/lit/ - Literature

A jew can't and won't defend our canon.

Who?

RIP Charles Jencks, Postmodernist

The Anxiety of Influence is tremendous, and I believe it is dismissed too readily by those who want to believe that no poet or writer is fighting a battle against their predecessors. Conflict, anxiety, and overcoming it are core to many writers who succeed in creating something new.

Goodbye Harold.

>>13992585
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/14/books/harold-bloom-dead.html
>it's real
I thought this was supposed to be a joke.

FUCK

No discernible signs of life

STICKY NOW

DO SOMETHING RIGHT FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIVES, MODS

>>13992597
Kill yourself IRL monoboardculturist.

>>13992686
Golly

>>13992585
>There is no one to defend the canon now.
/lit/ - Literature

>>13992585
please explain who this is to someone who doesn't read books

>>13992701
>/lit/ is the final bulwark defending the canon from postmodernists
we're fucked

>>13992585
When I was 20 I sincerely believed I would publish a few novels and Bloom would pronounce me canon before he died. This sucks.

>>13992597
Harold Bloom will be a ministering angel whilst thou liest howling.

>>13992720
We have meme magic on our side, we'll be fine.

F

>>13992720
Don't be so pessimistic, friend. We have several Ivy League students here, at least a couple of published authors, and Londonfrog. I don't think it's overly optimistic to expect some great things in the future from plenty of /lit/ users.

>>13992717
Important academic and writer who wrote a lot on defining what it means for a text to be canonical, the most influential being Bloom's Western Canon.

>>13992720
>defending the canon from postmodernists
I thought Bloom was okay with the works of Pinecone and the like, as long as teachers didn't use them to replace older canonical books.

>>13992752
He's referring to postmodern critics more than postmodern authors. Bloom was famously against interpretations such as Marxist readings of Shakespeare or feminist readings of Chaucer. He argued that such readings said more of their respective viewpoints than it could of the works in question.

>>13992717
Harold Bloom was a jewish literary gatekeeper.

>>13992686
UNDERRATED

>>13992717
Literary theoretician and critic, before used to be into some sort of psychoanalytic literary theory (see the book Anxiety of Influence), but is best known for his later skepticism towards more political theoretical schools (feminism, marxism) while firmly believing in objective value of (usually older, classical) literature and writing a book on the western canon (called Western Canon) which desired to catalog and showcase the best literature western culture has produced. Also wrote a very dismissive review of Harry Potter. I guess it doesn't take much brainpower to figure out why /lit/ loved him.

Mods, please sticky

>>13992800
>guess it doesn't take much brainpower to figure out why /lit/ loved him.
/lit/ did not "love" him; we tolerated him because he was propped up as gatekeeper by the last generation and his tribe and didn't fuck up as much as he could have. But Bloom should never have been in the position he was. He was a racial outsider presiding as judge over our literary culture and and history, and this was frankly unacceptable.

>>13992838
>/lit/ did not "love" him; we tolerated him
Shut the fuck up newfag, we loved him.

>>13992838
why do /pol/fags have to stick their butts into everything

>>13992838
>muh race
fuck off, school of ressentiment

>>13992771
Anyone know why this postmodern criticism is SO prevalent in American universities? I majored in English and I swear to God every fucking lit class I took was just
>heres a book
> heres some entry level Marxist/psychoanalytic/feminist/historicist theories
>now use these bullshit theories to analyse the text
I had at least half a dozen literature classes just like this. Why can't a book be read and understood on its own terms? Why do books need to be analysed through some preconceived lens?

>>13992838
pls. Even most of the right wing people on /lit/ liked bloom, even most of the vaguely antisemitic people as well. Why would you hate a guy who stuck his neck out to champion the exact literary tradition you love?

>>13992848
No, we did not. He was an alien outsider who wasn't as destructive as he could have been. Get over your jewish gatekeeper Stockholm Syndrome.

/lit/ dies alongside Harold

>>13992585
Christ /lit/ sucks now. IT ALL STARTED WITH BLOOM.

>>13992585

Pray that he knows what to say before Yaldabaoth.

>>13992688
>>13992837

>>13992585
Considering how willing he was to blatantly lie over a children's book, how many falsehoods are hidden through his work?

>>13992858
Because that's not what he did, moron. It has nothing to do with politics, it has to do with him not being a member of our culture in the first place.

>>13992857
In my experience, almost all questions like this regarding why people are so aggressive with this shit can be answered with 'the person in question wanted a moral high'. People enjoy criticizing Chaucer and Melville from a modern perspective because those people can feel both intellectually superior to the authors and morally superior than the masses by promoting such ideas. Bloom hit the nail on the head when he called them "the School of Resentment".

>>13992838
It's the Jew in your mind that matters, not the Jew in your blood.

Protect.. the.. canon..
I entreat ye... /lit/...
Good...bye...

>>13992861
Why use "we" when referring to /lit/, when your very existence is a negation of the /lit/ mode? It's obvious you had not browsed this board prior to say, 2015.

>>13992884
Nice cope, cuck.

Has anyone read this? It's his last major work and is supposed to be his swan song, excluding Flight to Lucifer ofc

>>13992857
Literally cause they're easy to teach. You don't have to explain historic, cultural, or economic background. You can approach a text through one lens. If professors do that its easier to teach.

>>13992838
>by the last generation and his tribe and didn't
>But Bloom
>culture and and history
You can't even stay incognito for ten seconds, can you /pol/? What the fuck is this garbage you've spewed out? How about you stay the fuck off of /lit/ until you can write at a high school level?

>>13992900

Yes. It's mostly him mourning over dead poet friends. Pretty sad.

>>13992861
>we
Fuck off, invader, you're not one of us.

>>13992886
Requiescat in pace old man

>>13992890
Stop worshipping a foreign gatekeeper of western culture. We tolerated Bloom and didn't hate him because he wasn't as destructive as his coethnics usually are.

>>13992918
whether you think you're right or not it is simply a fact that most of the board doesn't agree with you. People might be open to discussing jewish nepotism or whatever(even that is a minority) but you have a pathological hatred of the entire people that makes you the odd one out here.

F

>>13992585
rip
i enjoyed watching his charlie rose interviews

>>13992928
What was the last thing he read, /lit/?

What did he mean by this?

>I’m glad I spent my life acquiring books

Sad, sad day.

>>13992935
Henry IV Part I obviously

>>13992924
No, you don't belong here. No one is saying they hate Bloom, but that he was an outsider who never had any business gatekeeping our culture.

>>13992940
A friend of mine was a regular dinner companion of Bloom's, and he said in spite of his health issues for the last several years, Bloom seemed satisfied with the life he led. My brief email exchanges with the professor lead me to believe the same.

