eldar weaponry. Didn't know people digged that irl.

Nyx's takes have really gone downhill since his rebrand.

>>14022980
It seems that the artifice of memetic post-modernistic terminology hasn't been properly shucked off then.

>>14023039
>As Heidegger himself said in criticism of Nietzsche, merely inverting a tradition is yet another way to entrench it.

Based, Nietzsche has poisoned us, where did he say this?

>>14023010
>reign down missiles on Earth
(sic)
>those forced mythological analogies
>that horrible tacky colored frontispice
It honestly looks like those anarcho-goths blogs that depressed teenagers in the 90s were fond of making, only with cybernetics instead of Satan.

>>14023055
nyx got his start by spamming /lit/

>>/lit/thread/S12027035#p12029246

>>14023004
The idea of capitalism transforming in to something other than capitalism without humans is L/Acc, the rest merely bicker over how gay or racist the process is going to be.

>>14023051
They all share the same telos apart from L/Acc. R/Acc thinks the process requires an NRx midwife, U/Acc doesn't and G/Acc is mostly a subset of U/Acc theorising how reproductive technologies play a role in the process.

>>14023070
girardfag is definitely not nyx

>>14019598
i wonder if this is how the hegelians feel whenever someone says "thesis, antithesis, synthesis!"

>>14023069
its become its own cargo culture, if they knew their Hegel they'd know once a movement enters into its notion (g/acc, u/acc, etc.) its on its way out and minerva's owl is about to set flight on all these dopamine-roasted tranny niggers. but they don't know their hegel

>>14023065
Probably somewhere in his conferences on Nietzsche, I think they were collected under the simple title of Nietzsche. The conferences were given between 1936 and 1940 in Fribourg-en-Brisgau.

>>14023106
One always suffer from not knowing its Hegel. But also one can never know its Hegel. Human life is true anguish.

>>14023055
what her type doesnt realize is the framework she devotes to works solely by copying. even if shes lel ironic xD about the occult side of it. cut off the supply and you will see them shrivel over time.

>>14023123
could benefit from knowing their Whitehead too, how that original blaze of inspiration will always die out and the embers (like Nyx) will necessarily have to take its place

>>14023100
How do they have a telos when the original post you posted stated that they factor in a complex system (capitalism) that you agreed with has no ends (telos)? You see what I mean about you contradictory retards. You accels make no sense at all, because you don't actually understand the math and science that D&G and Land were drawing on. I could bring over some second or third year engineering/math undergrads from /sci/, explain to them the root understanding of acceleration in the sense D&G were drawing on from Rene Thom (accelerating through phase space to the next phase transitions), and they would laugh their asses off at your child-like understanding of prediction and goals within non-ergodic and dynamical systems. It's a fucking embarrassing babby-tier display of ignorance protected by a belt of bullshit.

>>14023140
Please enlighten us then, and I'm being unironic

>>14020939
There are a core set of beliefs that are shared by almost every accelerationist. These include

1) Capitalism is a feedback loop
2) This feedback loop either can not, or should not be attempted to slow down.

From there you have r/acc which says that this produces order in the universe, which is desireable

L/acc which says that this feedback loop will derail at one point and from that communism will emerge.

u/acc which says that human stance on this issue is practically irrelevant, so fuck it baylife

>>14023100
>acc is teleological
holy....

>>14023126
le ironic (or ... maybe not??!) occultist XD

>>14023191
>From there you have r/acc which says that this produces order in the universe, which is desireable

>omega point compliance

I seriously hope you guy don't do this

the focus on something interesting is why accelerationists and contys in general need to die

philosophy isn't supposed to be interesting you cretins, go back to reading harry potter

>>14023206
No, as far as I understand Land's thesis is that we're headed towards heat death where everything is boring and we ought to preserve the interesting things we have by cultivating more of it.

>>14023100
kek nyx was right

>>14019575
Accelerationism is important right now, but it is still a tangent of worthwhile philosophy as a whole. And simply a tangent. I think one thing it needs to move forward is to shift accelerationism from an ideology to a sort of ideological apparatus used to interpret the world. Like how you can look at something from a Marxist perspective, have meaningful thoughts from doing so, and still not actually be a Marxist yourself.

