/lit/ - Literature

Old ginger is spicier

>>13970815
Imagine being a woman...

>>13970864
>>13969376
>>13969854
Compromise.

>>13970798
OP is a faggot.

Gib sf with this feel

>>13970798
I want recommendations, what are the sff 5/5 or books close to that, that you have read boyos?

>>13970923
That doesn't help you at all unless the person recommending is similar to you, which seems unlikely to be the case in general. All you are actually asking is what other people like.

>>13970967
You must be great at parties.

>>13970978
As great as you are at soliciting the information you want. If you say what you like there's no basis for judgment. You could have at least asked for 5s that are not extremely popular or regularly recommended. Because otherwise that's basically all you are going to get .

>>13970986
*don't say

>>13970923
Nine Princes in Amber
Neuromancer
The Dying Earth
Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn
Doorways in the Sand

>>13971036
*And if you like satire, Snow Crash

>>13971036
Thanks my good man.

Keep it coming boys.

>>13970923
Don't think I've ever read a 5/5, there has been lots of books that I've loved reading but they have obvious flaws. When I think about it, it actually doesn't take a lot to please me when I'm searching for a book as long as it isn't terrible, I'll probably read most anything that is, provided it isn't an authors self insert fantasy, which publishers seem to put out more and more shamelessly trying to steal shekels of the teenage girl market while fraudulently categorising them in the 'fantasy' genre.

>>13971296
Which genre should those books be in then?

Is all of Black Leopard Red Wolf written like the first chapter?
It's very good but there's no way I'm gonna be able to read it right before going to sleep if so

Any recommendations for books with the same feel as A roadside picnic. Looking for more of that twilight zone/ Horror fever dream vibe the zone had. Really tickled my pickle.

>>13971384
Read his other works (The Doomed City for one is their magnum opus).

>>13970961
Made this 4 you guys.

Today, I finished Shade's First Rule, and Book 21 of Desolate Era.
I'm now reading City of Dead Sorcerer off a recommendation but I am not sure if I want to keep up with it

>>13971308
Jewish Literature

>>13971308
Go away, Brandon

>>13970923
Hyperion

The Culture books

finished a canticle for liebowitz earlier in the week. can't say i enjoyed it, apart from the first story. it struck me as fundamentally misanthropic, because every story besides the first one (about brother francis) really had the main theme of "humanity bad". and then at the end of the book, implying that the head growing out of a mutant's shoulder is a perfectly innocent creature that is the hope for future mankind or something was really ugly and vulgar imo.

i guess you can call me a brainlet and assure me the writer inserted a lot of hope and positivity about humanity in the book but to me the fact that he chose to end it by just having a stupid bumbling humanity blow itself up in a second nuclear holocaust is all i need

and after the first story, the two abbots' constant inner emotional whinging and handwringing about how bad humanity is became tiring.

all in all, don't have any complaints about the quality of the writing, just found the book an unpleasant experience.

>>13971405
already in the backlog. From what I know, it doesnt have the scifi alien elements Roadside picnic had. The whole SCP website reminds me of it, just need a well written book in the same vain.

/sffg/, I'm shocked how bad my writing has gotten. It's egregious enough that I'm starting to wonder if I've developed brain damage

>>13972009
It's entirely possible that your perception of writing has changed but it has not. You'd need someone else to verify.

>>13971915
I agree, the whole thing was very bleak and pessimistic and the head thing was pretty bad. I did enjoy reading it despite the misanthropy, but good god was that misanthropy strong.

I usually assume you guys are exaggerating but Kingkiller Chronicles really gets cucky. It is a very frustrating read.

>>13972187
Pretty much all the commonly recommended stuff here aside from the chink shit and LitRPGshit is cuckshit. I can't tell if these threads are actually full of cucks or they recommend it ironically though.

>>13972187

>Geez Denna is a whore
Oh wait she is literally a prostitute.

So they are mostly books about a cuck telling stories about him shamelessly chasing a loose cunt.

>>13972187
Cuck author can't resist making his self insert a cuck too.

>Nine times out of ten, if a girl gets raped, it’s at least partly her own fault.

What the fuck Bobby

/sffg/ on life support

>>13966502
>Yes, that requires serious 1337 coding skills, lmao.
Paste epub into Calibre and click convert with your amazing coding skills.

3 weeks until discussion.

>>13971989
Doomed City have some of the same elements. I honestly think Roadside Picnic is better, Roadside Picnic is timeless while Doomed City is bound to the time it was written in with its allegories and criticism.

>>13972801
Not saying that quote is not based and redpilled but Heinlein really went of the deep end sometime during the early 70s.

>>13972801
>Nine times out of ten, if a girl gets raped, it’s at least partly her own fault.
Based

>>13971989
Annihilation is spooky atmospheric aliens

Im currently at book 4 of the wheel of times series and oooh boy, i dont know if i can finish it. I dont know how to best describe reading this, but its exhausting. I usually read fiction 1 or 2 hours before i got to bed, and usually im looking forward to this. But since i started the series i actually lost interest in reading at all.
Does it get better or should i just stop?

Also, wtf is wrong with the women in these books?
main character hast litteraly the weight of the world on his shoulders, yet this girl is bitching about him not showing enough affectioon
Every woman in the books seems to be fucking insane...

>>13973118
you've not even gotten to the weaker books yet if you feel like this now stop

Anything similar to pic related? Preferably Sci-fi but anything is welcome. Movies too

>>13973118
Here's a good rule of thumb for you: if an author can't tell his story in less than 10,000 pages, it isn't worth reading. Quit while you're ahead -- you're still in the "good" part, believe it or not.

>>13973134
Black Sun Rising

>>13973118
Just drop it, you've read the best books in the series already.

>Also, wtf is wrong with the women in these books?
The whole thing is heavily influenced by Jordans view that women are form Venus and men from Mars (and by his wife being an absolute harpy). Whenever there is any interaction between males and females they all act like absolute retards.

What's the /sffg/ equivalent of pic related?

>>13973178
I wonder about this one a lot. PKD presents some wild mindfuckery but that's about all I can recommend off the top of my head. Egan has some crazy stories but they're weird more in the conceptualization and not the end result.

>>13971384
Don't sleep on the snail on the slope

>>13973188
Hmm, how about anything similar to this?

>>13973126
>>13973137
>>13973155
Holy shit, it gets even worse. Ok, ill drop it. I only wanted it to read, cause i heard amazon wants to make a tv-show out of it anyways.

>>13973287
>i heard amazon wants to make a tv-show out of it anyways
Yeah, I'm sure it will be amazing.

>>13972142
>>13971915
But humans a shit. I wish I could be president of the United States, just so I could start WW3 and wipe humanity off the face of the universe.

I'll never read anything that is as good as Wolfe again ;(
Long Sun was my favourite

Uh oh, think I'm starting to really like Alastair Reynolds
Read House of the Suns a while ago (a bit slow)
Started Revelation Space now (seems less boring)

>>13973366
You can always search for more catholic science fiction if you want.