>>13992954
>My brief email exchanges with the professor
mind sharing/paraphrasing?

>>13992954
Poast excerpts (not like he'\s going to care now)

>>13992940
He died doing what he loved, will you be able to say the same?

>>13992954
just meme-ing friend

>>13992953
Only you are saying that. You do not speak for /lit/ as a whole, you speak only for yourself.

RIP Harold Bloom

>>13992857
>Why can't a book be read and understood on its own terms?
Interestingly, it was precisely the US that started a whole school out of this idea - New Criticism.
As to why the situation is like this right now, it's probably because of the lack of a more solid scholarly tradition in the States (lack of old-school rigorous philology), as well as letting the universities be guided by the market forces. Simply, they want to sell you new books on lit theory, so they ignore the old ones.
I'm studying in continental Europe where the situation is mostly better. This semester I took a class on classicism, and on the list of secondary literature we were offered some historical overviews published literally in the 19th century. The prof explained basically what I said above - there's an academic culture of fashion and fast changes. Fortunately, we can still read those older books, but that takes some initiative on the part of students or profs.
People will read some malicious subversive intent in marxism and feminism and stuff like that feminist translation of Homer, but I'd sooner say that it's just a desire to make money. Most of those scholars are just too braindead to consciously fight the western culture or whatever.

STICKY

Shit just bought his book western canon like 3 hours ago. RIP you damn bastard

>>13992974
>>13992872

>>13992964
No, I am speaking for /lit/. You are merely some low-info cuck.

What o you think the last poem/book he read was?

At least he didn't have to outlive all of the authors he cherished.

>>13992982
Then why does so much of /lit/ seem opposed to pretty much everything you say?
Also, you write like a /pol/tard, which outs you as a newfag to the board.

Damn dis old ass nigga dead

state of emergency this is a wake up call aaaaaaaaaaa

Look at this garbage the pieces of shit at the NYT wrote about him in their obit. Journalists are cockroaches

>>13992585
How sadly fitting. I found this out while working on my graduate application writing sample on Falstaff, using Bloom as a source.
>>13992952
If he had any choice in the matter, it was definitely this.

>>13993001
eh the NYT article was about as fair as could be expected from those guys

>>13993001
>Those sentence-starters
>that comma usage
It's sad how all these journalists who despise reading the classics would so benefit from doing so.

>>13992982
You aren't speaking for me, faggot. Go fuck yourself back to /pol/.

Harold Bloom- rest in piss
Western Canon- rest in piss

When did being a Philistine become en Vogue for people who think of themselves as being “elite”? (Blue Checks)

>>13993001
>Kafka
>white

>>13992688
Listen to the dubs-man

>>13992585
ill miss this nigga like youll never believe rip

>>13993024
Back to your containment board

>>13993023
don't dump that dogshit here

>>13993001
>>13993024
>Anglos
>white

>>13993017
You need to leave.

>>13993043
no u

>>13993049
NO
(YOU)

>>13992585
fuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Reading Bloom's "The Western Canon" in high school was a huge part in me wanting to read the classics. I am going to miss him. The Canon has lost it's chief defender.

>>13992982
Your grammar and usage is fucking abysmal. Even if I agreed to your concepts (I don't), I would need at least five proofreaders to go through your ramblings to find anything I'd be comfortable putting my name near.

>>13992838
Unfriendly reminder that you newfags will never be /lit/ and will always be outsiders to this board. Now please fuck off and let us have our meme thread

>>13993060
Is that why I'm a professional, published writer, and you are a kissless virgin NEET?

Alexander died, Alexander was buried, Alexander returneth into dust

>>13993082
>Is that why I'm a professional, published writer
given the state of literature, probably

>>13993001
>When the person criticized is the reviewer pretending to be anyone but

>>13993089
You're an unappreciated, deeply emotional artist, I'm sure. You fucking cuck.

>>13992585
He was a sexual predator

>>13992686
Kek

>>13993001
Who is the author of this obit?

>>13992771
Some of Shakespeare's plays like Timon of Athens can actually be read pretty clearly from a Marxist perspective.

>>13992961
>>13992958
Just friendly responses to my sophomoric questions about influences on Shakespeare. Not enough to really make sharing worth it.

>>13993086
>What though the field be lost? All is not lost; the unconquerable Will, And study of revenge, immortal hate, And courage never to submit or yield: And what is else not to be overcome? That Glory never shall his wrath or might Extort from me. To bow and sue for grace With suppliant knee, and deifie his power Who from the terrour of this Arm so late Doubted his Empire, that were low indeed, That were an ignominy and shame beneath This downfall; since by Fate the strength of Gods And this Empyreal substance cannot fail, Since through experience of this great event In Arms not worse, in foresight much advanc’t, We may with more successful hope resolve To wage by force or guile eternal Warr Irreconcileable, to our grand Foe

Literature will rise again

And so it was I entered the broken world
To trace the visionary company of love, its voice
An instant in the wind (I know not whither hurled)
But not for long to hold each desperate choice.

>>13992939
Why did he lie about something that can be refuted so easily?

>>13993134
>Literature will rise again
Only if the West can beat back the foreign hordes and reestablish our culture apart from jews, even decent ones like Bloom. Without that white high culture will continue to die out.

I feel we need an Armond White-type of literary critic.

Thought it was fake.

RIP, Bloom.

>>13992681
Lmao the URL is so plain that I was completely convinced that it was fake and wouldn't anywhere, no idea why I even clicked. RIP

>>13993023
>When asked about the allegations in 2015, Bloom stated, "I refuse to even use the name of this person [Woods]. I call her Dracula's daughter, because her father was a Dracula scholar. I have never in my life been indoors with Dracula's daughter. When she came to the door of my house unbidden, my youngest son turned her away. Once, I was walking up to campus, and she fell in with me and said, 'May I walk with you, Professor Bloom?' I said nothing."[58]

WAS there a more based man in existence?

>>13993082
Fuck off, Rowling.

>>13992737
who is londonfrog

"No!"

>>13993001
>This list of authors he appreciated are all white males. Note that we purposefully did not include female authors that he included in the canon in this list in order to smear this deceased Jewish man as a white supremacist.

Nothing against him as a person, but as a critic he was terrible.

Just a ghost

>>13992737
Didn't Tao Lin browse /lit/ ?

>>13993223
t. School of Resentment

>>13993223
And why is that

>>13993223
t. School of ressentment

>>13993172
look at this guy imagine he's at the forefront of kultur

jews bad!

mummy!

F

lol when did /lit/ get to the point where people were dumb enough to like bloom on here

>>13992585
F
Mods, sticky. Now.

