/lit/ - Literature

>>13990705
Lol definitely not that one. Diamond is a jew and few books have been more thoroughly debunked.

>>13990705
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>>13990705
not that book first of all.

henry kissinger: diplomacy
Norton anthology of theory and criticism
Hayden white: metahistory
Kierkegaard: fear and trembling
Thomas Kuhn: structure of scientific revolutions

these five will keep you busy for a while. you can build on them later

>>13990705
The only think that JD will make you understand is the subversive revision of history from a specific tribe.

CoC will be a better start of that either way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjaRgALhEdg&t=

>>13990705
Roberts & Westad: THE PENGUIN HISTORY OF THE WORLD
Marx: CAPITAL
that's two
I agree that Kuhn is a good candidate too >>13990751
seven remaining

>>13990762
Interesting points in your screenshot to be fair.

However, I still think that the kinds of animals to be domesticated were "better" in Europe. Llamas and turkeys are nothing compared to chicken, cows or pigs.

>>13990988
You do know that chickens are only a better food source because we domesticated them from while forms, which are nothing like them? Domestication is the A and O. You can domesticate every animals if you really want to. Just like you can domesticate every plant. The fruits you see in europe today are mostly made from sour or even fucking toxic wild varieties. Just take Lupin, which is a brilliant protein, where it's wild form will kill you. Same goes for the south american night shades.

It's not the flora and fauna at fault, it's the lack of evolutionary pressure which made the local people go out of their way to breed them. if you have tasty bananas year round, you will not bother taming and domesticating a zebra - for what even? You have a comfy mud hut, nice food either way and as long as the gods aren't crazy, you can just chill.

In northern europe on the other hand, not going out and breaking your bones to tame animals and the few plants which actually grow here naturally, you and your gen line would die off during a -30°C winter for 4 months. Northern survival is making do with what you have and surassing it by all your might.

So of course after some 20.000 years europeans will have a multitude of easily breedable teendies, while the rest of the comfy world kvetches about geological disadvantages, while never having bothered to even compete.

Llamas not only would give you meat, a perfect carrying animal in the local area, milk, leather and whole, they would alo be able to be breeed into different tasks, just like european horses have breeds for strength, speed or whatever. This takes millenia. Same goes for turkeys. Be honest and you will realise that bitching about this disadvantages is nothing but being the lazy kid which didn't do his homework, now whaling about how it's the smart kids privilige to make it, as he simply didn't have the material to make them (while actually using his school money for some Marvel magazine).

>>13990705
Carl Schmitt - the concept of the political
perhaps get a good introduction to his thought or a annotated version to make the most out of it

>>13991023
personally I will not be impressed with humans until we domesticate the blue whale. If we fail at that we were just a mistake

>>13991046
>tfw nobody thought it important to deep dive the ocean to kill the giangt octopeeds in their own habitat and riding their natural enemy
I say kill em all!

>>13990705
OP here, I meant to say pic unrelated lol
ngl, bit embarrassed right now

Herodotus- The Histories
Xenophon- Cyropaedia
God- The Bible
Plutarch- The Lives of the Noble Greeks and Romans
Andreas Capellanus- The Art of Courtly Love
Machiavelli- The Prince
Hobbes- Leviathan
Tolstoy- War and Peace
AJP Taylor- The Struggle For Mastery In Europe 1848-1918
Herman Khan- On Thermonuclear War
The idea here is to foster a kind of historical empathy, and understanding that the one great constant in all of history is human folly.

>>13991082
Possibly substitute AJP Taylor for Barbara Tuchman- The Guns of August

>>13991082
>God- The Bible
>God-

>>13991098
[1] God, 200 BC, The Bible, Jerusalem Press

The Bible.

You will come to understand the many follies of man that we keep repeating in every society we build. And you will also come to know the only path to salvation.

>>13991082
Honestly, this list is shit because you can'T just read Herodotus without understanding his zeitgeist and that of the stories he tells.
>dude show his buddy a sneak peak of his wife
>wife makes buddy kill husband
>buddy becomes her new hubby and king
Without the context and knowing something about the kind of society this took place, it will seem retarded. Just liek you should know about the richat structure to appreciate the mapping of Atlantis by him.