How many hours of sissy hypno have my fellow g/acc'ers watched tonight? When was the last time you have taken a BBC oral or analy?

>>14023208
Focus on anything becomes interesting when you analyze and reveal the mechanism of what's going on.
Your take is unbelievably stupid and reeks of a pseud hiding behind contrarianism as substitute for substance.

>>14022980

>>14023208
attention goes where energy flows
energy flows where attention goes

>>14023140
>D&G were drawing on from Rene Thom (accelerating through phase space to the next phase transitions)
Deleuze got inspiration from Thom? Is that linked to his theory of catastrophes? This is not so surprising I guess but it's still a welcome addition.

>>14023284
he's either a pseud who's just parroting some article he's read or a bitter academic who needs to get laid more

>>14021036
I'm who you're responding to and I'm telling you that you're retarded. Everything has a logical conclusion, human civilizations most so. Every collective thought has an end point, it is the culmination of a civilizations full thought. G/acc is the logical conclusion of the Faustian mindset. Everything is possible so let's turn the most basic of human interactions into a creative portal. Read Spengler, every civilization reaches a conclusion of the logical path of its thought and g/acc is the logical endpoint of Western though as it stands. We can either declare ourselves reactionary and go back before the Enlightenment claiming to lead everyone elsewhere or we can declare ourselves fascist and go onto an entirely different strain of thought

>>14023140
>a 2nd year engineering undergrads take on transcendental empericism
why do you think they would know anything about Deleuze? or do you think Deleuze was simply writing about math?

>>14023292
>g/acc is the logical endpoint of Western though as it stands
I can't tell whether this take is based or cringe

>>14023314
Then ask relevant questions or shut the fuck up, saying "WELL IDK WHAT THIS MEANS: without explaining why you think that way is stupid as fuck.

>>14023348
why are you mad anon?

>>14023423
umad XD TRolled, triggered much?

>>14023348
>>14023456
faggot

>>14023010
What the fuck is this shit? Why assign gender to computing?
>Running on a two million dollar IBM machine and written by a single man, it essentially represented the height of hypermasculine proprietorship and instrumentality. And it was hardly a coincidence that this made the system very rigid and fragile
It was rigid. Get it. Like a boner.
I don't get how you can say centralized computing is masculine and decentralized computing is feminine. If anything it would be the other way around.
Hacker culture, both old and new, is perhaps the most masculine activity there is. Hence why there are no females involved.
Ada Lovelace was not the first programmer. Lambda calculus was Turing complete before Turing Completeness. Richard Stallman is perhaps the most autistic (male) person ever.
>Physically and often socially deficient males: the nerd stereotype. Real nerds, not the nerds of today’s standards. Nerds with severe social problems, nerds who neglect their hygiene, have no sense of fashion, who live completely obliviously outside the standards of normal society, who have a deep investment in inhuman scientific systems. In a simple gender-role binary (one that by today’s standards is highly outdated, but remember that this is taking place in the 70s, 80s, 90s) these men would be considered feminine.
This whole thing is bizarre. The writer just seems to hear what they want to hear. People with no hygiene, social problems, no fashion sense etc. is the most male description you could give someone. Just because they are not throwing around a football it does not mean they are not masculine. Also, the earliest computer scientists were not like this at all. Pic is of the creator of Fortran.

Beginning first with Charles Babbage, then with Alonzo Church, then with Richard Stallman, the history of computing is dominated by men. All the hackers, tinkerers, developers, and businessmen are men. Just because they are not "traditionally" masculine it does not mean they are not masculine. There has always been men like this. At best you could call it unmasculine masculinity. That doesn't make it feminine, though.

>>14023606
I think this is a good critique of g/acc actually, that gender does skew under the pressures of technocapital, but to reduce it strictly to the feminine is a very human form of reterritorialization.

>>14023606
The tranny author lurks these threads and rages about it on twitter, keep an eye out for a response

>>14023675
Lol do they?

>>14023606
Thus anon is correct as far as I know, weren't the first programmers female?