>>13993259
Anon- he can't bait, he can't effortpost, there's no discernible talent.

>>13993221
Exactly. Agenda always comes first. And Bloom wouldn't have spoken against his tribe using him to attack white people either because he understood the tribe comes first. It's for this very reason that he pointed the finger at some abstract group of "Marxists" instead of highlighting how the leaders promoting the School of Resentment were primarily jews.

WHERE'S THE STICKY

>>13992597
>our canon
You've never written anything worth publishing in your life and you never will.

>>13993280
You’re a retard. Why would he point the finger at Jews when that would cast too large a net, catching Jews who have nothing to do with this and leaving out non-Jews who do. Aim your critiques at the substance of what people believe not their fucking race. You’re just as bad as the school of resentment bloom failed against.

>>13992585
>Whitman
>Dickinson
>Woolf
>Dickens
Why did he include so many meme authors?

>>13993296
Railed against*

It's over.

>>13993298
Literally none of those are memes.

>>13993296
>Why would he point the finger at Jews
He didn't because he was a jew himself, and jews understand that the tribe comes first.

And nothing of value was lost

>>13992901
This is exactly the reason, most of the time. That shit is really easy to write too and makes bullshitting papers in classes you don't care about a breeze.

>>13993312
His teachings and memes lingered over this board since its inception.

AHHHHHHHHHHHH NO FUCK FUCK FUCK
We all knew it was going to happen one day. We've discussed it many times.
The canon is done.

>>13992982
Retarded /pol/acks thinking that 4chan is exactly what CNN told them it was in 2016 should be shot

>>13993280
AMEN FELLOW KEKISTANI!!! DEUS VULT! Can't wait to reconquer western civilization from the (((Marxist SJW's)))

>>13993335

>tfw feeling nostalgic for 2016 /lit/

>>13993023
Fuck this twitter faggot
FUCKING BLUE CHECK MARK NIGGER
I could almost scream

>>13993318
No, he just wanted to read good literature, he didn’t give a fuck about your identity politics bullshit

>>13992857
It's because American universities are fundamentally bourgeois institutions, and as a social class the bourgeois are fundamentally mediocratic. The idea of "everyone's opinion being valid" is the logical endpoint of a society which extended so thoroughly into every element of life that it deprived the individual of the ability to assert themselves (a la DeToqueville, Nietzsche, Hegel) except through institutional mechanisms.

By hiding behind ideologies and devaluing opinions through inclusivity, a hugbox is created which raises the floor and lowers the ceiling of "esteem granted per unit of intellectual merit"-- esteem being the foremost bourgeois value.

It'll die with capitalism, but it'll get worse before it gets better. Universities will be the last holdout; most fundamentally bourgeois institution.

This news makes me very sad. And no one I know knew of him.
Oh dear

>>13993058
nah, still you. Bloom is /ourguy/ and always will be.

Why are there a bunch of people with pronouns in their twitter bios apparently dancing on his grave? He just wanted to preserve great art

>>13993370
>the most tribal and racially conscious people on earth don't think in terms of race and tribalism
You're delusional.

>>13993317
If you are a yank and can't speak foreign languages.

>>13993104
Did he rape your mother or something? Literally who cares, twitterfag.

>>13993392
I currently speak 5 languages. I'm an ESL.

Bloom was a massive hero of mine. He could, undeniably, be a contrary old twat with a tendency for self promotion but his passion for the canon, for the quality and aesthetics and the history of literature were ever present and completely intoxicating to a young undergraduate like me, who had been lulled into a deathlike state of boredom by the sterile and ideological teaching of his faculty and had begun to fall out of love with literature.
I used to spend hours reading his books in the library, despite my lecturers insistence that he should be ignored and left to rot like the dying old fossil he was. But through that reading, a whole new world opened up and with Bloom as my guide, a whole new way of seeing.
The amount of writers and texts I discovered through Bloom is countless. He showed me the importance of tradition, of precedence, of structure and form while never being afraid to be iconoclastic when the time came for it. I take these lessons forward into my every thought and action. I can genuinely say that I would not be the man today without him, for better or worse. I wish I could have met him and express my gratitude. All I have to give are these awkward hastily written words. RIP

>>13993391
Harold bloom was not a cultural Jew, that’s apparent by his entire life’s work. He was detached from that bullshit, just like he was detached from the ridiculous feminist Marxist bullshit

>>13993236
>>13993238

I don't give a damn about minority issues and inclusion-efforts in curriculums. I think reading varied works from all sorts of people is healthy, but in the end of the day what really matters is the quality of the work itself, and it doesn't matter who created it.

>>13993237
>And why is that

My problem with Bloom is this: He never analyzed the style and literary techniques of the works he studied. He produced several assertions without any proof. His book on Shakespeare is a good example. He could not even produce a single passage of analysis of metaphors or similes, or how language was constructed to elevate this or that passage. He quotes from Shakespeare again and again, but never dissects the wonderful passages of poetry that he quotes. All he does is to vomit a messy broth of pseudo-psychology of the characters, make exaggerated statements about all sorts of subjects (something like "Hamlet is as close as a human conscience ever came to a God") without substantiating such statements and mention a thousand times words like "agon" and "gnostic". In his reading you do not feel the slightest glimpse of the verbal sensitivity that a linguistically gifted person possesses. Try reading Nabokov's criticism after Bloom to see what i'm talking about.

To see how poor Bloom was, it is enough to contrast his book on Shakespeare with the work of Mark Van Doren. To see Bloom's lack of understanding of how language and poetry works, just look at what Frank Kermode did in his book "Shakespeare's Langauge."

You read Bloom and you don't learn anything about how a particular work of art was created. You don't learn anything about how the writer's style works, or how his language has evolved over time. You don't learn anything about what makes this great writer, for Bloom can only state but never demonstrate. Bloom's criticism is a waste of time.

I guess articles like these can help me to express what I feel about Bloom:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/nov/03/classics.highereducation

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/haroldbloom

I honeslty have no idea how someone could read so many books and make so great a effort and still don't acquire a single flame of verbal talent.

>>13993402
Where should I start with him? Western Canon text?

RIP Professor Bloom, and thank you for your service to the canon

>Anon, thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to come help me around the house. When you get to be my age you'll find your strength leaves you, and help is needed. Could you please find and bring me my copy of Hart Crane's collected poetry? Strange... I used to be able to recite them all by memory, but lately I seem to be forgetting things easily.

>>13993335
>tfw making one of these squares is my only ticket for eternity

>>13993413
That and Anxiety of Influence. His earlier stuff about the Romantics is pretty comfy too.