Same goes for everything else in there. Not even the bible is usefull without context.

Best OP could do is to find his feld of interest and read through the wole field. This naturally will bring him to the next topic on hand, especially if he keeps an eye open for important topics.

tl:dr: Pleb detected.

>>13991103
lol like the tetragram himself came down and penned it himself and then sent several rejected drafts to different agencies? or maybe he just made a complete bible materialize out of the ether?

>>13991147
Choke on a fucking dick you grimy little dweeb. Obviously no ten books will grant a magical understanding of the world. One, there was no "society this took place" in because that anecdote never fucking happened, two, it's very curious that in all of Herodotus that's the part that sticks with you. Do you often find yourself harboring cuckold fantasies? I bet you do. The point here is that OP asked for a list granted a certain condition, and I provided one. Critique his condition all you like but don't whine at me for confining myself to the condition of the thread. Either produce your own list you think superior to mine, or fuck off to make your own thread where you can pedantically whine to your heart's content about """context""" or whatever idiotic shit enters your pedestrian mind next!

>>13991191
Herodotus was simply the first you listed, brainlet. I didn't even bother to go on. OP asked for books which will make him understand the world. Books which already expect you to have a wide understanding of the world, might look fancy to you, but are not what he needs. That's like recommending someone asking for an understanding of Philosophy some Kant book instead of an introductionary work here his position and that of others to each other are marked out as wel as their main views. I'm sorry that you feel so annihilated that you take it as a personal insult, but that's simply a fact. Just like the fact that you didn't even read half of them yourself, you pseud.

Pic related will brig OP dar more than primary sources.

>>13991209
Ohhhh. Forgive me, now I see what game we're playing! Sorry, shitheel, but you didn't realize that to understand your highschool-level history textbook the reader needs to have a working knowledge of the English language, did you? After all, how can anyone appreciate classics like "From Dawn to Decadence" if he hasn't first read such essential texts as "Clifford the Big Red Dog" or "The Very Hungry Caterpillar"? We have to assume that the person trying to understand the world is an abdolute ignoramus who doesn't understand basic facts!

>>13990762
>>13990714
Yes, great, the theories in the book stand on shaky foundations, but they are still interesting theories - that's the reason this book is popular. The novel theories are the reason why it's included in so many university reading lists - they get you thinking. It's not claiming preeminence on the topics it discusses, it's just trying to get you to think alternatively; creatively, yet plausibly. It's not DA JOOS.

But because it's a pop anthro-history book written in language that both Cleetus and SJW's are able to comprehend, it serves as an excellent wrestling ring in which these two types of people can engage each other in defending their own shaky sensibilities.

>>13991279
Sapians is a better pop history book written by a jew

>>13990705
>Pic related
Thanks for the laughs

>>13991259
For all I care, OP can read Culture of Critique as an intro. But I think he would repulse over it, before actually seeing the world as it progressed. All you bring to the table are meme and insults, no arguments against the points I made. I am telling you from personal reflection as someone who as head most of the books you listed, that primary sources are useless for beginners. If he knows nothing, anythingthing basic will do. I started ouf with Dawkins 15 years ago and here I am collecting Catholic booklets and "anti-semitic" original literature. A mind needs to to mingle on a topic to understand it. You can't force feed red pills.

>>13991279
Nah, it's used by universities because it gives them a nice reason to shit on europeans, claiming that it's not them which was great, but just coincidence and privilige, that everybody and Thyron could have become just as great.

If you just like fancy theories, I would much rather read something from Graham Hancock than some subversive Semite, which lies for profite. At least Graham really believes it and makes a benevolent case for all involved.

>>13991092
Barbara Tuchman is hot steaming dogshit, Clarke is the best

>>13990705
Well, not that post-modern propaganda by Diamond, that is for sure! Try this, which explains the reason why books like the one you posted are written.