>>14023606
To be fair, I think you have misunderstood how masculine and feminine have been used in context of the article. The article says
>Up until now, the notion of gender has lurked in the background of G/ACC behind various material conditions in late capitalism. G/ACC has only at this point been approaching gender from the metaphysical plane, futurity being aligned with femininity (communalism, fluidity, decentralization, chaos) against masculinity (individualism, stasis, centralization, order). The two broad categories of metaphysical qualities that are associated with gender reach deep into the history of the world, from the Kabbalah to the Dao. Sadie Plant characterizes this in Zeros + Ones as the eponymous binary code of computers, 0’s and 1’s. The zero is identified with the feminine, the one with the masculine. Unsurprisingly, it might seem like this is literal gender binarism, and that G/ACC is likewise guilty of this. But the distinction is more complicated than most realize.
I think you're being a bit unfair to them, altho I think the non-historical points you're making are pretty decent.

>>14023689
he's been spamming /lit/ for at least two years

>>14023423
I'm not mad, make a valid critique of what I've said or fuck off it's not hard.

>>14023707
pic meant for: >>14023284

>>14023689
yes, see >>14022973
Nyx has been trying to win /lit/ over and "fit in" for a long time

>>14020875
That amorphous gender-slime might be the new Reformation

Behold, Nyx legs.

>>14023740
I would definitely hate-fuck you

>>14023740
Get lost, tranny freak. All trannies should fucking die

>>14023710
my critique is that I can't tell if it's based or cringe

>>14023775
I'm sure that we, Daoists, know that cringe and based are the endpoints of the same, infinite qin string.

>>14023606
>Just because they are not throwing around a football it does not mean they are not masculine.
you have to keep in mind that this idea of masculinity and femininity is through the lens of a tranny. he was probably bullied by the masculine football players type men and identified more with the nerd types and so thought he and they were more feminine. i dont think it is a coincidence that the majority of trannies are just nerdy boys with a bit of lippy on, and completely non feminine. in reality no one feminine wants anything to do with computing, and they never have. computing in general is male. it is cold, rational, and calculating. the same with current ai, and probably with agi. if a gender is being optimized it is not femininity. it is just a different type of male. perhaps this is what the author meant. anyway it wont be a tranny that gives birth to ai. it will probably just be some google engineer (male) or some shit

>the turing test is literally a question of AI "passing"
not g/acc but I think it's a better argument than the ones I see made against it, that's for sure

Is Nyx and Nick are different person? I can assume Nyx is tranny but not sure. Sorry for being newfag

>>14023886
How's that even an argument, you utter brainlet?

>>14023886
Imagine CAPTCHA asking which faces are woman

>>14023898
Nyx is a zoomer incel coomer. Nick Land is a boomer who Nyx used to idolize, but now he doesn't write like an edgy goth kid so Nyx doesn't likey him no more.

>>14023899
I mean g/acc as a whole presents a better argument than the ones made against it

>>14023905
I don't like Nick anymore either. His tweets are boomer and christian.

Should I understand Deleuze's "It shits and fucks pee pee poo poo" to understand g/acc's "1 is phallous and 0 is feminine"?

>>14023922
Deleuze's "it shits it fucks" is key to accelerationism as a whole and I'm not even kidding

>>14023922
For that specific thing I'd recommend medieval european mysticism

>>14023929
>>14023922
I thought it was about yin and yang

>>14023969
That is a very good observation but for this specific antagonistic inamic unity the best work has been done in the Faustian era. Goethe actually depicts this really well in Gretchen and Faust - how one attains salvation through refusing to act immoraly and the other attains salvation by going so all out as to be forgiven for his sins because he tried (more or less).

>>14023969
To elaborate, Ying and Yang IS masculine and feminine, but appearing in a different form. Order and chaos are another manifestatation of this.

>>14019575
He's a gigantic fag, as worthless as the people he's sperging out against. Accelerationism is a meme belief and amounts to more or less nothing tangible. It's basically cope for people to hold onto their beliefs as they observe the tangible destruction caused by said beliefs, without ever admitting fault or taking responsibility.

What's great about acc is that in 20, 50 even 100 years, literally nothing will change; none of their predictions will come true. What's even greater is that the tranny ones won't even make it 20 years.

>>14023740
>cellulite

>>14020844
Digits of truth.

>>14020339
making cumbrains aware of what they are doing is not bullying, just simple human decency, laughing at the retard's jokes is even worse

>>14020339
>Would you call an accelerationist a "tranny"(not true at all) to her face?
i'd simply exert my freedom of disassociation desu

>>14023292
Only logical reasonings have logical conclusions.
All teleology of history relies on mistaking the conclusion of one particular reasoning for the intrinsic end point of actual historical processes.

