/lit/ - Literature

>>13956626
>Proteshits literally took books out of their bible and then have the audacity to claim Catholics are lost.

All bibles not in Ancient Koine are blasphemy

>>13956626
The Bible is for soiboys

>>13956636
They compiled the canon dumbass. It’s like saying catholics “took out” the gospel of Thomas. No, they just didn’t include it in their canon.

>>13956626
>The Pope won't let our king serial divorced? FUCK THE CHURCH!
>WE HALL MAKE OUR OWN BIBLES! WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS! AND SINCE WE'RE REEEEEALY FAITHFUL NOT LIKE THE CATHOLIC THE HOLY GHOST SHALL PRESERVE US FROM ERROR! ITS FOOLPROOF!
>They write their bibles
>first edition, first copies sent
>"thou shalt commit adultery"
btfo'd so fucking hard.
I think they had to sit down.

>>13956665
And by which authority they took those book out of the canon?
Oh, right, Luther litteraly ASKED THE JEWS WHICH BOOK SHOULD BE IN THE BIBLE!
AND LISTENED TO THEM!
Absolutely KEKED to hell and back.

>>13956676
>Luther litteraly ASKED THE JEWS WHICH BOOK SHOULD BE IN THE BIBLE!
[x] Doubt

>>13956668
The KJV is a good translation you weird cunt. With the material they had they did a faithful job, still the most beautifully worded English translation to date.

>>13956676
He asked scholars of Judaism about the Old Testament. Nothing wrong with that. And on what authority did the Church compile its own canon? “We’re infallible lol”.

>>13956681
Doubt as much as you like It's still the truth!
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/was-luther-right/
>inductivo study of jewish texts
BUT GUESS WHAT? Even If his metodology was correct (it wasn't) he would have been wrong anyway because in the first century aD the jews didn't have a close Canon of Scripture anyway!

>>13956688
They litteraly and honestly said that since they were right and the Catholics were wrong the Spirit would have preserved them from translation and typocraphic errors. then went and immediately did translation and typographic errors.
They Also litteraly and honestly said that since the previous statement was true, that Bible would be their Sole Arbiter, more faithful to the original content than the greek and aramaic version. Evangélics still hold this.
Obviously It's still a good translation with great literary merita but It's not what we're talking about here, we're talking about You SEEEETHING.

>>13956707
Apostólic succession, lol. It's the Great point of contention. The Catholics hold that they're right because their ancestors were those that WERE THERE.
That's the whole point.
Also
>Nothing bad with asking people that histórically super baby hate you and your messiah what books you should consider Holy!
Are you even trying lol

>>13956757
wow based

Prots destroyed for all eternity
Close thread
Protestantism is cancelled

>>13956920
lmao byeeeee hunny
oh whats that? little virgin mad?
cry about it

>>13956676
>And by which authority they took those book out of the canon?
They didn't. The Catholic canon wasn't established until the council of Trent.

Now you guys know how Jews feeling about Christians mutilating and building on top of the OT.

>>13956626
>>13956636
>>13956668
>>13956676
>>13956757
kek. this thread is gold.

>>13956626
Based.

Who here /douay-rheims/ and /vulgate/

>>13956626
based and Pius V pilled

>>13956688
lol, no. douay-rheims is better and it came out first.

>>13956626
Reminder to Catholics and others that salvation has always been freely given to anyone willing by the grace of God through faith alone; if you're trusting your own works to be saved, then you're not placing all of your faith in Jesus Christ.

Romans 11:6 KJV
> And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Romans 4:5 KJV
>But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith counted for righteousness.

Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
>8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
>9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Galatians 2:16 KJV
> Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

If works were required for salvation, then all the "believe and be saved" verses from the gospels and the NT would say "believe and work to be saved" including

John 3:16 KJV
> For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

True salvation is simple. All the hard work has already been done by Christ. All you need to do is lay aside your own pride and accept the "free" gift of God by believing Jesus Christ did it all for you. Don't reject the gift by trying to pay for it, you can't.

>>13956626
Christians of /lit/ have you read your bible today? Also, if you are not sure if you are saved or not, get saved and read the word of God!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEBz25lGdY&t=3s

>>13959320
Matthew 25:31–46
>And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty.
>And all nations shall be gathered together before him: and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats:
>And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.

>Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
>For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink: I was a stranger, and you took me in:
>Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me.
>Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry and fed thee: thirsty and gave thee drink?
>Or when did we see thee a stranger and took thee in? Or naked and covered thee?
>Or when did we see thee sick or in prison and came to thee?
>And the king answering shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

>Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, which was prepared for the devil and his angels.
>For I was hungry and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty and you gave me not to drink.
>I was a stranger and you took me not in: naked and you covered me not: sick and in prison and you did not visit me.
>Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to thee?
>Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen: I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.
>And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.

Good works are necessary for salvation.

>>13959325
>get thee behind me satan
Omae wa mou, shindeiru

>>13956626
Why would you buy a book just so you can burn it? You give your money away to capitalists all so you can destroy their product? Destroy it without paying, anon! What are you doing?

>>13959342
Ephesians 2:8-9 you absolute smoothbrain.

>>13958336
I doubt he said that
Also surely you mean Pius X

>>13956636
>Implying Baptists didn't have the right of it before the council of Nicea

>prots believe books are holy authority, not God
>papists believe old men are holy authority, not God
I guess I'm the only one with a big enough brain to believe that God is the highest authority, feels lonely

>I'll take one Orthodox Study Bible, and make it the Ancient Faith Leathersoft edition, please

>>13959320
Read James.

>>13960774
>picking a bible that isn't even approved by your denomination
lmao

>>13956626
Why is there even a bible thread I mean you guys are basically dead at this point

>>13960778
Read Kant, good works will come from good principles based in good faith
Conformity to the moral law =/= acting out of a sense of moral duty

>>13960786
>you guys are basically dead
Lol, dream on fedora bro
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/05/13/nones-americans-christians-evangelicals-column/27198423/

>>13960796
what the fuck LMAO you're linking me an OPINION piece from 2015?
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

>>13960805
https://www.sociologicalscience.com/download/vol-4/november/SocSci_v4_686to700.pdf

Shhhh its ok you can hug your fedora if you want

>>13956668
kek

>>13960786
what did the redditor mean by this

>>13960822

>sociology
>a legit science

Now this is grasping for straws

>>13960822
Yea but who REALLY gives a fuck about christianity at this point?
I banged a church girl 3 months ago and i'll be honest if she didn't go to church it wouldn't have turned me on as much.

>>13960786
oh no no no

>>13960834
>it’s not science when I don’t like it!
>but it’s real science when I do!

>>13960843
Cool story incel

>>13960833
>>13960844
Are you guys actually CHRISTIAN?

>>13958336
His nose is sus

>>13960858
The only one who knows is God, for it is he that extends grace to the hearts of men by which men may resist sin and become true followers of the Lord

>>13957108
>I DONT KNOW HOW THE CHURCH WORKS!
Were there many versions of the Bible with the Gospels of Thomas before the 1600s?
It was decided at Nicaea and, as usual, formalized into cathechism when heretics came and said the opposite.
>>13959320
Except Luther was an autist and misunderstood the whole problem because he thought that paying money instead of accepting a temporal punishment for a sin meant people didn't have to actually repent; which Obviously was wrong and had been wrong since a thousands years earlier.
Furthermore, the actual Catholic position on Faith and works:
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Canons_and_Decrees_of_the_Council_of_Trent/Session_VI/Justification
Again, We only have a Ecumenic Council on something when someone presents doubts about something. >>13959342
>>13960786
In the world, We're billions, You are hundred of thousands. Case closed.
>>13960858
>>13960843
>>13960805
Shouldn't You be doing your homework?
>>13960774
The orthodox study Bible is indeed based.
>>13957235
>BAAAAAAW HOW DAREYOU DEVELOP YOUR THEOOOOOLOGYYYY

>>13960721
There We're no Baptists before the Council of Nicaea you goof

>>13960999
*were, fucking phone.
Preserved the post Because of the trips tho.

>>13960999
Who was John the Baptist then? Checkmate

>>13961067
ITS JOHN THE BAPTIST NOT JOHN THE CATHOLIC

>>13960844
>Pee-ew research

>>13961069
More like Yohanan the Immerser not Yohanan the Goy.

>>13960988
Imagine being this completely arrogant and retarded, at the same time. It genuinely boggles the mind. Why internet Tradolics so autistic? Fucking hell.

>>13960988
>the canon was decided at nicaea
No it wasn't. Don't get your theology from the Da Vinci Code, folks.

>>13960999
Unless you, y'know, don't reject Baptist theology a priori, in which case they lived in the first and second centuries :)

>>13961067
>>13961069
john the baptist was an old covenant prophet. he wasn't even a christian.