Do not waste your time on Diamond's book, it is just a propaganda piece. This one is a good place to start...

>>13991341
>I started ouf [sic] with Dawkins 15 years ago and here I am collecting Catholic booklets and "anti-semitic" original literature.
LMAO. This is what's commonly referred to as a "massive self-own." If I ever encounter some poor soul dead-set on inflicting your deranged view of the world on himself, I'll send him your way.

>>13990705
Read Hobsbawn.

>>13991415
And what exactly do you consider a self own in my statement? Reading the selfish gen and his biography? Or just realising that his views in terms of biology do not work in the macroscope? He has since ended up as a fedora multilpicator and after ears of bashing christianity, only hortly before becoming senile did he realise that muslims are the far bigger problem, which he helped all thoe years be deconstructing chrstianity in the west.

And Catholic literature preVatII is in its nature anti-jewish, jew being the deniers of christ and those having his blood on their hands. Maybe, just maybe, instead of using retard memes, try to actually debate and bring forth arguments. Till now the only thing I can see is gettng butthurt that someone pointed out that your list is shit.

(Which it is.)

>>13991414
It's the same exact propaganda piece, even the muh big brained Juden meme is used.

>>13991023
>You can domesticate every animals if you really want to
Retard

>>13991446
Open to this being true but I'd like some sources on the stats.

>>13991341
cringe

>>13991457
Just google the relevant terms and you should be able to get all information provided here.

>>13990705
Any theory of civilizations that presumes all humans want the same things and act the same way will always fall flat on its face. When Nietzsche wrote about the will to power he was only writing about the spirit of Western civilization, and while it's a good descriptor of what drives Western man, it doesn't work for other cultures. "Knowledge is power" is a Western maxim that has no meaning for other cultures; Socrates believed "knowledge is virtue". Guns Germs & Steel is written from a presumption that all humans have a Western nature, to conquer time and space, to conquer nature with technology, and because this is incorrect from the outset, it leads the author to make some very odd assertions and blatant muddying of history, like his outlandish claims about how the Spanish conquered the Aztecs which would make anyone familiar with the period go red in the face.

“The stone is given its existence; it need not fight for being what it is – a stone in the field. Man has to be himself in spite of unfavorable circumstances; that means he has to make his own existence at every single moment. He is given the abstract possibility of existing, but not the reality.”

>>13991455
I can tell you're a skilled cognitive biologist.

The discovery of France is one of the most important historical non-fiction books around. It explains the way the European world worked back during the enlightenment in a way that's necessary to understand where all the thinkers of the day were coming from. All the big philosophical and political theories that shaped the policy-making midwits of the twentieth century was written by the subjects of that book.

>>13991457
Yeah, i'd love to see it too. All I ever see about IQ is people denying it under fear that their/their race's IQ may be lower than the average, or people who post "red-pilled" "facts" about IQ without data or sources

>why nations fail (Dan Acemoglu)
>end the fed (Ron Paul)
>basic economics (Thomas Sowell)
>illuminati (Dan Brown)

>>13991457
I believe there’s a study on SAT results from different religious groups that had good data, but I’m not sure who wrote it. I remember that paper putting those that self identified as Jews in the same range as Episcopalians.

>>13990705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvaxPH3ftUQ

>>13991772
Why is this constantly shilled. That video is literally unwatchable. He speaks way too fast and his points are hard to understand.

>>13991894
Maybe don't be a double digit brainlet? The guy doesn't speak quickly at all fucking lol.

>>13991915
So what were his main points? Africa didn't domesticate animals, they didn't utilize their food staple crops, and they were busy geocoding each other? I also watched it drunk in his defense.

>>13991923
>tl;dr me
Nah, I'm not going to rewatch this age old video for 3h just becuse you're too stupid to undertand it on its own easy terms. Watch it or don't.

>>13991939
So you didn't understand either. Nice

>>13992008
>I'll get him to spoonfeed me by claiming he simply didn't understand
What are you, a womanlet? Yikes.

