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I read a lot, but I'm clueless about how to start writing. I assume that I should make an outline of where I intend the story/poem/whatever to go, but is there a proper format that this outline should take on? Is there an accepted structure to follow like how I was taught to write an essay in school? Any advise or comments on the process of writing would be appreciated.

>> No.13965987

literally just start writing lmao

>> No.13965992

>>13965960
first tip: it's 'advice' not 'advise'

>> No.13965994
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>>13965960
Dont take advice from anyone here..including me.
Best bet is reading alot though like forced daily. What Ray Bradbury did..
Also i was thinking about following this infographic for myself..

>> No.13966026

>>13965987
Not a bad idea, thanks.
>>13965992
Good advise!
>>13965994
This is a lot of heavy reading, and I've never read for self-improvement, but this seems like a great place to start.

>> No.13966246

It's weirdly not discussed a lot, but for me, I start by figuring out what I want to say. Not just "what's the theme," because that usually leaves one thinking, "okay, my theme is love, now what?" because what you really need is something to say about love. Then devise plot and characters in service of what you want to say, and flesh it out from there.

>> No.13966268

>>13966246
The Social Animal followed this process as well as Sophie's World. SA explained society through the life cycle of a girl and boy into adulthood. Sophies World related philosophy to a little girl learning philisophy for the 1st time. Ex. Upon her reading Socrates she began talking back to her mother to protect her philosophical virtues..
Stuff like that is always good...

>> No.13966283

>>13966026
I would write while reading the Trivium bc that shit is way too pedantic and a source for procrastination..
Perfectionism is procrastination.

>> No.13966297

>>13966268
My first idea on what to write was a poem or short story where Satan guides the protagonist through a few surreal scenes in order to express fatalistic and nihilistic viewpoints. Probably too ambitious of a project to start with, and might just end up becoming cannon fodder for creative writing practice.

>> No.13966425

>>13966297
Good. Get to writing. My issue is dropping ideas in an instant..never holding long enough to write a book or anything of significance. I think ill just sit down and write on immortality and relate it to a dog or something..

>> No.13966581

>>13966297
But what do you have to say about fatalism or nihilism?

>>13966425
And what do you have to say about immortality?

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>>13966581
>And what do you have to say about immortality?
Im not settled on 1 thing yet. I have many things to say both positive and negative.
I believe it can lead to eternal scientific progression depending on our use of genetic engineering and various versions of machine learning or it can more likely lead to an eternal state of decadence.. A spiritual decay and dissatisfaction with life bc wo death what is life?..

>> No.13966701

To us life is valuable bc we've lived w the fear of death..but imagine growing up where no such thing exists or maybe even heard of. What would that be like?

>> No.13966854

I can tell you right off the bat that eternal life would lead to scientific stagnation, but to learn why you'll have to read The Structure of Scientific Revolutions. (You'll have to read Kuhn because nothing I can type in this text box will convince you.) I can also tell you that machine learning is a gigantic farce, but unfortunately I can't give you a reference, so you'll have to ignore me on that one.
I don't think life has to end to be able to make sense of it; we can deal with things that are ongoing, and that don't necessarily have an end--like history, or for that matter, time itself. History isn't meaningful because of some imagined or even speculated end, it's meaningful because it's the ongoing story of us. Likewise, I don't imagine you center your conception of yourself around your death, or anything like that. In fact, I imagine that your death is something that you generally avoid thinking about, and avoid bringing into your considerations of yourself.
But most importantly, I don't see this as being nearly specific enough to write a story about.

>> No.13967951

>>13965987

Unironically this. Generally writers either plot or just start writing. In rare cases some do both. Generally you should try to set yourself an easily achievable word count at first, even something as small as 500. Write out the 500 words, realise they are shit, then make them better. Refine until you have a diamond, repeat the next day. Within a month or two you'll have a novel or at least an idea of how to write one.

Read every single day.

If you ever doubt your ability, go to a bookshop and pick up a random novel. Read a few lines in the middle and see what is getting sold these days.

>> No.13969085

I have a notebook on my bedside table and as I wake up, before I do anything, I write for half an hour.

>> No.13969088

>>13966698
cope

>> No.13970040

>>13967951
I agree with everything but the see what's being sold these days part. An author shouldn't strive to make money, and if he does he's a fraud.