>>13992585
sleep well Mr Bloom, sad I never got to meet you

>>13993408
This seems accurate from what I’ve seen of him. I haven’t read his books because I consider literary criticism to be a waste of time but from his interviews he says shit like “blood meridian is a nightmarish experience the judge is such and such” and never explains the writing style or the meaning behind it. Just blanket assertions with no elaboration.

>>13993408
>unironically linking to the fucking guardian
Get out of my fucking board you pseud

>>13993428
>His earlier stuff about the Romantics is pretty comfy too
Reading the Visionary Company right now, can confirm it's excellent.

>>13993406
There is no group more tribalist and racially conscious than jews. It's such a deeply rooted, biologically driven reality that for you to believe Bloom was above such things indicates that you are simply not very intelligent.

>>13992585
Rest in peace Professor Harold Bloom. You were a true lover of literature.

>>13992597
fuck off /pol/ tourist

>>13993454
I'd rather speak to a jew like Bloom any day than a fucking /pol/ack

>>13993416
>Mr Bloom good morning
>I bought you a copy of some rare renaissance verse I found in a charity shop, thought you'd enjoy a qiet day in to read it
>Mr Bloom its a bit late in the day to be still in bed
>M-Mr Bloom?
>You okay?

>>13993173
Nabokov is a contender, although he's more like Scaruffi

>>13993454
>There is no group more tribalist and racially conscious than jews.
Substantiate this claim.
>It's such a deeply rooted, biologically driven reality
Prove it. stormweenies are always making this claim but they never substantiate it with any evidence. I think you're delusional.

>>13993401
Why do you have that perspective then, those authors are memes and really don't compare with the others.

>>13992597
Then what the fuck do you have to say about the fact that he did, his entire life? Was he just pretending?

>>13993498
don't encourage it

>>13993490
You aren't speaking to one. You are embarrassing yourself by forwarding the ridiculous thesis that jews are individualist thinkers like whites are, when they clearly are not.

>>13993023
What a piece of human filth. Imagine a day in the life of this cockroach

RIP

>>13993416
>>13993494
d-delet this

>>13993498
Jewish culture revolves almost singularly around distinguishing themselves from the goyim subhuman cattle.

>>13992597
It's their cannon now. They earned it.

>>13993499
Maybe Whitman is Amero-centric, but Dickens and Woolf are seriously good writers.

>>13993408
His earlier work doesn't suffer from this nearly as much and is pretty strong scholarly material. Later Bloom suffered from intense laziness and he simply stopped giving a shit about academic rigour which produced the effect that you write about here. He stopped being a "critic" in the academic sense and started to fashion himself as a kind of gnostic visionary essayist, a kind of weird unseemly hybrid between Johnson and Blake. This was tendency he had always had in him but it utterly took over in the 90's. The literary insight is limited but I have always found them incredibly stimulating to read, despite being often quite repetitive and occasionally obnoxious. There's rarely a hint of close reading in essays of Johnson or Hazlitt - you don't read them necessarily for insight into other works but for the essays as works in of themselves. So it goes with Bloom.

>>13992857
Read Pope's essay on criticism,

Yet if we look more closely we shall find
Most have the seeds of judgment in their mind;
Nature affords at least a glimm'ring light;
The lines, tho' touch'd but faintly, are drawn right.
But as the slightest sketch, if justly trac'd,
Is by ill colouring but the more disgrac'd,
So by false learning is good sense defac'd;
Some are bewilder'd in the maze of schools,
And some made coxcombs Nature meant but fools.
In search of wit these lose their common sense,
And then turn critics in their own defence:
Each burns alike, who can, or cannot write,
Or with a rival's, or an eunuch's spite.

>>13993508
Nobody ever said they were all brilliant individualists, we all just told you to fuck off
Every single person on 4chan long enough to stumble into any of the small hobby boards has heard more rants about jews than the average Hitler Youth, this isn't new, shocking, or offensive to anybody
The reason everyone hates you faggots is your complete inability to ever stop posting this shit for a single thread

>>13993506
>Stop washing your hands, it encourages contagions

We know Bloom hated Harry Potter but did he ever comment on His Dark Materials?

>>13993522
I don't think that is true. You seem like a paranoiac

RIP. He is stretching his legs in heaven now.

>>13993556
You are the one ranting here. It's a complicated subject, and you have shown you don't understand the basics of it, likely because you are mid-tier IQ. Better just to stay out of the conversation than embarrass yourself like this, though.

>>13992597
>>13992838
is this a real person, or some tranny LARPing as a /pol/tard
if real you are like the living breathing embodiment of the whole meme that white nationalists are just incel losers with nothing themselves to be proud of trying to latch onto the accomplishments of others

Bloom is far more worthy of using the term "our" canon than you ever will be, fuck off m8

>>13992681
>>13992585
you fuckers memed this into existence

you fucking fuckers. you complete incels. you fucking killed him. APOLOGIZE.

>>13993416
>>13993494
this makes me sad

>>13993522
It’s possible for this to be true and Harold Bloom to have also been a decent man who just wanted to read books. It’s not like jews have a secret communications network where every single one of them calls in for their daily marching orders, anon.

>>13993593
>Bloom is far more worthy of using the term "our" canon
Bloom was a semite. He was not a member of western culture.

>>13993571

He likes it, and Pullman in general.

source: the blurb from Pullman's Brothers Grimm retellings

>“I’ve admired Philip Pullman since his early fantasy Galatea on through his splendid trilogy, His Dark Materials. All of his gifts, including his prose eloquence and his endless, high Romantic imagination, are manifested in this marvelous retelling of Grimm.” —Harold Bloom

>>13993606
The first part is not really in question. Bloom could have done far more damage than he did. The second part is made up, no one is indicating that.

>>13993608
I’m convinced you’re a pissed off tranny LARPing as /pol/

I'm glad he finally croaked.

>>13992838
This. So much this. We were stabbed in the back by the Jewish ministers who propped Harold up as a literary proxy to our people. Now that he is finally gone we can seize the means of authority and place someone of our own in their rightful place. I propose a vote for one amongst litetary folk of pure White blood this time.

Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,
Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
Silence the pianos and with muffled drum
Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.
Let aeroplanes circle moaning overhead
Scribbling on the sky the message ‘He is Dead’.
Put crepe bows round the white necks of the public doves,
Let the traffic policemen wear black cotton gloves.
He was my North, my South, my East and West,
My working week and my Sunday rest,
My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
I thought that love would last forever: I was wrong.
The stars are not wanted now; put out every one,
Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun,
Pour away the ocean and sweep up the wood;
For nothing now can ever come to any good.

