/lit/ - Literature

>>13988634
Reactionary site home to reactionaries, more at 11.

Jesus christ you made an entire thread to point out that 4chan is full of illogical contrarians?

>>13988634
No threads are up right now talking about Houellebecq or DFW seriously. Its just a meme thats untangible to you kys.

>>13988634
Those things are more interesting.

these are called "subcultures". if you wanted to pretend to be normal you'd go somewhere else

>>13988639

But how does that happen? And how is the particular meme decided upon for each board?

How did /lit/ become probably THE internet hotspot for Guenon-related topics? That one gets me the most. Why Guenon? Of everyone in the history of Western thought, why him?

Breaking news: 4chan is contrarian and full of edgy teenagers. Also,

>Deleuze approaches normal but he's still a bit out there

Only on the fucking internet lmao. Do you think one out of ten thousand people try to read Deleuze in their entire lives?

4chan is a dialectic, but of a certain demographic of retards, that's it.

>>13988650
One guy starts spamming a particular meme and it becomes accepted when people realize how stupid it is.

>>13988634
I haven't seen a non meme DFW thread on here in ages. Does anyone actually discuss his work anymore?

>>13988634
I think you need to lurk more.

>>13988634
Nah, it's just pseuds and larps tend to be more vocal

>>13988634
Fuck you, I love my miat and wouldn't drive anything else

>>13988656
Retardialectic of pee, poo, and the peop

>>13988650
Unironically you need to lurk more as this poster has stated >>13988699
Board culture shifts, dramatically, I first started posting in here in 2010 or 2011 I can't remember but there was a very different spat of memes on here at that time and people were talking about different things as the current 'in' thing to talk about. It just changes over time and you can't really just say like 'oh lit like Guenon, and Whitehead' if you stay here long enough those names will shift and change. /pol/ used to be nothing but but endless edgy libertarians spamming Ron Paul memes. Now it is nazis, things change, times change.

I don't really understand what you are trying to get at with this post, the board is full of weird people who have weird idiosyncratic thoughts about everything, so they rally around certain ones from time to time. A few years ago nobody on /biz/ was interested in LINK they were all into other shit. Just lurk more.

>>13988721
Yeah, what does OP think we should be driving? Alfa Romeo? MG? Honda S2000?

>>13988650
>How did /lit/ become probably THE internet hotspot for Guenon-related topics?
It took a long time. /lit/ had a serious Evola phase before Guénon was even mentioned here. Before that it was sympathy towards right wing authors, occultism and traditionalism. There was also a (very long, in my memory) Stirner phase at some point. Even before that it was unconventional readings of Nietzsche perhaps, and roughly at the same time a handful of postmodernists like Pynchon, DFW, Tao Lin if he counts.
People like Aquinas and Kierkegaard have also been floating around for quite some time.

The fundamental mechanic is that of piggybacking under constraints. 4chan is intrinsically contrarian which, in our time of everchanging mores, means merely being about 6 months ahead of the mainstream mediatic zeitgeist. Add to that the piggybacking dynamic (one thing leads to another, and as you practice a new author that author becomes more and more the background or the default for you, so that other authors are pushed aside to make way for disciples and acquaintances of that newly crowned writer) and you get a memetic focus that slowly drifts towards more obscure (and and often rather right-wing, but in practice mostly just extreme) writers. The main criteria for retaining an author is how easily he can be memed, but of course posting history plays a big role. Some things are memed merely by virtue of having been forcefully memed for long.
Also /lit/ doesn't read a lot but those who read still have some influence on the board, so the writers picked as memes du jour are increasingly abstract and harder to read (which ties in with the drifting to obscurity).

>>13988639
We are not illogical or contrarian.