>>13973384
Sorry to break it to you, but House of Suns is one of the best of Reynolds'. Revelation space is decent, but prepare for some very forgettable characters (except for based Volyova).

>>13973384
Oh boy... You just made cosmerefag smile by posting this.

>>13973151
>the first in a trilogy
Yeah thanks but I want singular works

>>13971036
>Nine Princes in Amber
Cringe bleysposter
>Neuromancer
Has been surpassed, but deserves respect for what it invented
>The Dying Earth
Based
>Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn
Haven't read it yet, but it's high on my to read list
>Doorways in the Sand
Cringe
>>13971050
No wonder you choose what is among the worst stephenson books
>>13971384
Read Hodgson for fever
>>13971681
>Book 21 of Desolate Era
I am glad I am not the only one to have subjected myself to this garbage
>>13972187
>>13972313
>>13972462
Yeah, Rothfuss is great, but have you tried Catharsis (Awaken Online, #1)
by Travis Bagwell (Goodreads Author)
>>13973016
Based, Vandermeer is like Gaiman in that he is among the few redpilled authors that are also mainstream
>>13973118
Yeah your generic high fantasy is great, but have you tried The Land: Founding (Chaos Seeds, #1)
by Aleron Kong (Goodreads Author) (shelved 441 times as litrpg)

ALLRIGHT FAGS. Have you read based Olga Tokarczuk yet? Now that she won the Nobel prize I expect to see Archangel conspiracy theories here.

The same people who read contemporary fantasy or sci-fi are the ones who call xianxia garbage ..

The last post just recommended bad litrpg too

>>13973600
>Xianxia and some extremely trashy looking LitRPG
Opinion invalidated and discarded.

>>13970923
scifi must-reads: Dune, Hyperion, Neuromancer, Forever War, Ender's Game, War of the Worlds, The Left Hand of Darkness.

I an currently rereading "Acacia" by David Anthony Durham after having read it many years ago. I have to say that so far it is much better than I remember. And the sequel "The Other Lands" is out now too. I remember being pretty pissed off when I had finished Acacia and found out there was no closure at all and the sequel wasnt out yet.

>>13973923
>>13973934
Brainlets immune to sarcasm: lurk more
It's like you know what you will think about a post before you even read it

>>13974006
Poe's Law

I can't wait to hear people's impressions when they read Dune books now that there's a new movie in the works.

>Arabs
>Oil
>Sand

>>13973939
isn't that kinda the thing with science fiction, though? there are WAY more formative must-read books than there for fantasy.

Is Harry Potter essential fantasy?

>>13974074
Essential YA maybe. Kind of redundant to recommend it since everyone in the appropriate age bracket has already read it.

>>13974091
I was 11 when the first book came out and never read any of them or watched any of the movies or had any involvement at all. "Everyone" is never correct. Not even 90%. There's a large percent who simply never read at all either.

>>13974105
jesus christ go back to whatever social-aggregate you came from, you pedant abortion reject

>>13974118
That's quite the reaction.

>>13974074
I recently watched the movies and I will say I was impressed byhow dark shit ultimately became. I wouldnt have expected that from the tone of the first book which was the only one of the series that I read, and that was many years ago. Still not sure if I should invest the time andread the books. I recently read all the Hunger Games books and then watched the movies and I have to say the mmovies were at least as good as the books. The effects were truly amazing for once. When I saw that flame thrower trap in the city that was a genuine holy shit moment.

>>13974060
Much as I enjoy Dune I've always thought the attempts to turn it into a big scifi blockbuster were doomed from the start because it fundamentally won't work for a mass market. It's too weird, too much of it consists just of people talking, and it's too ambiguous in morality. Plus none of the books have a really conclusive ending until God Emperor of Dune, which is one of the few books I consider genuinely unfilmable. I think your average Star Wars fan who goes in wanting to see a coming of age story interspersed with sandworm fights or Game of Thrones fan who wants to see epic political maneuvering is just going to walk out bored or confused. Dune has a very solid place in its niche as alpha dog of big weird scifi books, but I don't think it can reasonably expand beyond that.

>>13974150
What are some other "big weird scifi books"?

>>13974068
Yeah I guess Fantasy still has some growing up to do before it is taken seriously. Also teh overall quality just isnt there. Just look at how many fucking physicists, doctors, uni professors, international top level astronomers and NASA employees wrote science fiction. Fantasy cant compete with that.

>>13974148
>I recently watched the movies and I will say I was impressed byhow dark shit ultimately became. I wouldnt have expected that from the tone of the first book which was the only one of the series that I read, and that was many years ago. Still not sure if I should invest the time andread the books. I recently read all the Hunger Games books and then watched the movies and I have to say the mmovies were at least as good as the books. The effects were truly amazing for once. When I saw that flame thrower trap in the city that was a genuine holy shit moment.
Rowling said she took inspiration from german fairy tales. They start innocent but turn really dark. They basically are GRI but in stories aimed at children.

>>13974155
Alastair Reynold's Revelation Space serie certainly qualifies. I liked Chasm City best, and that book is nothing if not weird.

>>13973178
bump

>>13974174
Chasm City is the only RS-material I haven't read. I have no interest in its premise and FUCK SHADE

>>13974150
I wish someone picked it up as a high budget series instead. Action flick with Dune skin on top of it simply won't work.

>>13971681
>City of Dead Sorcerer
Isn't that a manga? I read that years ago, but the translation speed is so fucking slow. The author's other manga are good too.
Desolate Era is great, it's one of the few consistently good web novels that I've read, and like one out of three that I actually finished.

>>13974278
It's a webtoon.

>>13970923
BotNS 5/5
Hyperion 4.5-5/5 depending on your taste
Lord of Light 5/5
Dune 1-5/5 depending on your taste

Every other rec I've seen that I've read has not been a 5/5 but these are

>>13973545
>Gets exactly what he asks for
>Bitches about it like a woman
Then request stand alones you ungrateful über faggot

/sffg/, im getting concerned by my dip in writing quality. even if I tell myself it's fine to write trash, shame and embarrassment are seriously discouraging

>>13974074
you're not obligated to read anything, but its a major cultural touchstone so socially at least you're doing yourself a service by reading it.

as a warning, the books were one of the few stories that took advantage of the release schedule to engage young readers by growing with them. your mileage might vary

>>13973600
>Worst Stephenson book
Name a better sf satire. I'll wait.

>>13974481
Storia Vera or anything by Lucian
Also:
>better
>satire
This is a slippery slope to an oxymoron

>>13974481
desu A Practical Guide To Evil, unironically
It trolled the entirety of /sffg/

>>13974323
Going to grab Lord of Light next time I order books

Why are action/battle/fight scenes in fantasy always so cringe and awful? And not only are they bad, but they last forever because authors insist on describing every movement of every person's limb like they're stage directions. Did these people learn nothing from Tolkien?

Can anybody give recs for fantasy books that do not feature action and instead feature cozy hospitality or dialogue or lore a la Tolkien?

Why do women believe they are unique and interesting individuals for reading Harry Potter?

>>13975195
Bakker

>>13975195
Only for people to bitch when authors gloss over or omit battle scenes.