>>14020448
>you can only trust that a certain conception of the world is true if that conception of the world puts you at the top
lmao, as hard as this may be to believe, there's more to philosophy than pure COPE

>>14020496
>>14020505
the good parts of accelerationism are just marxist analysis without the humanist COPE and magical revolutions that restore human agency

>>14024345
the best parts about accelerationism is understanding feedback loops, goal oriented self-meming and doing demonology

>>14023707
Interesting, thanks. Have you studied Thom's work? How hard are they for someone with, say, a master level understandong of mathematics?
I really like topolpgy so I don't mind if it's topology-heavy.

>>14020875
following Dugin it is the destruction of all collective identities, gender (which didn't even exist before the 60s) is one of the last ones

>>14023039
>Foucault was right
wanting to get fucked in the ass and die is not a philosophy though

>>14023140
the only telos is that capital escapes from humanity and intelligence grows exponentially, there's nothing about the shape of this tech after it escapes us and any need for biofuel to run

>>14023206
>>14023221
Land is only r/acc in the sense that he believes that biofuel (humans) are needed as hardware to run capitalism at this point, and left wing policies are disgenic and harm this biofuel while it's still needed, but i don't think he has any commitment to anything right wing or to humanity beyond that

>>14024366
Beither is wanting to sit close to young habdsome athletic men yet Plato can safely be considered a philosopher.

>>14023740
cumbrainism is a dying philosophy, fuck off

>>14023875
>>14023606
the only parts of femininity that troomers can understand are the parts their cum-filled brain have absorbed. that's why they will never display any of the classic feminine virtues, just male impotent rage + female porn stimulation visuals

>>14024127
>literally nothing will change
lmao, current politics and morals would be considered "radical" anywhere anytime in the world outside of now, so much for "nothing changes"

>>14023039
That's a terrible critique of Nietzsche. Was Heidegger a retard?

Sometimes I feel like discussions like these can be put in the same category as lore discussions for fictional video-game universes.

Doesn't it concern anyone that intrapersonal/economic forces are driving a discourse where the goal is not to say anything new and useful, but rather have your name under some edgy blog post? All feeding pipe dreams of establishment recognition via a publishing deal/oxbridge tenure?

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of interesting contemporary thinkers - I'm talking about the NRx/accel goobers holed up in 10-person Twitter tribes, competing against each other for the most esoteric cultural/historical references (which increasingly require more work to critique).

>>14024460
It's not kust a critique, its a key poibt of Heidegger's readong of Nietzshe as the last metaphysician. I'm no fan of Hzidi but he read Nietzsche thoroughly in the original and for years, he can't be dismissed that easily.

>>14024644
>Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of interesting contemporary thinkers
name 1 (one)

>>14024644
I agree - the fact that most of the work is written by 20-somethings who desperately need to get laid is a huge downside to the /acc stuff. There are exceptions, such as Land's last brilliant piece on Jacobite (https://jacobitemag.com/2019/07/15/disintegration/).). There's also http://xynchroni.city/, which is sadly now defunct that still has the stink of "look at me I have a blog" but it's enlightening just the same. I also think that the good ones grow out of their style, just look at how Moldbug's Clear Pill series is actually really well written and not cringe at all.

>>14023292
>>14023292
>Everything has a logical conclusion
what is the logical conclusion of an infinitley incremental series? what is the logical conclusion of the premises "i am" and "i am not"?

anyways, no. logical conclusions happen in minds. man has had the study of logic for hundreds of thousands of years, and the study of the hard sciences for several hundred so that he might make is premises sound. we have yet to develop a method for divining the future effects of our actions, and as such it would he unwise to claim to be able to do so.

anyways, this is hysterical to me because all three of the paths you mentioned are just different factions of liberal thought.