>Knowledge Trilogy by Daniel J. Boorstin
>Plato - Selected Myths (Oxford World's Classics)
>Maps of Time: An Introduction to Big History
>The Origins of Order: Self-Organization and Selection in Evolution
>The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
>The Philosopher's Handbook: Essential Readings from Plato to Kant
>Quantum Ontology: A Guide To The Metaphysics Of Quantum Mechanics
>Montaigne - Complete Works (This might seem out of place, but it isn't: he encompasses all mankind, and accurately.)
>Penrose Road to Reality (full with advanced math)
The Rise of the West: A History of the Human Community
>The Decline of the West (Unabridged)
>Understanding Human History: An Analysis Including the Effects of Geography and Differential Evolution
>Blueprint: How DNA Makes Us Who We Are
>The Birth of Intersubjectivity: Psychodynamics, Neurobiology, and the Self
>Our Political Nature: The Evolutionary Origins of What Divides Us
>Legality and Legitimacy
>Collapse of Complex Societies
>Trust: The Social Virtue and the Creation of Prosperity
>On Power: The Natural History of Its Growth
>The Myth of Primitivism
>Induction: Processes of Inference
>Quintessence: Basic Readings from the Philosophy of W.V. Quine
>Action in Perception (Noë)
>Metaphor and Thought
>The Legitimacy of the Modern Age (Blumenberg)
>The Sacred and the Profane: The Nature of Religion
>The Idea of the Holy
>Towards the Noosphere (John M. Dillon)
>Damascius' Problems and Solutions Concerning First Principles

>>13990751
why Kierkegaard?

>>13992165
'human condition' stuff probably

>>13990705
"Technological Slavery"

>>13991279
>that's the reason this book is popular.
The reason it's popular stems is its anti-white message and the jewish nepotism of academia and publishing.

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>>13990705
A Troublesome Inheritance by Nicholas Wade is better than that garbage, but the author still does some of the same mental gymnastics that he accuses others of in regards to race denial.
>>13991279
>yet plausibly
Kek. It is popular because it allows people to deny the influence of genetics in the development and status of societies. They feel as though they're educated on the subject and their viewpoints have been credibly reaffirmed, when in reality this book is easily shredded by the slightest critical thought.

>>13991894
He either debunks or casts serious doubt on all of JD's supporting arguments for downplaying the importance of biological divergence in civilizational outcomes. It's thorough and worth sitting through if you care about facts.

Also:
YOU DON'T SNIFF PETROL FROM A CAN
YOU PUT THE PETROL IN THE CAR IT GOES
DON'T BE RAMA RAMA AND SNIFF IT UP YOUR NOSE

>>13992165
you really should do Hegel but Kierkegaard is so much more easy to read. both are a good starting point for later study of heidegger and levinas.
>>13992279

>>13993695
Because Jared Diamond is a moron that fits a single narrative onto a complex issue. Any moron could debunk that without doing any research. At least Diamond tried to create something great (but ultimately failed utterly), while Alt-Hype has created nothing himself other than pointing out the differences between blacks and whites which is apparent.

>>13994034
What a strange, contradictory post.

JD didn't try to create something great, he tried to sell pseudo-scientific propaganda to PC intellectuals/academia and succeeded massively.
Meanwhile Faulk has a catalog of substantial videos, honestly and critically examining a wide range of consequential topics which he's obviously put a lot of time into researching, and you call that nothing. You aggrandize the liar and diminish a man that is exposing lies... Absurd.

>>13991279
Funny how when you get to the bit where you could debunk Jewish subversion and nepotism you resort to DA JOOS

>>13991644
Yet you never see repeatable IQ tests demonstrating high IQ for Jews.

And you chose not to mention that...

Here's some proper analysis

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/08/iq-exaggeration-and-overrepresentation.html?m=1

>>13995038
No I said Diamond was a hack, but was at least ambitious. Faulk makes youtube videos attacking irrelevant thinking but popular people like Sargon and Contrapoints and Richard Spencer and Molyneaux and David Pakman. I have seen nothing innovative from him, even though I agree with most of what he has to say. As a thinker he fails utterly, but as someone who could gather a lot of data then sure he succeeds.

