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Marx and Whitehead

Vegan Gains

Animal Liberation: A New Ethics for Our Treatment of Animals

t. slave morality faggot. we are at the top of the food chain there is no reason to go vegan. plus if we stop eating them they will get eaten by other animals anyway.

>>13980828
Have you ever killed before?

>>13980930
>t. slave morality faggot
I want to crush your skull with a large hammer. How is resisting the norm of eating meat slave morality, you insolent fool? How is deciding your diet upon your own virtues slave morality? 90% of the population eats meat you autonomous slave.

>>13980828
>not killing your own meat
lmao fucking faggots

>>13980990
you're angry because you know he's right, and it hurts

In what way would being vegan actually benefit you anon?

>>13981007
Not so.

>>13980828
>I don't want to eat cute fluffy animals
>This has something to do with philosophy

ITT: Retards not understanding the idea is to take better care for animals. Even if the entire world went vegan, it still doesn't solve shit like animal lab testing. Big corporations just want to cut corners and dump all their animals in a basement.

>>13981014
I want to save the animals

>>13980828
>Tfw you know that the avarage human could not kill a cow to survive and feed his family. Vegans btfo

>>13981036
Plot twist: you're a retard.
Current veganism isn't just about diet but about human's treatment of animals.
Lab testing would therefore be solved by no one buying products tested on animals anymore.

why are those workers being such assholes to the animals :(

just do it! i've been vegan for 4 years. i'm rooting for you friend

>>13980990
I'm no vegematic, but this is true. Master morality means accepting yourself as the arbiter of right and wrong because it is your nature, and not requiring any further justification for doing so.

So unless you've become a veggie due to dictat, peer-pressure, resentment of meat-eating chads, or just being a pussy (unable to accept death in the cycle of nature), it's not slave-morality.

feels good eating meat from an animal that you raised and killed yourself. Cityniggers will never know this feel.

>>13981059
Research into Buddhism/Tibetan Buddhism/Dzogchen/Chan/Taoism. You will find plenty of literature on compassion with all living beings along with practices on how to come to the realization. Once you liberate yourself, you will have the door open to liberate other beings, including animals.

>>13981332
>meat eating chads
dude the majority of the population is meat eating lmao. going against the values of the brainless philistine masses is based.

>>13981332
what if I come at it from an aesthetic point of view seeing the process of animal agriculture and meat eating as brain dead and barbarous?

>>13981014
I mean, most people eat way too much meat anyways. I've never gone vegan, but going veggie for a few weeks at a time would probably benefit most first world pig-people. You ever try it? Feels good, man.

>>13980930
>slave morality
You could've had a point here in that the choice to go vegan is often performative, but then you pranked yourself talking about the food chain. Now we all know that you don't understand the only philosopher you ever skimmed the wikipedia page for.

>>13981266
Material circumstance. It pays shit, but it's "unskilled" labor and it's the only kind of job some people can get. It's going to desensitize you eventually. A large majority of slaughterhouse workers develop PTSD or PISD (perpetration induced stress disorder) from having to cut the throats of hundreds of animals a day.

The only vegan reading you should be doing is recipes, ingredients, and nutritional information. The rest doesn't matter

>>13981495
Solid reply. Indian food recipes are the best vegan cooking imo. Lots of spices, cheap ingredients, large portions, filling, good taste, and pretty easy to make.

>>13980828
You got propagandized lmao. Kill yourself instead of reading.

>>13981332
master and slave morality are both debased. what have you done to overcome man today?

>>13981111
This idea that if everyone went vegan, the animals would be saved is so strange. Like, first of all you're not gonna get everyone to do that. And secondly, even if you did and every cattle farm became unprofitable overnight, what do you think the companies would do with the cows? They're not just gonna set them free lmao. Bessy's gonna get liquidated.

It's like thinking banning plastic straws is gonna stop pollution and climate catastrophe.

>>13980930
You had a point at the start, you should’ve said something more like “I like eating meat, vegans can suck my dick”

Only edgy cringelords turn vegan.

>>13981545
XR is peak obnoxious radlib bullshit. I was walking behind a kid in the street the other day who was explaining XR to his mom trying to get her to agree to let him get arrested. It was the most embarrassing thing. I hate them so much. There's a reason their ranks are made up of ancient boomer libs and millennial #resistance types.

>>13981495
Pretty much. Ignore the politics.

>>13981538
that may be but in the long run the whole process of factory farming will be over
>>13981593
>ignore politics
by doing that the suffering of the animals will only continue anon

>pseuds dont understand what 'eco' 'logical' means
https://youtu.be/WvhM8Lc9m-o

>>13981506
how is that propaganda?

>>13980908
What this anon said. Singer is a great read.

>>13981360
No, being different 'just because' or due to an inferiority complex is not based. Deciding that it's wrong based upon your moral determination -- not the abundance of people who either agree or disagree with you -- is based. The difference between ressentiment (resentment) and sentiment.

>>13981465
Then I would say you've abstracted yourself away from nature to an absurd degree. We should be noble and minimize the suffering we cause, but not to the extent of living in denial of fundamental realities of life. Perhaps one day technology will make us transhuman and we can truly rise above it all, but we're not there yet.

I grant though, many of the practices in that documentary are unecessarily barbarous. We have the means to do way better.

>>13981518
Sounds like you're in denial. Anyways, without knowing your alternative standard of morality, it's difficult to argue the point (debased relative to what?).

>>13980828
Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach

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>>13980828
Go Jain vegetarian. That way you don't have to get rid of animals which are dependent on humans but also don't abuse them or create more dependent animals than necessary. It also stops you hurting bees and plants and bacteria as much.