/lit/ - Literature

>>13922594
After Hitler (PBUH) declared Japs to be honorary whites God granted them souls wich allowed them to develop the necessary thoughts and feelings, things like the introspection and empathy, to create, understand and appreciate great works of literature. Koreans lack this trait.

>>13922626
God is Jewish though, he wouldn't listen to Hitler

>>13922633
If God is Jewish then explain the Holocaust.

>>13922637
The book of Job explains it perfectly

>>13922594
Because Korea has always been China's or Japan's bitch and is now America's bitch too.

Because the korean language is still in its infancy

>>13922752
Jews dislike Job from what I know.

>>13922771
not exact. theyre owned by the jewish branch of america

>>13922786
>>13922626
OK but why are you outside of your containment board

>>13922594
because it hardly has any literature of its own
for most of its history, korean literature was chinese literature
when the japs took over, korean writers were censored
after ww2 korea was split in two. no time for reading
then there was a dictatorship. etc etc
now there are korean writers but most are not translated into english

The only one I can think of is The Vegetarian by Han Kang, great book

>>13922594
constantly burned down by japan

Yi Beomseon's "Stray Bullet" or "Obaltan".
"A Little Ball that a dwarf launches" by Cho Se-hui.
I gave you some books, now gimme the sauce on that semen demon

>>13922594
I thought The Vegetarian was pretty good

>>13922791
You have to go back.

>>13922594
They did. Then they got enslaved and holodomor'd by the japs, partitioned by the Capi and Commie empires and turned into a sweatshop
Their main exports used to be hair for wigs before they set up electronic sweatshop concessions for the Capis a couple of decades before China

>>13922637
>God subjects the Jews to an extremely harsh trial
>it allows them to gain global control and control of their promised land
Based Jews being the actual chosen people

Hold up OP. I got something that gave me weird complicated feelings about loneliness. Is that one part of what /lit/ generally wants? Insight?

>>13922594
who is this

They make movies instead.

>>13922637
God is a dickhead and enjoys torturing people. That is the lesson of Job

>>13922626
Snapped.

>>13925478
hot take, brainlet

>>13925536
We’re talking about Yhwh, dink. This is the way the Jews see their god. He’s a wrathful, jealous and nasty beast. It’s only since that whole Jesus period that they felt they had to revamp it all, splitting with the “Christians” along the way. Your worship of a loving god makes no sense for... “gnostic” reasons, but you think that’s just heresy
Or do I assume too much about you? Sorry if that’s the case

>>13925599
Cringe. Read some commentary before commenting on a religion , tranny

Why is everyone seething about Japan in this thread, Japan only invaded like 200 years ago, they had a lot of independent times to be culturally relevant before since and produce some works.
>>13922594
I think that much like a lot of sub-saharan African nations, literature probably wasn't the chosen medium of story telling, perhaps they had a stronger oral tradition

>>13925478
>>13925599

>>13922791
/leftypol/ was created on another website and never added here for a reason, go to your containment board faggot

>>13925767
>no arguments
>ban evader

>>13925810
Aren't you in your 40's?

>>13923237
This is her worst book and the translation is really bad. Human Acts is far better.

Korean cinema is fabulous.

>>13922626
this, but unironically.

>>13922594
Korea is full of talented writers, like anywhere in the world. There just aren't many translations into English

>>13922594
This is a good question. Korea makes great movies yet Japan aside from some horror, makes poor ones. Japan has long and unbroken literary tradition whereas South Korea came up within the latter 20th century, under US guidance.

It's always interesting to see how emergent technology affects a subject which is itself new, in contrast to established subjects trying to integrate the new technology into more ossified systems.

>>13925896
>inb4 Akira Kurosawa is the same as multiple centuries of still-circulating authorship

>>13922771
korea and japan have both been china's bitch and now america is china's bitch too

HELLO MORONS here have some useful links

you can also try Amazon just search for instance "hwang sokyon" or "ko un"

PS - Japan only received the Chinese writing system through Korea

Korea is the only country to have perfected an alphabet one can learn in under 60 minutes, since the king, King Sejong, wanted to promote mass literacy without the obstacle of the extremely difficult classical chinese writing

I lived in Korea fr 2 years and I guarantee you'll never find people with a deeper understanding of poetry, culture, love and life.

I love my time on /lit/ but you guys fucking disappoint me with your ignorance and bias here

http://anthony.sogang.ac.kr/KoreanPoems.htm

www.hanbooks.com

https://www.dalkeyarchive.com/product-tag/library-of-korean-literature/

>>13925478
>>13922594
god i wish these were me

>>13925971
I can't help but add, this thread really damaged my respect for /lit/. Korea has no culture? Korea has no integrity?

I'm gonna take ALL of your opinions with a big-ass grain of sea salt from now on. I almost feel like I'm surrounded by murderers. This thread is like an intellectual snuff film. Literally the biggest intellectual disgrace I've seen in my 7 years on 4chan.

Truly amazing. Now I know why millions of people can condone genocide and slavery without any pang of conscience. You all just say the people getting killed, enslaved, abused et cetera have nothing of value anyway. So fuck you all and Korea is not just peasants with superstitions and a shamanistic culture. Korea is a fucking CIVILIZATION of its own, thousands of years older than the USA or European nation-states as constituted in the modern age

God now I understand why a gentle, charitable person could call out to Heaven to throw the darkened souls of liars into everlasting conscious to yrment

God help the child who has none of its own. Have a nice night you all.

yi kwangsu - the soil
ko un - 10,000 lives
kim manjung - the nine cloud dream

>>13925971
>>13925990
Absolutely assblasted Kpop fetishist seething about Japanese superiority

>>13925971
Do you have any recommendations on how to learn Korean? What are some easy to read books one could start with?