>>13991772
Is that Ryan Faulk? Yay, his balls finally dropped. Remember when he entered debate about race and IQ with the skeptical heretic?
My two favourite quotes from that were;
Ryan: "Fine. Race doesn't exist" (you wish that was taken out of context pol cucks, it really wasn't. He ceded the point because he thought he could still make his argument but within mintues the ass frazzling began).
And;
Also Ryan; "I... I don't know what intelligence is".
Bravo based homosexual sock-coomer.

>>13995300
link?

>>13995318
Here you go bucko.
https://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x40hmz

>>13995318
Hmm, after giving you that link I've realised it says part 2a, b, and c. Not sure how far into the debate this was but there's still a lot there to watch.

>>13990705
i feel retarded that i fell for this book and actually shilled it to my friends. At least I was young.

>>13990705
The Controversy of Zion

>>13992348
This is probably the best single volume anser to OPs question. Covers a multitude of topics, is very important to our modern life and current politics and even offer actual solutions. Further Reading in "Anti-Tech Revolution" is like another chapter.

>>13990762
Honestly the book is bad but that screenshot does a poor job refuting it. No cultural exchange across Eurasia until the 15th century? You've got to be kidding me.

>>13991588
They are correct though. It's ridiculous to say you can domesticate every animal, especially if you go further and imply that they will be useful for building civilization.

>>13990705
I guarantee you Jared Diamond would pivot back to the IQ explanation in a heartbeat if anybody asked him about the Jewish overrepresentation in various fields.

>>13995958
No consequential one. Otherwise you can also argue that Liaf Eriksson and his like can be considered cultural exchange with america.
It would be much easier to coss to subsahara, as many arabic nomads did, than to cross the ural mountains.

>>13991772
The guy who made this video must be retarded.

>>13996167
I doubt it. I get all my information from his videos.

>>13996181
You must have a rich inner life

Overshoot, Catton
A Study of History, Toynbee
Tragedy and Hope, Quigley
The Technological Society, Ellul
Decline of the West, Spengler
Imperium, Yockey

roughly in that order

>>13991023
>if you have tasty bananas year round, you will not bother taming and domesticating a zebra - for what even?
To surpass Gods.
Niggers are incomprehensibly lazy however so it makes sense that they never developed.

>>13991259
Kek

>>13990751
I’d suggest some politology e.g. by Luttwak, although it could be more /his/ related.
Then Machiavelli (Prince, Livy) and Guicciardini

>>13997388
I included kissinger partially because his overview of IR theories. I guess machiavelli would be a good inclusion too, but I dont know what else would be a good general inclusion on national politics since its so nation dependent. for the NL I would recommend het land van kleine gebaren. I think specifically with national politics theory is overrated and only necessary to be able to recognize bullshit.
for an understanding of diplomacy some kind of introduction in macro economics is also required

>>13996167
Why? Because you don't like what he has to say? Here's the list of his sources for that video if you'd like to assess them:
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2019/05/05/guns-germs-and-steel-sources/
You're not a retard, right? So you should be able show us where he messed up.

Also, >>13996181 isn't me. If you're not samefagging, at least mix it up a little... Listen to Edward Dutton once in a while, he and Woodley do a regular show which presents an excellent non-PC academic perspective.

>>13991894
Why is GG&S constantly shilled? Why did they make that obvious pseudo-science into a documentary and curriculum material? Why did they give that lying sack of shit a pulitzer for such garbage?

>>13997499
>Why? Because you don't like what he has to say?
Because he cannot articulate himself and his video severely lacks structure.

>>13997842
>he's speaking too quickly
>he's using big boy words
>he's structure doesn't make sense
Is it just me or are you just a monkey brain? Non of this even remotely true. Just tell us that english is your third or forth language.

>>13990705
Invisible Cities
Marcovaldo
and 8 others

>>13990762
Is there any good book that serves as an antithesis for GG&S? I don't want any of your Alex Jones schizo bullshit but some well received book that has actually served well offering an opposing argument for this to mainstream media.