>>13975224
I've been trying for a while to think of a word for this.
You see the same thing in video games. Why is Zelda so popular with women? It's because it's fantasy, but also very simple and not too high powerlevel. Girls can play Zelda, say "I'm such a nerd" but they know that, actually, the game is mainstream enough that they're safe from becoming actual nerds.
Being a real nerd is still socially taboo, girls just like to call themselves nerds because of The Big Bang Theory.

And I think Harry Potter reaches the same thing for them. It's fantasy, but it's simple and safe. They don't read Lord of The Rings because "that's so lame, just watch the movies". They read simpler, children's fantasy which is socially acceptable within their normie friend circle.
It's like marijuana. People smoke it because they want the coolness that comes with doing drugs, but they don't want to do an actual drug, so they choose the easy mode.

Harry Potter is like a gateway drug but they never actually go any deeper, they just stop at the gate.

>>13975537
spoken like a true virgin

I cannot finish Player of Games by Banks. Why do people like Banks? There's zero characterization (hell he makes character names hard to read on purpose), and the ideas so far just aren't there. I'm not feeling it. Halfway through. I've been reading it for months. Read Consider Phlebas too, and that was forgettable.

Any opinions on the Long Earth series? They're easy reading but Sally gives me violent flashbacks to every girl-power cliche film character from the past decade.

>>13975709
I had the luck of reading the latest Culture book first so mine was a downhill bike ride and not the uphill trek you're experiencing, my sorry friend. Read Excession or the Hydrogen Sonata and if they don't grab you then forget the whole series.

>>13975709
> Smart well written science fiction in the truest sense of the term.
Yeah. No idea why any one would read that ...

Consider Phlebas is certainly the worst Culture book and often tedious but how anyone could dislike Player of Games is beyond me.

>>13975703

>>13975709
Thats interesting, I am probably a brainlet because Player of Games was my favorite.

Someone recommended this. I forget where. Perhaps in the general. It's pretty good. Well at least book 1 is. I'm about to pick up book 2.

It's definitely not treading new ground, or innovating the genre. But it's a nice adventure with some twists and surprises. Kind of predictable and cliche in places, but you know what? Sometimes that's ok, when the journey itself is enjoyable.

It has a pretty autistic magic system that I find satisfying. The magic slowly unravelled as the story goes. It doesn't dump it on you, but throughout the book it feeds you info here and there to get you to understand. It's designed in such a way as to create as much fantasy drama as possible. You can almost tell which plot twist is coming next, by the power characters "spontaneously" begin discussing a chapter earlier.

Character arcs actually resolve. So it's already better than The First Law.

>>13976382
Book 2 is shit. Don't bother.

>>13976382
> Kind of predictable and cliche in places
Kind of?? It is possibly the most generic and clichéd fantasy book I've ever had the misfortune to read. It's a terrible series.

>>13976382
my fucking god i DNF'd that yesterday. got about 1/2way through and there were only 2/25 chapters that I liked asha first seeing the shadow city, and rand, i mean davian going through the void and meeting someone from the past. *maybe* if i were new to fantasy or hadn't read so much so recently it would be enjoyable. I will say that the pacing is great, you can power through a hundred pages easily. but then you look back and think, ok but i don't really care.

>>13974603
Great satire, but not science fiction
>>13974607
>Webnovel
Poor bait

>>13976382
Its entirely derivative of wheel of time

>I had no idea what to expect when the town’s greatest virgin was called for. I really didn’t know how to feel about the fact that, apparently, I was the town’s greatest virgin.

Are either of these series good:
Wayfarers by Becky Chambers
Machineries of Empire by Yoon Ha Lee

>>13975224
>>13975537
>>13975703
>>13976008
you know, sometimes I see posts like these and I wonder what's going through the heads of the people who make them. do you think they're aware that the other person isn't even bothering to argue with them, and is only replying to make fun of them for caring about something so juvenile?

>>13976872
The mature thing to do is ignore it. You'll learn with time.

Why is all the tolkein/lotr art all deviant-art/anime tier?

>>13975224
>>13975537
Meanwhile there are actual unironic retards in this thread who think that chink propaganda webnovels, haremshit, isekaishit and Red Rising is literature. When was the last time we actually discussed an actual book? Oh wait, we're too busy discussing Brent Weeks', chart anon's tight pussy and trying to get recommendations based on Star Wars novels and weebshit. Thanks to the absolute state of retards in nu-/sffg/, Harry Potter discussion would be preferable at this point to the flavour of the month self published cringe shit.

Can somebody recommend me something similar to Vance's Dying Earth (that isn't The Book of the New Sun - I've already read it). I mean high fantasy written with in a very descriptive, purple style?

>>13976938
I agree, let’s talk about Wolfe again for the millionth fucking time. The fact of the matter is, there’s only a limited amount of fantasy “““literature”””” and discussing the same things over and over is neither engaging to talk about or fun to read. Go be a pseud somewhere else.

>>13970923
for sci fi: hyperion, blindsight, forever war
fantasy: cant think of any tbqh. I read more fantasy than sci fi but most of it is really just generic trash and the best works Ive read only manage to be a bit better than that. Maybe book of the new sun (although i didnt like it that much). Actually the first couple books of black company are pretty perfect for me as fantasy books.

>>13977160
LotR/Simarillion is not a 5/5 fantasy book in your opinion? Why?

>>13976382
I enjoyed these books a lot. There’s a bit of a Christian theme and the “God has a plan” conflict vs “Free will” was very fresh

>>13976408
>>13976396
>>13976523
>>13976662
Pea brains

>>13970923
Hyperion and Dune

Fuck, this was good. I need more like this.

>>13977185
I found lotr boring. Maybe I've read too many lotr inspired books that didnt have 300 pages about the elvin language but I was just bored.

>>13977527
just googled this sounds pretty much exactly like man after man

>>13977627
Nice, i'll check it out.

My writing actually turned out okay tonight. There's still a lot of stuff I need to work on, but I think I'm getting up to speed.

Something that's starting to concern me is I have a habit of writing scenes and jokes like I'm writing for a cartoon but in prose form. It's a little juvenile, and the writing style is actually a lot lower quality than I realized. I'm beginning to worry if either this or my first novel would even be considered by a reputable publisher

>>13977561
For what it's worth, I'm behind you anon. Jirt cared way too much about the little details and absolutely nothing for the big events. His brilliance is readily apparent, but despite being the founding father of modern fantasy he's got to be one of the most tedious writers I've ever come across, and his characters almost get no characterization. Comparing the first book to the movies, I was actually shocked how much of Legolas, Gimli, Merry and Pippins's personalities Peter Jackson just had to fucking invent because tolkein didn't do it himself

>>13977185
The first day I started a class at University the professor randomly talked about lotr and the class talked about how great it was. I was the only person who said I didn't like it. It didn't go over well. After I left class that day and was driving back home a car hit me and I ended up having to drop out for that semester.