>>http://thealternativehypothesis.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/PDF-FOR-RYAN.pdf
no

>muh Western canon

The person who takes the notion of a “Western canon” seriously treats literature as primarily as a given corpus and therefore fails to grasp that literature continues to hold a promise - Stendahl’s “une promise de bonheur” - only as long as it draws near extinction and creation simultaneously. This conflict, which constitutes the essence of literature, will never be understood by someone who fetishizes the canon.

rip

Upon hearing that he always responded to emails, I wrote to him and shared a few fleeting thoughts while thanking him for introducing me to some authors I was unlikely to find otherwise.
As a response he wrote a beautiful brief message that was both lovely and sad.
He was a man.

Thank you Mods for the sticky.

>sticky thread
>not even 200 replies
Damn.. I guess he never really meant that much to you guys after all

Why are people cheering his death on Shitter?

>>13993682

Probably Harry Potter fans

He like totally sexually harassed me in college. Receipts coming on twitter!! xx

>>13993173
the post-trump culture war has fried armond’s brain, sadly, and now he just sounds like your average maga boomer

>>13993684
Fuck you it just got stickied,
1000 or fucking bust within an hour faggots. Do it for Harry

>>13993676
I always wnted to write to him, how angry I am now that the opportunity is gone.

>>13993649
>I propose a vote for one amongst litetary folk of pure White blood this time.
Finally. Eith that old Jew gone, nothing can stand between me and the canon.

>>13993233
Lol love how these memes have been waiting in reserve

>>13993719
He had been among the walking dead for the last few years anon. Impressive he lasted thing long desu.

>>13993173
Kill yourself, I mean this sincerely

>>13993682
They're vultures, they've always been vultures, the can't help themselves

>>13993714
Except the river Styx.

Alas, poor Harold! I knew him, Horatio; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy; he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! My gorge rises at it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. Where be your gibes now? Your gambols? Your songs? Your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the table on a roar?

>>13993682
metoo'd

>>13993676
>>13993703
Fare forward, /lit/.
Fare forward.

>>13993682
It makes me unbelievably angry. I usually don't give a shit but those cunts are triggering me beyond belief.

>>13993735
>infinite jest
Dropped.

>>13993740
lovely, seemed a genuine guy for all his flaws

Peace, peace! he is not dead, he doth not sleep,
He hath awaken'd from the dream of life;
'Tis we, who lost in stormy visions, keep
With phantoms an unprofitable strife,
And in mad trance, strike with our spirit's knife
Invulnerable nothings. We decay
Like corpses in a charnel; fear and grief
Convulse us and consume us day by day,
And cold hopes swarm like worms within our living clay.

>>13993740
I weep.

>>13993352
Shit. In 2015/16 I was writing my master's thesis and started coming here. I remember all the memes about DFW and Harold. It's another piece of life that goes away.

>>13993495
I mean contemporary.

>>13993693
Earlier White then.

I want current well-spoken contrarian.

>>13992585
Pray for Roger Kimball's good health, because after that, the canon is fucked.

i have a recording of one of his classes where he analyzes a wallace stevens poem. don’t know if it’s been posted already tho

>>13992882
>>13992901
>>13992973
>>13993371
>>13993539
Thanks for the responses, friends! The way literature was approached/taught in my university always baffled me. It was interesting and enlightening to read your perspectives on the matter.

>>13992585
F

Worlds a better place with less opinionated meta-theoretic jackasses.

>>13993703
bloom was probably constantly flooded with fawning letters from insecure young /lit/ users ready and willing to defend the ”canon” after having ordered the robert fagles homer set on amazon. this thread is full of those utter bores

>>13993740
Jesus fucking christ, i wasnt as sad as this in like 5 years

>>13993778
Behold, an interesting and well balanced human being.

>>13992585
Oh, I'm glad.

>>13993791
t. School of Resentment

>>13992901
>You don't have to explain historic, cultural, or economic background.
I know this is probably bait, but isn't that explicitly what PoMo critics are rooted in? They're far rarer outside of the humanities departments than inside.

RIP to my nigga Harold Bloom

>>13993765
Do share it, please.

>>13993765
I'd be very interested, please post it

>>13993781
What a sad, sheltered life you live

https://forums.hipinion.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=131263

>>13993798
this desu

>>13993806
>>13993805
somebody already posted it. https://youtu.be/bUJXWgOOZOM

>>13992720
its time for literary death squads.

>>13992585
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>>13993828
Based Harold.

>>13992872
kek they banned me from the chat. mods are such squares. thanks for the sticky, though.

>>13993714
kek

>>13993755
2015/16 was really the beginning of the end. We all saw the signs, yet we ignored them.

>>13993783
Cringe

>>13993740

>>13993882
Weak

IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE END
HAROLD WENT UP THE HILL AND DISAPPEARED AROUND THE BEND
ASK ANYONE, THEY'LL TELL YOU THAT IT'S THESE TIMES THAT IT TENDS
TO START TO BREAK IN HALF, TO START TO FALL APART, HOLD ON TO YOUR HEART

AND DO ME A FAVOUR AND BREAK MY NOSE
OR DO ME A FAVOUR AND TELL ME TO GO AWAY
OR DO ME A FAVOUR AND STOP ASKING QUESTIONS

RIP in piss

>>13993828
This actually true, and a fairly modern view at that: USA only promoted the idea of a Judea-Christian tradition in opposition to the atheist Soviet Union. The country had a shared religiosity, but not a shared religion; the Mormons, Jews, Catholics, Baptists, etc. all had a 'shared culture' and so could united oppose communism.

I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone.

>>13993922
why

>>13993922
what did he ever do to you?

>>13992585
fuuuuuccckkk
what do we do now boys

>>13993944
Nothing. It's over.

>>13993920
pozzed fag

>>13993920
It is to also be noted that "Judeo-Christian tradition" has generally morphed into being anti-Islam after the fall of the Soviet Union, as this is the current perceived enemy of "The West".

>>13993920
You have to be really stupid to believe this. Jews ran the Soviet Union for decades upon its inception and were the main communist agitators in the US. "Judeo-Christianity" is a 20th century gayop.

>"Western Canon"
>not "Christendom Canon"
1 job mr. bloom

>>13993981
?

>>13993335
>>13993352
>>13993755
Fresh as the first beam glittering on a sail,
That brings our friends up from the underworld,
Sad as the last which reddens over one
That sinks with all we love below the verge;
So sad, so fresh, the days that are no more.

Ah, sad and strange as in dark summer dawns
The earliest pipe of half-awaken'd birds
To dying ears, when unto dying eyes
The casement slowly grows a glimmering square;
So sad, so strange, the days that are no more.