>>13997983
Those well read about those topic usually stick to anthropological studies or other scholar reading. Books are early always made by pop scientists to appeal to wide audiences, so you will be hard pressed finding anything up to current science.

Best you can do is follow the people which work as multiplicators on youtube and eat your way through the actual mountain of studies and comments.

But tell me what eactly your interst would be and maybe I can check if I find some more objective books on those topics.

>>13997983
>Is there any good book that serves as an antithesis for GG&S?
Erectus Walks Among Us

>well received book
Pic related

>>13998033
"Morally Evolved” by Frans de Waal, is not as politically incorrect as Erectus, but one can read in between the lines.

>>13998001
>Books are early always made by pop scientists to appeal to wide audiences
Thru dat

I would like some alternative explaining on, for example, why if mankind surged in Africa and civilization in Asia, Europe managed to developed incredibly fast, preferably with accurate research on preindustrial Europe so it is clear (or not) that Europeans were ahead of the curve even before the gigantic push that was the steam engine.

>>13998033
On my reading list. However, from what I understand it is mostly a treatise on biology and their corollaries applied to mankind are actually published on "Descend of Man".

>>13998077
go for The Human Web: A Bird's-Eye View of World History. the book for undergraduate global history students

>>13998077
>applied to mankind are actually published on "Descend of Man"
That's correct. However, if you start quoting that book, you will be told that it is "racist sexist pseudoscience", or something like that.

>>13998077
Hm. I'm personally into the pre-history subject which thinks of civilizations in cycles, as shown by the Göbekli Tepe and Arkheim structures, so it's hard to pick the spot of civilization. Especially as if we consider the indo-europeans and the fact that modern humans have been around for over 200.000 years, yet we only know the last 6.000, 10.000 being already mythical ages.

How well versed are you on the topics of steppe nomads and the yamnaya culture and into what they have broke up, leaving all their myths and technology shattered around multiple continents? This might ge a good intro to start your journey as knowing the migrational patterns explains their global superiority.

But on a more basic biological view, it's easy enough to explain european supremacy by evolutionary pressures. Unlike most of asia and let alone africa, europe had such hard climates that only the most big brain nibbas survived. Couple this with the neanderthal admixture and you got yourself a pretty nice combo for succes. Where life is easy, evolution is slow, where it's hard and dealy living creatures mutate much quicker due to only the quickest adaptors being able to reproduce with the beneficial genes.

And do not skip the middle ages (falsely called the dark ages), it's the true cradle of science and the black death, reducing human numbers further made the survivals skyrocket.

To understand the reason why we are where we are, no single book will give you hat you need. Start with people like Survive the Jive, Edward Dutton and Asha Logos. With the relevant key terms you can easily check NCBI or google scholar for what we have science wise. Try to understand studies, methologies and the common "mistakes" in them. It gets easier with time and it's worth the exercise.

Sorry that I can't help you out with a one book for all, but maybe this can be the beginning of a nice journey.

>>13998155
Cro-Magnon: How the Ice Age Gave Birth to the First Modern Humans
The Horse, the Wheel, and Language
Indo-European Poetry and Myth
World of Odysseus
Europe Before Rome
Understanding Human History: An Analysis Including the Effects of Geography and Differential Evolution
The Lost World Of Old Europe: The Danube Valley, 5000 3500 Bc

>>13998200
Yes, those are mostly good works and tehre are many else out there, but if he doesn't have the slightest idea about any of those terms, a visual representation will be much more usefull to get a first impression, esecially about the migrational patterns.

>>13998155
>>13998200
Thanks for the recommendations, mate.

I'm Mexican btw.

>>13998764
In this case you might like Thor Heyerdahls works, especially the book "Lasst sie endlich sprechen" which speaks about the old south american myths of red haired people arriving and leaving after impplementing some useful ideas. Especially when considering that the polynessians actually did have red hair (not the savages currently beeing called native kiwis) as shown by genetic tests. Check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqci_tXGn94&t=

>>13990705
>books to understand the world

>guns, germs and steel