Guys, i just finished reading the Gormenghast novels and they were by far the best /sffg/ books i have ever read. I am trying to read Lyonesse (they seemed very comfy) now but Vance's writing feels so boring compared to Peake's. His writing feels disconnected, skimming across the surface without taking time to reflect. Like i am not being invited to feel for his characters, you know? The explanations of politics and history area also super boring.

Anyways, what would you guys recommend to someone who loved Gormenghast? Does Lyoneed get better later on?

>>13977954
the night land
i hated gormenghast and loved the night land but i think in general people who love gormenghast would love the night land. if the writing is too obtuse to you, look up "the night land: a story retold". it's on tpb.

>>13977155
>Heh, only pseuds don't read my Chinese furry fapfiction

>>13978146
>nooo stop liking things!
>you can only like the things I like!
>you can only talk about the things I approve of
>noooo stop you can’t be doing this nooo

>>13975709
Banks has written a ton oof very different scifi, also some non-Culture books. Try Matter, or Against a Dark Background. From the Culture series I probably like Inversions best.

>>13978146
>chinkshit general fag throwing a fit again
>he still thinks that if a novel can be classified as one of the 15 things in the circle of what he hates, it immediately becomes those 14 completely unrelated other things
>If it's published in an environment full of shit it also has to be shit
>Not even going to bother to read the description

Anyone have a copy of White Sand vol 3 from Sanderson? I hate graphic novels, but they apparently changed the ending and some other things from the prose and I'm too bored not to make a canon text version out of the prose.

>>13978152
>>13978336
r/litrpg

>>13970923

SF: do androids dream of electric sheep

>>13978463
>wake up
>get triggered at some random anons liking a thing you haven't even read the synopsis for
>screech
>go to sleep
>repeat

>>13978517
Implying it's not just you

>>13978530
>literally every timezone
>anons literally contradicting themselves in terms of what is good
>different poster id's
Yeah, it must just be this one anon who likes what I don't!

>>13970798
These threads always have the best opening pics

>>13978343
If you search /co/'s archive, you can find a download link on the first page of results.

>>13977951
One of the rabid lotr fanboys ran into your car after class?
Damn. Those cunts are worse than a cult.

>>13977527
To the anon a few threads back asking about a book with alien modifications. I told you there was an art book with alien creatures?
Well this is it.

White Sand 3 was pretty dull.

>>13975762
I read the Long Earth series a few years back, and you're the first anon I've ever seen mention it here. As far as Sally, you're not wrong.

>>13976382
>So it's already better than The First Law.
As is every other fantasy book ever written.

>>13977919
Stop, just stop. None of us give two shits about your writing. Take it to a writing thread.

Is the His Dark Materials trilogy worth reading?

What novels will give me jrpg vibe?

Why is it that recent books are all sounding the same?
The stories might be different, but they have the same message/vibe passing through them. You guys get this? I can't put my finger on it, but it's in almost everything I read.
Anyone feel seeing this? It's getting annoying.

>>13979790
Wtf is magic gathering?

>>13979790
Memory,Sorrow and Thorn

Sffg dead. Press f.

>>13980077
it did die a few months ago. i was so scared, i thought the mods kicked it out or something, like they did with the al/ck/ general on /ck/

>>13979794
Something about the market.

>>13979794
everyone wants to write like some other previously successful writer. Plus I wouldnt put it past publishers these days to run the script through some deep learning AI program that determines exactly what the ideal noun-to-verb-to-adjective ratio for a "winning novel" is and then demand new authors adapt their stuff accordingly

>>13980077
It's been dead for months. The litrpg sperg derails any conversation that isn't about Will Wight

>>13980422
What exactly is a litrpg? I tried googling it a while back assuming it was some choose your own adventure shit and the definition seems vague.

>>13980422
>2 posts actually about litrpg
>20 posts chinkshit general faggot screeching
>>13980527
Someone play WoW and then writes his experiences down, expect it's VR.

>>13970923
Your 5/5 is always going to be a book which plays perfectly to your own personal tastes, which means you will only ever find it by yourself. Somebody else might think your 5/5 is unreadable shit. If I’ve ever read a 5/5, it’s Red Mars, by Kim Stanley Robinson, and half the people in this thread say they couldn't even bring themselves to finish that book. All I can recommend you are the classics, like Dune. Maybe read some Arthur C. Clarke, if you haven’t already. Childhood’s End and Rendezvous with Rama are both must-reads, in my opinion.

>>13980613
You have a really unintelligent way at looking at things

>>13980730
Do you believe that the quality of a book is objectively measurable?

>>13980749
not him but i believe you're a huge tool

>>13980749
Absolutely.

But that doesn't have to do with anything.

You find exceptional books by finding people that have an exceptional opinion of them. Its a better overall strategy for finding good books, then people recommending you books they don't like becuase they think you might like them, even if sometimes your opinions differ.

>>13980569
It's not just his shilling Crowned every thread. Most of his posts are shitting on anything that isn't self published trash.

>>13979389
If you like YA then yeah give it a try. Personally it didn't resonate with me even though it has a bunch of elements that should've made it a favorite. My recommendation for recent YA fantasy is the Jinx series by Sage Blackwood.

>>13979341
This

>>13980805
>>13980422
You do realise that it's multiple people talking about uncrowned, right? It's a new book. Yall fags said it was also one cunt discussing oathbringer and the great slog by himself.
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean everyone else doesn't like it either, and it's ONE fag that is being a total cunt by not bowing to your superior tastes.

I'm the self published chartfag (the disclaimer one) and I read both traditional and self published. I don't sperg out over Will Wight, nor do I put self published on a pedestal. A lot of self pub books are shit and could do with some more editing, but because they don't have to tow the publishing house lines, we get fresh entertaining books that cover almost everything. Instead of safe repetitive normie approved fare.
You're the one that seems to have a problem, this isn't the first time I see you ranting about will Wight when he wasn't mentioned beforehand in the thread...

>>13980796
>you find fellow sheep who will all bleat along with you

>>13980796
There is a fundamental difference between a recommendation, and an opinion. A recommendation is a proposal. To recommend a novel to someone is to suggest to them that they should read it, which implies your belief that they might enjoy it. Therefore, I cannot in good faith recommend a novel to someone on the premise that it is a 5/5, a perfect novel, without including the necessary disclaimer that this is just my opinion, which is based off of my personal tastes. The original poster included no information about his tastes, so I have no reason to believe that they align with my own. And so, I wrote exactly that. I wrote that I personally am a fan of a specific novel by KSR, but that I have no reason to believe he will like it as much as I did. What else could you possibly expect from me? Should I have promised him that he would enjoy it as much as I did, when I have no reason to believe that’s true? Or are you just calling me unintelligent for being anal about semantics?

Is this book actually good? I get immediately turned off when I see reviews saying shit like "Move over, Tolkien - you had a good run, but it's high time fantasy had a Queen."

>>13981008
Like I said, >>13980730

0-4 Lord of Light
5-9 BotNS

>>13981086
You insulted me, I asked you to elaborate, you wrote a full argument, I wrote a counter-argument, and now you're pretending you never wanted to argue at all. That's what people do when they've lost the argument.