Call the roller of big cigars,
The muscular one, and bid him whip
In kitchen cups concupiscent curds.
Let the wenches dawdle in such dress
As they are used to wear, and let the boys
Bring flowers in last month's newspapers.
Let be be finale of seem.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.

Take from the dresser of deal,
Lacking the three glass knobs, that sheet
On which she embroidered fantails once
And spread it so as to cover her face.
If his horny feet protrude, they come
To show how cold he is, and dumb.
Let the lamp affix its beam.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.

>>13992686
based

>>13993981
Kafka and Freud and Nietzsche and many of the other ones weren't Christian.

>>13992585
F

>>13993996
Kafka and Freud were jewish, and are thus not a part of the western canon anyway.

Often beneath the wave, wide from this ledge
The dice of drowned men’s bones he saw bequeath
An embassy. Their numbers as he watched,
Beat on the dusty shore and were obscured.

And wrecks passed without sound of bells,
The calyx of death’s bounty giving back
A scattered chapter, livid hieroglyph,
The portent wound in corridors of shells.

Then in the circuit calm of one vast coil,
Its lashings charmed and malice reconciled,
Frosted eyes there were that lifted altars;
And silent answers crept across the stars.

Compass, quadrant and sextant contrive
No farther tides ... High in the azure steeps
Monody shall not wake the mariner.
This fabulous shadow only the sea keeps.

>>13992725
He was Jewish so being an angel is a long shot.

>>13993740
:(

>>13994002
They had a profound influence on the canon and wrote in Western languages. Their ethnic background is irrelevant.

>>13994002
Well according to Bloom and most academics, they are.

>>13993402
A fitting elegy anon. RIP Papa

>made a post in a bloom thread a month ago wondering "when this old jew will die[sic]"
>he dies
fear my powers mortals

>>13992585

>>13993402
based. RIP Professor Bloom.

>/lit/... the canon... is in your hands
>O, O, O, O!

>>13993963
without it the jew-islam war in the mid east would all turn just like the recent news about the kurds.

>>13993615

Bloom has great taste then

F

>>13993996
>>13993987
They lived in the geographical boundaries of Christendom, "Western Civilization" is cope

>>13992882
I’ve tried to find an explanation for this problem that doesn’t boil down to the academics’ own personal inferiority complex, but I think it really just is resentment paired with theory-envy toward more prestigious disciplines like physics. Embarrassing. Liberal arts > humanities.

>The foundational texts of Christendom include Homer and Plato
based

>>13993694
Take that back. Armond “Honorary” White is top 5 most based men alive

>>13993777
Doesn’t this make you a meta-meta-theoretic jackass? Also checked.

>>13992609
Get out

>>13994064
to >>13994052

>>13992882
I believe the word you are looking for is “masturbatory”

>“You know, I don’t want to be offensive. But ‘Infinite Jest’ [regarded by many as Wallace’s masterpiece] is just awful. It seems ridiculous to have to say it. He can’t think, he can’t write. There’s no discernible talent.”

At least he's with some of his favorite authors now

>>13994109
“But Stephen King is Cervantes compared with David Foster Wallace."

>>13994109
>>13994118
based as fuck

>>13994109
>>13994116
>>13994118
Hack Old Bloom

>>13992585
rip

RIP

>>13994021
>Their ethnic background is irrelevant.
Their ethnic background was jewish, i.e., non-western, i.e., not a part of the western canon, regardless of how many jews like Bloom try to shoehorn them in.

>>13992686
Kek

>>13992585
Rest in peace. Western culture has entered a new era.

F

>>13994175
Arabian Nights was written by Persians and is also part of the Western canon. The Greeks weren't Western but are also considered part of the canon. It's not really racial category as it is a cultural and linguistic one.

>>13994175
>jews are non-western
>but an offshoot of Judaism is

>>13994118
Kek

>>13992585
>real this time

fuckin' hell lads

>>13992585
The last of his kind. Though hopefully others can follow in his footsteps. The canon needs defending. F

Rest in peace, Sifu.

>>13992585
RIP

>>13992585
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I hate /pol/ so much. One of the big three impending deaths of this board happens and there's one poltard replying to every single post in the thread that mentions Bloom defending the canon.

who will replace him?

>>13994239
>One of the big three impending deaths of this board
What are/were the other two?

>>13993815
what is this place and why should i care

>>13994175
Are you retarded?

>>13994244
If he makes an elegy video I might consider subscribing again.

>>13992585
fare forward.

I pledge to shitpost against the DFW complex in Bloom's memory.

>>13994246
Pynchon, McCarthy

>>13994264
I think this is bigger for /lit/ than those two. Bloom was the spirit of the board.

>>13994246
Rupi Kaur and John Green

>>13992686
You've been saving this one for years haven't you?

>>13993656
Holy fuck
I'm dead serious, this poem crushed me. I have to get into English poetry finally...

>see the post
>see the sticky
oh god, it's real isn't it?

>>13992585
There's literally no point to this site now.

>>13990465
>get nostalgic for bloomposting
>10 hours later he's fucking dead
W-what did I do?

RIP

>>13992882
>listening to History of Philosophy podcast
>spends 3 episodes on Chaucer, two of which are about the misogyny within his writing

>>13994273
Bigger than Pynchon? Nah. The spirit of /lit/ isn't embodied in one person, rather it's comprised of a collection of people and general ideas concerning the canon. Bloom was just one of those people and championed the ideas in question. There will be more.

>>13993740
Fare forward, old friend

>>13993656
THIS ISN'T HAPPENING

>>13994264
Add Slavoj Zizek. This board will be unusable when he passes. Jordan Peterson too but he may still have 30 years.

>>13992609
fpwp

>>13994311
To the rest of the world? No. To /lit/? Definitely. I wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for Bloom and I know for a fact I'm not alone in that. There is nobody like him writing now in a major way. Whether someone will take his place remains to be seen.

>>13994197
>Arabian Nights was written by Persians and is also part of the Western canon.
Persians / Iranians are Indo-European peoples. "Iran" literally means "Aryan."

>The Greeks weren't Western
Okay, so you're just retarded.

>>13994198
Christianity is indeed an alien jewish religion.

RIP in piece literature

>>13994324
I mean you're not wrong. These faggots have been the subject of over half the fucking threads here in the past year alone.

>>13994273
>Bloom was the spirit of the board.
False and cringe.