>>13988634
Nothing wrong with Heterodox

>>13988634
>/biz/ - Cryptocurrency instead of normal investing
This one is easy. Normal investing requires thorough research, patience, an ability to read financial statements, caution and prudence and lots of other attributes nobody on 4chan has

>>13988634
>let's be lukewarm normalfags
Get the fuck out

>/a/ - Moeshit instead of classic or popular anime
This is utterly untrue, /a/'s main discussion centers around currently anime.

>>13988634
>/classical/ on /mu/ - Schnittke, pre-Baroque composers, Part, etc.
??

>>13988650
Guenon was spammed by one guy, but apart from that he does exist at the nexus of three trends on this board: traditionalism, esoteric metaphysical shit, perennialism. The trad thing is very popular here but he's not edgy like Evola, he became Muslim, so he has wider appeal, and despite people calling him a meme I've read some of his metaphysical stuff and there is no way to honestly call him bullshit if you're defending people like Deleuze, he's at least mostly just repeating ideas from world religions.

I personally don't like that type of metaphysics, I don't like anything at all to do with these notions of absolute truth and being and whatever, but the only reason people shit on Guenon here, apart from his being spammed, is that academia doesn't take him seriously. I know this because the type of people who shit on him will lump him in with Spengler, indicating that they have not read either of them even superficially, they just know that both are unfashionable in the academy.

Of course it's the very fact that Guenon is unfashionable that made him a likely object for meme status in the first place, that being the point of this thread, but it's not an accident that he was one of the people who ended up being popular.

>>13988653
do you think one out of ten thousand read Kant? Heidegger? Levinas?

>>13988634
Shut the fuck up. You're not intelligent, you're not well-read, you picked up this "hobby" after reaching college, that is, if you even read and finish more than four books a year. You are not special, your opinion is worthless, your thread is futile. Just leave moron, there are actual smart posters on this board and a million of proles like you will never amount to even one of them.

>>13988634
>Literature - Houellebecq, DFW
When was the last time DFW was seriously discussed here? I can't remember
>Philosophy - fucking Guenon, who nobody cares about IRL, and Whitehead, Deleuze, etc. Deleuze approaches normal but he's still a bit out there, and he's way overdiscussed here.
The most commonly discussed philosopher on /lit/ is fucking Plato

/lit/ is hardly the worst, compared to somewhere like /mu/

>/classical/ on /mu/ - Schnittke, pre-Baroque composers, Part, etc.

I was at a concert where some of Part's works were performed. It was in a cathedral, the archbishop was present, the event got reviewed in the news. How the fuck is Arvo Part contrarian? Is this burger cultural landscape thing again?

>I wonder why that's the case. I used to think that the most resilient ideas come out on 4chan because it's essentially an open battleground - but it seems it's always the most meme ones.

You’re answering you’re own question here
resilient ideas=meme ideas

>>13990442
maybe /mu/ 6 years ago. They just talk about popstars and rappers now

>>13988634
I miss Bloomposting. The fat jew bastard was all the rage here once. Now he's forgotten. I wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for me getting redpilled by reading his books in my uni library and subsequently getting told off by my lecturers for citing him in essays.

>>13988634
>Schnittke
https://soundcloud.com/psllbof/fugue-in-g-major-a-3

>>13988634
Who is Schittke, Petzold is the real deal

>>13988634
They all love Bach in /classical/, and he's completely normie, but yes I generally see you are point

>>13990418
Who was the guy that spammed Guenon threads? What do we know of him?

>>13990555
pretty sure he's an arab, or maybe Iranian

>>13988634
I'm a Miata-driving moe-loving LINK-invested racist ancap. Feels good ticking all those boxes.

>>13988634
>/biz/ - Cryptocurrency instead of normal investing
/biz/ was literally only created to give cryptofags somewhere to post

>>13990053
>There was also a (very long, in my memory) Stirner phase at some point.
It was very long, yeah. The Mira Gonzalez shilling was in full force around that time too.

Then we entered the brief age of Christchan, which was pretty funny until christposters started getting banned on the spot. Ah, so much has changed

>>13990579

a living meme...