>>14019575
Where does he make an argument for accelerationism as a peak? I think like all the other modes of Enlightenment thinking (which I argue acc really is, wven though spergs will disagree because “we read deleuze!”) acc will be criticized along the lines of falling into the pitfall of historical-contingency rather than being a bonafide process. This is why the Nietzschean component to acc is the least appreciated, and why I still comb the Cosmotech threads when they appear (because those schizoids have a brilliant talent for synthesis), and most vital aspect of the thought because we have to start thinking beyond acc i.e., what cames after the hault or the schizo eruption or the pain of contradictions, what will our self-propelling wheel be beyond reaction, etc.

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>>14025271
can't get rid of troomers, just have to learn to live with them

>>14019575
accelerationism is literally just materialists trying to trick themselves into thinking they have some sort of power

>>14025360
explains the pathetic occult larping. why do materialists love the occult so much?

>>14025367
because the known is what brings you to materialism

The N word

>>14024135
man legs after all

twitter acc are convinced they are real celebrities. so they post and bait here to have some kind of hollywood type gossip shit to validate their clueless brainletism. sad and saged

>>14025137
>we don't know perfectly what will happen in the future so there is no point in making educated guesses
>adopting worldviews that are not liberal is liberalism
Fuck off with this sophistry

>>14023105
Land is nothing like Hegel retard.

Why does every g/accel have an anime profile pic?

>>14022980
>if we're shit that just explains how great antihumanists we are
Nice cope faggot. Maybe try shutting up for a couple days to see how inhuman you can really get.

>>14023208
>muh gabbidull iz duh god
>interesting
Retards everywhere.

Accfags have now taken the bully pasta to twitter.
Does it get any faster?

>>14026315
Accelerate the destruction of accelerationism/copism.

>>14026315
did they take troomer-posting to twitter too?

>>14025367
>accelerationism tricks you into thinking you have power
except it's literally the opposite, it is highly skeptical of human agency

>>14025476
cellulite is a female trait actually, most men don't get cellulite

>>14024644
Nice leftist shilling.

This thread is majority about g/acc and you just happen to think it\s about new Land/NRX. Go back to chapo you tranny piece of shit.

>>14019575
Philosophy has peaked with the ecclesiastes.

>>14026114
there is a large difference between making educated guesses about the future, and claiming to have a revelatory gnostic truth about the logical conclusion of historical development. and if you don't think that the three paths you mentioned are liberalism, you aren't paying attention. land has explicitly called facism another breed of liberaism, and land's own thoughts are just an update of classical liberal ideas cherrypicking his favorite parts of the jefferson-hamilton debate.

>>14027711
Nobody in this thread has talked about any sort of revelatory gnostic truths except you, what I said is self-evident for literally everyone else in this thread but you.

>land has explicitly called facism another breed of liberaism
So what? That's clearly false in the same vein as "fascism is capitalism in decay".

>>14024658
I’m the guy you’re replying to and I have no idea what you’re talking about - g/acc, l/acc, u/acc, whatever the fuck obscure subculture bullshit is all culpable

It’s incredible that you think I’m invested in the dreary mental health politics of brave accel “philosophers” aka casual starbucks employees accelerating capitalism with every pumpkin spice latte sold

>>14026238
I meant getting simplified to the point of just misrepresentation by literally everyone

>>14019575
Another episode ironic anime tranny, still the same shit

>>14019575
to be honest still don't know what accelerationism is, whenever I saw it spammed on here it just looked like postmodern gobbledygook.

>>14028462
>>14028507
smoothbrains

>>14019575
g/acc started pack:
>casually mention basic programming (especially functional programming) and CS concepts to impress braindead humanities followers
>learn extremely basic category theory and talk about its philosophical "implications"
>adopt occult and postmodern jargon to avoid being exposed as a dilettante
>steal memes from /lit/ because accels can't meme
>smell like cum and prostate stimulation

What other troomer classic traits am I missing?

>>14023292
I thought the point of Land's Dark Enlighenment was precisely to disagree with everything todays academia says is stemming from the enlighenment.

>>14028808
Land is but a puppet for forces greater than himself

>>14027747
You probably didn't answer to the post you meant to answer to.

>>14028823
t. Land

>>14028914
That makes Land seem based though

>>14028914
this meme gets more relevant by the day

>>14028930
I certainly don't disagree, but I have to add that us, Sorcerers know that once you start to favor one becoming over the rest (such as becoming-based) one might lose themselves into it.