>>13994341
Incorrect

Fuck, i lost my internet for two hours and the first thing i see when i get it back is this

>>13992973
Kind of right. Certainly it was in the US that "theory" became truly fucking unhinged. In the postwar years, first Marxism, then feminism, then poststructuralism, then postcolonialism each provided valid and needed critiques of the blindspots of the Canon. By the 90s, however, a generation of mediocre American scholars had arisen, who believed that such critique was an acceptable substitute for the hard work of reading and understanding the Canon. Together with an envy for the harder sciences, this forged the Literature programmes you all describe. But their days are numbered.

>>13994344
Bloom got a pass here because he didn't take a shit on the canon like most of his kind. But this was because he was silent generation, and he still subverted it in his own way.

>>13994335
The Greeks weren't Western, though. That's partially why Spengler categorizes them as separate from the Faustian civilization.

>>13994311
Pynchon is just a single author writing his own oeuvre. Bloom was writing about the entirety of the canon. Bloom embodies the readership of /lit/, while Pynchon the aspiring writers. At least that's how I see it.

>>13994360
The ancient Greeks were European peoples. European peoples are responsible for western culture. The Greeks were thus western. And you are a retard.

>i will never hear bloom’s opinion of my work
whose opinion is there even left to care about?
Silverblatt please stay safe

>>13992752
Bloom adored Pynchon, he would definitely be in the canon

>>13994378
They were Caucasian but they weren't Western, just like Persians also weren't. Cry more, /pol/tard. Kafka and Freud are part of the canon whether you like it or not.

>>13994356
Oh it's you I thought you'd got bored

A giant among scholars is gone, as of today the struggle will be harder, our burden even greater, but the duty we owe him is a thousandfold!
Let's honour our great teacher by loving literature just as he did, with zeal in our hearts, as if he's beside us!
Την ψυχήν του δούλου Σου, Σώτερ, ανάπαυσον.

>>13994396
They were white, western, European peoples. These are facts, it's not up for debate.

>Kafka and Freud are part of the canon
No, sorry. You are confused, son. Saying the Greeks aren't western but jews are. Lol. Smh at the stupidity around here sometimes.

F

>>13994418
Imagine thinking that a German speaking Jew writing in Prague, whose literary diet was exclusively western since he was raised in a western country, is not a western author. I bet you don’t think Ishiguro is a western author either

>>13992585
How do I train to be the next Harold Bloom? I’m a freshman at Yale studying math

>>13994418
Caucasian=/=Western.

>>13994448
I’m gay if that helps

>>13994431
Western = white, and jews and japs are not white. If you move to China and write a book in Chinese, you will not be considered an East Asian writer; you will be viewed as a westerner writing in Chinese. Western culture is no different.

>>13994376
/lit/ actually reads pynchon tho

>>13994464
What a twit

>>13994464
If I was born in China, was a native speaker of Mandarin, and had read almost exclusively Chinese literature and philosophy so that my whole system of thought was Chinese, then I would be a Chinese writer, and I don’t care whether some dumb chink would recognize that

>>13993828
Absolutely based. Rest in peace, canon man.

>thread has devolved into retards screaming about race shit

how can I even be surprised

>>13994464
>Western = white
That's where you wrong, kid. The Western Canon is about works that were written in a Western language or foreign-language works that influenced the canon like the Bible or Arabian Nights. It literally has nothing to do with race.

>>13994464
>Eastern Orthodox Byzantine / Russian culture is Western

>>13994464
People living in the west and contributing to western culture are part of the west. Pretty much the entire world is Westernized at this point

>>13994485
>I would be a Chinese writer
No, because you aren't Chinese. That you think a white person can become Chinese is absurd and deluded.

>>13994464
So then Eluosi-Zu aren't Chinese despite being officially recognized by the Chinese government as such?

>>13994501
He'd be a Chinese-language writer, though, and at the end language is all that matters.

>>13994490
No, the western canon highlights the work of western writers, meaning writers of European descent.

>>13994497
Sorry, that's not how reality works. Western culture is an outgrowth of European peoples, and European peoples alone.

F

Every medium needs a Bloom. Someone who's passionate, doesn't follow the trends, highly opinionated. Beautiful soul.

>>13993981
>the Greeks and other pre-Christianity parts of the Western canon
>Kafka and the other Jews who are part of the Western canon
>"Christendom Canon"
No.

>>13994503
You aren't Chinese and could never under any circumstance be considered Chinese. You not get to choose to be Chinese or any race other than your own.

>>13994512
>language is all that matters.
Nobody believes this. Ethnicity and race are the drivers of culture, language is just a tool to express it.

>>13994524
The argument wasn't about race. It was about the definiton of "western civilization" and "western canon."

>>13994516
>No, the western canon highlights the work of western writers, meaning writers of European descent.
History has proved you wrong, though, because lots of things in the Western canon aren't by 100% Europeans. Your mind is polluted with /pol/ tier views. You can whine all you want but Kafka will remain in the canon and your opinion will be nothing ultimately.

>>13994516
The outgrowth of European culture is world wide. Anyone living in the USA or Europe are Western no matter what ethnicity they came from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_culture

>>13994532
It was until you were forced to confront the double standard by pretending you could be Chinese if you wanted to be.

>>13994524
No one ever said that people of other ethnicities became white or British or German or anything else. But writings in a particular language, by an author whose mind has been formed by that literary tradition, is part of that literary tradition and canon, not the canon of his ethnicity

>>13994489
A retard, singular.

I'm out, racefags fucked up the thread again. RIP HB.

>>13994534
You are talking about very modern subversion of the western canon. Just as those retracted decisions were made, so will they be reversed.

>>13994540
Europeans create the best culture so we should expect nonwhites to mimic it, but mimicry does not make them white or western.

>>13994530
No, all that matters in the Western canon of *literature* is the written word and should be written in a Western language.

>>13994541
That wasn't what I said. I said the Chinese government considers White, non-"Han" people to be Chinese which is what you were arguing against.

No!

>>13994545
Your argument is weak because you are forced to lie about language being the underlying factor, when language is just a tool. Culture is a function and representation of race.

>>13994556
So the Bible/Arabian Nights/Confessions aren't Western since they weren't written by Europeans? kek it's you against everyone, lad. Your battle is lost.

>>13993219
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>>13994557
You're simply wrong. Language is superficial. The western canon is about western people, not any non-white capable of writing in the language of a given western people. That's nonsense.

>>13994566
>language is just a tool.
It's the life-blood of literature, it's not "just a tool." Clearly you are School of Resentment, but on the white supremacist side.
>Culture is a function and representation of race.
Dumas, Ishiguro, and others prove otherwise.

>>13994570
The Bible was written by jews. It ain't western either, but is representative of the general problem we have had with internal subversion of our culture for a very long time. This is why white people must restore it and ship out the subverters.