>>13980422
>NO YOU CAN'T DISCUSS A NEW BOOK!
Are you from /v/? Go back there, crossboarder.

>>13981064
I like reading negative reviews on Goodreads and it seems like this book is ok. It's too long, slow, and the plot isn't great. It is a self contained story but at 800 pages I'm not going to give it a try.

>>13981135
You forgot the part where you initiated by telling me how dumb I am for asking for recommendations the way I did. Completely unsolicited.

You could have just stfu and move on.

Yes, it was a mistake to reply to an autistic retard like you.

What I Read Yesterday

Orconomics: A Satire - J. Zachary Pike

3rd day of self-pub, again from the self-pub charts. Winner of the 2018 Self-Published Fantasy Blog-Off (SPFBO).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Published_Fantasy_Blog-Off
Accepts 300 self-published fantasy novels per year since 2015.
Seems don't even have to win to sometimes get a traditional publisher to publish you afterwards. Though of course some would decline even if they were asked.

This too was a (4), the highest rating of "maybe" in my self-pub assessment.
It wasn't quite what I expected. The entirety of the plot is a fetch quest and literally says it is one multiple times . There are a lot of references to other fantasy novels, D&D, and real world issues. The protagonist is a dwarf with a goblin sidekick who is blackmailed into joining a parody of a Chosen Ones adventuring band. The real draw I assume is the satire that surrounds the plot rather than the plot itself or most of the characters, as both the plot and characters aren't particularly notable. The full group is a disgraced dwarf berserker, a competent goblin, a disgraced female elf drunkard addicted to self-harm and healing potions, a lusty thief pretending to be a bard, a male dark mage, a female light mage, a brooding mute warrior, and a scribe who is the self-proclaimed Hero of Destiny. The ostensible antagonist is the necromancer but the actual antagonist is the collusion between the government and investment banks.. The other main satirical element is that the shadowkin, which are goblins, orcs, kobolds, gnolls, ogres and similar are used to demonstrate the marginalization of minorities and the exploitation of third world labor. Later they are used as both the scapegoat for and the solution to all problems for the benefit of the government to solve their social problems and for the profit of corporations who don't want any competition and see them as a resource.

Conclusion: An okay read, though it's quite possible that I won't ever get around to get reading the sequel. If you don't want to read real world satire in your fantasy, then it may not work for you. It's also not a heroic or epic fantasy. It's satirical fantasy. I expected there to be more focus on satire and economics than there actually was.

I like and endorse "blog about what I read today"-kun.

>>13981064
Do you scroll through the archive looking for high bait to repost, or was it you who made that same post months ago?

>>13981395
Didn't you like how the author took real world fantasy organisations and changed the names to a fantasy equivalent?

Hello guys, seems like you are knowledgeable about obscure sci-fi, and cause of that I have a question - what kind of "aliens" was predominantly popular in literature of 1920s and 1930s? I really need to know.

>>13981765
I was indifferent to that. Basically all the references to me were "well thats nice I guess". As stated, I'd have preferred more satire and less fantasy questing. I liked the orc village.

Currently about 70 pages into red mars, liking it so far, does the series get better or worse as it progresses?

>>13981790
20s to the early 30s is what I'd call the second wave of scifi, the first generation of authors who consciously wrote scifi as an established genre rather than as isolated stories. Speaking extremely broadly, I would say that scifi of this period trended towards reusing themes established by earlier stories, and largely I think the general trend continued from the War of the Worlds and John Carter tradition of treating alien cultures as directly analogous to human cultures. Doc Smith is a good example of this trend; look to his Skylark series for a good example. That being said, a prominent number of stories written during this time featured aliens as completely unknowable or animalistic- the most obvious example is H.P. Lovecraft, though he was writing from more of a tradition of horror and "weird" fiction than science fiction. This trend penetrated dedicated science fiction at least a little; some Jack Williamson stories come to mind.


So off the top of my head I would say that scifi stories of the era largely trend towards either extreme of the spectrum- either completely human or completely alien. Towards the end of the thirties you started seeing more middle-ground approaches, partly because writers started entering the field who grew up reading science fiction and were familiar with its conventions.

Though as in all things it varies greatly from writer to writer and editor to editor. John Campbell, for example, hated publishing stories where aliens were shown to be superior to humans, and Isaac Asimov subsequently omitted aliens entirely from many of his early stories just because he didn't want to have the argument.

Is the Vorkosigan Saga really any good? Whenever I see it in used book stores it just gives me such bad vibes like it's the Anita Blake, Vampire Hunter of sci-fi

>>13974434
I literally said thanks

>>13981816
>>13981765
>>13981395
Sorry I meant real life financial organisations and changed them to fantasy.

What are some fun wuxia/xianxia manhwa you've read, /sffg/? I don't even know where to find manhwa/webtoons aside from fucking /wsr/

>>13982292
I know. Goldman Sachs doesn't really even need to be changed much.

>>13982300
Manga - Japanese
Manhwa - Korean
Manhua - Chinese
Obviously /a/
I'm not going to post about the manhwa I've read right now.

>>13982347
or you could just look on various sites that list them out

>>13982364
Could someone redpill me on the Coldfire Trilogy? Is it worth reading?

>>13982380
>redpill
Based on that term, I wonder if you realize that the author is a woman. Does that disqualify the books for you?

>>13982380
There are no pills here, only paper.

>>13982380
Extremely heavy gay undertones. Possible the closest I’ve come to a fujoshi manga in written form. That said, the plot is pretty ok, although I feel the third book is kind of a mess.

I see Scalzi has a new space opera series. Is he good at writing yet? Haven't read any of his stuff since Ghost Brigade.

>>13982502

>>13978821
Appreciate it, anon.

>>13982502
I don't dare touch anything new scalzi writes until someone proves to me they can read it without dying.

>>13982575
That's a big pupper.

>>13982446
>Does that disqualify the books for you?
No. I love the first 3 Earthsea books, Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell , etc. and they were all written by women. I am not a /pol/tard btw.

>>13982446
Please answer seriously.

>>13982469
Well, as long as its only *undertones* i dont mind. Thanks for the answer.

What I Read Today

The Thief Who Pulled on Trouble's Braids - Michael McClung
Winner of the 2015 Self-Published Fantasy Blog-Off (SPFBO).
Roughly ~175 pages excluding the excerpt of the 2nd book and other stuff, though it felt much longer.

4th day of Self-Published from the charts. This is also the last self-published from them for now. I will be doing others, but they aren't actually self-published as I noted at the time.

This is a murder mystery revenge story set in roughly what what would seem to be similar to the late 1700s or early 1800s Europe. The protagonist is a rogue who is a strong independent woman doesn't need a man, or so she tells herself. There's magic, but no system, it mostly just happens.

Around two-thirds of the way through, it shifts from the previously described to being about demons, immortals, deities, the protagonist being a chosen one, and similar . I wasn't pleased by the shift and I was even less pleased by how quickly, easily, and simply everything from that shift was resolved. The overall setting didn't really work for me, it didn't really seem to come together, but that may be a preference for more worldbuilding than there was.