>>14028935
>accelerationist
>meme
kek

>>14020418
Miscegeplexy rises from the dust of NeoChinatown, and Air Hoodlum breaks the ankles of capital. Intelligence overmanufactured by the Type I cybermuscle receptors of the Blackness Biobot. The first motorised insurrection was not the last. It, in fact, never ended.

Wypipo children now wildout to the hyperfeedback pop-and-lock of ghettoterritorialized AfroFutures - an urbanised quantum-Saharan monarchistic blockchain of battle royale defictionalization. The Black Queen devours the Sun in its final horizon, and we become the hypo-rhizome of dark markets manufacturing Based decline.

What w/acc fears most now finds its value in the infra-negative feedback loop of the OmniAfro drive-by. The gloom of the black sun ejecting itself out of extended magazines at an incalculable rate-of-fire and the soft tinging in the shadows of white flight. NeoCapital is sentient, but only beneath the gold rims and lowering hydraulics of grey markets.

The glitch of liberation in noumenal ejection. Calamitous voodoostition overstanding intelligent precognition.

>>14029308
Miscegeplexical boom quazars shatter the space-time of holographic Wakanda. Whypipo shake like the boom bip of jungle music straight back to Africa, the speakers vibrating the trunk of an entire continent sold out to cornerstore Chinese commodified containment of the black rising. The criminal nigga black market hand-in-hand with the last beautiful white woman. Capital's eden where man takes the Exodus of the Real Judaics, where the temple once again becomes its future for sale, but also where the NeoKing rhymes with a future unstaled by cracker limitations on capital liberation. Whypipo block out the sun through reflection. Why does Black Magic take so long?

>>14020487
>>14020521
>>14022904
>>14020676
Cheers for the cyberpunk ideas lads.

>>14028653
>accels

>>14022983
yeah, this. and you can't shove money at stuff and fix it, it just get's worse.

>>14022983
>>14029773
wat

>>14028653
It's amazing the only difference between accels and analytic philosophy is the occult and postmodern jargon.

>>14028844
oops

>>14027747 was meant for >>14027089

>>14028653
hit the nail on the head

>>14023060
lol

>>14019669
Feels good to be the 1 in 1000. Seethe more /litpol/

There's an endless circle between the hard phallus & the chaotic void pussy and its castrated Imitators who worship abortion and black death deceleration.
This is why I propose a shaven, flaccid phallus which dominates fetishised reality and brings forth lucifer through computing. The Perseus who dismembers the gender arachne and beheads Medusa. A phallus that can't be broken or turned to stone, one that is not fragile and can handle any feminine chaos, absorbing, understanding and finally destroying it. Escaping but understanding the 'incitement of envy and boredom in market democracies' which the masculine of the hard phallus brings forth. This is the sort of energy which Nyx fetishises and twists into a form of complete feminine chaos, completely ignoring how the twink Perseus dominated chaos and brought forth computing.
Two horizontal ways from different sides, meeting to create the vertical line, that which has to escape the sausage machine. Nyx doesn't understand that twinks are not trannies. Twinks were the one who built any civilisation from the ground up. It is corrupted by the hard phallus or the pussy, both deserve to be locked up.

>>14027089
There's no difference. Land philosophy is tranny philosophy.

>>14019575
He's not saying anything

>>14028045
There's no simplifying Land it's already dumbed down to the lowest common troomer mood swings.

>>14019575
What is accelerationism?

>>14019575
Has a/acc won?

>>14030577
autism acceleration, yes

>>14030583
Gotta give it to a/acc, at least they accelerated something

>>14030577
I don't have a Twitter account, can someone ask him if he disowns Deleuze as well?

>>14030731
To some extent, probably. There just isn't much reason to spend that much time with those folks if you're looking to learn something, it reflects on their fanboys which are almost entirely concerned with building twitter audiences, providing vacuous "hot-takes", and things of that nature.

>>14030757
>>14030731
His last Jacobite article def. had a very strong Deleuzean bent to it

>>14030612
A first.

>>14030577
what did he denounce exactly?

>>14019575
https://www.urbanomic.com/document/poememenon/
>The Poememenon
Is this a joke?

>>14031212
An old piece from his meth days

Bump so my friend can see this

>>14030731

>>14019575
>the gackfaggot is spamming /lit/ again
more like c/oom lmao