>>13994580
OK buddy I think it's high time you returned to your containment board
>>>/pol/

>>13994580
How do you "restore" it?

>>13994579
Language is merely a tool. And non-whites are not western peoples. This is pretty straightforward and obvious. You do not get to pick and choose such things.

>>13994314
It is

>>13994588
I think I said how, didn't I? First step involves disregarding this retarded notion that nonwhites can be a part of white culture.

>>13994574
>Language is superficial.
What a pleb. Language IS the only thing that matters in literature. If you don't favor aesthetics over ideology, then you're no better than whiny cunts on twitter, but you're in fact in their same side.
>The western canon is about western people, not any non-white capable of writing in the language of a given western people. That's nonsense.
No, it's how it has always worked. Your definition is the one that is recent, thanks to postmodern white supremacist views.

>>13994580
>The Bible isn't Western

>There are magnificent writers who have the highest spiritual ambitions: Dante, Milton, Blake. Shakespeare, like Chaucer and Cervantes, had other interests: primarily, in the representation of the human. Though Shakespeare perhaps ought not to have become a secular scripture for us, he does seem to me the only possible rival to the Bible, in literary power. Nothing, when you stand back from it, seems odder or more wonderful than that our most successful entertainer should provide an alternative vision (however unintentionally) to the accounts of human nature and destiny in the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament, and the Koran. Yahweh, Jesus, Allah, speak with authority, and in another sense so do Hamlet, Iago, Lear, and Cleopatra. Persuasiveness is larger in Shakespeare because he is richer; his rhetorical and imaginative resources transcend those of Yahweh, Jesus, and Allah, which sounds rather more blasphemous than I think it is. Hamlet's consciousness, and his language for extending that consciousness, is wider and more agile than divinity has manifested, as yet.
>Hamlet has many enigmas; they will go on being uncovered, just as the theologians and mystics will continue to expound the mysteries of God. There is always less urgency in our meditations upon Hamlet than upon God, and yet I am tempted to remark of Hamlet what the ancient Gnostics affirmed about Jesus: first he resurrected, and then he died. The Hamlet of act 5 has risen from the dead self of the earlier Hamlet. It is the resurrected Hamlet who says "Let it be," rather than "To be or not to be." There are less subtle resurrections in the late romances; I know of nothing subtler in all literature than the transformation and apparent apotheosis of Hamlet.

>>13994574
>language is superficial
>literature
you're a professional retard

>>13994589
If you value ideology over aesthetics you're School of Resentment scum.

RIP

Do /pol/acks get hard at how many people they can piss off? Is that their fetish or something?

>>13994580
>Because the bible was written by Jews, it isn't western.
This is your brain on pure ideology.

FUCK. Just heard the news. I really liked Harold. And one of the only critics I respect and have some use for.

>>13994572
O Captain, my Captain

>>13994596
>Language IS the only thing that matters in literature.
Language is a tool used by the native speakers as part of their culture. It is something they have developed over centuries or longer and reflects their unique nature. A jew inviting some African in and paying him write a book does mean he suddenly becomes those people, but is an interloper using the native people's tool.

>>13994599
The Bible was written by jews, who are a semitic people. Sorry, christcuck.

>>13994638
t. School of Resentment

Now cracks a noble heart.—Good night, sweet prince,. And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!

>>13992771
He was one of the first to have an intelligent take on the problems of marxist and feminist critiques of the arts and essentially what laid the groundwork for wokeness and the cuture of bad faith criticism and journalism it's led to.

He called it the 'School of Resentment', and was absolutely right about it.

>>13994638
Then what about the North African and Semite people who wrote during the Roman era? Do they not count either? Do any of the Roman writers count?

>>13994645
No shit. But it's still part of the Western canon. It's literally the cornerstone. You're confusing Western canon with European-made literature. Look up Western canon. I know it's hard but a /pol/tard to differentiate between the two but Kafka, Proust, and Freud are already canon and there's not a thing in the world you can do about it. Now, fuck off back to whatever shithole you crawled out from.

>>13994650
>School of Resentment
... Was referring primarily to Marxist jews. As an ethnic jew, bloom was restricted from calling them out for who they were, which is partly why his lionization is off base.

RIP muthafukka.

>>13994682
>>13994608

>>13994664
We are going to have to parse this out as we move forward and reclaim our culture.

Feels bad man. Watching this interview again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=276&v=FCeIvt9CDlI

>>13993001
Imagine still reading the msm in 2019, the year of our lord

>>13994682
who cares, nigga...bloom is a legend

>>13994687
wrong. I'm sorry but you're just don't seem to get it, can you clearly elaborate on your problem? this isn't that hard, anon. first time on lit?

>>13994493
i lold

>>13994675
>It's literally the cornerstone.
It's the cornerstone of what set the west back for centuries.
>Kafka, Proust, and Freud are already canon
No, they aren't. And those claiming they are are doing so out of an ethnic agenda. Those are alien people whose inclusion in our culture must come with a big * when we teach 19th and 20th century history to our descendants.

>>13992609
Fuck you.

>>13994704
I get it just fine, chum. It's you who is trying to create fake definitions of western people and culture.

just fucking stop replying to it

>>13994712
Why are you so resentful, lad? You reek of resentment.

>>13994712
Have you read Kafka, Proust, Freud?

>>13994725
so you have given me your problem. it is with fake definitions of western people and culture. but already we are not clear with these terms. I want you to start by telling me what you mean by this interesting word you use, 'fake'?

>>13994734
White people should resent the jews and non-whites distorting their culture, and they have an obligation to take it back and excise those outsiders for promoting this agenda.

zoomer here
what's the big deal? why should i care about this literal who?

>>13994725
>The Western canon is the body of high culture literature, music, philosophy, and works of art that is highly valued in the West: works that have achieved the status of classics. However, not all these works originate in the Western world, and such works are also valued throughout the world. It is "a certain Western intellectual tradition that goes from, say, Socrates to Wittgenstein in philosophy, and from Homer to James Joyce in literature". The word canon is derived from ancient Greek kανών, kanṓn, meaning a measuring rod, or standard. The Bible, a product of ancient Jewish culture, from the Levant, in Western Asia, has been a major force in shaping Western culture, and "has inspired some of the great monuments of human thought, literature, and art".
>The canon of books has been fairly stable, although it has expanded to include more women and racial minorities, while the canons of music and the visual arts have greatly expanded to cover the Middle Ages, and subsequent centuries once largely overlooked. But some examples of newer media such as cinema have attained a precarious position in the canon. Also during the twentieth century there has been a growing interest in the West, as well as globally, in major artistic works of the cultures of Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and South America, including the former colonies of European nations.
You are the misguided one.