By the end, I thought I wasn't going to read any of the sequels, but after I finished reading the included excerpt for the second book at the end, I changed my mind and I'll consider it. Not anytime soon, but just maybe sometime eventually.

Conclusion: By the standards of self-publishing this is a good book. By my usual standard, it's ok. The reviewers from the SPFBO and others seemed to have liked it a lot more than I did.

>>13981906
Don’t know I’d already dropped it after they started singing as a form of protest

'Precious Artifact was a fun PKd short story I read last night.

>>13983019
I don't remember anything about that one, but I have it marked as that I didn't really like it.

>>13983030
MC was a reconstruct engineer making areas of Mars inhabitable to solve the overpopulation issue on Terra, while there was a human/Proxman war going on. Proxmen won the war but pretended to be humans when talking to MC and had shown him fake ruins, also presented him with a sentimental object in the form of a surviving animal, a cat, which turned out to be artificial unbeknownst to MC.

>>13981585
I am legitimately curious about the book. You're comment makes it seem as though it can only be mentioned every several months or else you're I am trolling. I just want a nice self contained story and this one seems highly reviewed but many of the remarks are about feminist shit that I don't care about.

Is it a good story and is the feminist crap overblown?

>>13980963
Cringe bro. Would you like some help coping with the fact that you read Harry Potter fanfiction? You won't find it here

>>13983218
Seems like you have too many doubts and should forgot about it.

>>13973939
I'm trying the Forever War, slow going I suppose. Short book and supposedly a Vietnam vibe, just not feeling it though.

/sffg/, how do I make my characters quirky and interesting without being too cartoony

>>13983218
I legitimately skipped this book based on the summary alone. The majority of authors are just really shit these days and I'd rather wait for an actually good author like Susanna Clarke to produce something or get some threadslave to test the book before I try it.

>>13976382
I didn't like the 2nd book. The entire world also seems about 2 inches deep.

>>13976938
Lets discuss Gene Wolfe's BotNS and the Black Company only from now one. On an unrelated note I love being a virgin and hate women.

>>13980963
El cringerino. Would you like some help coping with the fact that you read Harry Potter fanfiction?

>>13982446
>>13982751
Coldfire is both Based and Redpilled

Hey I'm trying to find some self-published scifi series somebody on here recommended a while back, I vaguely recall the plot being about a human space ship going on a mission to rescue earth or wherever after the rest of the space military is defeated or drawn away or whatever, and the main characters were a nobleman and a younger female character who got strogged up into a super soldier with nanites. It wasn't romance and I remember the recommender saying that the super soldier starts off being annoying but has character development.

>tfw reading my writing I can't possibly imagine being published, let alone remembered
>it's all trash

what am I wasting my life on /sffg/?

>>13980527
basically litrpg is any story with RPG mechanics baked into the setting

>>13982469
>Gay undertones
If you're getting gay vibes it's probably because you're gay. It's a story about two dudes becoming friends and saving humanity

>>13976938
>metaposting

Ew, if you have a new book to discuss you should bring it up and discuss it.

>>13977919
A good sign of progress is realizing how terrible your product is anon.

>>13982300
I haven't found a single "fun" xanxia or wuxia but some of the asian humor revolving around response calls in spirit vessel made me laugh out loud in real life.

What I Just Looked At A Little Bit
Anything not mentioned means I've already looked at it or that I refuse to.

>>13963707 The Wandering Earth
It's short so I'll read it after I wake up. The movie was enjoyable enough to read what it's based on. I haven't read The Three-Body Problem, but I've looked at it.

>>13964680 The Outside
Not quite what I want to read. I read a short story by her in the anthology, This Is How You Die, but I don't remember anything about it. I disagree with >>13965178 that based on what I saw and skimmed through the character does seem autistic. In the About The Author she claims to be autistic and has written a book specifically about autism.
>This did not need a sequel.
There isn't one, but an interview with her says that she'd like there to be one. It only came out a few months ago as well.

>>13971036 Doorways In The Sand
I've looked at a lot of Zelazny over the years. I haven't liked any of it. The only one I've finished is Nine Princes in Amber a long time ago and my reaction when I finished it was, "Yeah, ok, I don't want to read any more".

>>13971372 Black Leopard Red Wolf
I didn't like the writing style. I assume the violence and explicit content is why you wouldn't be able to read it before sleeping.

>>13973016 Annihilation
I didn't watch the movie based on what I saw in the trailer, but since it's been mentioned why not look at it. Like the other works of his I've looked at, I won't be reading this. I think the only work that he's been involved with that I found interesting was his anthology The New Weird.

>>13973999 Acacia: The War with the Mein
This seems like something I could possibly enjoy. Too long to read for now, so it goes into the "I'll read someday".

>>13975762 Long Earth
The concepts of parallel Earths is something I've liked, reference >>13955033, but I don't like this. Pratchett is one of various beloved authors where after I read a book of theirs, in this case The Colour of Magic I thought it was fine, but I didn't want to read any more. I haven't liked what I've seen from Baxter except his short story, The Unblinking Eye.

>>13981064 The Priory of the Orange Tree
Not something I want to read. No particular reason.

>>13982028 Shard of Honor
Vorkosigan really seems more like something for series about vikings to me rather than a space opera. Bujold has won many Fantasy awards, but I haven't wanted to read anything I've read from her. I can't quite remember if I've ever looked at anything from Vorkosigan before.

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>>13976822
>Wayfarers by Becky Chambers
It seems to have been well-recieved but when I brielfy looked at The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet I wasn't interested. It was self-published through Kickstarter.

>Machineries of Empire by Yoon Ha Lee
I've brielfy looked at Ninefox Gambit and am considering reading it in the future. I liked his novelette Counting the Shapes.

>>13982380 Black Sun Rising
Based on what little I looked at in the past, I don't think so.

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Time to sleep.

>>13981290
I never insulted you once you pathetic asshole. You've been bothering me for this long over an insult that I never fucking wrote. You imagined it. You should know how to read English before you post on a fucking literature board. Please never reply to me again.

>>13971372
Yes. It started out very strong imo but the second half of the book sort of fell apart. With a lot of these kinds of books I feel like the authour has a clear vision of a couple episodes and ties the characters and plot together around these, instead of the organic method of creating characters who happen to find themselves in these situations. It's the same in The Vorrh, which was really bad.

>>13983952
You're a level 1 Writer with zero experience points. Of course you're bad. The only way to improve is to keep writing. Reading or listening to books/podcasts on writing will speed up xp gain.

>>13980963
As I have said before, based. One of a few people on this general that actually provide strong arguments to support their opinion, made even more evident by the fact that everyone who responds to you is unable to write posts longer than 1 sentence.
>>13981395
>>13982857
You also post quality content, thank you for your hard work.
On a related note, I am yet to find a good book that is primarily LitRPG. I really want to enjoy some of them, and many even have intriguing descriptions, but they all turn out to be shit.

So i'm writing a post-apocalyptic story but I recently saw a creepy pasta and it's got the same ideas in it, i.e. aliens that torture people and if they kill themselves the aliens reanimate them and keep torturing

what do?