>>13925778
>Japan only invaded like 200 years ago

>>13922778
Then watch the Coen Brothers' a Serious Man

Just because they don't get English translations doesn't mean they don't have strong literary traditions. Same for India and China.

>>13925971
>>13925990
Cringe and based

I live in Korea. Han Kang is my favorite that I’ve read, I really enjoyed The White Book. Haven’t read the translation and, as another anon said, there aren’t many translations of korean works. The poetry is quite good as well, though difficult to read if you’re learning. It’s disingenuous to say Koreans have no culture, though it is certainly fair to say that they have a serious inferiority complex. That said, Japan raped and tortured their people forever and pretended it didn’t happen, so I sympathize a bit.

>>13926679
The alphabet is extremely easy, and most any book on Amazon will suit your needs. Actually speaking and hearing Korean is hard as fuck, as they have 12,000,000 verb endings with varying degrees of politeness, and seemingly every word has three or four other words that can also be used, based on the audience.

>>13926031
yi kwang-su and ko un were both 20th century (also yi was a collaborator with the japanese)
kim man-jung wrote stories set in china, in chinese

>>13926715
han kang is a modern author

the question was about korean literary tradition
but historically korean literature is chinese

>>13926733
Contemporary authors fit within a literary tradition, as a literary tradition does not end at a point.

>>13924639
A Twitch thot.

>>13922626
>empathy
I live there and I can assure you that there's something intrinsically wrong with them. And no, empathy is beyond their understanding.

>>13925896
>Japan makes poor movies
Listen, I have no fucking idea what you mean by this, but Japan’s filmography puts Korea’s to absolute shame.

>>13923703
this, the only korean book i have read but it was decent

>>13925990
i've never seen someone this offended on lit, absolutely furious.

>>13926810
Are you retarded? Japan makes the worst movies. The only good ones are white and black.

>>13922594
who is this semen Yokai?

>>13924639
Velvet_7

>>13927225
She is a butter face, but she thicc.

>>13922594
are korean tits usually real or fake?

>>13926697
Fuck you, bitch.

>>13922637
>Being this retarded

>>13927254
i hate the overwatch (and twitch in general) community like almost nothing else

>>13922594
why do people pretend japan has good literature?

>>13926035

>>13926679
making korean friends is probably the best way to get started. you can go at your own pace and a friend will be patient if you need time to learn the pronunciation.

i also built a lot of vocabulary just from copying dictionaries. i started with an essential dict of 1,000 words; then went to 5,000; then went to 20,000 which i'm working on at present

i also tried to memorize a little poetry just because it is beautiful and makes me feel like i'm experiencing the culture, not just cramming words in.

i also took some courses at the local school of continuing education. but the teacher was really lazy and just showed us Korean TV-shows all day, then took us out for Korean BBQ

>>13926715
I really liked The White Book as well. I have copies of Human Acts and The Vegetarian but i haven't finished them yet.

I think my overall favorite K-novel so far is Yi Kwangsu's The Soil, which is about an educated young teacher trying to improve the lives of villages in his hometown, while negotiating love and marriage and social development under Japanese occupation.

I also enjoyed Jang Jungil's When Adam Opens His Eyes. Jang is a little similar to Houellebecq in that he mixes observations on society and technology with pornographic humor. It's not exactly fine art but the intellectual and existential portraiture of Korean youth is enjoyable. Jang writes well about sex too; his descriptions are memorable and erotic but ultimately high-minded, beautiful rather than pornographic.

Have you ever read Park Wanseo? (Or Park Wansuh as it's sometimes written). Her memoir Who Ate All the Shinga is a touching depiction of a Korean childhood. And her novella That Girl's House is absolutely exquisite tragedy - it changed the way I think about Korean history.

Shin Kyungsook / Kyungsook Shin is best known for Please Take Care of Mom is also author of great coming of age novel about love and youth, I'll Be Right There. The coverage of life in a certain era, counterpoised to individual aspirations, to me felt redolent of Flaubert's Sentimental Education.

My favorite poets in no particular order are Kim Chunsu; Ko Un; Ku Sang; Seo Cheongju; An Dohyon; and Manhae Han Yongun.

I also like Korean cinema a lot. Both the popular stuff and the art-films have a lot to offer. Favorite of all films are Take Care of My Cat, and Lifting King Kong.

I wish I still lived in Korea. Due to mental health issues I lost my dream job (teaching at an elite, selective high school). I hope to do something for the Koreans nonetheless, in terms of promoting their culture or just participating in cultural life hee that turns people on to a civilization that gives a lot to those who show even a casual interest.

>>13926035
Yeah, I am a K-pop fan. I like Utada Hikaru and Izumi Sakai, but J-pop isn't as dynamic r sophisticated as a lot of current K-pop.

If only you knew how different I am from the stereotypical Koreaboo.

>>13925599
He can indeed be wrathful.

This is the nature of life, do you not live it? How can you possibly be so deluded that you cannot see the need of a righteous rage? :3

>>13929940
My son, this is not designed to teach you fanaticism.
Grow up until you come to know love.
Humanity's final moments,
the day you drink your cup to the dregs,
the day America's oil dries up:
before you reach such distant times, the words
you will register in your heart are words you will learn
from the city's fatigue.
You will learn this firm silence.
You will wonder whether
the peach seed is not made of love!
Sometime the day will come
when peach seed and apricot seed
will leap up, maddened by love!
And that will not be the false meditation
of a mistaken hour like your father's.

- Kim Suyong, "Variations on a Theme of Love"