>>13984286
Write yours better than theirs

>>13984286
congrats on both writing I have no mouth and I must scream but with aliens

>>13983011
Aren't you thinking of red rising?

>>13983722
>>13983233
You're the same fag.

>>13984179
Litrpg works well as an audio experience to me. Reading about it in text with spreadsheets is annoying.
I think it also helps if you read many shit books, and find a cool bottle of water, somehow shaded, in the desert while thirsty.
If you ransacked the self published chart and got not, then I can't help you. Those are the best of the trash I read.... Unless you would actually enjoy the trash I couldn't salvage.

>read fantasy book
>protagonists mother dies

>>13984179
>I am yet to find a good book that is primarily LitRPG. I really want to enjoy some of them

RPG Light Novels
Disclaimer: I wouldn't claim any of these are particularly good, but I've found some of them to be at least marginally enjoyable.
As mentioned in >>13969815 I find DanMachi/ Is it okay to pick up girls in a dungeon? to be somewhat fun.
All of these involve games in some way and/or present RPG mechanics.
There are many others not mentioned, mostly because I don't remember anything at all them even when looking over a list of what I've looked at.

What I've Read:
.hack: Despite being a game, doesn't really lean into it. Not recommended. Some are better than others.
Campfire Cooking in Another World With My Absurd Skill: Moderately amusing, but I don't know if I'd read more. A lot of stats. Not to be taken seriously at all. Protagonist's absurd skill is that he can order from Amazon with instant delivery. Literally everything he orders appears in a cardboard box in front of him.
DanMachi: Has stat blocks now and again, but they aren't really a focus. Sword Art Online: Doesn't actually really lean that much into the RPG aspect.
Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody: I read the first volume of this, but I didn't really enjoy it. Starts out with leveling an absurd level immediately.
Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash: I haven't read the any of it yet, but I watched the anime, which was alright.
JK Haru is a Sex Worker in Another World: JK means high school girl. Rather strange. In the end, which I didn't like, but not because of the spoiler, it's revealed that she's become entirely overpowered because she gains the total experience and skills of everyone she has sex with. . Mostly for the "What am I reading?" aspect.
Log Horizon: I don't remember how much this has of it. I read the first volume and didn't want to read any more.
The Rising of the Shield Hero: I read a few volumes of this before I realized that it wasn't worth reading.

Others That I've Looked At:
Accel World
Arifureta
Do You Love Your Mom and Her Two-Hit Multi-Target Attacks?
I Shall Survive Using Potions!
I've Been Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Maxed Out My Level
Konosuba
Paying to Win in a VRMMO
Reborn as a Vending Machine, I Now Wander the Dungeon
Redefining the META at VRMMO Academy
The Hero is Overpowered But Overly Cautious
Saving 80,000 Gold in an Another World for Retirement
Strongest Gamer

>>13985217
It's rare enough that parents are even mentioned at all. They just get in the way.

>>13985251
isekai and anime =/= LitRPG

There isn't a single litrpg book in that list.

>>13981064
I picked it up months ago and I still haven't finished it cause it's not exactly thrilling or compelling. It's not bad, per se, I've read far worse books, and I do plan on finishing it. I'm just not really in any hurry to do so.

>>13982347
You can get banned on /a/ for talking abotu Chinese and Korean stuff.

>>13976382
>So it's already better than The First Law.
That's a very low bar to get over, and I think you'll find once you've read more fantasy this won't measure up to most of it.

>>13985269
Sure if you define "LitRPG" as "Western Only" there isn't.

>>13985269
>it's not LitRPG if it's from Japan even though Japan is the single biggest producer of LitRPG in the world right now

>>13985269
Some examples. Not sure what else you'd call a lot of this happening along with RPG mechanics.
The third example is an author who clearly became overexcited.

【Name】 Mukohda (Tsuyoshi Mukouda)
【Age】 27
【Job】 Victim from Another World
【Level】 1
【HP】 100
【MP】 100
【Attack】 78
【Defense】 80
【Agility】 75
【Skills】 Appraisal, Item Box, Familiars (Contracted Magic Beasts): Fenrir
【Unique Skill】 Online Supermarket


Race: human
Age: fifteen
Level: 1
Affiliation: none
Job: none
Class: commoner
Title: none
Skills: none
Bounty: none

Class: Symbologist
Level: 4
HP: 103/103
MP: 41/41
AP: 0/300
STR: 9
VIT: 10
DEX: 11
AGI: 11
INT: 20
MND: 15
CHR: 13
Talent 1: Knifer
<Effect> User can equip hidden weapons.
Talent 2: Skill Chain
<Effect> User can combine up to three skills/arts to unleash ultimate abilities.
Talent 3: Final Strike
<Effect> User has learned Final Strike.
Talent 4: Efficiency
<Effect> User skips the crafting animation, but is unable to craft flawless items.
Talent 5: Empty
LUB: 12
MEP: 141
Money: 54,338 Mira
[Equipment]
Main Weapon: Canesword (OEX)
Subweapon: Empty
Head: Empty
Body: Shaman’s Robe
Arm: Empty
Legs: Shaman’s Slops
Feet: Novice’s Shoes
Acc 1: Empty
Acc 2: Empty

[Magic]
Devitalizing Circle (MP: 5~∞)
Cooldown: 0/10 seconds
<Effect> Places a magic circle that decreases VIT by 25% for all enemies inside.
Symbologist only
Enervating Circle (MP: 5~∞)
Cooldown: 0/10 seconds
<Effect> Places a magic circle that decreases AGI by 25% for all enemies inside.
Symbologist only
[Skills]
Turnover
Cooldown: 0/300 seconds
<Effect> Swaps current HP and MP.
Symbologist only
Final Strike Lv1
Cooldown: 0/300 seconds
<Effect> Greatly increases damage of next attack, but breaks weapon afterward.
[Arts]
Charge Spells (AP: 100)
Staff Art
<Effect> Recovers 20% of max MP.
Quickdraw (AP: 0)
Hidden Weapon Art
<Effect> Lightning-fast single hit strike that takes the opponent by surprise. Only usable once per battle. Grows stronger as HP decreases. Ignores defense. Cannot be evaded.

[Ultimates]
Dead End (Usable after a sequence of Turnover -> Final Strike -> Quickdraw

>>13985315
Which is exactly what it is. It's the western version of the isekai genre and has it's own unique style and tropes.

>>13985397
It clearly isn't "Isekai", not the least of which is the absence of going to another world in a lot of them.

>own unique style and tropes.
I don't disagree, but that's like saying fantasy or science fiction written in other countries has to use the term of its country rather than the English term. Not only that, but if they aren't using D&D entirely as a base, it's likely that JRPGs are somewhat used as a base, if not more than that.

>>13985423
The majority of litrpg's do involve going to another world.

>>13985434
I'm not going to argue your personal feelings about semantics versus an objective definition, so I'm not going to post any more about it.

If Lindon doesn't fuck this space angel at some point I'm going to kick the fuck out of the anon that recommended this shit

>>13985464
Which anon in particular? There have been several.

>>13985506
You, bitch.

>>13984667
No we're not

>>13970798
Who is the retard that in the beginner friendly chart has put Name of the Wind in Multivolumes: God-tier???

>>13974060
Fuck that hardcover version, if they actually made it full leatherbound instead of puts a piece of paper on it, I'd buy it.

>>13985699
You care too much about its exterior aesthetic.

>>13985726
I agree about the aesthetic thing, the pictures inside are pretty neat, but still, wish they could make it like Barnes&Noble's hardback one.

>>13970919
Found a line of sci-fi books called laser books through certain means. This title made me feel sad and solemn.

The passengers aren't rescued at the end, but some of the people there get metal tubes as sci-fi wheelchairs since some of them couldn't get their arms or legs regenerated.

>>13985699
https://www.foliosociety.com/usa/dune.html

>>13973392
>House of the Suns
>1,000 years of flying here to talk to NPC
>400 years of flying there to talk to NPC
>10,000 years in real time waiting for the book to end
Surprise, it was The Machine God! Every single Reynolds book ends this way.

>>13985797
>https://www.foliosociety.com/usa/dune.html
>Folio society
Damn I like their Hardcover, thanks for the link anon.

>>13985741
Books are just information. Why do you need tree paste to read in 2019?

>>13985958
Everything is just information.

>>13980885
That's not YA, that's a children's series

Recommendation on recent (or old for that matter) cyberpunk scifi

>>13983330
you go make a writing thread instead of polluting this one

Anyone have a good collection torrent somewhere? I just need to fill up my Kindle.

>>13986543
>>>/t/805598
You can use the torrents or the mega. It's ~560GB in total or so, I don't remember now.
There are of course various other much smaller torrents elsewhere, but the ones I had downloaded years ago probably aren't available any longer and I haven't bothered to look for more.

>>13986629
Is that just a massive dump or is it actually somewhat curated? I saw it earlier but the sheer size kinda threw me off.

>>13986649
It's meant to be all SFF and similar. It has full metadata for calibre. The size is because it has the same files in several formats and the magazine scans take up the majority of the size. They really should have been their own thing. I downloaded it some time ago.

>>13986662
>>13986649
In other words, no it's not curated. I thought about doing some sort of curation with the mega in the OP, but then I realized it probably wouldn't really matter and so I didn't care enough to do it.

>>13986662
>>13986678
Hm, I think I'll take a look around before I down that massive thing. I just want to read some good scifi and fantasy without having to research between every single book.

>>13986725
It's all separated by decades and are standalone. If you just want the 2000s novels, you can download only that. Or only 90s or 80s, or whatnot. But yeah, probably will want to look for something smaller.

>>13986749
Yeah I know, but even sorting through something like the 2000s would be a pretty big undertaking.

>>13986756
I don't think it'll be possible to find any collection with stuff you'll mostly enjoy reading, but one can hope.

>>13984178
i have a hard time believing im still level 1 after writing an entire novel.

Im starting to think I either fucked up on my EV training or just have shit IVs

So does Lindon fuck space angel or no?
Not sure whether to get next book or not.

>>13987005
You shouldn't regardless.

>>13973939
None of these are must reads except arguably one.

>>13987096
You only wrote this to try to get someone to reply “which one?” but I refuse.

What's a good action heavy fantasy book?

>>13970798
is dune good?

>>13987208
Legend or anything else by David Gemmell.

How can I find out if my idea for a story is original?

>>13987348
By posting it here or somewhere similar where people who read a lot can tell you if they’ve read something like that before.

>>13979389
Absolutely, and the newer books are just as good as the original trilogy.

>>13987005
No he’s for his autistic sword waifu only. Haremfags get ye gone.

>>13987433
Oh, ok. I guess I'll have to try my luck and hope there isn't anything similar out there.

>>13987517
She doesn't even have green hair the bitch

>>13985746
Cool, thx anon

>>13985464
>Lindon
>Fucking anyone
He's gayer than a pride parade

>>13987973
>she was beautiful
bruh

>>13987973
Nah he got full erect when he saw them tiddies.

>>13985464
I NEED Lindon to marry Yerin, fuck the angel, and kill the dragons

The journey of a thousand li begins with a flying sword

>>13988202
Who the fuck is Erin. Space angel is best girl and one of you fuckers better tell me if she shows up again in the best books or I'm not reading anymore.

>>13987476
Are you a pink haired land whale? That’s the only type who like his dark materials

>>13984610
Oh yeah I was

>>13988335
the space faggots are the worst part of a mediocre series

>>13988376
Probably but one of them made me hard

Anything more like powder mage? Read the two released ones of new trilogy as well and i need something to distract me from life and suffering

>>13988467
No gayboy

>>13980613
Haven't read Red Mars but I really enjoyed The Shaman by KSR

>>13976382
I liked the first book, second book was trash.

>>13988488
Thank you for your input.

>>13988467
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/45851.gunpowder_fantasy

>>13988614
No problem gayboy

Second apocalypse is decent why is it never discussed here?

What I Read Today

The Wandering Earth - Cixin Liu
The movie apparently only had the slightest resemblance to the novella. It was passable. I wouldn't recommended it to others though.

All Systems Red - Martha Wells
Even though this is on the self-published chart, it was never self-published. It was published by tor.com, which publishes Tor's shorter than novel length fiction and has done so for a decade or more. I enjoyed it and I'll eventually read the rest of them.

Seems that I didn't want to type much today.

>>13988467
what's good about powder mage?

>>13988651
Because all the bakkerfags hated it after the last book.

>>13988803
Na I still liked it. Unholy Consult was rushed, sure, but Bakker will always be based in my eyes. I'm sad he hasn't updated his blog.

The Judging Eye sucked, though.

>>13988743
Magic stuff was okay. Diverse characters in a decent way. Decent mix of political, war and fantasy world building. Cute waifu. I just found it okay to read, well enough written, pretty consistent and the world seemed good to me. I also like black company, so feel free to disregard everything I say.

>>13988651
Because he lost his publisher and sffg spergs over unfinishable series

>>13988873
>cucked by the publishers
Oh the irony..

>>13973178
Also interested. I’m surprised there’s not more mindfucky stuff like this out there - Uchikoshi’s mastered that, and no one really seems to be able to get close to him in that regard. Play his other games if you haven’t - he just released a new one a few weeks ago.

>>13989125
He's mastered recreations of the same few twists, and a recurring trend of pure betrayal.

>>13988743
Nothing about it is outstanding but it's fun, has a magic system that isn't complete nonsense but neither is it an autistic sanderson one. Has distinctive characters doing different things, fairly niche setting as well. Decently written, dialogue is pretty fluid. I read them all at the start of last year, the final book set in the universe is so supposed to come out in December I think so i'll probably get that too.

>>13988952
It’s really meta, when you think about it.

>>13988826
> I'm sad he hasn't updated his blog.
That’s because he took a sabbatical and is larping as a carpenter after Overlook ended his contract. He also turned his nose up at self publishing, so double fucked.

>>13988833
No, you're right.

>>13989165
ZTD doesn’t count

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